Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 11:08:55AM -0500, Jason Clinton wrote: > On Monday 26 September 2005 12:15 am, Marc Wilson wrote: > > Gee, what about by just NOT upgrading the box TODAY? Oh, that's right... > > people die or something if they don't update the installed packages every > > twenty-four hours. To be fair it is a problem for me. I have just done an install of Etch, and I can't install the KDE meta-package. I upgrade weekly for features and ASAP for security problems. This is not over done (IMHO) and since I installed Etch last week Monday, I have still not been able to install KDE. I think a full week is beginning to be a bit on the silly side, don't you? -John -- John Oxley Systems Administrator Yo!Africa E-Mail: john at yoafrica.com Tel: +263 4 858404 echo '9k[l:l;sx]s"[1+l>] s>[q]s-[d77/3*2-s;47l"x-P1+d78>`]s`0[d23/.5-3*s:0l`xr10P1+d24>$]ds$x'|dc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I install Opera?
Thanks, it is working now. On 9/27/05, Dennis Stosberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am 27.09.2005 um 13:29 schrieb rosetta: > > > Hi all > > > > I have install the deb package that downloaded from opera.com. > > But when I run opera, there are some errors: > > ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: > > ignored. > > ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: > > ignored. > > /usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: > > libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > You are missing the package "libstdc++6". > > Regards, > Dennis > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
What is the different between kernel-image and linux-image
Hi all I have seen some packages named kernel-image-xxx and linux-image-xxx. And the description of them is similar. what is the different? good luck
Re: Responses to the list
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 22:46:48 -0700 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > If you say so. It works well enough for my limited needs. > > Clients that treat IMAP like a glorified POP should > just remove it and save the compile time. Seriously. When I've examined the ~/.evolution IMAP cache, I see headers, not mail bodies. > >>Harfs on IMAPS > > > For those of use who don't use IMAPS, though... > > Ah, yes, passwords in the clear. Private LAN. > >>All of those are far more serious than no > >> reply-to-list. > > > Any recommendation, besides mutt? > > Sure, Thunderbird. Between lousy IMAP, broken IMAPS, > bad wrapping, the lousy "personalities" model and no > reply-to-list the first 4 are pure frustration while the > last is a minor annoyance. The frustration is trying to > figure out why the firefox gang has let such a trivial > thing last so long while programming in far more complex > features with a far smaller appeal. :( I guess I've just gotten used to Evo. As soon as libsoup2.2 gets fixed, I'm going to install it on my new system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [boot optimization] How to speed up the boot?
belbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > my etch works very well, but the startup process takes too long... I can see > many useless probing scripts working during the startup. > I thought I could remove some autoprobing script from /etc/rc*, but I don't > know > which. Here's the list: [...] > Which scripts can I remove without any damage to the system integrity? > My etch is an old sarge manually configured for my hardware, so I imagine > that I > can remove something with no risk. > > Do you know if there are some other way to speed up the boot process? A quick fix to make the boot scripts run faster is to change your /bin/sh to some other shell that is faster than /bin/bash, such as /bin/dash. This can be done by installing 'dash' and answering the debconf questions, or by later running 'dpkg-reconfigure dash'. Be warned that using dash as /bin/sh is a really good way of finding buggy shell scripts that contain bashisms. -- Captain Logic is not steering this tugboat. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pointer for home networking
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 10:54:58PM +0100, michael wrote: > I've had a look about but can't find a basic guide to setting up a home > network. Jut two days ago Steve Kemp at the debian-administration.org website posted an article called 'An introduction to Debian networking setup': http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/254 Worth a read. -- Maurits van Rees | http://maurits.vanrees.org/ [Dutch/Nederlands] Public GnuPG key: http://maurits.vanrees.org/var/gpgkey.asc "It can seem like you're doing just fine, but the creep's creeping into your mind." - Neal Morse signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On 27/09/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Dick, > > > > I'm actually starting to think about giving each user their own > > partition, since it's so little hassle. > > > Would that be feasable in an enviroment with 40.000 mail users ? ;-) I don't run an environment with 4 users Anyway, do you really want each mail user to have their own home directory?. > I understood that basically Scsi HDD can have 15 partitions max and > IDE/SATA f.e. 64 partitions max. > > Am I mistaken, or do you know more than me ? If you like :) I'm talking about LVM. 64 ide partitions == 64 LVM physical volumes. You build one dirty great volume group out of that, and then create as many logical volumes as you want. A volume group can be made out of physical volumes on multiple disks, so there's no limit to the size of a volume group. (There's probably some internal kernel data structure that is finite, I haven't looked at the code). -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns
RE: Cdrecord and linux 2.6.12
Thanks, that was it! Now, even with 2.6.12 i can burn again. Anyway, this shows that something is definitelly rotten there. K3b thinks that the SUID must not be on for 2.6.12 (I used to think so too). However, without cdrecord.mmap it fails on access denied. So, who is to blame here? Kernel? cdrecord ? K3b ? Communists ? > -Original Message- > From: Tim Ruehsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 6:01 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Cdrecord and linux 2.6.12 > > Am Montag, 26. September 2005 16:48 schrieb Žáček Kryštof: > > Lucky you. I did not even get so far to spoil the CD. K3b > permanently > > fails > to burn any data CD for me with 2.6 kernel. > > It keeps reporting something about failing mkisofs or cdrecord, > > operation > not permitted or so. > > I recently had a similar problem. After starting the k3b > installation assistant, /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap lost it's > set-uid bit. I reinstalled it with chmod u+s > /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap and now, k3b works fine again (do not > start k3b assistant). > > # l /usr/bin/cdrec* > -rwsr-xr-- 1 root cdrom133 Sep 21 03:17 /usr/bin/cdrecord > -rwsr-xr-- 1 root cdrom 323540 Sep 21 03:17 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap > -rwsr-xr-- 1 root cdrom 323540 Sep 21 03:17 /usr/bin/cdrecord.shm > > Tim > >
Re: Mozilla Thunderbird Help
Ms Linuz wrote:
> I don't know if it's just me or else.
> Open up mozilla-thunderbird, click Help --> Thunderbird Help
> Nothing happen.
> Click on Release Notesnothing.
> Click on About Thunderbird...nice animation screen.
>
> The Thunderbird Help context is what I'm very much concern about.
> Since it's the closest way for the users like me to get help asap.
> I will send a bugreport if it's not just me or worse it's just
> like that from up there.
>
> --w.h--
>
>
It does startup Firefox for me (my default x-www-browser) as the menu
entry points to online help. Thunderbird does not contain inbuilt Help
documentation as does Firefox. If Thunderbird does not recognize the
default browser for you, try setting the following preferences in
Thunderbird:
network.protocol-handler.app.http mozilla-firefox
network.protocol-handler.app.https mozilla-firefox
You can add these preferences in your user.js (does not exist by
default) under your Thunderbird profile. E.g. add line
user_pref("network.protocol-handler.app.http", "mozilla-firefox");
in your user.js.
Hope that helps.
/KS
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Re: How can I install Opera?
Am 27.09.2005 um 13:29 schrieb rosetta: > Hi all > > I have install the deb package that downloaded from opera.com. > But when I run opera, there are some errors: > ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. > ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. > /usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: > libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory You are missing the package "libstdc++6". Regards, Dennis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Responses to the list
Ron Johnson wrote: > If you say so. It works well enough for my limited needs. Clients that treat IMAP like a glorified POP should just remove it and save the compile time. Seriously. >>Harfs on IMAPS > For those of use who don't use IMAPS, though... Ah, yes, passwords in the clear. >>All of those are far more serious than no reply-to-list. > Any recommendation, besides mutt? Sure, Thunderbird. Between lousy IMAP, broken IMAPS, bad wrapping, the lousy "personalities" model and no reply-to-list the first 4 are pure frustration while the last is a minor annoyance. The frustration is trying to figure out why the firefox gang has let such a trivial thing last so long while programming in far more complex features with a far smaller appeal. :( -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Mozilla Thunderbird Help
I don't know if it's just me or else. Open up mozilla-thunderbird, click Help --> Thunderbird Help Nothing happen. Click on Release Notesnothing. Click on About Thunderbird...nice animation screen. The Thunderbird Help context is what I'm very much concern about. Since it's the closest way for the users like me to get help asap. I will send a bugreport if it's not just me or worse it's just like that from up there. --w.h-- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can I install Opera?
Hi all I have install the deb package that downloaded from opera.com. But when I run opera, there are some errors: ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. /usr/lib/opera/8.50-20050916.6/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Is there anything I must install for Opera? good luck
Re: Should one CPU(Hyper-Threading) machine install SMP kernel?
Dick Davies wrote: > Yup, use SMP. I get 2 cpus in cpuinfo that way (although top doesn't > see them for some reason). Have you ever run a top that lists individual processors on a 64 processor machine? I have and top is quite useless there with all of the screen being taken up by the cpu listing there is no space left for "top" processes. http://bugs.debian.org/62282 There are actually two versions of top. The code has been forked. Feel free to find and run the "other" one. But no thanks for me. However I will recommend the following two packages. apt-get install htop apt-get install xosview Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: different From: addresses with mutt, etc.
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 11:05:03PM +0100, Peter J Ross wrote: > and in .procmailrc: > > MAILDIR=/home/pjr/Mail > > :0: > * ^List-Id:.*lists\.debian\.org > debian/ Don't need to lock maildir, so :0 * ^List-Id:.*lists\.debian\.org debian/ would do. > (Don't use the trailing "/" if you're using mbox format instead of > maildir. ANd I've left out all the spam filters.) > > If you don't want to learn procmail, you could try one of the > allegedly simpler alternatives that I've not tried yet. -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: question for sources.list
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 12:09:39AM +0200, David Jardine wrote: [..] > I confess my vast ignorance of how all the developers, release > managers, etc do their work on debian, but isn't the whole point of > the operation to provide us, as users, with a system that is as > easy as possible to use (without MS-type dumbing down, of course)? No. Lurk on debian-devel to gain insight. -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Diagnosing system trouble (was Re: missing gnome menu items)
On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 11:48:26PM -0700, Seeker5528 wrote: > On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 13:20:17 -0400 > Angelo Bertolli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thanks, I tried it out, but it still didn't seem to correct the > > problem. I am still missing gnome sessions and screensaver settings. > > Usually the next steps I would take would be to check the file system > for errors. I keep a copy of System Rescue CD around for these kinds of > things: > > http://www.sysresccd.org/ > > : check the man page for the fsck that is appropriate for your file > system fsck.ext2, fsck.ext3, reiserfsck, etc...: > > man fsck.ext3 > > : shows you need the -f switch to force the disk to be checked even > if it is marked clean. After checking the disk the next thing would be > to install/reinstall packages that seem like they might be relavant, in > this case doing: > > apt-get install --reinstall gnome-session xscreensaver xscreensaver-gl > gnome-control-center > > If you are running sarge or etch then add capplets and capplets-data to > that list. If you are running sid add capplets-data and gnome-menus to > the list. Wouldn't all that be a last resort? Check bug reports against packages, quite often there is an answer in a bug followup. If you just reinstall you will just be reinstalling the bug. Check appropriate ML archives. I don't even run gnome or sid but I know there are a couple of transitions in sid relating to gnome and C++. I would guess that upgrading sid blindly at this stage is asking for trouble? -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: call for a vote -- should debian-user mailing list replies go to author or to list?
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 03:17:02AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2005-08-24 11:42:28, schrieb Dave Ewart: > > > Does anyone have a list of MUAs which have this functionality? > > > > In my experience: > > > > - Outlook/Express: NO > > > > - Mozilla Thunderbird: NO, although "Reply to All" gets halfway. You > > need to remove the original sender's address from "To" and change the > > "Cc" for debian-user to be "To". Actually, re-reading that, that is > > probably too cumbersome and should count as a full "NO". > > > > - Pegasus Mail: NO > > > > - Mutt: YES (my client of choice) > > :-) > > > Paul, you appear to be using KMail, which given your remarks I presume > > you feel it merits a "YES"? > > > > What about other clients? > > Pine: YES > > Eudora Lite:NO Gnus: ?? :-) -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exim4 and smtp_accept_queue_per_connection
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:04:51PM -0400, Burton Windle wrote: > Is there some magik needed to get Exim4 (4.52-1) to understand and obey > the smtp_accept_queue_per_connection setting? I've tried setting it (and > restarting exim), but Exim ignores me (I still get "no immediate delivery: > more than 10 messages received in one connection" in my logs). > > In my /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf I have: > smtp_accept_queue_per_connection='0' > > and I re-ran 'update-exim4.conf' and restarted Exim but Exim still won't > immediately process more than 10 emails at once from fetchmail. should be smtp_accept_queue_per_connection=0 not smtp_accept_queue_per_connection='0' -- Chris. == Reproduction if desired may be handled locally. -- rfc3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jabber
Chuck Payne wrote: > I have jabber install but can't seem to connect. Does anyone know > if/where there is a website talks about getting jabber working on Debian. Perhaps you are confusing client and server? I recommend that you try the 'psi' jabber client. apt-cache show psi Psi is a jabber client looking (by design) like licq. Besides basic instant messaging services, it provides support for features like groupchat and multiple accounts. For more information on jabber, see www.jabber.org (or the jabber package which contains the jabber server software). apt-get install psi Before psi I used ayttm which is also pretty good. For a curses based text client I am using mcabber available as a deb package from the author's site but not yet in the main Debian archive. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 01:02:14 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:50:53 -0300 > > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm actually starting to think about giving each > > > > > user their own partition, since it's so little > > > > > hassle. > > > > > > > > > Would that be feasable in an enviroment with 40.000 > > > > mail users ? ;-) > > > > > > Nah. But if you have 4 mail users, and that > > > translates to 4 Unix users in that box, well, you > > > could be doing much better :) There are many MTA+MDA > > > +POP/IMAP that do not require such nonsense :P > > > > Whay about nntp? > > What about NNTP? AFAIK it requires exactly one user on the > NNTP server... Although I have never had to deal directly > with setting INN. > > That said, if you meant NNTP access to mail, well, I know > Cyrus IMAPd v2.2 has it (its spool accepts incoming data > over LMTP, IMAP and NNTP, and outgoing over POP3, IMAP and > NNTP). I meant, "do nntd daemons work with A Few Big Files, or One File Per Message? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
I must get some sleep. Here's a proofread version of my reply :) On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:50:53 -0300 > > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > I'm actually starting to think about giving each user > > > > > their own partition, since it's so little hassle. > > > > > > > > > Would that be feasable in an enviroment with 40.000 mail > > > > users ? ;-) > > > > > > Nah. But if you have 4 mail users, and that translates > > > to 4 Unix users in that box, well, you could be doing > > > much better :) There are many MTA+MDA+POP/IMAP that do not > > > require such nonsense :P > > > > Whay about nntp? > > What about NNTP? AFAIK it requires exactly one user on the NNTP server... > Although I have never had to deal directly with setting INN. setting INN up, I mean. > That said, if you meant NNTP access to mail, well, I know Cyrus IMAPd v2.2 > has it (its spool accepts incoming data over LMTP, IMAP and NNTP, and > outgoing over POP3, IMAP and NNTP). And Cyrus needs only one user, for a virtually unlimited number of user accounts. Maybe it will choke if you give it more than 2^31 users, I am not in a state where I can dive into the Cyrus C code to root that out. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Runing 2 squids
Perhaps, if squid does get confused (two squids on one IP address) you could run the second instance on a fake IP address/alias but I don't know much about that. And I know all to much about that. IT is done by creating a new loopback ethernet device, and briging it to your real device. to get an ip addess for this device you send out a dhcp broadcast on it, which loops back, crosses the bridge and enters the real network. (unless your computer is the DHCP server). The exact same thing happens with outbound packets. Inbound packets might not need to cross the brige and loop back. I think linux is smart enough to realize that the addressed ip is the same ip as a device to which it is bridged, and tus insert it directly in the virtual device's incomming queue. A lot of work, but certainly intersting. [Unfortuantely this knowlege is Windows based, and linux may need some coaxing to accept it] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:50:53 -0300 > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > I'm actually starting to think about giving each user > > > > their own partition, since it's so little hassle. > > > > > > > Would that be feasable in an enviroment with 40.000 mail > > > users ? ;-) > > > > Nah. But if you have 4 mail users, and that translates > > to 4 Unix users in that box, well, you could be doing > > much better :) There are many MTA+MDA+POP/IMAP that do not > > require such nonsense :P > > Whay about nntp? What about NNTP? AFAIK it requires exactly one user on the NNTP server... Although I have never had to deal directly with setting INN. That said, if you meant NNTP access to mail, well, I know Cyrus IMAPd v2.2 has it (its spool accepts incoming data over LMTP, IMAP and NNTP, and outgoing over POP3, IMAP and NNTP). -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > On Monday 26 September 2005 07:20 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > That's JUST you. I backup / as well, so... > > > > Please explain to me why should I NOT care that I can still remote connect > > through the serial console to a system where /home, /usr and /var is hosed, > > but / is still OK so it is trivial to rebuild from backup? > > Who said you shouldn't? I think you are not understanding "That's JUST you", to my not-native-english-speaker skills is a sarcastic way to say "nobody else but you". So, I replied with a reason why many administrators would care about the state of /, even if /home is gone, and why they would have them separate to improve the chances of / surviving. > > Not to mention it is easier to install anoter system over, etc. > > > > "anecdotes" (sic). Hah. > ? > http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=anecdotes The "hah" was me getting annoyed. The (sic) was a mistake caused by my annoyance. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 00:50:53 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > I'm actually starting to think about giving each user > > > their own partition, since it's so little hassle. > > > > > Would that be feasable in an enviroment with 40.000 mail > > users ? ;-) > > Nah. But if you have 4 mail users, and that translates > to 4 Unix users in that box, well, you could be doing > much better :) There are many MTA+MDA+POP/IMAP that do not > require such nonsense :P Whay about nntp? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm actually starting to think about giving each user their own > > partition, since it's so little hassle. > > > Would that be feasable in an enviroment with 40.000 mail users ? ;-) Nah. But if you have 4 mail users, and that translates to 4 Unix users in that box, well, you could be doing much better :) There are many MTA+MDA+POP/IMAP that do not require such nonsense :P > I understood that basically Scsi HDD can have 15 partitions max and > IDE/SATA f.e. 64 partitions max. LVM _may_ change that picture, as it has nothing to do with partitions. But it probably has a limit somewhere, and it probably is not too high :-) -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome's Window Selector via keyboard
Eric P wrote: > Bill Marcum wrote: > >>On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 12:22:08AM -0500, Eric P wrote: >> >> >>>Anyone know a way access Gnome's Window Selector via the keyboard? >>> >> >>Alt-tab? >> >> > > Nope. Maybe 'Window List' is the correct English for it? It's the > applet that, when clicked, displays a drop down listing all running apps > on all desktops in Gnome. > > Eric P. > Ack... nevermind. Doesn't appear to be implemented yet. I just found this bug report. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141418 Thanks, Eric P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
Steve Lamb wrote: > Would you then agree that the supposed benefits of sudo in a single-user > environment are far outweighed by the troubles of trying to wrangle people > into using it instead of just teaching them good habits (regardless of tools) > and getting them working. Y'know what, I recall my statement. It is wrong and I'm surprised Kent and gang didn't hit upon it. I recalled my personal usage and came up with one example where sudo provides a method of doing something that would otherwise be a pain in the ass to do without it. Non-interactive scripts which require root for one portion can obtain root through sudo to a specific file because sudo has the NOPASSWD clause. By giving one or two essential commands over to a script user with sudo it's possible to get around some pesky permission problems without jumping through more convoluted hoops. Granted I don't recommend people give NOPASSWD access to a script that did copies and unlinks like mine did but it was a single-user machine and if someone were able to get on it to exploit that script I'd have larger problems to contend with. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Can't start OpenOffice anymore
Bernard Fay wrote: >Hello group, > >When I try to start OOo, I have the following error: > >The program 'soffice.bin' received an X Window System error. >This probably reflects a bug in the program. >The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. > (Details: serial 83 error_code 1 request_code 143 minor_code 21) > (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; > that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. > To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line > option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful > backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() >function.) > > >Does someone has a cure to this problem? > > I would start by renaming your ~/.openoffice directory. Or perhaps by creating a new user, logging in as that user, and trying to start OO.o to see if it's something with your account. You can try running soffice.bin from the command line to look for obvious error messages. You can also try running soffice.bin via strace, as in "strace soffice.gin" and look for any obvious errorr messages. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
Steve Lamb wrote: >Would you then agree that the supposed benefits of sudo in a single-user >environment are far outweighed by the troubles of trying to wrangle people >into using it instead of just teaching them good habits (regardless of tools) >and getting them working. > I really don't have an opinion about whether the supposed benefits ... outweigh (far, or barely) the troubles. (After this thread, I've fairly well swung around to your way of thinking.) However, what I've objected to all along is the claim that there is "*NO* benefit" to using sudo on a single-user machine; I originally claimed it to be "incorrect", and then modified it to be "not factual". Here's my original post: >I'll grant that there may be considerably less reason to use sudo on a >single-user machine, but to claim that there is "*NO* benefit of sudo" >is simply incorrect. > If the original claim had been "I find *NO* benefit ...", or "There's arguably *NO* benefit...", etc, I would have quit long ago. I accept the blame for being so stubborn on an issue of semantics, and wasting all this bandwidth. My apologies. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WiFi Problems (It doesn't work properly)
I reccently acquired a Toshiba laptop (Satellite A70 with Atheros 5004X wireless) and am running 2.6.12 (linux-image), Sid, KDE 3.4.2, X.org (not that that makes a difference, but for completion). I have installed the madwifi driver via the instructions on the marlow.dk site (to solve my problem, if you would like, I'd be quite willing to do it again: perhaps I didn't do it properly). Now, though I am connected to the Network and thus to the Internet, it is not wroking properly. When I go to a web site, (say google), it will say loading for a long time, then will either come in at the normal DSL speed, or simply will not work. Note that Gaim will often not connect (or it takes MANY attempts) and that apt-get (Synaptic) will usually work, after a LONG waiting period. ping http://www.google.com reveals nothing (says unknown host). What other information do you need to solve this problem? I thank you kindly in advance.-- —A watched bread-crumb never boils.—My hover-craft is full of eels.—[...]and that's the he and the she of it.
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
James Vahn wrote: > There's a package everyone should have installed- it's called dwww. It > gathers up all the system docs and makes them very much available via > web browser: http://localhost/dwww Uhm, what's wrong with: file:///usr/share/doc/ -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
dwww (was Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird)
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:36:18 -0700 James Vahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Albert wrote: [snip] > > Still reading this thread, Albert? Put this into a web > browser's URL box and read about Debian's menus: > file:/usr/share/doc/menu/html/index.html > > There's a package everyone should have installed- it's > called dwww. It gathers up all the system docs and makes > them very much available via web browser: > http://localhost/dwww This wants me to install apache. Would one of the smaller servers do as well? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer
When I send a print command, I get the following message in dmesg: parport0: FIFO is stuck parport0: BUSY timeout (1) in compat_write_block_pio DMA write timed out Do you have any idea what this means or what I should do? On 9/26/05, Malcolm Lalkaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry, I don't have anymore hints. To tell you the truth, I'm having > trouble printing as well, but I think my problems lies in the kernel > or its parallel port modules. > > On 9/26/05, L.V.Gandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 9/26/05, Malcolm Lalkaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Try installing the debian package cupsys-bsd. Tell me if it helps. > > > > I have it installed. > > lvgdell600m:~# dpkg -l|grep cups > > ii cupsys 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server > > ii cupsys-bsd 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD > > comman > > ii cupsys-client 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client > > pro > > ii cupsys-driver- 4.2.7-10 Gimp-Print printer drivers for CUPS > > ii cupsys-driver- 4.2.7-10 Gimp-Print printer drivers for CUPS > > ii gnome-cups-man 0.25-2.1 CUPS printer admin tool for GNOME > > ii libcupsimage2 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - image > > libs > > ii libcupsys2-gnu 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - libs > > ii libgnomecups1. 0.1.14-1 GNOME library for CUPS interaction > > ii libgnomecupsui 0.25-2.1 UI extensions to libgnomecups > > lvgdell600m:~# > > > > Any more hints please > > > > -- > > > > L.V.Gandhi > > http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ > > linux user No.205042 > > > -- > Malcolm > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer
Sorry, I don't have anymore hints. To tell you the truth, I'm having trouble printing as well, but I think my problems lies in the kernel or its parallel port modules. On 9/26/05, L.V.Gandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/26/05, Malcolm Lalkaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try installing the debian package cupsys-bsd. Tell me if it helps. > > I have it installed. > lvgdell600m:~# dpkg -l|grep cups > ii cupsys 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server > ii cupsys-bsd 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD > comman > ii cupsys-client 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client > pro > ii cupsys-driver- 4.2.7-10 Gimp-Print printer drivers for CUPS > ii cupsys-driver- 4.2.7-10 Gimp-Print printer drivers for CUPS > ii gnome-cups-man 0.25-2.1 CUPS printer admin tool for GNOME > ii libcupsimage2 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - image > libs > ii libcupsys2-gnu 1.1.23-10 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - libs > ii libgnomecups1. 0.1.14-1 GNOME library for CUPS interaction > ii libgnomecupsui 0.25-2.1 UI extensions to libgnomecups > lvgdell600m:~# > > Any more hints please > > -- > > L.V.Gandhi > http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ > linux user No.205042 -- Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
I have posted a URL for a wikipedia link on the same email that you quoted me from. That's where I got the information. On 9/26/05, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Malcolm Lalkaka wrote: > > ReiserFS is faster than ext3 ONLY for files under 4kB. In such a case, > > you can expect to experience faster speeds than ext3 by a factor of 10 > > Come to think of it, where did you get these numbers from? > > -- > "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring > them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond > where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot > Henrique Holschuh > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Malcolm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pointer for home networking
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 06:39:13PM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 22:54 +0100, michael wrote: > > I've had a look about but can't find a basic guide to setting up a home > > network. There seems much discussion of 'deeper' stuff but I'm stymied for > > setting up my first home Debian/Linux network. > > > > I've a computer that did have Internet connection via ethernet to a modem > > router. It's now connected to Internet by a USB modem. > > > > I've a second computer with an ethernet card. > > > > So all I want to do is connect the latter to the former such that both can > > access the Internet... > > Do you understand that Ethernet isn't like USB -- you can't just run a > regular Ethernet cable from one to the other and have them work? It's > like the old serial cable days; the devices come in 2 flavors, and they > must be connected properly or they just sit there. Unless you're using the decades-obsolete coaxial cable for your net. > > The simplest (hardware-wise) thing for what you describe might be to run > a (special) crossover Ethernet cable between the Ethernet ports of the 2 > computers -- and setting up the one with the USB modem to be a > firewall/router to allow the other one access to the Net. > > The little home network router/firewall box described by others sure > would be a lot less trouble, for about $60 or so vs $5 for the cable. > Unless you're an iptables whiz, that it... > > -- > Glenn English > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > GPG ID: D0D7FF20 > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pointer for home networking
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 06:18:15PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Michael writes: > > I don't want to fork out dosh for a modem/router. > > The "router" can be an old junker pc running Linux. It can even be one of your two PC's, as long as you're willing to dedicate it to Linux. And you'd have to put an ethernet card on it for your local net, in addition to what you've got to talk to the rest of the world. Then you can set up that PC as a masquerading router. Look for the HOWTO on IP Masquerading. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Runing 2 squids
On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 21:55, Mariusz Kruk wrote: > Ben Sagal napisał(a): > > Is it possible to run two copies of squid concurrently (same > > executable + cache, just different config files)? > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you cannot share cache directiories > between different squid instances. > But you could always try to run one copy of squid acting only as a proxy > with no cache to the other instance of squid on the same host. > What would you like to achieve this way anyway? > Just a thought, but it might (I can't think why it won't) be possible that a second non-caching instance of squid could peer with the first instance as a parent/sibling/child cache (whatever you want the relationship to be). Also, check the man page for squid, "man squid". It allows you to specify some command line arguments to squid such as: "-f file Use the given config-file instead of /etc/squid/squid.conf" >From memory you may have to change some port numbers in the "NETWORK OPTIONS" section of the config file to get your squid instances to talk/peer with each other. Perhaps, if squid does get confused (two squids on one IP address) you could run the second instance on a fake IP address/alias but I don't know much about that. Even if you could run two instances of squid from the one disk cache I would not recommend it (AFAIAC). AFAIK squid was not designed to be used in this manner, but is IS designed to share a cache via peering, so that I think is your best bet. A search on the squid-users mailing list: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=and&format=short&config=squid-users_squid-cache_org&restrict=&exclude=&words=multiple+instances The Squid Web Cache Wiki: http://squidwiki.kinkie.it/squidwiki/MultipleInstances If that doesn't help try asking on the squid-cache mailing list: www.squid-cache.org HTH, Brett -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
Albert wrote: > I am a new user of Debian. My first task after system install is > to install Firefox and Tbird, preferably the latest 1.0.6 or > 1.0.7. It's a piece of cake to download and install these from > the mozilla site, but I have no idea how I might then wrap them > with an icon and to get them to show in the menus. Do debian > users not do this sort of thing? If so, could someone point me > to the appropriate documentation? Still reading this thread, Albert? Put this into a web browser's URL box and read about Debian's menus: file:/usr/share/doc/menu/html/index.html There's a package everyone should have installed- it's called dwww. It gathers up all the system docs and makes them very much available via web browser: http://localhost/dwww Incidentally, ~$ wajig policy mozilla-firefox mozilla-firefox: Installed: 1.0.6-5 Candidate: 1.0.6-5 Version table: 1.0.7-1 0 50 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main Packages *** 1.0.6-5 0 990 ftp://ftp.us.debian.org testing/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Default rxvt & urxvt fonts in Debian Sarge
Hello, I'm trying to switch from rxvt to urxvt (rxvt-unicode), but keep the same font appearance. As far as I can tell, I have no default font configured for rxvt (.Xresources and .Xdefaults are blank). I found a default font for urxvt in /etc/X11/app-defaults/URxvt, which I commented out. I then tried relaunching rxvt and urxvt, but the font in urxvt was a different size and may have been a different font. Any suggestions how to fix this? I muddled around with the -fn switch and .Xdefaults for awhile, but couldn't fix it. Thanks, Dasunt -- Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice. - Vernon Schryver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pointer for home networking
On Monday 26 September 2005 4:54 pm, michael wrote: > So all I want to do is connect the latter to the former such that both can > access the Internet... There is probably some very easy way to do this graphically but I like this method: Install ipkungfu from aptitude. Go to /etc/ipkungfu and edit each of the .conf files. be sure to turn on forward.conf. Run '/etc/init.d/ipkungfu start'. Set the ethernet port on your master computer to 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0. Set the ethernet port on your slave to 192.168.0.2/255.255.255.0 with the default route set to 192.168.0.1 and be sure to configure the DNS entries in /etc/resolv.conf to the same ones your ISP hands out to your master server. Connect the two ethernet ports with a switch or a crossover cable. That's it! Be sure to configure ipkungfu's other options so you have some security. -- I use digital signatures and encryption. My key is stored at pgp.mit.edu key ID code: "0x8DB3BF09". F: F628 D9D3 E57A C281 5EFE 7DF7 B52A A393 8DB3 BF09 pgpBIMt1ch79s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Can't start OpenOffice anymore
Hello group, When I try to start OOo, I have the following error: The program 'soffice.bin' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 83 error_code 1 request_code 143 minor_code 21) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) Does someone has a cure to this problem? Thanks in advance, Bernard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apache2 memory consumption?
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 07:30:07PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Has anyone had issues with apache2 eating all the system memory? > > A while ago my server had this in the syslog: > > Sep 26 18:41:53 santiago kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed > (gfp=0x1d2/0) > Sep 26 18:41:53 santiago kernel: VM: killing process apache2 > > When I logged in, I had about 128 MB of RAM used and 128 MB into swap > with about 384 MB of RAM free (I imagine from when apache2 was killed). > Any ideas? > Disregard. It turns out that in playing with mod_rewrite I created some infinite loops. It was not pretty. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto pgp0XGEInrGOM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: More than 2, but less than 3 GiB per process memory?
Hello, Ron Johnson wrote: > I get the same message at 3057MB. Even > > This test has to be bogus, though, because my RAM+swap is > less than 2GiB. > > This lets me alloc a 1650MB on a desktop w/ 1GB RAM, 1GB swap, > GNOME 2.10, lots of pages open in Firefox, etc. > > [code that dirties allocated memory via memset] I've done some further research and found out a few things. Just allocating memory in 1MB-sized blocks with malloc works up to the amount of free address space (which is 4 GiB - 1 GiB for the kernel - a few bytes for program code and shared libraries and used heap/stack etc. That is, roughly 3 GiB of free address space. Of course, this is overcommitted, otherwise it wouldn't work on systems with RAM/swap less than that). The 1650MB amount you get with your program should be consistent with what the free command shows (Free mem without buffers/cache plus free swap). With my test program, I found out I can allocate approx. 1.8 Gig, and then again about 750 MB. So, I can have > 2 GiB allocated, though not with a single malloc/new invocation. I tried watching the address space of this new test program. You can find out about the memory map/address space of a process by cat'ing /proc/pid/maps. no allocation done yet: 08048000-08049000 r-xp 03:0b 132427 /home/mc/memcheck-layout 08049000-0804a000 rw-p 03:0b 132427 /home/mc/memcheck-layout 4100-41015000 r-xp 03:0b 164627 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 41015000-41017000 rw-p 00014000 03:0b 164627 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 41019000-4114a000 r-xp 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114a000-4114b000 r--p 0013 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114b000-4114e000 rw-p 00131000 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114e000-41151000 rw-p 4114e000 00:00 0 b7f49000-b7f4a000 rw-p b7f49000 00:00 0 b7f61000-b7f63000 rw-p b7f61000 00:00 0 bfe4d000-bfe63000 rw-p bfe4d000 00:00 0 [stack] e000-f000 ---p 00:00 0 [vdso] 1.8 GB allocated: 08048000-08049000 r-xp 03:0b 132427 /home/mc/memcheck-layout 08049000-0804a000 rw-p 03:0b 132427 /home/mc/memcheck-layout 4100-41015000 r-xp 03:0b 164627 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 41015000-41017000 rw-p 00014000 03:0b 164627 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 41019000-4114a000 r-xp 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114a000-4114b000 r--p 0013 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114b000-4114e000 rw-p 00131000 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114e000-41151000 rw-p 4114e000 00:00 0 4caab000-b7f4a000 rw-p 4caab000 00:00 0 b7f6-b7f63000 rw-p b7f6 00:00 0 bfe4d000-bfe63000 rw-p bfe4d000 00:00 0 [stack] e000-f000 ---p 00:00 0 [vdso] Additional 750 MB allocated: 08048000-08049000 r-xp 03:0b 132427 /home/mc/memcheck-layout 08049000-0804a000 rw-p 03:0b 132427 /home/mc/memcheck-layout 144be000-4100 rw-p 144be000 00:00 0 4100-41015000 r-xp 03:0b 164627 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 41015000-41017000 rw-p 00014000 03:0b 164627 /lib/ld-2.3.5.so 41019000-4114a000 r-xp 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114a000-4114b000 r--p 0013 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114b000-4114e000 rw-p 00131000 03:0b 392874 /lib/tls/libc-2.3.5.so 4114e000-41151000 rw-p 4114e000 00:00 0 4caab000-b7f4a000 rw-p 4caab000 00:00 0 b7f6-b7f63000 rw-p b7f6 00:00 0 bfe4d000-bfe63000 rw-p bfe4d000 00:00 0 [stack] e000-f000 ---p 00:00 0 [vdso] Reduced to the interesting parts: no allocation: b7f49000-b7f4a000 rw-p b7f49000 00:00 0 1.8 GB allocated: 4caab000-b7f4a000 rw-p 4caab000 00:00 0 additional 750 MB allocated: 144be000-4100 rw-p 144be000 00:00 0 [...] 4caab000-b7f4a000 rw-p 4caab000 00:00 0 So, malloc appears to only use contiguos areas of address space with a single invocation, but allocating more memory in a different "address space hole" the second time around works fine. There is some interesting discussion to be found on the kernel mailing list: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0002.1/0005.html One solution to my problem seems to be the 4G/4G patch by Ingo Molnar, which gives me another GiB of address space previously used by the kernel: https://lwn.net/Articles/39283/ While the announcement does not actually mention the benefit for the address space, this is later clarified in more recent versions of the patch itself. http://people.redhat.com/mingo/4g-patches/4g-2.6.6-B7 : > [...] There's also a 33% increase in user-space VM size - database > applications might see a boost from this.[...] Unfortunately, somewhat recent discussions at http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0405.2/1424.html indicate that the patch won't go in. It might be a workaround for desperate people; maybe we'll even have to fall back to that third party kernel patch ourselves, but hopefully not. And the effect on malloc has not yet been tested by me.
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Monday 26 September 2005 07:20 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > That's JUST you. I backup / as well, so... > > Please explain to me why should I NOT care that I can still remote connect > through the serial console to a system where /home, /usr and /var is hosed, > but / is still OK so it is trivial to rebuild from backup? Who said you shouldn't? I think you are not understanding > Not to mention it is easier to install anoter system over, etc. > > "anecdotes" (sic). Hah. ? http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=anecdotes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
Hello Dick, > I'm actually starting to think about giving each user their own > partition, since it's so little hassle. > Would that be feasable in an enviroment with 40.000 mail users ? ;-) I understood that basically Scsi HDD can have 15 partitions max and IDE/SATA f.e. 64 partitions max. Am I mistaken, or do you know more than me ? Best regards Nils Valentin Tokyo / Japan http://www.be-known-online.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spumux does not work
Eric, Thanks for the hint. Yes this seems to have solved my difficulties too. I did not see a bug report for the dvdauthor package that addresses this issue. Is this something that we would submit a bug report for? TedF -Original Message- From: Eric P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sep 26, 2005 3:43 AM To: Ted Flamouropoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Spumux does not work Eric P wrote: > Ted Flamouropoulos wrote: > >>All, >> >>I have a recent problem with spumux in trying to multiplex subtiltes into a >>movie file. Apparently spumux does not recognize the subtitle images in the >>directory. I can open and look at the subtitles using a viewer, so the images >>are not the problem. >> >>I am not sure whether the current oustanding bugs in the dvdauthor or >>imagemagick packages address the problem, does anybody have some advice? >> >>I am running testing/etch with imagemagick (6.0.6.2-2.4) and dvdauthor >>(0.6.11-2) >> >>Here is what I get when I run the command... >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/dvd_collection/$ spumux sub.xml < movie_remux.mpg > >>movie_final.mpg >>DVDAuthor::spumux, version 0.6.11. >>Build options: gnugetopt magick iconv freetype fribidi >>Send bugs to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>INFO: Locale=en_US >>INFO: Converting filenames to ISO-8859-1 >>ImageMagick: Unable to load file (sub0.png). >>WARN: Bad image, skipping line -1 >>ImageMagick: Unable to load file (sub1.png). >>WARN: Bad image, skipping line -1 >>ImageMagick: Unable to load file (sub2.png). >>WARN: Bad image, skipping line -1 >>ImageMagick: Unable to load file (sub3.png). >>WARN: Bad image, skipping line -1 >>ImageMagick: Unable to load file (sub4.png) >> : >> : >> : >>etc... >> > > You're not alone. > > I'm making DVD menus with spumux and noticed the menu elements don't > show up. > > I got this line in the output while creating a menu.mpg file. > >>spumux menu.xml < menu_background.mpg > menu_final.mpg > > ... > ImageMagick: Unable to load file (menu_highlighted.png). > WARN: Bad image, skipping line -1 > ... > > So is this an issue the w/spumux (dvdauthor) or ImageMagick build in > testing? I'm still just a newb w/Debian, but my guess is the issue is > with the dvdauthor build in testing as the version of ImageMagick hasn't > changed between stable and testing (I'm running testing), but the > dvdauthor build is newer in testing (stable: 0.6.11-1; testing:0.6.11-2) > http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?version=all&subword=0&exact=0&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=dvdauth&searchon=names > > I tried to get the stable build installed again, but to no avail. > I tried: > >>apt-get -t stable install dvdauthor > > (and it installed 0.6.11-2, not 0.6.11.1) > > And this: > >>apt-get install dvdauthor=0.6.11-1 > > ... > E: Version '0.6.11-1' for 'dvdauthor' was not found > > I'm at a loss. > Eric P > I just grabbed the stable deb package for dvdauthor and dpkg'ed it: # dpkg -i dvdauthor_0.6.11-1_i386.deb http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fd%2Fdvdauthor%2Fdvdauthor_0.6.11-1_i386.deb&md5sum=3aa3977fc4e00ffc333b67359f65be25&arch=i386&type=main This "fixed" the problem I was having. Let me know how you fare. Eric P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Two internet connections, one firewall
On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 17:09 +0200, Andrea Ganduglia wrote: > On 9/26/05, Brent Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Andrea Ganduglia wrote: > > > I wonder if it is possible to have two internet connections running at > > > the same time on one box. Sure, one connection, one Eth > > > > > > Schema: > > > > > > Router0 <---> Eth0 TUX Eth1 <---> Router1 > > >Eth2 > > > | > > > | > > >LAN (Hub) > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think solution suggested from David is better way for me. > I > have just one doubt. All my ADSL link have static IP Address, and I > have a web server into LAN. In this way can I view web server outside > LAN? or in small words, can I pre routing one ADSL link onto my web > server while I using it for LAN connections? Sure, why not? assuming the ip address of your internal webserver is 192.168.0.5 iptables --table nat --append PREROUTING --in-interface eth0 --protocol tcp --destination-port 80 --jump DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.5 I think that should do it, assuming you are already masquerading your internal hosts. That being said...its generally a good idea to place computers that accept connections from the outside world in a DMZ, so that you have plenty of control over what type of traffic passes between your webserver and internal/external hosts. -davidc -- gpg-key: http://www.zettazebra.com/files/key.gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Video card : ATI Radeon X300
L.V.Gandhi wrote: > add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list > > deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main > > I want to know if this xorg works without problem in sarge. It's made for sarge but not officially supported by Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: very slow usb 2.0
Roberto Winter wrote: > someone once told me that not having the modules would make my kernel > faster... is that not true? That is NOT true. My rule of thumb is compile the things I need at startup into the kernel and everything else as modules. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RAID and Dual Boot Install
I am trying to install debian on a system that already contains windows XP on a raid 0 partition. I've got some difficult hardware so bare with me on this. My motherboard is a nforce4 chipset and I have two disk, sda and sdb, which are configured in a raid 0 array through the nvraid bios. I have a single partition(NTFS) which occupies ~40GB and I would like to install debian in the remaining space. The debian installer finds my disks okay but doesn't recognize the raid.(I really didn't expect it do so) I've gotten knoppix to boot with the same outcome. The question is how do I get debian to recognize the disk setup. I have read about "dmraid" which doesn't seem to be available in debian. Can I do this with existing debian tools or should I get another hard disk? I welcome doc/how-to/RTFM's on this...Thanks Possible useful output..additional specs/info can be provided upon request [EMAIL PROTECTED] dmesg Linux version 2.6.12 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc-Version 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-7)) #2 SMP Tue Aug 9 23:20:52 CEST 2005 ---snip Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077 RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 10K size 1024 blocksize Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx NFORCE-CK804: IDE controller at PCI slot :00:06.0 NFORCE-CK804: chipset revision 162 NFORCE-CK804: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later NFORCE-CK804: BIOS didn't set cable bits correctly. Enabling workaround. NFORCE-CK804: :00:06.0 (rev a2) UDMA133 controller ide0: BM-DMA at 0xe800-0xe807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA Probing IDE interface ide0... hda: _NEC DVD_RW ND-3520AW, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdb: Pioneer DVD-ROM ATAPIModel DVD-117 0107, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 Probing IDE interface ide1... Probing IDE interface ide2... Probing IDE interface ide3... Probing IDE interface ide4... Probing IDE interface ide5... hda: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20 hdb: ATAPI 126X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache libata version 1.11 loaded. sata_nv version 0.6 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APSI] enabled at IRQ 23 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:07.0[A] -> Link [APSI] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 23 PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:07.0 to 64 ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9F0 ctl 0xBF2 bmdma 0xD400 irq 23 ata2: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x970 ctl 0xB72 bmdma 0xD408 irq 23 ata1: no device found (phy stat ) scsi0 : sata_nv ata2: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:74eb 83:7f63 84:4003 85:74e8 86:3c43 87:4003 88:407f ata2: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/133, 72303840 sectors: lba48 nv_sata: Primary device added nv_sata: Primary device removed nv_sata: Secondary device added nv_sata: Secondary device removed ata2: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133 scsi1 : sata_nv Vendor: ATA Model: WDC WD360GD-00FL Rev: 31.0 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05 ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APSJ] enabled at IRQ 22 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:08.0[A] -> Link [APSJ] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22 PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:08.0 to 64 ata3: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x9E0 ctl 0xBE2 bmdma 0xC000 irq 22 ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x960 ctl 0xB62 bmdma 0xC008 irq 22 ata3: no device found (phy stat ) scsi2 : sata_nv ata4: dev 0 cfg 49:2f00 82:74eb 83:7f63 84:4003 85:74e8 86:3c43 87:4003 88:407f ata4: dev 0 ATA, max UDMA/133, 72303840 sectors: lba48 nv_sata: Primary device added nv_sata: Primary device removed nv_sata: Secondary device added nv_sata: Secondary device removed ata4: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133 scsi3 : sata_nv Vendor: ATA Model: WDC WD360GD-00FL Rev: 31.0 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 05 SCSI device sda: 72303840 512-byte hdwr sectors (37020 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back SCSI device sda: 72303840 512-byte hdwr sectors (37020 MB) SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back sda: sda1 Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 SCSI device sdb: 72303840 512-byte hdwr sectors (37020 MB) SCSI device sdb: drive cache: write back SCSI device sdb: 72303840 512-byte hdwr sectors (37020 MB) SCSI device sdb: drive cache: write back sdb: unknown partition table Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi3, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0 Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 1 Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 6 Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 7 Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 8 EISA: Detected 0 cards. NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP: routing cache hash table of 4096 buckets, 64Kbytes TCP established hash table entries: 131072 (order: 9, 2097152 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 65536 (order: 7, 786432 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 131072 bind 65536) NET: Registered protocol family 1 NET: Registered protocol family 15 ACPI wakeup devices: HUB0
Re: pointer for home networking
On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 22:54 +0100, michael wrote: > I've had a look about but can't find a basic guide to setting up a home > network. There seems much discussion of 'deeper' stuff but I'm stymied for > setting up my first home Debian/Linux network. > > I've a computer that did have Internet connection via ethernet to a modem > router. It's now connected to Internet by a USB modem. > > I've a second computer with an ethernet card. > > So all I want to do is connect the latter to the former such that both can > access the Internet... Do you understand that Ethernet isn't like USB -- you can't just run a regular Ethernet cable from one to the other and have them work? It's like the old serial cable days; the devices come in 2 flavors, and they must be connected properly or they just sit there. The simplest (hardware-wise) thing for what you describe might be to run a (special) crossover Ethernet cable between the Ethernet ports of the 2 computers -- and setting up the one with the USB modem to be a firewall/router to allow the other one access to the Net. The little home network router/firewall box described by others sure would be a lot less trouble, for about $60 or so vs $5 for the cable. Unless you're an iptables whiz, that it... -- Glenn English [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG ID: D0D7FF20 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
Kent West wrote: > The original claim was that sudo provides no benefit on a single-user > machine. Correct. > We both seem to agree that sudo provides logging. Correct. > You claim that you don't need logging on a single-user machine, because > you know what you (the single-user admin) did when, whereas I claim that > I find it useful to have a record of what I've done when. While that record may be useful as I have pointed out it is not the only way that logging of what you've done can be achieved. One doesn't need sudo to log when one installs things. aptitude, which amazingly as the de facto standard for Debian currently, logs information so your provided example is moot. While I'm sure you can contrive other examples the idea of logging commands as an incidental reminder of other things is hardly a top priority when people are installing sudo and thus I don't think exactly falls under a benefit of sudo. Generally speaking when people want to have a reminder of something they might get better utility of a pen and a pad of post-its than sudo. > So, are you saying the logging provided by sudo on a single-user machine > is or is not a benefit? I'm saying that it is irrelevant on a single-user machine as pretty much any reason that one would want logging does not apply to a single user machine and any contrived examples are incidental and generally applicable to a dozen or three other applications in both the incidental sense or in the specific sense. IE, want a reminder on the computer, get a PIM application. Etc. The benefit of sudo logging is so when multiple people are engaged in root level operations and something gets toasted an individual other than the one who toasted that something has a snowball's chance in hell of being able to repair it by first reviewing the logs to: A: see what was done and. B: who did it so they can thwack said person's knuckles with a ruler before C: undoing said damage. So while *you* find it useful to your memory that on the day you installed X with using sudo and grepping the logs to find X so you know when Y happened that is not a benefit of sudo as one can do it by a dozen or three different means on or off the computer. sudo logging for an audit trail in a multi-user root level environment, on the other hand, is a fairly unique property to sudo and is a benefit... just not one to a single-user environment. > Okay, I can see that you don't find benefit in using sudo. I still > disagree with the global claim (which is what this entire thread has > been about) that there is "*NO* benefit" to using sudo on a single-user > machine. Would you then agree that the supposed benefits of sudo in a single-user environment are far outweighed by the troubles of trying to wrangle people into using it instead of just teaching them good habits (regardless of tools) and getting them working. I mean think about the irony here. This thread started because someone wanted to install some software. Someone else told them how to do it with root. Someone else came along and told 'em they really should use sudo. If they don't have sudo (which Debian doesn't install by default AFAIK) then what do they have to do? Oh, install software as root... which is the very thing they wanted to do in the first place and told was bad! I just don't like seeing that 3-4 message exchange every time some newbie wants to install software. It has to be frustrating for them. Something tells me when they're looking to install software the fact that sudo can log that command doesn't even enter their mind as a desirable trait. :P -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
Kent West wrote: > But this is a benefit of being root; it is not an argument in support of > the claim that there is no benefit to sudo. No benefit for a single-user machine where the sole user is the de facto administrator. I made a specific statemeny, please when paraphrasing it do so in it's entirety so as not to misrepresent what I said. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
Kent West wrote:
> I'm forever needing to know when I did something. Usually not to fix a
> problem, but to build a context from which I can remember something
> else. ("Let's see, I know I paid the electric bill online the same day I
> installed "starvoyager"; when was that?" as a trivial and hypothetical
> example.)
> So again, we're simply back to the idea that sudo provides no benefit to
> you, but it does to me.
Something tells me that this isn't a universally held benefit nor, again,
is it one that is limited to sudo. I don't use sudo and yet I could tell you
exactly when I installed starvoyager.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log# zgrep starvoyager * | grep INSTALL
aptitude.1.gz:[INSTALL, DEPENDENCIES] starvoyager-data
aptitude.1.gz:[INSTALL] starvoyager
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log# zless aptitude.1.gz
[ snip of output to relevant lines ]
Aptitude 0.2.15.9: log report
Wed Aug 31 15:05:23 2005
[ snip more lines ]
[INSTALL] starvoyager
Yup, on Aug. 31st at 3:05pm I installed starvoyager. Didn't need sudo to
tell me that. ;P
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Re: Newbie wants Firefox and Tbird
Kent West wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > /usr/bin/synaptic, at least on my box. > (Granted, I don't use synaptic, but the point is that some X apps > require root; this is just an example.) >> I've yet to see an X app that needs me to have root. Chances are if such >>a beast exists I don't need it. Maybe you missed that I wrote that. You quoted it so it is hard to understand how you could have missed it. > However, if the first xterm is not logged in as root, I can type "rm -rf > fonts" in either window without hurting myself. If I intend to delete > the X11 fonts, I have to do the extra typing of "sudo rm -rf fonts". Contrived examples don't help. Now try machine A and machine B where you want to get rid of directories on machine B which now exist on machine A. Sudo doesn't save you from the mistake in either case while looking at the prompt would. The very same prompt which would let you know where you are, what user you are and, in the case of my example, chances visually based on the permissions you have. Relying on sudo to be your safety net means you're more apt to make a mistake by not paying attention to the prompt. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: More than 2, but less than 3 GiB per process memory?
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:34:15 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > > Malte Cornils wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have a clue why 2 GiB is the limit?
>
> It is not for me. I can malloc() up to 2.9G.
>
> > It seems malloc restricts itself to the user space.
> > But if you were te replace malloc (or provide your own
> > allocation and freeing methods, which *miht* be possible
> > in C++) you could do the following.
>
> Although I am sure the details of malloc() are involved I
> don't think that is squarely the problem here. I have a
> simple test program which mallocs and reports and I can
> definitely get to 2.9 on a 32-bit system.
>
> Out of memory at 2934 M
I get the same message at 3057MB. Even
This test has to be bogus, though, because my RAM+swap is
less than 2GiB.
This lets me alloc a 1650MB on a desktop w/ 1GB RAM, 1GB swap,
GNOME 2.10, lots of pages open in Firefox, etc.
#include
#include
#include
#include
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
unsigned long mb = atoi(argv[1]) * 1024 * 1024;
char *p = malloc(mb);
memset(p, 0xDEAD, (mb/2));
}
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Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 18:51:09 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Ron Johnson wrote: > > I don't have a link, but I do know that Reiser can pack > > multiple small files into 1 block (tail packing). Thus, > > if > > I have been told that reiser3 tailpacking is extremely > hideous for performance. That must be kept in mind as well. It probably depends on the average size of the file in the partition. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP- Grub problem, I can't load WInXP
Andy wrote: > > On Monday 26 September 2005 3:17, Dennis Stosberg wrote: > > Windows XP is on /dev/hda, which is (hd0,0) in GRUB's notation. So, > > if you install the GRUB boot sector into /dev/hda1, you overwrite > > Windows XP's boot sector in that partition. That means you won't be > > able to boot Windows XP at all, because GRUB will simply reload > > itself when it tries to chain-load from (hd0,0). > > Ah, didn't realise that, oops. > > > What you probably wanted was to overwrite /dev/hda's MBR, which is > > (hd0) in GRUB's notation with the GRUB boot loader. So the BIOS > > would start grub at (hd0), which in turn can chain-load Windows XP > > from (hd0,0). Or other systems/kernels from other devices. > > Double oops. > > > I'd suggest you to let the Windows XP setup restore the boot sector > > of /dev/hda1 again. After that you can reinstall GRUB to (hd0) and > > _not_ to (hd0,0). > > Well, I booted using the XP recovery console and have tried various fixmbr and > fixboot commands but none of them brought windows back. So I've just > installed grub again in hd0 to get an OS back. Since your WinXP on /dev/hda1 is a FAT32 partition, one thing that might work is to use the backup boot sector that is kept on FAT32 file systems to restore the WinXP boot sector on /dev/hda1. dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1 skip=6 The above dd command will read the 7th sector (or sector 6) of the partition, and then write it to the 1st sector (or sector 0). The 7th sector is where the backup boot sector is stored on FAT32. The "skip" means it will skip over the first 6 sectors when reading from the partition - since you are interested in the 7th sector. GRUB should have only overwritten the 1st sector of the partition. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pointer for home networking
Michael writes: > I don't want to fork out dosh for a modem/router. The "router" can be an old junker pc running Linux. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
apache2 memory consumption?
Has anyone had issues with apache2 eating all the system memory? A while ago my server had this in the syslog: Sep 26 18:41:53 santiago kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) Sep 26 18:41:53 santiago kernel: VM: killing process apache2 When I logged in, I had about 128 MB of RAM used and 128 MB into swap with about 384 MB of RAM free (I imagine from when apache2 was killed). Any ideas? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto pgp2ObuBHnVzh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: tar backup ok but restore errors w/ scsi dat dds2
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, michael wrote: > > I think this might be a hardware compatibility problem, but you be the > > judge. > > > > Using tar, I can write a tape archive to the scsi dat drive (tar cvf > > /dev/st0 /usr/kbmosas) without any errors but when I try to read the tape > > back (tar tvf /dev/st0 or tar xvf /dev/st0), I get the following > > messages > > intermingled with the verbose output from tar listing the files in the > > archive; > > > > tar: Skipping to next header means the tape was jumping around waiting for your system or .. > > tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers > > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors your tape is bad .. and/or clean the head ... and/or when writing .. find /home/kbmosas | buffer | tar cvf /dev/st0 c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > On Monday 26 September 2005 05:44 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > > > On Monday 26 September 2005 11:27 am, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Daniel Garcia wrote: > > > > > Why is it interesting to have a different partition > > > > > for / and for /home? I have never seen the point in a > > > > > > > > So that your / is as static as possible. And decoupled from about as > > > > much as possible. The first time you have problems with memory or > > > > disks, you will understand. > > > > > > Who cares about / if your personal data is trashed in /home? > > > > I, for one. /home is on backup. So is /, but it gets far easier to > > restore if / is still good. > > That's JUST you. I backup / as well, so... Please explain to me why should I NOT care that I can still remote connect through the serial console to a system where /home, /usr and /var is hosed, but / is still OK so it is trivial to rebuild from backup? Not to mention it is easier to install anoter system over, etc. "anecdotes" (sic). Hah. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pointer for home networking
michael wrote: >>michael wrote: >> >> >> >>>I've had a look about but can't find a basic guide to setting up a home >>>network. There seems much discussion of 'deeper' stuff but I'm stymied >>>for >>>setting up my first home Debian/Linux network. >>> >>>I've a computer that did have Internet connection via ethernet to a modem >>>router. It's now connected to Internet by a USB modem. >>> >>> > >Clarification: >I've no router (the old one is gone). >The USB modem is not a router, just a modem. >I don't want to fork out dosh for a modem/router. > > > > >>>I've a second computer with an ethernet card. >>> >>>So all I want to do is connect the latter to the former such that both >>>can >>>access the Internet... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Plug each machine into the router (disconnect the USB/modem connection). >> >>So now you have your DSL/Cable/Satellite broadband connection coming >>into the house, which is plugged into the modem. The modem is plugged >>into the multi-port router. And the PCs are plugged into the router. >>Reboot/restart networking on each PC, and you'll probably have instant >>access. >> >> > >Yes, I understand that approach, but it's not the route (pun intended) I >want to go down. But thanks. > > > > Er, then I'm confused about what you're trying to accomplish. Perhaps you're trying to turn the computer that's plugged into the USB modem into a router, sharing it's internet connection with the second machine? -- Kent > > > -- Kent West Technology Support /A/bilene /C/hristian /U/niversity -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tar backup ok but restore errors w/ scsi dat dds2
> I think this might be a hardware compatibility problem, but you be the > judge. > > Using tar, I can write a tape archive to the scsi dat drive (tar cvf > /dev/st0 /usr/kbmosas) without any errors but when I try to read the tape > back (tar tvf /dev/st0 or tar xvf /dev/st0), I get the following > messages > intermingled with the verbose output from tar listing the files in the > archive; > > tar: Skipping to next header > tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors > > The messages do not seem to be consistent - sometimes the base-64 header > message does not happen and once or twice out of about ten or twenty > tries, > I can read the tape back without an error. It seems like the bigger the > backup the more likely the problem. you're not hitting the 2Gb limit (with some tar) are you? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome's Window Selector via keyboard
Bill Marcum wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 12:22:08AM -0500, Eric P wrote: > >>Anyone know a way access Gnome's Window Selector via the keyboard? >> > > Alt-tab? > > Nope. Maybe 'Window List' is the correct English for it? It's the applet that, when clicked, displays a drop down listing all running apps on all desktops in Gnome. Eric P. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [boot optimization] How to speed up the boot?
hi ya On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, belbo wrote: > my etch works very well, but the startup process takes too long... I can see > many useless probing scripts working during the startup. > I thought I could remove some autoprobing script from /etc/rc*, but I don't > know > which. Here's the list: make sure you can boot from cdrom or floppy or ?? than have fun .. turn off (below) means chmod 400 "init-script" > S01glibc.sh@ i donno why somebody decided ot do that ... glibc is required if you have the wrong version .. things will break .. it'd be obvious > S02mountvirtfs@ turn off > S05bootlogd@ turn off > S05initrd-tools.sh@ turn off unless you are using ( require ) initrd to boot your box > S05keymap.sh@ always leave it on > S07hdparm@ turn off ... or just replace with " hdparm -d 1 -X69 -c 1 -u 1 " ( be sure you know wht the options does ) > S10checkroot.sh@ turn off .. but if you get cracked, don't ask "how to find what is changed by using it " > S18ifupdown-clean@ turn off ... seems whacky way to turn on and off the network > S20module-init-tools@ > S20modutils@ turn off if you do not need modules > S25libdevmapper1.00@ turn off > S30checkfs.sh@ turn off if you are polite to your machine when you power off and/or force yourself to check before mounting after a boo-boo > S30procps.sh@ another whacky *.sh script > S35mountall.sh@ "mount -av" should do the same > S36discover@ turn off if you do not change hardware > S36lm-sensors@ turn off if you dont care abut reading cpu temp and fan speeds > S36mountvirtfs@ another whacky script > S38pppd-dns@ turn off if you do not need ppp > S39dns-clean@ turn off if this is not a dns server but make sure /etc/resolv.conf is point to your dns server > S39ifupdown@ you might want this if you want to have network connection > S40hostname.sh@ another whack script hostname foo.bar.com > S40hotplug@ turn off ... > S40networking@ other half of ifupdown > S41hotplug-net@ turn off > S43portmap@ turn off if this machine is not an nfs server exporting stuff > S45mountnfs.sh@ another whacky script > S46setserial@ turn off if you dont need rs232 but sometime it screws up your console > S48console-screen.sh@ another whacky script > S50hwclock.sh@ > S51ntpdate@ turn off if you dont care about time and/or ntpdate will do the same > S55bootmisc.sh@ all the stuff you turned off, will now show up in bootmisc if you still need it > S55urandom@ you'd probably want to keep it > S70nviboot@ turn off > S70x11-common@ > S71xserver-xorg@ turn off if yu don't need X11 > S75sudo@ turn off > Which scripts can I remove without any damage to the system integrity? 80% of um can all go bi-bi w/o breaking anything as long as you dont need it or convert its purpose into 1 liners > Do you know if there are some other way to speed up the boot process? for faster boots.. - do not boot from floppy or cdrom or usbstick .. ( too slow ) for faster boots... - use / as 32MB - use lilo instead of grub - use smallest kernel ( minimal modules, NOT the kitchen sink ) - don't use network resources ( mount offline-machine:/home /home) - more todos .. removing self checking and sanity checking is dangerous, but if you have the discipline to be nice ot eh machine, self'checking can be a waste of time.. except for the few times you want to spend to check it manually periodically c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie boot question
> michael wrote: >> On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 12:20 -0400, Jim Woodward wrote: >> >>>How do I retrieve the messages that I see when booting? >>>dmesg does not have all the information. >>>I'm using kernel 2.6.13.2 >>>Thanks >> >> >> >> enable /etc/default/bootlogd: >> >> >> $ cat /etc/default/bootlogd >> # Run bootlogd at startup ? >> BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes >> >> > I did the above, rebooted and can't find thelog anywhere. > Could you tell me where it should be and what its name is? look at 'man bootlogd' (hint: 'man -k boot' gives all man pages about 'boot') hint 2: most logs are in /var/log -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pointer for home networking
> michael wrote: > >>I've had a look about but can't find a basic guide to setting up a home >>network. There seems much discussion of 'deeper' stuff but I'm stymied >> for >>setting up my first home Debian/Linux network. >> >>I've a computer that did have Internet connection via ethernet to a modem >>router. It's now connected to Internet by a USB modem. >> >> > If the USB modem still has an ethernet connection, go buy yourself a > router (unless the modem really is a router also, as you imply - you'll > need at least two ethernet jacks on it). Also, you might consider > getting a wireless-capable router, for when you get a laptop. The router > will most likely have 3 or 4 ethernet jacks. Plug the router into the > modem. Clarification: I've no router (the old one is gone). The USB modem is not a router, just a modem. I don't want to fork out dosh for a modem/router. > >>I've a second computer with an ethernet card. >> >>So all I want to do is connect the latter to the former such that both >> can >>access the Internet... >> >> > Plug each machine into the router (disconnect the USB/modem connection). > > So now you have your DSL/Cable/Satellite broadband connection coming > into the house, which is plugged into the modem. The modem is plugged > into the multi-port router. And the PCs are plugged into the router. > Reboot/restart networking on each PC, and you'll probably have instant > access. Yes, I understand that approach, but it's not the route (pun intended) I want to go down. But thanks. M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pointer for home networking
michael wrote: >I've had a look about but can't find a basic guide to setting up a home >network. There seems much discussion of 'deeper' stuff but I'm stymied for >setting up my first home Debian/Linux network. > >I've a computer that did have Internet connection via ethernet to a modem >router. It's now connected to Internet by a USB modem. > > If the USB modem still has an ethernet connection, go buy yourself a router (unless the modem really is a router also, as you imply - you'll need at least two ethernet jacks on it). Also, you might consider getting a wireless-capable router, for when you get a laptop. The router will most likely have 3 or 4 ethernet jacks. Plug the router into the modem. >I've a second computer with an ethernet card. > >So all I want to do is connect the latter to the former such that both can >access the Internet... > > Plug each machine into the router (disconnect the USB/modem connection). So now you have your DSL/Cable/Satellite broadband connection coming into the house, which is plugged into the modem. The modem is plugged into the multi-port router. And the PCs are plugged into the router. Reboot/restart networking on each PC, and you'll probably have instant access. Fire up a web browser on one of the PCs, and point the web browser to whatever address the router's paper works indicates. This will connect you to a web interface (probably) configuration screen for configuring your router. You can tighten up your router (maybe it has a firewall you can turn on, or restrict wireless to discourage drive-by-net-accesses, etc) from within this utility. -- Kent West Technology Support /A/bilene /C/hristian /U/niversity -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: subversion 1.2.3a for sarge?
On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 04:55:28PM +0200, Anders Lennartsson wrote: > Does it break anything essential to build and use the sources for > subversion 1.2.3a, found in sid, for sarge? The build dependencies in > debian/control can be met on a properly maintained sarge box, but > perhaps this may not be the full truth or? > I just tried to build it in a Sarge chroot and here is the result: /tmp/buildd/subversion-1.2.3a/build-tree/subversion-1.2.3/subversion/bindings/java/javahl/native/JNIByteArray.cpp:80: error: invalid conversion from `jbyte*' to `const signed char*' make[1]: *** [subversion/bindings/java/javahl/native/JNIByteArray.lo] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/buildd/subversion-1.2.3a/build-tree/subversion-1.2.3' make: *** [debian/stamp-build] Error 2 pbuilder: Failed autobuilding of package I imagine that if you took the time to track down the error and patch the package, then you could make it work. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto pgpzwjLJFoTyR.pgp Description: PGP signature
[boot optimization] How to speed up the boot?
Hi, my etch works very well, but the startup process takes too long... I can see many useless probing scripts working during the startup. I thought I could remove some autoprobing script from /etc/rc*, but I don't know which. Here's the list: S01glibc.sh@ S02mountvirtfs@ S05bootlogd@ S05initrd-tools.sh@ S05keymap.sh@ S07hdparm@ S10checkroot.sh@ S18ifupdown-clean@ S20module-init-tools@ S20modutils@ S25libdevmapper1.00@ S30checkfs.sh@ S30procps.sh@ S35mountall.sh@ S36discover@ S36lm-sensors@ S36mountvirtfs@ S38pppd-dns@ S39dns-clean@ S39ifupdown@ S40hostname.sh@ S40hotplug@ S40networking@ S41hotplug-net@ S43portmap@ S45mountnfs.sh@ S46setserial@ S48console-screen.sh@ S50hwclock.sh@ S51ntpdate@ S55bootmisc.sh@ S55urandom@ S70nviboot@ S70x11-common@ S71xserver-xorg@ S75sudo@ Which scripts can I remove without any damage to the system integrity? My etch is an old sarge manually configured for my hardware, so I imagine that I can remove something with no risk. Do you know if there are some other way to speed up the boot process? Thank you in advance, belbo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change in Debian policy? WAS: Re: annoying screensaver
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 03:31:33PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 02:43:59PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 07:47:07AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > > > > > Actually, it was pointed more to the way things are getting covered up > > > as dists move towards the black box approach. Not that easier isn't > > > better in many/most cases, but it strikes me that an easy to follow > > > trail back to the root of many black box items could be put into the > > > box itself. E.g. in the "about" part of any help system: "This > > > program modifies the foo files found in bar directory..." > > > > Maybe this should become official Debian policy. > > > I don't think it should. That is why every single Debian package > includes a README.Debian file in /usr/share/doc/. This > should document any deviations between the Debian version and the > upstream version and anything else specific to the Debian package. > Besides, this is much more standard (not every program has a GUI or an > about box), and is already Debian policy. I agree that Debian policy is not the place where this should manifest itself--rather it lies with the programmers who create the app in the first place. Much ignorance about a system could be solved by simple statements built into those programs which involve control/ configuration of various processes. Many of these, I'd wager, _are_ GUI's, for those used to a completely GUI world who know of no editor beyond Word or Notepad (and who would ever consider using Notepad??). Heck... when I started up my first Linux installation, I sat at the command line for half an hour, wondering what to next. My 1st joy--a working printer (common to many, I think). Source developers who include such info would be seen as user-friendly, helpful, etc., etc. My $0.02. Kenward -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: win xp remote boot?
Hi! I need to install some windogs xp (agh!), but in remote boot. (the server will be debian of course). I read the remote boot mini howto, but it is only for 9x, and nt. Anyone did this? Any problem? I use xp as nt? Thanks. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > On Monday 26 September 2005 05:42 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > > > > /lib, /sbin, /bin, /boot and a few other oddities (certianly not /home, > > > > /srv, /usr, /var or /tmp), then you really are better off using ext3 > > > > there for safety. > > > > > > I disagree. Could you tell me why you present this as fact? > > > > Because it has made my life MUCH easier over the five or so big disk > > crashes on small servers without RAID I have been through. Because it made > > my life much easier while trying to switch filesystems, or moving systems > > to RAID1 on-line with minimum downtime. Because of quotas. Because system > > performance seems to be better with some filesystems if I segregate the big > > stuff (/home and others) from the small stuff (/usr, /...). Because I can > > use different filesystems and filesystem mount options according to what is > > in each partition (and I do just that)... and the list goes on. > > I was talking about how you present ext3 as the best option, as opposed to > reiserfs. Ah, ok. I mixed two opinions into one. I'd use ext3 for / because its repair tools have one of the best track record I know of, and it is sane and safe on almost all kernels in production. I might be persuaded to try reiser3 for /, but it would matter little for performance of the box as a whole, and it is very, very unlikely that reiser3 would be safer than ext3 (it might be as safe as, though). -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 17:27:08 -0400 Brendan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday 25 September 2005 03:35 pm, Henrique de Moraes > Holschuh wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > For / , why not use ext3? > > > > Agreed. ext3 is stable, quite fast enough (IF you're > > using kernel 2.6 and enable all optionals) and it is > > extremely *safe*. AND it has the best set of recovery > > tools I know of, should you actually need them. > > > > If you are doing a proper install where / contains not > > much more than /etc, /lib, /sbin, /bin, /boot and a few > > other oddities (certianly not /home, /srv, /usr, /var > > or /tmp), then you really are better off using ext3 there > > for safety. > > I disagree. Could you tell me why you present this as fact? ext3 is a solid, very low-bug system. The on-disk structure is the same as that of ext2. Thus, all ext2 utilities work on it. *Every* rescue disk has ext2 support. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More than 2, but less than 3 GiB per process memory?
Hello, Am Montag, 26. September 2005 20:29 schrieb Hendrik Boom: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 11:34:15AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Malte Cornils wrote: > > > > > Does anyone have a clue why 2 GiB is the limit? > > > > It is not for me. I can malloc() up to 2.9G. > [...] > I've heard that the kernel allocates memory "optimistically". > That is, when it allocates it it only allocates address space. > It commits real storage (whether RAM or swap space) to the allocated > storage only when the storage is actually used. > > Could it be that just mallocing the storage is not enough for it to count > as being "used?" Would you need actually to write something in each page? Indeed, I get up to 3058 M; that on a system with 8 GiB swap and on a system with 512 MB RAM and 1 GiB swap. At least on the latter, this has to be overcommitting since that much virtual memory is definitely not available. From the malloc(3) man page: > By default, Linux follows an optimistic memory allocation strategy. > This means that when malloc() returns non-NULL there is no guarantee > that the memory really is available. This is a really bad bug. In case > it turns out that the system is out of memory, one or more processes > will be killed by the infamous OOM killer. In case Linux is employed > under circumstances where it would be less desirable to suddenly lose > some randomly picked processes, and moreover the kernel version is suf- > ficiently recent, one can switch off this overcommitting behavior using > a command like > # echo 2 > /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory > See also the kernel Documentation directory, files vm/overcommit- > accounting and sysctl/vm.txt. There is a /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory file, but no matter whether I put "2", "1" or "0" in there, the behaviour of your test program does not change here. My 2 GiB limit could be caused by using the brk() system call in the malloc implementation: The brk() system call uses a signed 32bit integer for the size, and this obviously cannot go above 2 Gig. Which might explain why my test program fails when allocating that much memory at once. However, glibc's malloc documentation says that it uses the brk system call for smaller amounts of memory only and mmap for larger amounts. Hmm. Lots of questions, few answers :-) From glibc-2.3.2's source code (malloc/malloc.c, line 129ff): > Maximum allocated size: 4-byte size_t: 2^32 minus about two pages >8-byte size_t: 2^64 minus about two pages > >It is assumed that (possibly signed) size_t values suffice to >represent chunk sizes. `Possibly signed' is due to the fact >that `size_t' may be defined on a system as either a signed or >an unsigned type. The ISO C standard says that it must be >unsigned, but a few systems are known not to adhere to this. >Additionally, even when size_t is unsigned, sbrk (which is by >default used to obtain memory from system) accepts signed >arguments, and may not be able to handle size_t-wide arguments >with negative sign bit. Generally, values that would >appear as negative after accounting for overhead and alignment >are supported only via mmap(), which does not have this >limitation. There is also the question whether the limits (set with the ulimit command) have an influence here, from setrmlimit man page: > RLIMIT_AS > The maximum size of the process's virtual memory (address space) > in bytes. This limit affects calls to brk(2), mmap(2) and > mremap(2), which fail with the error ENOMEM upon exceeding this > limit. Also automatic stack expansion will fail (and generate a > SIGSEGV that kills the process if no alternate stack has been > made available via sigaltstack(2)). Since the value is a long, > on machines with a 32-bit long either this limit is at most 2 > GiB, or this resource is unlimited. However, ulimit -a says the limits important for memory allocation are set to unlimited on my systems. -Malte
Question about samba setup in Sarge
I am attempting to create a samba server on a Sarge box using pure Debian. I am looking at the /etc/samba/smb.conf that was set up by the samba package and have a question about a comment in it, namely # You may wish to use password encryption. Please read ENCRYPTION.txt, # Win95.txt and WinNT.txt in the Samba documentation. Do not enable this I cannot find a file, ENCRYPTION.txt, on my computer or as part of any of the packages that I installed. Where can I obtain a copy of this file? TIA -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Monday 26 September 2005 05:44 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > > On Monday 26 September 2005 11:27 am, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Daniel Garcia wrote: > > > > Why is it interesting to have a different partition > > > > for / and for /home? I have never seen the point in a > > > > > > So that your / is as static as possible. And decoupled from about as > > > much as possible. The first time you have problems with memory or > > > disks, you will understand. > > > > Who cares about / if your personal data is trashed in /home? > > I, for one. /home is on backup. So is /, but it gets far easier to > restore if / is still good. That's JUST you. I backup / as well, so... I guess what I want you to notice is that your statements of fact are very subjective and have not much to do with giving sound advice...just anecdotes... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Monday 26 September 2005 05:42 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > > > /lib, /sbin, /bin, /boot and a few other oddities (certianly not /home, > > > /srv, /usr, /var or /tmp), then you really are better off using ext3 > > > there for safety. > > > > I disagree. Could you tell me why you present this as fact? > > Because it has made my life MUCH easier over the five or so big disk > crashes on small servers without RAID I have been through. Because it made > my life much easier while trying to switch filesystems, or moving systems > to RAID1 on-line with minimum downtime. Because of quotas. Because system > performance seems to be better with some filesystems if I segregate the big > stuff (/home and others) from the small stuff (/usr, /...). Because I can > use different filesystems and filesystem mount options according to what is > in each partition (and I do just that)... and the list goes on. I was talking about how you present ext3 as the best option, as opposed to reiserfs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pointer for home networking
I've had a look about but can't find a basic guide to setting up a home network. There seems much discussion of 'deeper' stuff but I'm stymied for setting up my first home Debian/Linux network. I've a computer that did have Internet connection via ethernet to a modem router. It's now connected to Internet by a USB modem. I've a second computer with an ethernet card. So all I want to do is connect the latter to the former such that both can access the Internet... All pointers to (simple) (online) (Debian specific) references most welcome! Thanks, Michael -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Ron Johnson wrote: > I don't have a link, but I do know that Reiser can pack > multiple small files into 1 block (tail packing). Thus, if I have been told that reiser3 tailpacking is extremely hideous for performance. That must be kept in mind as well. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie boot question
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 03:52:27PM -0400, Jim wrote: > I did the above, rebooted and can't find thelog anywhere. > Could you tell me where it should be and what its name is? > Thanks > Try /var/log/boot. I sometimes use "ls -ltr /var/log" to look for the most recently modified log files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > On Monday 26 September 2005 11:27 am, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Daniel Garcia wrote: > > > Why is it interesting to have a different partition > > > for / and for /home? I have never seen the point in a > > > > So that your / is as static as possible. And decoupled from about as much > > as possible. The first time you have problems with memory or disks, you > > will understand. > > Who cares about / if your personal data is trashed in /home? I, for one. /home is on backup. So is /, but it gets far easier to restore if / is still good. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Brendan wrote: > > /lib, /sbin, /bin, /boot and a few other oddities (certianly not /home, > > /srv, /usr, /var or /tmp), then you really are better off using ext3 there > > for safety. > > I disagree. Could you tell me why you present this as fact? Because it has made my life MUCH easier over the five or so big disk crashes on small servers without RAID I have been through. Because it made my life much easier while trying to switch filesystems, or moving systems to RAID1 on-line with minimum downtime. Because of quotas. Because system performance seems to be better with some filesystems if I segregate the big stuff (/home and others) from the small stuff (/usr, /...). Because I can use different filesystems and filesystem mount options according to what is in each partition (and I do just that)... and the list goes on. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Someone is breaking etch (testing)?
On Monday 26 September 2005 01:40 pm, Marc Wilson wrote:
> When did disagreeing with the clueless majority automatically make someone
> a troll?
>
> From Jargon File (4.3.1, 29 Jun 2001) [jargon]:
>
> troll 1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a
> posting on {Usenet} designed to attract predictable responses or
> {flame}s; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for
> {newbie}s" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of
> fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a
> bite.
>
> Sorry, my posts don't qualify. You may disagree with my position on any
> number of topics, but don't *ever* insinuate I don't actually belive as I
> say.
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Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Monday 26 September 2005 11:27 am, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Daniel Garcia wrote: > > Why is it interesting to have a different partition > > for / and for /home? I have never seen the point in a > > So that your / is as static as possible. And decoupled from about as much > as possible. The first time you have problems with memory or disks, you > will understand. Who cares about / if your personal data is trashed in /home? You can reinstall the system in an hour...separating /home is more about keeping your data when you upgrade, switch disks, etc... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Sunday 25 September 2005 03:35 pm, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Ron Johnson wrote: > > For / , why not use ext3? > > Agreed. ext3 is stable, quite fast enough (IF you're using kernel 2.6 and > enable all optionals) and it is extremely *safe*. AND it has the best set > of recovery tools I know of, should you actually need them. > > If you are doing a proper install where / contains not much more than /etc, > /lib, /sbin, /bin, /boot and a few other oddities (certianly not /home, > /srv, /usr, /var or /tmp), then you really are better off using ext3 there > for safety. I disagree. Could you tell me why you present this as fact? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: apache-ssl and php4
On 2005-09-26, Tim Jordan penned: > I have a server configured with apache and php4 working great. I > just added the apache-ssl package and I created my own certificate. > My problem is now when I try to access a .php page over SSL I get a > prompt to download the file instead of it opening in my browser. > > Could someone please advise on what I'm missing? > > Thanks so much, > > Tim > home:/etc/apache-ssl# grep php httpd.conf # distribution - see http://www.php.net) will typically use: #AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3 #AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps home:/etc/apache-ssl# grep php modules.conf LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so -- monique Ask smart questions, get good answers: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: More than 2, but less than 3 GiB per process memory?
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:34:21 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > Malte Cornils wrote: > > > PS: Please Cc: me if possible > > > > If you send question to the list, you should expect the > > answer to only go to the list. > > Unless specifically requested by the poster. > Please see the Debian mailing list policy: > > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > "When replying to messages on the mailing list, do not > send a carbon copy (CC) to the original poster unless they > explicitly request to be copied." > > Because there was a specific request by the original poster > Malte Cornils for a direct CC it would be polite to do so. I did. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 13:55:49 -0300 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005, Malcolm Lalkaka wrote: > > ReiserFS is faster than ext3 ONLY for files under 4kB. In > > such a case, you can expect to experience faster speeds > > than ext3 by a factor of 10 > > Come to think of it, where did you get these numbers from? I don't have a link, but I do know that Reiser can pack multiple small files into 1 block (tail packing). Thus, if you have a directory with 10,000 *small* files, they may only take 500 or 1,000 blocks, instead of 10,000 blocks. Thus, minimized disk reads, and faster processing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ReiseFS vs XFS
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 08:11:24 -0700 (PDT) Daniel Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is it interesting to have a different partition > for / and for /home? I have never seen the point in a > home > computer. Isnt it more painful to have to calculate > the size for each partition Why should it be? Give an adequate amount of space for / (6GB is more than enough), a little bit for /boot, and the rest to /home. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recover data from a hd
On Sat, Sep 24, 2005 at 01:18:49PM -0700, David E. Fox wrote: > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 00:53:56 +0800 > csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > last ages. I've never had the chance to test this theory though, > > since I upgrade to a higher-capacity drive in as little as two > > years. > > I'm still using a 1.6 gig drive (although sparingly) as hda - got it > back in 1996. I can get around the one or two bad spots on it ok > enough. I have one 345 megger here that I got in 1993 - probably will > still work although I haven't plugged it in for some years now :). Are those made by maxtor too? > my other drive is a 30 gig deathstar - must not be of thailand > manufacture, since it's been humming right along for the last five > years. > > > -- > > David E. Fox Thanks for letting me > [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. > --- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ Was denken Sie über E-Mail? Wir hören auf Ihre Meinung: http://surveylink.yahoo.com/wix/p0379378.aspx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie boot question
michael wrote: On Mon, 2005-09-26 at 12:20 -0400, Jim Woodward wrote: How do I retrieve the messages that I see when booting? dmesg does not have all the information. I'm using kernel 2.6.13.2 Thanks enable /etc/default/bootlogd: $ cat /etc/default/bootlogd # Run bootlogd at startup ? BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes I did the above, rebooted and can't find thelog anywhere. Could you tell me where it should be and what its name is? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim4-light vs exim4-heavy
On Sunday, 25.09.2005 at 15:34 -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: > > Well, yes: but that applies regardless of whether you've launching > > it from procmail or not :-) > > Well, not exactly. I don't know enough about Exim to know if it can > operate this way, but if you do your AV/content filtering during the > SMTP transaction, you can reject with a 550 at the end of data. That > is a lot better than silently discarding messages after accepting > them. Yes, that keeps the TCP connection open a long time, but for a > small to medium sized system, that should not be a big issue. > > The real savings is in rejecting before data based on a variety of > measures, terminating the connection much sooner and saving a lot of > bandwidth. If you do enough of that, you can cut down the number of > messages that you allow to go into data, and thus require AV/content > filtering, to the point that it is much less of a load on the system. This is all true, of course, but has drifted a *long* way from what the OP was asking. I was merely pointing out that you *can* filter post-MTA acceptance ... Dave. -- Please don't CC me on list messages! ... Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: change window manager in Gnome
Lorenzo Bettini on 26/09/05 11:04, wrote: Dmitri Minaev wrote: Hi, 1. Launch a terminal. 2. Launch Desktop Preferences->Advanced->Sessions 3. At Current Session tab, mark 'metacity', click Remove, click Apply. The window manager must shut down. 4. Switch to the terminal window, type 'enlightenment &' 5. Close the session manager and the terminal 6. Click Actions->Log out, mark Save Current Setup and click OK. 7. When you log on again, Enlightenment should start. There's no such menu entry... however I did that with gnome-session-remove and the proceeded as you say and it seems to have worked! :-) Hi Lorenzo, for curiosity's sake, how are you using enlightenment? I set it up and used it for a while, but I eventually switched back to metacity, even though metacity's more clunky. I found that switching between windows with the keyboard was too inefficient, since enlightenment doesn't have a window-switching-dialog when you hold down the ALT-Tab key. It's OK with a small number of windows, but I usually have up to 10 open (browsers mostly). How do you find that? Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change in Debian policy? WAS: Re: annoying screensaver
On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 02:43:59PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Sep 26, 2005 at 07:47:07AM -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > > > Actually, it was pointed more to the way things are getting covered up > > as dists move towards the black box approach. Not that easier isn't > > better in many/most cases, but it strikes me that an easy to follow > > trail back to the root of many black box items could be put into the > > box itself. E.g. in the "about" part of any help system: "This > > program modifies the foo files found in bar directory..." > > Maybe this should become official Debian policy. > I don't think it should. That is why every single Debian package includes a README.Debian file in /usr/share/doc/. This should document any deviations between the Debian version and the upstream version and anything else specific to the Debian package. Besides, this is much more standard (not every program has a GUI or an about box), and is already Debian policy. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto pgpFgInNlIbm0.pgp Description: PGP signature
