Re: [backports & security]

[Felix C. Stegerman]

* Robert Van Horn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-01 08:41]:
> >   * Are you using unofficial repositories (e.g. backports.org) on
> > production servers ?
> >   * Do you (and can I) trust backports.org ?
> >   * Also, since even backports.org does not seem to have vim 7.0 and
> > kernel 2.6.16 (yet), what would be the best way/place to get these
> > from ?  Should I (try to) backport them myself ?
> 
> Hi, I use unstable on 6 production servers with very little problem.
> I compile my own kernels and use mysql out of the box from
> http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/ 
> I'm using gvim 6.4.1 so don't know about 7.0.
> Also I find it nicer to compile apache outside of debian -
> easier for me to keep track of multiple http servers in
> /usr/local/ than wherever debian puts them. If there is a
> mess up on an upgrade it can be a big pain to fix.

I've thought about using unstable (see an earlier thread I started),
and decided to go with stable instead.  But it's nice to know that
unstable can be used with very little problem.

Next time, please reply on-list, and don't top-post.


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Re: [backports & security]

[Felix C. Stegerman]

* Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-06-01 08:10]:
> >   * Also, since even backports.org does not seem to have vim 7.0 and
> > kernel 2.6.16 (yet), what would be the best way/place to get these
> > from ?  Should I (try to) backport them myself ?
> 
> It is said that compiling your own kernel with make-kpkg should be
> pretty easy. It generates a kernel package which you can than
> install with "dpkg -i". Never tried it myself though ... Compiling
> smaller software is generally just a matter of running "make" "make
> install". YMMV

I know ;-)  I've used make-kpkg a lot.  I'm not sure whether it's easy
to install one of the newer kernels (even a self-compiled one) on
sarge though, since it may depend on newer versions of e.g. yaird.

Thanks anyway.


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Re: Debian Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Marc Shapiro]

Mihira Fernando wrote:


Robert J. A. Fernandes. wrote:


Hi Mihira,

Thank you very much for your email.

But my problem is when I download the DVD ISO Files it showing me only
372 MB for 1st ISO and 2nd ISO it's showing me 127MB is this right size.
That's what I want to confirm with you.


the site provides Checksums for all the ISOs it hass. Please use those 
check sums against the checksums of the files you have downloaded.

IF the checksums are the same then you can use the downloaded file.
However, since you say your file is  mere 372 MB when it should be 4.4 
GIGs, I highly doubt that you have the full iso.




IS that the same size of the both ISO files what I have downloaded, even
I tried 2-3 times again & again it's the same size & I think no problem
in my internet downloads, its even fast download.


what is the speed of your net connection ? What is your Download agent 
? if its Internet Explorer then I'm pretty sure you have a corrupt 
download file. Use a download manager and download the ISO files again.




I think I should burn these ISO files on DVD's then I should try &
install right?



withiut verifying the checksums, do NOT burn the ISOs as you're likely 
to waste good DVDs over them.


Verify the downloads first.

Ace.

PS. please dont reply to me personally. send replies to the mail list.

Do you REALLY want everyone on Debian User to send you a confirmation 
e-mail?  It seems like every day I get several requests for confirmation 
from this list.  Frequently from more than one person, and frequently 
multiple request from each.  If you feel the need to receive receipt 
confirmations from your regular correspondence at least turn it off when 
sending to a list.  Please.


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Re: [backports & security]

[Andrei Popescu]

"Felix C. Stegerman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   * Also, since even backports.org does not seem to have vim 7.0 and
> kernel 2.6.16 (yet), what would be the best way/place to get these
> from ?  Should I (try to) backport them myself ?

It is said that compiling your own kernel with make-kpkg should be
pretty easy. It generates a kernel package which you can than
install with "dpkg -i". Never tried it myself though ... Compiling
smaller software is generally just a matter of running "make" "make
install". YMMV

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Re: Debian Sarge Installation problem, ISO image is mounted from NTFS

[Andrei Popescu]

chandavarapu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Primary problem is, I don't want to make 14 CDs. So I put all 14 ISO images
> on NTFS partition.

You have very good suggestions in the other post. I just want to point
out that you don't need all 14 CDs. The first 2 will do in most cases,
and you can download the rest directly with apt-get. Even if you have no
'net connection at all, you can still find out what CD that special
package is on, and download only that one, or just the package.

Welcome aboard
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[backports & security]

[Felix C. Stegerman]

Hi,

I'm about to install sarge on a (production) server of my own, and
would rather like to have the latest versions of:
  * mysql (5.0)
  * vim (7.0)
  * the Linux kernel (2.6.16) [ppc]

Since these are not in sarge, I'm considering using backported
versions from backports.org.  I was however unable to find much
information on the effect on security of using backports.org.  Since
this server will expose several services to the internet (apache,
subversion, mysql), I want to make sure that it is, and stays, secure.

So these are my questions:
  * Are you using unofficial repositories (e.g. backports.org) on
production servers ?
  * Do you (and can I) trust backports.org ?
  * Also, since even backports.org does not seem to have vim 7.0 and
kernel 2.6.16 (yet), what would be the best way/place to get these
from ?  Should I (try to) backport them myself ?

Other suggestions & remarks are welcome.

Thanks.


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Re: is it a bad idea to use unstable on a server ?

[Felix C. Stegerman]

* Olafur Jens Sigurdsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-27 00:43]:
> >   * Is it a bad idea to use unstable on a production server when it
> > comes to security?
> 
> Yes, see the reasoning of why stable has a security section.
> 
> >   * If so, would you recommend using testing, or stable?
> 
> Stable and run update on the security regularly.
> 
> >   * And does anyone with experience running unstable on production
> > servers know of any other caveats I should be aware of?
> 
> Sorry, dont run servers but this is just my knowledge of debian/server
> world after years of using linux and being subscribed to this list and
> hanging out on technology savy irc channels :-)
> 
> Information does go through with osmosis sometimes :-)

I figured as much.  I just wanted to check whether I was paranoid
enough, or too paranoid ;-)


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Re: is it a bad idea to use unstable on a server ?

[Felix C. Stegerman]

* Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-27 01:07]:
> > So it comes down to:
> >   * Is it a bad idea to use unstable on a production server when it
> > comes to security?
> 
> Possibly to probably yes (the answer for stable would be "no").
> 
> >   * If so, would you recommend using testing, or stable?
> 
> Stable.
> 
> >   * And does anyone with experience running unstable on production
> > servers know of any other caveats I should be aware of?
> 
> Don't do it unless you want to babysit it constantly and do a lot of
> reading in your free time to keep track of development and latest
> bugs a lot more carefully than you otherwise would.

I figured as much.  I just wanted to check whether I was paranoid
enough, or too paranoid ;-)


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Re: is it a bad idea to use unstable on a server ?

[Felix C. Stegerman]

* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-27 01:09]:
> > * Is it a bad idea to use unstable on a production server when it
> >   comes to security?
> > * If so, would you recommend using testing, or stable?
> > * And does anyone with experience running unstable on production
> >   servers know of any other caveats I should be aware of?
> 
> If you want a stable "Debian", but need something more up-to-date,
> Ubuntu 2005.10 might be what you want.

I definitely prefer to stick with Debian so I'll go with sarge.
Thanks anyway.


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Re: Change screen resolution

[lmyho]

--- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 06:41:21PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > 
> > --- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> > > resolution is
> > > > so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have 
> > > > set
> during
> > > the
> > > > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible 
> > > > and so
> > > > uncomfortable!:((
> > > > 
> > > > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high 
> > > > resolution
> > > before
> > > > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> > > resolution!
> > > > I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to 
> > > > change
> the
> > > > resoluion!
> > > > 
> > > > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low
> resolution
> > > > just kills me.:((
> > > 
> > > sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
> > > 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
> > > Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > Chris,
> > The last reply was wrong, I got the result now, 6 lines of output, all are:
> > Modes   "800x600" "640x480"
> > 
> > 800x600 is too low on the 19" screen!:(
> > 
> > How to reset?
> 
> What you want to do here is either the easy way:
> 
> 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and accept the defaults, for
> everything except monitor, where you select the correct values (check
> your monitor book or the web for refresh rates) and select the
> appropriate resolutions; and video card, where you select your video
> card or 'vesa'--but not 'vga'
> 
> or the hard way:
> 
> edit the file, and add the resolution you want in front of the other
> resolutions (eg: "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480") and made sure that the
> driver for the video card is _not_ set to"vga" -- if it is, change it
> to "vesa"

Chris,
Thank you!  I finally got the resolution I want!:) Not clear for bunch of 
questions
in the configure, but anyway, I got what I need now -- much relax now. It was 
really
drive me crazy!

Thanks again. :))


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Recommended upgrade kernels for Etch?

[David E. Fox]

I'm ATM on

m206-157:~# uname -a
Linux m206-157 2.6.12-1-k7 #1 Tue Sep 27 13:22:07 JST 2005 i686
GNU/Linux


I've run across something that *might* require 2.6.13 or higher. The
question is- - what would fellow users recommend? My hardware is an
Athlon T-bird 1000 mhz system.


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Re: Change screen resolution

[Christopher Nelson]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 06:41:21PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> 
> --- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > > 
> > > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> > resolution is
> > > so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
> > > during
> > the
> > > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and 
> > > so
> > > uncomfortable!:((
> > > 
> > > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high 
> > > resolution
> > before
> > > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> > resolution!
> > > I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to 
> > > change the
> > > resoluion!
> > > 
> > > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low 
> > > resolution
> > > just kills me.:((
> > 
> > sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
> > 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
> > Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?
> > 
> > -- 
> Chris,
> The last reply was wrong, I got the result now, 6 lines of output, all are:
> Modes   "800x600" "640x480"
> 
> 800x600 is too low on the 19" screen!:(
> 
> How to reset?

What you want to do here is either the easy way:

'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' and accept the defaults, for
everything except monitor, where you select the correct values (check
your monitor book or the web for refresh rates) and select the
appropriate resolutions; and video card, where you select your video
card or 'vesa'--but not 'vga'

or the hard way:

edit the file, and add the resolution you want in front of the other
resolutions (eg: "1280x1024" "800x600" "640x480") and made sure that the
driver for the video card is _not_ set to"vga" -- if it is, change it
to "vesa"

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Re: Change screen resolution

[lmyho]

--- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > 
> > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> resolution is
> > so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
> > during
> the
> > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and so
> > uncomfortable!:((
> > 
> > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high resolution
> before
> > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> resolution!
> > I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to 
> > change the
> > resoluion!
> > 
> > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low 
> > resolution
> > just kills me.:((
> 
> sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
> 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
> Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?
> 
> -- 
Chris,
The last reply was wrong, I got the result now, 6 lines of output, all are:
Modes   "800x600" "640x480"

800x600 is too low on the 19" screen!:(

How to reset?


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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Pascal Hakim wrote:
> 
> Australian governor-generals are chosen by the prime minister...
> (including John Kerr), and can be dismissed by the prime minister. Yes,
> we technically have a race condition at the top of our government.
> 
> (But finally! An off-topic debian-user politics thread on *Australia*)
> 

That is hilarious.  I have never heard of a political situation
described as a race condition.  So, what is the political equivalent of
a stack smash or a buffer overflow?

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Re: Change screen resolution

[lmyho]

--- Christopher Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> > 
> > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> resolution is
> > so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
> > during
> the
> > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and so
> > uncomfortable!:((
> > 
> > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high resolution
> before
> > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> resolution!
> > I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to 
> > change the
> > resoluion!
> > 
> > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low 
> > resolution
> > just kills me.:((
> 
> sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
> 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
> Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?
> 
It's sarge, the newest release, net install.  But there is no xorg,conf or
XF86Config[-4] file!  what happen?:((

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Re: security support for testing distribution

[Black Dew]

Does that mean that security updates go from unstable to testing security 
repository to testing distribution or am I misreading something here?


No.

If a (critical) vulnerability is discovered in some package which is 
already in testing or stable the security team patches it and uploads a 
fix into the security archive for the appropriate release. (for the 
users to fix the problem immediately)


Then they notify the author and he applies the fix in unstable, which 
then migrates on to testing and stable as usual.



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Re: Change screen resolution

[lmyho]

--- Roby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> lmyho wrote:
> 
> > All,
> > 
> > I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> > resolution is so poorly set, which is actually different from the
> > resolution I have set during the
> > initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and
> > so uncomfortable!:((
> > 
> > The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high
> > resolution before
> > install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> > resolution! I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find
> > place to change the resoluion!
> > 
> > Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low
> > resolution just kills me.:((
> > 
> > All helps are highly appreciated.  Thanks!
> > 
> > Leo
>

> > 
> >From the K Menu, select Control Center -> Peripherals -> Display.

I have checked this, but the highest I can choose from there is what I have 
right
now, too low to bear.:((  
So, seems like the system has set the resolution as so low, but why??  and how 
can I
re-set it??  Do I have to reinstall -- hope not!!

> 
> Check the Apply settings on KDE startup box as well.
 
Where is KDE startup box?  I didn't find it.:(

Please help again.  Thank you!


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Re: Change screen resolution

[Roby]

lmyho wrote:

> All,
> 
> I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen
> resolution is so poorly set, which is actually different from the
> resolution I have set during the
> initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and
> so uncomfortable!:((
> 
> The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high
> resolution before
> install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown
> resolution! I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find
> place to change the resoluion!
> 
> Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low
> resolution just kills me.:((
> 
> All helps are highly appreciated.  Thanks!
> 
> Leo
> 
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>From the K Menu, select Control Center -> Peripherals -> Display.

Check the Apply settings on KDE startup box as well.


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Re: Change screen resolution

[Christopher Nelson]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 05:30:30PM -0700, lmyho wrote:
> 
> I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen 
> resolution is
> so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
> during the
> initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and so
> uncomfortable!:((
> 
> The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high resolution 
> before
> install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown 
> resolution!
> I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to change 
> the
> resoluion!
> 
> Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low 
> resolution
> just kills me.:((

sarge or etch/sid?  at any rate what does the output of 
'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Modes' (sub XF86Config[-4] for sarge) say?  
Any of those lines have the resolution you want?  If so, do they all?

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Re: Is it OK to remove alsa-base after Kernel 2.6.8?

[Dominique Brazziel]

I have alsa as module in the kernel and selected
Crystal Logic CS46XX as the driver in the .config.  I
think it is OK, I purged 
alsa-base and alsa-utils but was able to play
streaming audio.  

I had read that Alsa was included in the 2.6.8 kernel
so 
I think this is OK to do.

Thanks. 


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Re: question

[Christopher Nelson]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 10:11:56PM +0200, Matus C wrote:
> Hi,
> / when I am starting my pc I have always options between booting up 
> windows and kernel 2.6.7... , so I am sure it is kernel /

That's just the kernel used in the system.  The OS is still called
'Debian'
 
> >Could you type exactly what you see on the screen ?
> >Is it a white on black:
> 
> So, the screen is black and white.It looks like a MS-DOS 
> 
> >  Debian GNU/Linux 3.1  tty 1
> 
> Yes, I checked it, there is exactly written Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 coma tty 1 

Standard console login screen.  nothing to worry about.

> / coma is root /

I'm not sure what you mean by this?  'coma' is the name of your box.

> There is also written coma login :
> I typed there matus / what is actaully ordinary user / and it asked me 
> for a password. After checkig password it waits, the coursor blinks.

Logged in.  Good.

> I typed there "dpkg --help" and I found that statement "dselect".

My personal favorite tool.  I'm sure others will tell you differently ;)

> Then it showed me summary: firstly it was a group of packages I have 
> already installed and then it was a group of packages i havent installed 
> yet.

That's normal -- don't try to install all the packages though, many
conflict with each other.

> Then i tried to install packages , but it didnt work because it was needed 
> that I was a root / I dont know hot to login as a root /. 

after 'login: ' you type 'root' and after 'password: ' you type whatever
password you've assigned root.  You did that in the beginning, when you
installed.  If you don't remember what you set, there are ways to reset
it using your debian install CD w/out re-installing.

> Is this right 
> way to complete installation of debian ?

It's how I did it.  After you get the packages you want, I would suggest
installing 'sudo' and reading the docs in /usr/share/doc/sudo/ (eg.
'less /usr/share/doc/sudo/README.Debian'

> >Or is it a more graphical login screen ?
> 
> >Would you want to have a grafical screen ?
>  
> I want to have more graphical screen... I was surfing on intenet and I
> saw that it should look like windows...I mean... it should have nice
> wallpaper on the background and control panel etc.is it possible on
> Debian ?

Yes.  Once you log in as root and enter 'dselect' -- find and install
'x-window-system' and an WM ('gnome' or 'kde' are popular).

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Change screen resolution

[lmyho]

All,

I just installed debian on an older computer yesterday, but the screen 
resolution is
so poorly set, which is actually different from the resolution I have set 
during the
initial system configuration (much lower).  It looks really terrible and so
uncomfortable!:((

The screen can be set to much higher resolution (it was in a high resolution 
before
install debian).  But I can't find from where I can re-set the X windown 
resolution!
I have both gnome and kde installed, but no where I can find place to change the
resoluion!

Please anyone could tell me how can I change it?  the current too low resolution
just kills me.:((

All helps are highly appreciated.  Thanks!

Leo

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Re: how to detect if a jpeg file is progressive or not

[H.S.]

Olafur Jens Sigurdsson wrote:

> Imagemagick does the trick for you.
> 
> To see if your files are interlaced or not you can use identify
> -verbose filename.jpg and search for the Interlace line and if it says
> None then it isnt a progressive jpeg and if it says Plane it is.

That was really great help. Thank a ton. The problem of identifying an
image as progressive or not is solved.

> 
> To convert from basic to progressive use convert infile.jpg -interlace
> Plane outfile.jpg

The problem left is to convert all my current jpegs into progressive
ones. jpegtran did the job (the following is one long command):
$> for f in *.jpg; do echo "$f"; mv "$f" tmp.jpg; jpegtran  -progressive
tmp.jpg  > "$f"; rm -f tmp.jpg; done

(I am sure there is a way to use the stdout and stdin in this procedure
instead of tmp.jpg, but I didn't check)

regards,
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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Pascal Hakim]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 03:31:49PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > The Queen may be "Head of state" but the person with power here is the
> > Prime Minister...  The Queen is just a figurehead...
> 
> Australian constitutional crisis of 1975.  Unelected Governor-
> General Sir John Kerr forced the elected PM out of office.

Australian governor-generals are chosen by the prime minister...
(including John Kerr), and can be dismissed by the prime minister. Yes,
we technically have a race condition at the top of our government.

(But finally! An off-topic debian-user politics thread on *Australia*)

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Re: Debina Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Christopher Nelson]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:37:48AM +0300, Robert J. A. Fernandes. wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> 
> I have downloaded DVD ISO Images files from this below location: -
> 
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-dvd/
> 
> in this section the file size its shows 4.4G for
> debian-31r2-i386-binary-1, but when I am downloading it give me 372MB
> and for the another file debian-31r2-i386-binary-2 it shows 4.1G but
> when I downloads it gives me 127MB.
> 
> So is this file ok or has to be correct 4 GB? I have doubt just because
> of this sizes.

You are correct in your doubts--it seems that the files did not download
completely.  Are you using a FAT partition (DOS or earlier Windows)?  I
don't think they can handle files that size.  Or maybe it's the program
you used to download the images.  At any rate--these .iso's are broken
and won't work right (at all, likely).  

> And is it according to above MB's then even I can burn on
> normal 700MB CD's right? So what's the meaning of DVD ISO Files? I
> didn't get?

You are also correct in that.  To use a DVD image, you need blank DVD
and a DVD burner (I don't think + or - matters).  If you just have
regular CD's try the CD images.  If you have a fast net connection, I
would grab the one labelled 'netinst' and do a network install.  Or the
'businesscard' one if you have a spiffy mini-CD ;)

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Re: debian testing xorg fails on /dev/input/mice

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 15:21:39 +0200, Jon Jahren wrote:
> Hi all
> I've just installed debian etch on my main computer, but I get an error
> when trying to start X, it tells me:
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> No such file or directory
> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
>  No core pointer
> 
> And then goes on to give me a fatal error, and X doesn't start.
> 
> What package would provide this driver for me? I have
> xserver-xorg-input-mouse and I also found this link:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/12/msg00552.html
> But no solution. 
> Any help greatly appreciated, thanks

It looks more like a problem with the device itself. What kind of mouse
is it, serial (rather big, elongated connector), PS2 (round connector)
or USB (compact, flat connector)? Depending on that you might have
to load a kernel module to have the device created. (This should happen
automatically, but you never know...)

In any case, the first thing to check is if /dev/input/mice really
exists. "ls -l /dev/input" will tell you which devices are there. The
device might be called something like "/dev/input/mouse0", or it might
even be in the /dev directory directly as "/dev/psaux". You can test
likely candidates by reading their output directly. For example, to test
/dev/psaux you would run (as root):

cat /dev/psaux | hd

If you move the mouse you should see output scroll by for the correct
device. (Pressing CRTL + C stops this test.)

If you find a device which reacts to mouse movements you can run
"dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (as Tom has already suggested) and
select this device in the mouse dialog. If this does not work or if you
get stuck somewhere else, then tell us what you observe when you try
what I outlined above and also post the output of the following command:

awk '/Section "InputDevice"/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf 

(This will print the part of the Xorg configuration file which specifies
 the input devices.)

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Re: Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Ron Johnson]

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Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 May 2006 16:11, Steve Lamb wrote:
>> Hal Vaughan wrote:
>>> I understand someone has written up a config file (forgot what the
>>> special setting files are called) for screen writing formatting on
>>> emacs, but, as I said, when I'm writing, I'm in a different mode,
>>> and I just can't remember all the keystroke commands.  It's hard to
>>> explain, but I can use vi or other console editors and have no
>>> issue while programming, but once I switch gears and start writing
>>> fiction, my brain works completely differently.  It must be a left
>>> brain/right brain thing.
>> Ok, maybe I'm way off base here but why not take a different
>> tact.  Why not come up with a text based shorthand you can use (kinda
>> like Wiki-style), throw something together in Python/Perl/Ruby to
>> parse it out and reformat for later importation into OOo?  That way
>> you can skip the GUI completely and also don't need to remember
>> keystrokes, only your formatting shorthand.
>>
>> Of course, this is just really a pared down idea of what $EDITOR
>> + LaTeX would offer but it is what I would do as I do prefer text
>> editing of all types in vim, know Python/Perl and don't know LaTeX. 
>> :)
> 
> That's a good idea and I've been considering it.  The issue is one of 
> habit.  I haven't used Abiword in a while, but I know the main 
> controls, like CTRL-S for save, cut, copy, and paste, will all be the 
> same.  Ideally I want the keystrokes on the Amity to be as close to 
> possible as they are on the other system.
> 
> I won't know until I get it all setup, but I may end up doing something 
> close to this, like using GEdit, and just using a shorthand for some 
> indents, like ^1 for the wide margins, which, back when I used Word 
> Perfect, was CTRL-1 for the macro.
> 
> I've also considered something like that for emacs to handle formatting 
> issues before a script is printed and just forcing myself to get used 
> to it -- but while I'm doing that, the first script or two would be 
> hell.  
> 
> I have one advantage: I'm not selling these scripts.  They're for the 
> production company I'll be starting soon.  That means *I* get to define 
> the format in my own, stubborn, selfish, pig-headed style. :-)

You could always reformat the text once you move the files back to
your desktop machine.

Embed little markup codes in the text and write a little parser in
Python to create the correct formatting.

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Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Hal Vaughan]

On Wednesday 31 May 2006 16:11, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > I understand someone has written up a config file (forgot what the
> > special setting files are called) for screen writing formatting on
> > emacs, but, as I said, when I'm writing, I'm in a different mode,
> > and I just can't remember all the keystroke commands.  It's hard to
> > explain, but I can use vi or other console editors and have no
> > issue while programming, but once I switch gears and start writing
> > fiction, my brain works completely differently.  It must be a left
> > brain/right brain thing.
>
> Ok, maybe I'm way off base here but why not take a different
> tact.  Why not come up with a text based shorthand you can use (kinda
> like Wiki-style), throw something together in Python/Perl/Ruby to
> parse it out and reformat for later importation into OOo?  That way
> you can skip the GUI completely and also don't need to remember
> keystrokes, only your formatting shorthand.
>
> Of course, this is just really a pared down idea of what $EDITOR
> + LaTeX would offer but it is what I would do as I do prefer text
> editing of all types in vim, know Python/Perl and don't know LaTeX. 
> :)

That's a good idea and I've been considering it.  The issue is one of 
habit.  I haven't used Abiword in a while, but I know the main 
controls, like CTRL-S for save, cut, copy, and paste, will all be the 
same.  Ideally I want the keystrokes on the Amity to be as close to 
possible as they are on the other system.

I won't know until I get it all setup, but I may end up doing something 
close to this, like using GEdit, and just using a shorthand for some 
indents, like ^1 for the wide margins, which, back when I used Word 
Perfect, was CTRL-1 for the macro.

I've also considered something like that for emacs to handle formatting 
issues before a script is printed and just forcing myself to get used 
to it -- but while I'm doing that, the first script or two would be 
hell.  

I have one advantage: I'm not selling these scripts.  They're for the 
production company I'll be starting soon.  That means *I* get to define 
the format in my own, stubborn, selfish, pig-headed style. :-)

Hal


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Re: Problem updating doodled

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 23:58:34 +1000, Michael Lightfoot wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 May 2006 08:36, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> 
> > I would first try to find out why the pre-removal script cannot stop the
> > daemon. Is the daemon running at all? You can check it with
> >
> > ps -ef | grep [d]oodled
> >
> > If the daemon is not running you can try the start/stop actions yourself
> > (as root):
> >
> > invoke-rc.d doodled start
> > invoke-rc.d doodled stop
> >
> Start works, stop fails.
> 
> > Maybe that will give you an error message which indicates what is wrong.
> > If there is no error you can start the daemon again and see if that is
> > enough to satisfy the pre-removal script.
> >
> > If all else fails you can try to force the removal of the package:
> >
> > dpkg -r --force-all doodled
> >
> This doesn't work - it still complains that the stop of the daemon fails.
> 
> I then simply tried commenting out the guts of the stop function 
> in /etc/init.d/doodled and running the upgrade, which worked.
> 
> invoke-rc.d doodled stop still fails.  Here is the function 
> from /etc/init.d/doodled:
> 
> DAEMON=/usr/bin/doodled
> NAME=doodled
> DESC="doodle daemon"
> 
>   stop)
>   echo -n "Stopping $DESC: "
>   start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/$NAME.pid \
>   --exec $DAEMON
>   echo "$NAME."
>   ;;

Then it might be time to submit a bug report against the package. To
help the package maintainer, I would first check the following things:

1) Does the "start" action really start a daemon process? ("pgrep
   doodled" should return the process ID of the daemon.)

2) Is the PID file /var/run/doodled.pid created and does it contain the
   correct process ID? ("cat /var/run/doodled.pid")

3) Does the "stop" action kill the daemon process and then fail with an
   error, or does it fail immediately without stopping the daemon?

4) Does it help to purge the doodled package ("apt-get --purge remove
   doodled" or "aptitude purge doodled") and reinstall it?

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Re: kde unwillingly starting

[Adam Hardy]

Francesco Pietra on 29/05/06 14:25, wrote:
Sent again to add: do not pay attention to gdm. It also came from 
updating/upgrading, because I never used gnome. However, it is not configured 
and as soon as the need to configure it is presented, it dies and I can enter 
my my username. startx then starts X11 and kde. From root it is just the 
same.


Hi Adam
Thank you for the suggestion. However, from the list of files below reported I 
was unable to trace which process had launched kde. I opened kdeinit, 
klauncher, dcopserver, kded, kaccess, kicher, kgpg: all binary files.


From xinit
. /etc/X11/session I had already been unable to trace startkde.

Any suggestion from the list below as to where to look ?


Hi Francesco, 


your listing of processes shows that the thread which originally spawned 
kdeinit has died. (Hence the parent thread = 1).

I recommend that you exit to the console and close X completely. 

Make sure that all processes pertaining to X have died, or kill them off. 

Stop gdm and disable it at boot-up (e.g. using sysvconfig for instance). 


Then when your process list is clean, do startx and have a look at the 
processes again. If kdeinit's parent thread is 1 again, check that you killed 
it off entirely.


Hope that helps
Adam


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Re: how to detect if a jpeg file is progressive or not

[Olafur Jens Sigurdsson]

Þann 2006-05-31, 17:12:36 (-0400) skrifaði H.S.:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have searched google but haven't found an answer I was looking for. I
> want to upload some family pics to share among relatives. Some have
> dialup connections. To facilitate image downloads in their browsers, I
> want to upload progressive jpegs. How do I find out if the jpegs I
> already have are progressive or not? If they are not, how do I convert
> them to progressive jpegs?
> 
> I have:
> ii imagemagick   6.2.4.5-0.8

Imagemagick does the trick for you.

To see if your files are interlaced or not you can use identify
-verbose filename.jpg and search for the Interlace line and if it says
None then it isnt a progressive jpeg and if it says Plane it is.

To convert from basic to progressive use convert infile.jpg -interlace
Plane outfile.jpg

HTH

Oli


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Re: console screen size

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Alan Ianson wrote:
> On this particular machine I am working on I get a text screen size of
> 80x25.  I'd like to change it to 80x30, or perhaps I need a 640x480
> frame buffer. Is  there a way I can change that from the command line,
> or in grub's menu.list maybe?

Yes, with the 'vga=' option in grub's menu.lst.
These are some of the url's that provide some clarity:

http://www.colug.net/pipermail/colug432/2005-October/001613.html
http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/configs/linux/menu.lst

'vga=ask' seems to provide a list of choices. Never tried it myself
though.


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how to detect if a jpeg file is progressive or not

[H.S.]

Hello,

I have searched google but haven't found an answer I was looking for. I
want to upload some family pics to share among relatives. Some have
dialup connections. To facilitate image downloads in their browsers, I
want to upload progressive jpegs. How do I find out if the jpegs I
already have are progressive or not? If they are not, how do I convert
them to progressive jpegs?

I have:
ii imagemagick   6.2.4.5-0.8


->HS



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security support for testing distribution

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

I am trying to understand how the security support works for testing 
distribution.  According to 

http://www.debian.org/security/faq.en.html#testing-security

security support migrates from unstable to testing for any package. However, 
there is a separate testing security repository according to

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/05/msg6.html

Does that mean that security updates go from unstable to testing security 
repository to testing distribution or am I misreading something here?

thanks for any pointers
raju

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RE: Issue with NFS share on sarge

[Jerry DuVal]

Also
this might help.  I configure it like so

emacs
/etc/fstab 

192.168.1.66:/opt/epace
/opt/epace-storage nfs rw,hard,intr 0 0 

 

 











From: Jerry DuVal
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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Issue with NFS share on
sarge



 

I have a NFS mounted to a network server, but when I restart
the box the NFS does not get mounted because the nic does not come online until
after the filesystems are mounted. Any suggestions?  I’m sure
I’m just missing a configuration.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Jerry

question

[Matus C]

Hi,
/ when I am starting my pc I have always options between booting up windows and 
kernel 2.6.7... , so I am sure it is kernel /

>Could you type exactly what you see on the screen ?
>Is it a white on black:

So, the screen is black and white.It looks like a MS-DOS 

>  Debian GNU/Linux 3.1  tty 1

Yes, I checked it, there is exactly written Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 coma tty 1 / 
coma is root /
There is also written coma login :
I typed there matus / what is actaully ordinary user / and it asked me for a 
password. After checkig password it waits, the coursor blinks.
I typed there "dpkg --help" and I found that statement "dselect".Then it showed 
me summary: firstly it was a group of packages I have already installed and 
then it was a group of packages i havent installed yet.Then i tried to install 
packages , but it didnt work because it was needed that I was a root / I dont 
know hot to login as a root /. Is this right way to complete installation of 
debian ?

>Or is it a more graphical login screen ?

>Would you want to have a grafical screen ?
 
I want to have more graphical screen... I was surfing on intenet and I saw that 
it should look like windows...I mean... it should have nice wallpaper on the 
background and control panel etc.is it possible on Debian ?

Matus


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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Ron Johnson]

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Wulfy wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>>
>> Katipo wrote:
>>> Mike McCarty wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
 This is a consequence of the fact that, in the USA, the Sovereign is
 the Electorate,
>>> Yes, but that's all rapidly changing, isn't it?
>>
>> When was *your* Head of State elected?  Oh, wait, she wasn't, was she?
>>
>> - --
>> Ron Johnson, Jr.
>> Jefferson LA  USA
> 
> The Queen may be "Head of state" but the person with power here is the
> Prime Minister...  The Queen is just a figurehead...

Australian constitutional crisis of 1975.  Unelected Governor-
General Sir John Kerr forced the elected PM out of office.

- --
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Jefferson LA  USA

Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: wake-on-lan

[Roel Schroeven]

Christian Pernegger schreef:
I also checked Documentation/networking/e100.txt (I presume the card's 
driver is e100 since that's the only network driver related module I see 
in lsmod) and it says that it should work with ethtool. But it doesn't.


It says the same for e1000 and that also only works with Intel's newer 
driver. Give it a try, chances are it will work.


Nope, still no luck.

On the bright side: I tried out some older kernels to see if it was a 
kernel update that triggered the faulty behavior. I tried 2.6.16, 2.6.12 
and 2.6.8; 2.6.8 works as it should. So I'm simply going to use that one 
for the time being.


I'll see if I can add anything useful to the bug report, once 
bugs.debian.org is back up.


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Issue with NFS share on sarge

[Jerry DuVal]

I have a NFS mounted to a network server, but when I restart
the box the NFS does not get mounted because the nic does not come online until
after the filesystems are mounted. Any suggestions?  I’m sure I’m
just missing a configuration.

 

Thanks in advance,

 

Jerry

Re: Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Steve Lamb]

Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I understand someone has written up a config file (forgot what the 
> special setting files are called) for screen writing formatting on 
> emacs, but, as I said, when I'm writing, I'm in a different mode, and I 
> just can't remember all the keystroke commands.  It's hard to explain, 
> but I can use vi or other console editors and have no issue while 
> programming, but once I switch gears and start writing fiction, my 
> brain works completely differently.  It must be a left brain/right 
> brain thing.

Ok, maybe I'm way off base here but why not take a different tact.  Why
not come up with a text based shorthand you can use (kinda like Wiki-style),
throw something together in Python/Perl/Ruby to parse it out and reformat for
later importation into OOo?  That way you can skip the GUI completely and also
don't need to remember keystrokes, only your formatting shorthand.

Of course, this is just really a pared down idea of what $EDITOR + LaTeX
would offer but it is what I would do as I do prefer text editing of all types
in vim, know Python/Perl and don't know LaTeX.  :)

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Re: Debian Sarge Installation problem, ISO image is mounted from NTFS

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 10:47:31PM +0530, chandavarapu wrote:
> Primary problem is, I don't want to make 14 CDs. So I put all 14 ISO images
> on NTFS partition.
> 
> I have the first cd of Debian Sarge r310ra installed with 2.6 kernel and I
> have the remaining 13 cd images on my windows partition on ntfs. I booted
> sarge mounted the ntfs partition and I then mounted the second cd iso image
> on my home directory.
> I now want to install the contents of the second cd and like wise I have to
> do for all 13
> I added
> deb file:/home/gopal/ntfs2-dir/debian/ sarge main
> to the sources.list file.  Later I ran apt-get update and this returns done.
> I think it should install the packages, but it just says done.
> Is there any other step after apt-get update.
> 
1. If you can get to a network: change your /etc/apt/sources.list file to
point to the 'Net and download from there.

2. Mount the iso images using the loop device (the CD-Writing HOWTO
gives the best information) and apt-cdrom add them one at a time.

Apt-get update and use whichever package manager you wish.

> Second Approach:
> When I use dselect and from within choose apt, the upgrade (i think step 2
> of apt) is able to show the packages and the install (I think step 3 of the
> apt) is unable to install the packages.
> 
> By the all I am doing all this as root.
> 
> Please advise, or suggest a different approach.
> Regards


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Re: No fonts in Flash Player (SOLVED)

[Benjamí Villoslada]

On 5/16/06, Edward J. Shornock  wrote:

On Thu, May 11, 2006 at 04:49:13PM +0200, Benjamí Villoslada wrote:
> I'm sorry, maybe is normal; just for comparisons with systems that works
> fine :)


If you've not solved this problem yet, check out bug#363378.  The
solutions posted there worked for me.


$ sudo mkfontdir /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/

and finally solved!

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Re: Wacom Mouse - Footnote

[Thomas H. George]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:24:26AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> The Wacom Graphire4 mouse worked perfectly with Sarge - best mouse I've 
> ever had.
> 
> After upgrading to Testing I have this strange set of affairs:  The 
> stylus will move the cursor, the mouse will not but the mouse buttons 
> and scroll wheel work.
> 
> I found and installed xserver-xorg-input-wacom.  This did not help.
> 
> I found xorgcfg was installed and ran it.  In expert mode I can make the 
> entries to add a wacom mouse but they have no effect.  Not surprising as 
> on starting xorgcfg there is an error message that a module was not 
> installed.  Using strace xorgcfg I found it was looking for 
> /lib/modules/drivers/linux which does not exist.  /lib/modules contains 
> directories for the installed kernels including 2.6.15Jun3.
> 
> I went to  linuxwacom.sf.net and modified xorg.conf as shown in the 
> HOWTO Adding Input Devices.  This did not make any difference.
> 
> Has anyone had success with the Wacom mouse in testing?  If so, do you 
> have any clues as to how to get my mouse working again?
> 
> Tom George
> 
I have edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually adding the following items:

Section "InputDevice"
Driver  "wacom"
Identifier  "eraser"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/event0"
Option  "Type"  "eraser"
Option  "USB"   "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver  "wacom"
Identifier  "cursor"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/event0"
Option  "Type"  "cursor"
Option  "USB"   "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver  "wacom"
Identifier  "mouse"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/event0"
Option  "Type"  "mouse"
Option  "USB"   "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver  "wacom"
Identifier  "pad"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/event0"
Option  "Type"  "pad"
Option  "USB"   "on"
EndSection

The Section for the wacom stylus was already present.  The Section for
wacom mouse I made up when the other additions had no effect.  It didn't
help and neither did adding a line

InputDevice "cursor""SendCoreEvents"

in the Section "Serverlayout".

These changes didn't hurt either but adding the line

InputDevice "Mouse0""CorePointer"

which is suggested in the Linux Wacom Project HOWTO caused gdm to abort
when restarted.

For the record the file /dev/input contains event0, event1, event2,
mouse0, mouse1, mice and two symlinks wacom and tablet-graphire4-4x5.
Both the symlinks point to event2.

Tom


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Re: Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Hal Vaughan]

On Wednesday 31 May 2006 15:04, Leonid Grinberg wrote:
> Several things:
>
> 1) Do not use a desktop environment (e.g GNOME, KDE). Use just a
> window manager. I personally suggest Sawfish.

My mistake, and thanks for pointing it out.  I've been using KDE so long 
I got lazy in distinguishing my terms.  Thanks for the heads up.

> 2) If Abiword will work, use it. It's nice and usable. I use Emacs
> and LaTeX myself, but if you want a WYSIWYG processor, Abiword is
> fine.

I understand someone has written up a config file (forgot what the 
special setting files are called) for screen writing formatting on 
emacs, but, as I said, when I'm writing, I'm in a different mode, and I 
just can't remember all the keystroke commands.  It's hard to explain, 
but I can use vi or other console editors and have no issue while 
programming, but once I switch gears and start writing fiction, my 
brain works completely differently.  It must be a left brain/right 
brain thing.

Hal


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Re: debian testing xorg fails on /dev/input/mice

[Thomas H. George]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 03:21:39PM +0200, Jon Jahren wrote:
> Hi all
> I've just installed debian etch on my main computer, but I get an error
> when trying to start X, it tells me:
> (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
> No such file or directory
> (EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
> (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
>  No core pointer
> 
> And then goes on to give me a fatal error, and X doesn't start.
> 
> What package would provide this driver for me? I have
> xserver-xorg-input-mouse and I also found this link:
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/12/msg00552.html
> But no solution. 
> Any help greatly appreciated, thanks
> Regards
> Jon
> 
Others may have better, more detailed advice but I just upgraded to
testing (etch) and learned that I had to run dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xorg to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.  This will give you an
opportunity to specify the mouse and the mouse dev.

Tom
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Re: Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Leonid Grinberg]

Several things:

1) Do not use a desktop environment (e.g GNOME, KDE). Use just a
window manager. I personally suggest Sawfish.
2) If Abiword will work, use it. It's nice and usable. I use Emacs and
LaTeX myself, but if you want a WYSIWYG processor, Abiword is fine.

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Re: Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Liudmila Yafremava]

I have been using Blackbox ever since I got into Debian, mostly because it 
is so small and fast. I use it with xterms, graphics, word processing and 
simulations. It's great for low power beasts. I had a problem with it only 
on one machine, where it routinely but spontaneously shut down X, and 
never had the time to investigate. For word processors I mostly use TeX in 
Emacs, and Abiword when I have to produce .docs and .rtfs. Abiword's a 
little buggy, though. Sometimes quits on opening a file, or hangs during a 
save or when producing a .ps


On Wed, 31 May 2006, Tim Day wrote:


On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 12:59 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:

Can anyone recommend or tell me about what window managers they use on
low resource systems with good results and what word processors they
use in that situation?


I've found the Blackbox window manager with the "minimal" style works
really well on ancient low-memory hardware, including things with only
8-bit displays.  I wasn't trying to run much more than a bunch of xterms
& emacs though.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Curt Howland]

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On Wednesday 31 May 2006 13:39, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> > I see this claim constantly.  You know what, it is completely
> > without merit.  If the same thing had happened to "elect" Gore or
> > Kerry, you would likely be praising the system tfor having
> > "worked."
>
> No, I would still be criticizing it as broken, as I did in '96 when
> Clinton won a minority re-election.  Nor am I a Democrat.

That may be one of the worst aspects of having a large, 
interventionist government: People get to claim that the only reason 
someone would object is because they're not the ones presently in 
power. I, too, object to election by minority, and it has nothing to 
do with which face of the Party of State Power is showing at the 
moment.

To object to that power being wielded _at_all_ is completely outside 
of their ability to comprehend. Exactly like someone who has lived 
under "universal government healthcare" all their lives being unable 
to comprehend how someone would object to having health care paid for 
by taxation.

Even in the so-called "land of the free", the vast majority of people 
cannot grasp that roads used to be private.

What I find astounding is that these attitudes come from people on 
this list, a list specifically created for and concerning a system 
utilized productively by millions of people on a completely voluntary 
basis. I doubt anyone here is happy to pay $95 to Microsoft for 
software they do not want on their commodity hardware, just because 
it comes pre-installed. These same people derisively call it 
a "Microsoft Tax", and then turn around and say other taxes are just 
fine and it's silly to object, just because these are levied 
by "governments" rather than "corporations".

BTW, thanks to the Debian developers for all your hard work, libsound 
is working in Unstable again. On to the next bug!

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Stephen]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 10:35:02AM -0700 or thereabouts, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Wednesday 31 May 2006 02:35, Wulfy wrote:
> 
> > The Queen may be "Head of state" but the person with power here is the
> > Prime Minister...  The Queen is just a figurehead...
> 
> She does occasionally excersize her power.  Most notably, back in the late 
> 1990s, she declared a vote for Quebec to secede as non-binding.  The 
> referendum failed without her help anyway, though.

Paul she has NO power, she's a figure head. It was simply public
relations, at the request of the then Canadian government. 

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Re: PHP5 and MySQL5

[Stephen]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:17:14AM -0400 or thereabouts, Oswaldo Otero wrote:
> Hello Guys.
> 
> We are installing 9 servers with Debian but we want to use PHP5 and 
> MySQL5. Those packages are not in stable, so what options do we have. We 
> are thinking in dotdeb.org. What dou you think about that.
> 
> Those solutions are stable enough?
> 
> I will apreciate any FeedBack.

Hi:

I'm running Sarge (Stable) as well. MySQL 5/PHP 5 are available via
backports. Put the following into your sources list;

'deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main'

And in 'etc/apt' create a "preferences" file, and add the following to
it;

Package: *
Pin: release a=sarge-backports
Pin-Priority: 200

Package: php5*
Pin: release a=sarge-backports
Pin-Priority: 999

Package: mysql
Pin: release a=sarge-backports
Pin-Priority: 999

This should allow you to get the versions of both that you require.

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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Paul Johnson]

On Wednesday 31 May 2006 02:35, Wulfy wrote:

> The Queen may be "Head of state" but the person with power here is the
> Prime Minister...  The Queen is just a figurehead...

She does occasionally excersize her power.  Most notably, back in the late 
1990s, she declared a vote for Quebec to secede as non-binding.  The 
referendum failed without her help anyway, though.

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Re: running backup

[Dave Ewart]

On Wednesday, 31.05.2006 at 13:56 +0800, Jon  Miller wrote:

> #!/bin/sh
> # script to automate the backup of the Ruby server to the W2K3 server
> #
> DAY=`date +'%a-%d-%m-%y'`
> BACKUPDIR=/backup
> RUBYLIVE=/var/lib/mysql/
> 
> cd $RUBYLIVE
> tar -czvf /backup/rubylive${DAY}.tgz ./rubylive

(Not related to what you asked, but might be important)

Are you backing up MySQL databases here via there location in the
filesystem?  If so, this is 'unsafe', since any changes made to the
databases during your 'tar' will not be handled properly: this *could*
result in a partially- or completely-useless backup.

You should really backup MySQL databases using mysqldump instead.

If that's not what you're doing, apologies...

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Re: Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Tim Day]

On Wed, 2006-05-31 at 12:59 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> Can anyone recommend or tell me about what window managers they use on 
> low resource systems with good results and what word processors they 
> use in that situation? 

I've found the Blackbox window manager with the "minimal" style works
really well on ancient low-memory hardware, including things with only
8-bit displays.  I wasn't trying to run much more than a bunch of xterms
& emacs though.

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console screen size

[Alan Ianson]

On this particular machine I am working on I get a text screen size of 80x25. 
I'd like to change it to 80x30, or perhaps I need a 640x480 frame buffer. Is 
there a way I can change that from the command line, or in grub's menu.list 
maybe? I've taken a look but can't seem to find info on how to do that.


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Re: Audigy LS / ALSA Volume control

[Pirkka Jokela]

Well, I agree, but I currently have the alsaplayer / alsamixer volume
at "1%" that is the lowest possible value and I also have the stereo
amplifier volume at about 1/10. This is not normal. And what if I want
to use headphones attached straight to the computer?

This isn't critical in the sense that I can live totally without the
sound card, but I am really looking forward to having it work
properly.


From some of the alsa material I thought that it would be possible to

chain the ALSA controls so that I could have a "pre amplifier" that
would reduce the volume before the main alsaplayer / alsamixer volume
control. I haven't figured out any way to actually to this, however.

If I use a sound server like ESD or aRTs or JACK can I use them to
reduce volume before the sound goes to ALSA? If so, which one should I
use?

Thanks again,

  Pirkka


On 5/30/06, Donald Teed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

It's normal to not turn up the speakers to maximum to avoid
distortion.  Why not control the volume with the speakers
volume control?

On 5/30/06, Pirkka Jokela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently bought a new computer and installed Debian unstable for amd64 on
> it. I'm having trouble with my Creative Soundblaster Audigy LS card.
>
> I am trying to use ALSA with my card and the ca0106 module. I get sound from
> the card, but the sound is really loud and I have to have my volume setting
> at the lowest possible value in alsamixer (or Gnome ALSA mixer) and the
> sound still almost "breaks".
>
> I have tried all the plugs in the sound card and I have the right one as it
> is the only one that works and it is color coded green. I'm using the analog
> out and the card doesn't even have SPDIF, even  though ALSA offers SPDIF
> controls in the mixer.
>
> I'm able to adjust the volume with a hardware stereo system, but it would
> really help if I could get the volume that comes out of the computer down to
> normal line out levels.



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Re: Re: non-free nvidia driver on etch?

[Pearce, Jonathan D]

Using the developer's repository worked for me after a couple of
reboot/apt-get cycles. Thanks, Stephen.

Sincerely,
Jonathan

Re: Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Digby Tarvin]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 12:59:32PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I have an old Mitsubishi Amity, which is smaller than a laptop, but not 
> as small as a palm top.  It's old and built to run Windows 95, but I 
> know people have gotten Debian to do well on this computer.  It has 48 
> MB of memory and a 1.4 GB hard drive, which means it does not have many 
> resources and, by today's standards -- well, let's not even talk about 
> speed.
> 
> I will be using this because I can put it in my backpack with my books 
> and papers and easily take it along without a case, a laptop cooler, 
> and a lot of other toys (just the power supply).  My main goal is to be 
> able to write on it, save, and import into OpenOffice later.  (OO 
> requires too much RAM to work on this).  I may, later, end up using it 
> to do some troubleshooting by hooking it up to my clients' LANs, but 
> most of what I need for that is ssh, ping, traceroute, and similar 
> utilities that are all command line based.
> 
> While I use vi quite often and have used emacs, I prefer a GUI based 
> word processor when I'm in "writing mode."  It just matches the way I 
> think when I'm writing instead of programming.
> 
> Can anyone recommend or tell me about what window managers they use on 
> low resource systems with good results and what word processors they 
> use in that situation?  I know AbiWord only requires 16 MB, and that 
> makes it a good candidate.  I thought about GEdit, but a little more 
> formatting would be nice, since I am often writing film scripts, and 
> margins are needed for those.  That doesn't make it unusable, but just 
> makes it less desirable than AbiWord (which I have heard can be 
> programmed with macros to do easy margin changes quickly).
> 
> Any other comments on programs, desktops, windows mangers, and such that 
> people are using on older/smaller systems would be appreciated.  I'm 
> planning on sticking with Sarge, so I don't want to use programs in 
> Sid.  Etch is a possibility, but I'd rather wait and stick with Stable.
> 
> Thanks!
> Hal

Doesn't sound much less powerful that the machine I am typing this on:
 BSDI BSD/OS 3.1 Kernel #37: Tue May 10 17:40:33 GMT/BST 2005
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 cpu = 80486 (about 50 MHz) model 3, stepping 5, type 0, features 3
 delay multiplier 848
 real mem = 50331648 (48.00 MB)
 avail mem = 47624192 (45.42 MB)
 buffer cache = 4870144 (4.64 MB)

It isn't one of my Debian systems, but I would hope that Linux is not
significantly less efficient than BSD.

The only thing I would find restrictive is the hard disk size. If you
can't upgrade it, then you will probably just have to be a bit selective
of what you install.

If been using xdm/fvwm on this system without a hickup for years - since
this hardware was considered respectable - and there is no reason for
it to need more resources now.

Don't have any suggestions on GUI word processing. I am happy
with vi and TeX, which runs like a charm.

Generally it is only when trying to use something like KDE/Gnome or
Open Office that I feel the need for ridiculously powerful hardware...

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Debian Sarge Installation problem, ISO image is mounted from NTFS

[chandavarapu]

Primary problem is, I don't want to make 14 CDs. So I put all 14 ISO images on NTFS partition.I have the first cd of Debian Sarge r310ra installed with 2.6 kernel and I have the remaining 13 cd images on my windows partition on ntfs. I booted sarge mounted the ntfs partition and I then mounted the second cd iso image on my home directory.
I now want to install the contents of the second cd and like wise I have to do for all 13I addeddeb file:/home/gopal/ntfs2-dir/debian/ sarge mainto the sources.list file.  Later I ran apt-get update and this returns done.
I think it should install the packages, but it just says done.Is there any other step after apt-get update.Second Approach:When I use dselect and from within choose apt, the upgrade (i think step 2 of apt) is able to show the packages and the install (I think step 3 of the apt) is unable to install the packages.
By the all I am doing all this as root.Please advise, or suggest a different approach.Regards

Re: Debina Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Black Dew]

Robert J. A. Fernandes. wrote:

in this section the file size its shows 4.4G for 
debian-31r2-i386-binary-1, but when I am downloading it give me 372MB 
and for the another file debian-31r2-i386-binary-2 it shows 4.1G but 
when I downloads it gives me 127MB.


Something (most probably your download program or your OS) can't handle 
files larger than 4gb.


Try downloading using different software (that supports 64bit file 
sizes) or find a smaller image.



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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Wulfy]

Ron Johnson wrote:

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Katipo wrote:

Mike McCarty wrote:




This is a consequence of the fact that, in the USA, the Sovereign is
the Electorate,

Yes, but that's all rapidly changing, isn't it?


When was *your* Head of State elected?  Oh, wait, she wasn't, was she?

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Re: wake-on-lan

[Christian Pernegger]

I also checked Documentation/networking/e100.txt (I presume the card's 
driver is e100 since that's the only network driver related module I see 
in lsmod) and it says that it should work with ethtool. But it doesn't.


It says the same for e1000 and that also only works with Intel's newer 
driver. Give it a try, chances are it will work.


C.


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Recommendations for Low Resource System

[Hal Vaughan]

I have an old Mitsubishi Amity, which is smaller than a laptop, but not 
as small as a palm top.  It's old and built to run Windows 95, but I 
know people have gotten Debian to do well on this computer.  It has 48 
MB of memory and a 1.4 GB hard drive, which means it does not have many 
resources and, by today's standards -- well, let's not even talk about 
speed.

I will be using this because I can put it in my backpack with my books 
and papers and easily take it along without a case, a laptop cooler, 
and a lot of other toys (just the power supply).  My main goal is to be 
able to write on it, save, and import into OpenOffice later.  (OO 
requires too much RAM to work on this).  I may, later, end up using it 
to do some troubleshooting by hooking it up to my clients' LANs, but 
most of what I need for that is ssh, ping, traceroute, and similar 
utilities that are all command line based.

While I use vi quite often and have used emacs, I prefer a GUI based 
word processor when I'm in "writing mode."  It just matches the way I 
think when I'm writing instead of programming.

Can anyone recommend or tell me about what window managers they use on 
low resource systems with good results and what word processors they 
use in that situation?  I know AbiWord only requires 16 MB, and that 
makes it a good candidate.  I thought about GEdit, but a little more 
formatting would be nice, since I am often writing film scripts, and 
margins are needed for those.  That doesn't make it unusable, but just 
makes it less desirable than AbiWord (which I have heard can be 
programmed with macros to do easy margin changes quickly).

Any other comments on programs, desktops, windows mangers, and such that 
people are using on older/smaller systems would be appreciated.  I'm 
planning on sticking with Sarge, so I don't want to use programs in 
Sid.  Etch is a possibility, but I'd rather wait and stick with Stable.

Thanks!

Hal


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Re: fsck on ext3, lost files

[Linas Žvirblis]

Gary Parker wrote:

> Lost+found contains over 300 entries numbered #1504387 through #4635638. About
> 50 of these are directories.   One of these directories contains most of my
> user's home directory, though many of the subdirectories that I am interested 
> in
> appear empty.  In particular I am looking for jpeg images.

[...]

> I've read, "Your only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files that have been
> deleted and hope for the best."  Is this still true?

Something like this happened to me once (but I do not remember why).
Lost+found contained various entries that did not make any sense at
first, but they actually appeared to be files I was looking for, only
with weird names, and _scattered_ all over the place.

What I mean, is that if files were in a certain directory, they can no
longer be in that one directory. You will probably need to check all of
them to find what you are looking for.

A valuable tool in this case is "file". It can identify loads of
different file formats, and can be very effective in conjunction with
some shell scripting. There is also tool called "testdisk". I have never
used it, but it does seem to have some very useful features.

It is highly unlikely that you will be able to recover a lot of useful
data by examining hard drive physically, but if that is important for
you, here are some tips:

* Only operate the disk in read-only mode.
* First of all try to locate you data in _files_ in lost+found. Most of
  it should be should still be there. It is just a matter of copying the
  files and renaming them properly.
* After you have salvaged your files, then you may want to do physical
  analysis of the disk using "testdisk" or similar tools, if there are
  still thing missing.

Of course, this is based on the assumption that you do have another disk
or a separate bootable partition available. Otherwise you will have to
move files around in the same partition and this will overwrite parts of
files that might have survived somewhere on disk.

In my case, I was able to locate all my important data in lost+found.
Chances are that you will also.

Good luck.


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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Steve Lamb]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> Just wait until Alito "elects" Bush to a third term as president of the US in 
> a 5 to 4 swing decision.  Same as the last two elections, just change the 
> names of the 7 people allowed to vote in the last two elections...

Come off it, Paul.  Even under the conditions that Gore's team asked for
on the recounts Bush won.  In fact only under one recout, one Gore's team
*DIDN'T* ask for did Gore squeak by on a narrower margin than any of the other
recounts.  Kinda pathetic to harp on this years after the fact.  Grow up.  My
candidate lost, too.  Don't see me harping on it, do you?

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Re: question

[Peter Vandenabeele]

On 5/30/06, Matus C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi, I have sarge cd, whole name is Debian GNU/Linux sarge cd 3.1 r0a i386,


This is not the very latest version. But you could install from this CD and then
upgrade to the latest version.


I booted it by means of "boot linux26" and it really worked,


In private, I adviced Matus to try

 boot: linux26

which actually got him further (probably resolving an infinite hang
related to SATA and the 2.4 kernel).


but now i have no idea what to do with it. the kernel is working/ I can 
login /

It looks like as if it needs some statement to continue in installation.


Could you type exactly what you see on the screen ?

Is it a white on black:

 Debian GNU/Linux 3.1  tty 1

Or is it a more graphical login screen ?

Or something else ?

Would you want to have a grafical screen ?

One thing I would certainly advice first is to log in as root and type:

# apt-get update
# apt-get upgrade

That will upgrade your system to the latest stable version.

Peter

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Wacom Mouse - Still Baffled.

[Thomas H. George]

The Wacom Graphire4 mouse worked perfectly with Sarge - best mouse I've 
ever had.


After upgrading to Testing I have this strange set of affairs:  The 
stylus will move the cursor, the mouse will not but the mouse buttons 
and scroll wheel work.


I found and installed xserver-xorg-input-wacom.  This did not help.

I found xorgcfg was installed and ran it.  In expert mode I can make the 
entries to add a wacom mouse but they have no effect.  Not surprising as 
on starting xorgcfg there is an error message that a module was not 
installed.  Using strace xorgcfg I found it was looking for 
/lib/modules/drivers/linux which does not exist.  /lib/modules contains 
directories for the installed kernels including 2.6.15Jun3.


I went to  linuxwacom.sf.net and modified xorg.conf as shown in the 
HOWTO Adding Input Devices.  This did not make any difference.


Has anyone had success with the Wacom mouse in testing?  If so, do you 
have any clues as to how to get my mouse working again?


Tom George


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PHP5 and MySQL5

[Oswaldo Otero]

Hello Guys.

We are installing 9 servers with Debian but we want to use PHP5 and 
MySQL5. Those packages are not in stable, so what options do we have. We 
are thinking in dotdeb.org. What dou you think about that.


Those solutions are stable enough?

I will apreciate any FeedBack.

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Re: simple web blog software in sid

[Anthony Campbell]

On 30 May 2006, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Richard Blumel wrote:
> >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> >Hash: SHA1
> >
> >Is their something like wordpress in sid or do I have to move up in the
> >world
> >
> 
> I use WP, but I used the source from WordPress, now almost 2 years ago.
> I like it because it uses mysql to keep the data in and because I liked 
> the looks of it.
> 
> I've now changed the css and have totally turned off all comments, 
> including trackbacks because you get nothing but idiots talking to you, 
> the 68% of the internet that is up for grabs.
> 
> I was looking, and am still looking, for a weblog that would do its 
> formatting with LaTex, rather than proprietary code, parts of HTML, etc.
> 
> No such thing I guess.
> 
> H

I've found spamkarma 2 (http://unknowngenius.com/blog/wordpress/spam-karma/)
to be extremely effective in eliminating spam comments in WP.

Anthony


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fsck on ext3, lost files

[Gary Parker]

I have Debian/Stable installed on one partition formatted as ext3. Recently,
when booting into my Debian/Stable partition a check was forced
and fsck failed.   I was then prompted to enter the root password and run
fsck manually.  It was also mentioned that the file system was mounted
read-only and a command was given to remount in read-write mode.

I misunderstood this as a direction to first remount in read-write mode
and then run fsck.  I proceeded to answer yes to _many_ prompts from fsck.

Although the file system was then pronounced clean it failed to reboot.
After further inspection almost all evidence of the former file system was
gone.  Only lost+found remains.

Lost+found contains over 300 entries numbered #1504387 through #4635638. About
50 of these are directories.   One of these directories contains most of my
user's home directory, though many of the subdirectories that I am interested in
appear empty.  In particular I am looking for jpeg images.

I have tried recover, e2undel, debugfs, and lde.  There was very little I
could recover with these programs.

For example, lde shows:
0x0016F5A2: drwxr-xr-x  2   4096 #1504674

This directory lists many of the subdirectories and files from /home/gary, 
for example:
0x:  pictures
0x00097D35: -rw-r--r--  2179 .jedrc

Is there anything I can do to recover files from these lost directories?

I've read, "Your only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files that have been
deleted and hope for the best."  Is this still true?


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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Paul Johnson]

On Wednesday 31 May 2006 04:27, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Just wait until Alito "elects" Bush to a third term as president of the
> > US in a 5 to 4 swing decision.  Same as the last two elections, just
> > change the names of the 7 people allowed to vote in the last two
> > elections...
>
> I see this claim constantly.  You know what, it is completely without
> merit.  If the same thing had happened to "elect" Gore or Kerry, you
> would likely be praising the system tfor having "worked."

No, I would still be criticizing it as broken, as I did in '96 when Clinton 
won a minority re-election.  Nor am I a Democrat.

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Re: Free SWF to AVI converter for Sarge

[J.A. de Vries]

On 2006-05-31 @ 14:03:32 (week 22) Siju George wrote:

> On 5/30/06, J.A. de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 2006-05-30 @ 11:34:37 (week 22) Siju George wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Is there any Free SWF to AVI converter for Debian Sarge Linux?
> >
> >Take a look at ffmpeg. I regularly use it to convert clips to a format
> >that suits me better. Works like a charm.
> >
> 
> Thankyou so much for the reply Vries :-)
> 
> It seems ffmpeg does not support the SWF format.

If you do ffmpeg --formats you'll get a list of supported formats. 

I did use it to convert the Stephen Colbert clips to mpeg, which were in
some Macromedia format. I mistakenly assumed they were in swf, but I
checked and found they actually were in flv. Sorry for that. 

I found a page with some specifics on the swf format and its use under
GNU/Linux, maybe use can use their tools. See
http://www.swftools.org/

Grx HdV


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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Ron Johnson]

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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
>> Just wait until Alito "elects" Bush to a third term as president of the US 
>> in 
>> a 5 to 4 swing decision.  Same as the last two elections, just change the 
>> names of the 7 people allowed to vote in the last two elections...
>>
> 
> I see this claim constantly.  You know what, it is completely without
> merit.  If the same thing had happened to "elect" Gore or Kerry, you
> would likely be praising the system tfor having "worked."  Fact is, the
> procedures involving the supreme court in such cases were laid out long
> ago.  If you have a problem with them after the fact, then shame on you
> for not making yourself aware and trying to do something about it
> earlier.  Being part of the electorate is a right *and* a responsibility

I don't see why Paul Johnson has any basis for complaint.  After
all, he claims not to be an American...

> You know what I really don't understand?  How it happened with Gore and
> not one single Deomcrat came out afterward trying to seriously "fix" the
> rules that were a problem.  Crying about after it is done won't fix
> anything.

More profitable to leave the problem and spend time complaining to
the base, keeping them stirred up.

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Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: Problem updating doodled

[Michael Lightfoot]

On Wednesday 31 May 2006 08:36, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> I would first try to find out why the pre-removal script cannot stop the
> daemon. Is the daemon running at all? You can check it with
>
> ps -ef | grep [d]oodled
>
> If the daemon is not running you can try the start/stop actions yourself
> (as root):
>
> invoke-rc.d doodled start
> invoke-rc.d doodled stop
>
Start works, stop fails.

> Maybe that will give you an error message which indicates what is wrong.
> If there is no error you can start the daemon again and see if that is
> enough to satisfy the pre-removal script.
>
> If all else fails you can try to force the removal of the package:
>
> dpkg -r --force-all doodled
>
This doesn't work - it still complains that the stop of the daemon fails.

I then simply tried commenting out the guts of the stop function 
in /etc/init.d/doodled and running the upgrade, which worked.

invoke-rc.d doodled stop still fails.  Here is the function 
from /etc/init.d/doodled:

DAEMON=/usr/bin/doodled
NAME=doodled
DESC="doodle daemon"

  stop)
  echo -n "Stopping $DESC: "
  start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/run/$NAME.pid \
  --exec $DAEMON
  echo "$NAME."
  ;;


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Re: Free SWF to AVI converter for Sarge

[Carl Fink]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 01:55:31PM +0530, Siju George wrote:
> On 5/30/06, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:34:37AM +0530, Siju George wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Is there any Free SWF to AVI converter for Debian Sarge Linux?
> >
> >You can get mencoder from debian-multimedia.org.
> >--
> 
> Thankyou so much Carl for the info. It seems mencoder doesnot support
> the SWF format.

Did you install the w32codecs package (and are you using an x86 CPU)?
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howto customize printing from adobe reader 7.0.5

[Johannes Wiedersich]

I'm using cups and kprinter for printing on debian sarge. Apparently 
adobe reader is completely unaware of this. Every time I want to print 
something I have to manually select A4 instead of letter etc. and have 
to tell it to use kprinter instead of lpr.


Other applications successfully detect available printers and 
automatically select A4 paper as is the global configuration. Is there a 
way to force this on adobe reader?


I know that my print setup worked in older versions of acroread, but now 
that I use


acroread:
  Installed: 7.0.5-0.3
  Candidate: 7.0.5-0.3
  Version Table:
 *** 7.0.5-0.3 0
800 ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

it doesn't.

Any help is appreciated!

Johannes


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debian testing xorg fails on /dev/input/mice

[Jon Jahren]

Hi all
I've just installed debian etch on my main computer, but I get an error
when trying to start X, it tells me:
(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
No such file or directory
(EE) Configured Mouse: cannot open input device
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Configured Mouse"
 No core pointer

And then goes on to give me a fatal error, and X doesn't start.

What package would provide this driver for me? I have
xserver-xorg-input-mouse and I also found this link:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/12/msg00552.html
But no solution. 
Any help greatly appreciated, thanks
Regards
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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Gerard Sharpe]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

Paul Johnson wrote:
  
Just wait until Alito "elects" Bush to a third term as president of the US in 
a 5 to 4 swing decision.  Same as the last two elections, just change the 
names of the 7 people allowed to vote in the last two elections...





I see this claim constantly.  You know what, it is completely without
merit.  If the same thing had happened to "elect" Gore or Kerry, you
would likely be praising the system tfor having "worked."  Fact is, the
procedures involving the supreme court in such cases were laid out long
ago.  If you have a problem with them after the fact, then shame on you
for not making yourself aware and trying to do something about it
earlier.  Being part of the electorate is a right *and* a responsibility

You know what I really don't understand?  How it happened with Gore and
not one single Deomcrat came out afterward trying to seriously "fix" the
rules that were a problem.  Crying about after it is done won't fix
anything.

-Roberto

  

I thought I subscribed to a debian list not one about US Politics...


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Re: wake-on-lan

[Roel Schroeven]

Christian Pernegger schreef:

 > [...] I can remotely wake the box if I shut it down  before it boots
 > Linux, but it doesn't work if I shut it down when Linux is running.

I had the same problem, as do many others according to Google.

1) Check if WoL is on using

# ethtool eth0

There should be a 'g' in the Wake-On: line. If there is not you'll have 
to run


It's there:

Supports Wake-on: g
Wake-on: g

2) The problem in my case was that the driver turned off the NIC 
completely during shutdown, so it lost its link to the switch (check the 
LEDs) and the ability to wake up.


The LEDs (a green one and an orange one FWIW) are lighted when the box 
is powered down.


I also checked Documentation/networking/e100.txt (I presume the card's 
driver is e100 since that's the only network driver related module I see 
in lsmod) and it says that it should work with ethtool. But it doesn't.


I must be missing something; I'll search further tonight when I get 
home; I'm not going to mess around with it right now since I'm not home 
to power it back up manually.


I filed a bug on WoL not working, please add your experience there - 
maybe someone in the kernel team will look at it if more people complain :)


http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=368399


I'm not sure it is a kernel bug yet, but I will my experience once I 
have a better view of the problem and hopefully the solution.



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Re: OT: Politics [Was:Social Contract]

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

Paul Johnson wrote:
> 
> Just wait until Alito "elects" Bush to a third term as president of the US in 
> a 5 to 4 swing decision.  Same as the last two elections, just change the 
> names of the 7 people allowed to vote in the last two elections...
> 

I see this claim constantly.  You know what, it is completely without
merit.  If the same thing had happened to "elect" Gore or Kerry, you
would likely be praising the system tfor having "worked."  Fact is, the
procedures involving the supreme court in such cases were laid out long
ago.  If you have a problem with them after the fact, then shame on you
for not making yourself aware and trying to do something about it
earlier.  Being part of the electorate is a right *and* a responsibility

You know what I really don't understand?  How it happened with Gore and
not one single Deomcrat came out afterward trying to seriously "fix" the
rules that were a problem.  Crying about after it is done won't fix
anything.

-Roberto

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Re: ALSA + sid dist-upgrade may 30 2006

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Linas Žvirblis wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Then I replaced libasound2 1.0.11-6 with -3 because -4 is nowhere to be
found.


1.0.11-7 should also be safe.


I'll report when it fails again at reboot eventually.


Let us hope not.




Worked! Thanks for posting that stuff!
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Re: Debina Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Jon Dowland]

At 1149075468 past the epoch, Robert J. A. Fernandes. wrote:
> I have downloaded DVD ISO Images files from this below
> location: -
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-dvd/
> 
> in this section the file size its shows 4.4G for
> debian-31r2-i386-binary-1, but when I am downloading it
> give me 372MB and for the another file
> debian-31r2-i386-binary-2 it shows 4.1G but when I
> downloads it gives me 127MB.
> 
> So is this file ok or has to be correct 4 GB?

The files you have downloaded are corrupted or truncated and
are not proper copies of the dvd images. You can verify this
for yourself by calculating the md5 sums of the files you
have and comparing them against those listed in the MD5SUMS
file at the address above (although since the file sizes
don't match there's no point in doing this now, your copies
are definitely broken).

It is generally not recommended to download DVD images
directly in this manner, as it is prone to failure (as we
can see here). A far better means is to use "jigdo" as
described at . This is
more reliable and often faster.
  

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Re: running backup

[Jon Dowland]

At 1149083799 past the epoch, Jon  Miller wrote:
> cd $BACKUPDIR
> smbclient //server/backup tfc651800 -U administrator
> put rubylive${DAY}.tgz

I think Florian has hit on the problem here, but it would be
easier in general if you supplied some kind of diagnostic
output rather than just "it does not work".

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Re: running backup

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 03:34:51 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 13:56:39 +0800, Jon  Miller wrote:
> >> I have a file that I want to run daily to backup data.  
> >>This tgz file then needs to be copied to a Windows 2003 server.
> >>I'm using smbclient, but it does not seem to work thru the script.
> >>Can someone point out where the problem lies.  I run this as a
> >>cron job as follows:
> >> 30 19 * * 1,2,3,4,5 root /root/rubybackup.sh
> >>
> >> The script is as follows:
> >> #!/bin/sh
> >> # script to automate the backup of the Ruby server to the W2K3 server
> >> #
> >> DAY=`date +'%a-%d-%m-%y'`
> >> BACKUPDIR=/backup
> >> RUBYLIVE=/var/lib/mysql/
> >>
> >> cd $RUBYLIVE
> >> tar -czvf /backup/rubylive${DAY}.tgz ./rubylive
> >>
> >> cd $BACKUPDIR
> >> smbclient //server/backup tfc651800 -U administrator
> >> put rubylive${DAY}.tgz
> > 
> > The recommended procedure for smbclient in scripts is to use the -c
> > option for the command string. In your case that would probably be
> > something like
> > 
> > smbclient //server/backup tfc651800 -U administrator -c "put 
> > rubylive${DAY}.tgz; exit"
> > 
> > Is it really necessary to use the administrator account for pushing a
> > backup file to the server?
> 
> Windows has functional non-Administrator accounts??  :\

Oops, my bad. Can we all pretend that it was a rhetorical question?

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Re: Debian Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Mihira Fernando]

Robert J. A. Fernandes. wrote:

Hi Mihira,

Can you please check from your side for this link
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-dvd/ for downloading
DVD ISO Files what is the size while downloading this DVD iso files?

It comes to 4+ gigs.


For this reason I am attaching my pc screen shots so you can understand
fully while I was downloading.

my fears are confirmed. you are using IE to download these.
Use a download manager instead. I use Flashget from www.amazesoft.com 
but you can use any DL manager you like.




I tried again downloading but same file size it shows while downloading.
This is because IE doesnt download the file again. it only shows what it 
downloaded from before.


Please help

Download the ISO using a download manager.
Then check the MD5Sum (checksum) of the downloaded file against the one 
given on the site using the tool I suggested in the previous mail.


If they match, then burn the ISO on to a DVD.

Ace.

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Re: Debian Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Mihira Fernando]

Robert J. A. Fernandes. wrote:

Hi Mihira,

Thank you very much for your email.

But my problem is when I download the DVD ISO Files it showing me only
372 MB for 1st ISO and 2nd ISO it's showing me 127MB is this right size.
That's what I want to confirm with you.
the site provides Checksums for all the ISOs it hass. Please use those 
check sums against the checksums of the files you have downloaded.

IF the checksums are the same then you can use the downloaded file.
However, since you say your file is  mere 372 MB when it should be 4.4 
GIGs, I highly doubt that you have the full iso.


IS that the same size of the both ISO files what I have downloaded, even
I tried 2-3 times again & again it's the same size & I think no problem
in my internet downloads, its even fast download.
what is the speed of your net connection ? What is your Download agent ? 
if its Internet Explorer then I'm pretty sure you have a corrupt 
download file. Use a download manager and download the ISO files again.


I think I should burn these ISO files on DVD's then I should try &
install right?


withiut verifying the checksums, do NOT burn the ISOs as you're likely 
to waste good DVDs over them.


Verify the downloads first.

Ace.

PS. please dont reply to me personally. send replies to the mail list.

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Re: mplayer error: undefined symbol: faacDecOpen

[Adam Funk]

On 2006-05-16, Adam Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2006-05-15, Jérôme Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I think the problem is here : libavcodec1 and libavcodec2 are not
>> official and not in the Marillat's repositry ! I think you must remove
>> them and it will work.
>
> I've purged them, then purged libabcodeccvs and libavcodeccvs51, then
> reinstalled mplayer, and I still get the same error.  I 
...
> I can't think of anywhere else to look for the problem.

I eventually solved this problem by purging the following packages

  faad libavcodeccvs51 libavutilcvs0 libavutilcvs49 libfaad2-0
  libpostproccvs51 mencoder mozilla-mplayer mplayer

and reinstalling mplayer, mencoder, mozilla-player and faad.  The
mplayer command works again.  Mysterious!


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Debina Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Robert J. A. Fernandes.]

Dear Sir,

 

I have downloaded DVD ISO Images files from this below
location: -

 

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-dvd/

 

in this section the file size its shows
4.4G for debian-31r2-i386-binary-1, but when I am downloading it give me 372MB
and for the another file debian-31r2-i386-binary-2 it shows 4.1G but when I downloads
it gives me 127MB.

 

So is this file ok or has to be correct 4
GB? I have doubt just because of this sizes. And is it according to above MB’s
then even I can burn on normal 700MB CD’s right? So what’s the meaning of DVD
ISO Files? I didn’t get?

 

Please help me.

 

Regards,

 

Robert

Re: Debian Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Mihira Fernando]

Robert J. A. Fernandes. wrote:


I have downloaded DVD ISO Images files from this below location: -

 


http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-dvd/

 


in this section the file size its shows 4.4G for
debian-31r2-i386-binary-1, but when I am downloading it give me 372MB
and for the another file debian-31r2-i386-binary-2 it shows 4.1G but
when I downloads it gives me 127MB.
Better check your internet connection. Most likely yor downloading timed 
out and left you with a partial download. Use the check sum given in the 
site to see if you have the complete file.


 


So is this file ok or has to be correct 4 GB? I have doubt just because
of this sizes. And is it according to above MB's then even I can burn on
normal 700MB CD's right? 

Wrong. You cannot burn a DVD image on a CD. it wont work.

So what's the meaning of DVD ISO Files? I

didn't get?

These are image files of the DVD. you create a DVD using this ISO file.

what is an ISO file - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660

how to burn an ISO image : 
http://www.petri.co.il/how_to_write_iso_files_to_cd.htm (this is for 
windows users)


Ace.
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Re: wake-on-lan

[Christian Pernegger]

> [...] I can remotely wake the box if I shut it down  before it boots
> Linux, but it doesn't work if I shut it down when Linux is running.

I had the same problem, as do many others according to Google.

1) Check if WoL is on using

# ethtool eth0

There should be a 'g' in the Wake-On: line. If there is not you'll have 
to run


# ethtool -s eth0 wol g

every time you reboot the machine. If this does not work ...

2) The problem in my case was that the driver turned off the NIC 
completely during shutdown, so it lost its link to the switch (check the 
LEDs) and the ability to wake up.


In my case (an Intel Desktop Gigabit NIC with the e1000 driver) 
compiling the newer GPL driver from the Intel web site out-of-tree 
worked nicely. (You just need the headers or full source of your kernel 
accessible as /usr/src/linux)


Remember to update the initrd, if you use one, otherwise the old driver 
will be loaded on boot. (Check dmesg)


I filed a bug on WoL not working, please add your experience there - 
maybe someone in the kernel team will look at it if more people complain :)


http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=368399

Cheers

C.


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Debian Installation ISO DVD Image Files

[Robert J. A. Fernandes.]

 









From: Robert J. A.
Fernandes. 
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006
11:38 AM
To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org'
Subject: Debina Installation ISO
DVD Image Files



 

Dear Sir,

 

I have downloaded DVD ISO Images files from this below
location: -

 

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r2/i386/iso-dvd/

 

in this section the file size its shows
4.4G for debian-31r2-i386-binary-1, but when I am downloading it give me 372MB
and for the another file debian-31r2-i386-binary-2 it shows 4.1G but when I
downloads it gives me 127MB.

 

So is this file ok or has to be correct 4
GB? I have doubt just because of this sizes. And is it according to above
MB’s then even I can burn on normal 700MB CD’s right? So
what’s the meaning of DVD ISO Files? I didn’t get?

 

Please help me.

 

Regards,

 

Robert

Re: running backup

[Ron Johnson]

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Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 13:56:39 +0800, Jon  Miller wrote:
>> I have a file that I want to run daily to backup data.  
>>This tgz file then needs to be copied to a Windows 2003 server.
>>I'm using smbclient, but it does not seem to work thru the script.
>>Can someone point out where the problem lies.  I run this as a
>>cron job as follows:
>> 30 19 * * 1,2,3,4,5 root /root/rubybackup.sh
>>
>> The script is as follows:
>> #!/bin/sh
>> # script to automate the backup of the Ruby server to the W2K3 server
>> #
>> DAY=`date +'%a-%d-%m-%y'`
>> BACKUPDIR=/backup
>> RUBYLIVE=/var/lib/mysql/
>>
>> cd $RUBYLIVE
>> tar -czvf /backup/rubylive${DAY}.tgz ./rubylive
>>
>> cd $BACKUPDIR
>> smbclient //server/backup tfc651800 -U administrator
>> put rubylive${DAY}.tgz
> 
> The recommended procedure for smbclient in scripts is to use the -c
> option for the command string. In your case that would probably be
> something like
> 
> smbclient //server/backup tfc651800 -U administrator -c "put 
> rubylive${DAY}.tgz; exit"
> 
> Is it really necessary to use the administrator account for pushing a
> backup file to the server?

Windows has functional non-Administrator accounts??  :\

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Re: Free SWF to AVI converter for Sarge

[Siju George]

On 5/30/06, J.A. de Vries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 2006-05-30 @ 11:34:37 (week 22) Siju George wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is there any Free SWF to AVI converter for Debian Sarge Linux?

Take a look at ffmpeg. I regularly use it to convert clips to a format
that suits me better. Works like a charm.



Thankyou so much for the reply Vries :-)

It seems ffmpeg does not support the SWF format.

---
# ffmpeg -i PicturePerfect_can.swf -target vcd PicturePerfect_can.avi
ffmpeg version 0.4.9-pre1, build 4747, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard
 configuration:  --build i386-linux --enable-gpl --enable-pp
--enable-zlib --enable-vorbis --enable-a52 --enable-dts
--disable-debug --prefix=/usr
 built on Mar  8 2006 21:32:15, gcc: 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-13)
PicturePerfect_can.swf: Unknown format
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Thankyou so much

Kind Regards

Siju


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Re: Free SWF to AVI converter for Sarge

[Siju George]

On 5/30/06, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:34:37AM +0530, Siju George wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there any Free SWF to AVI converter for Debian Sarge Linux?

You can get mencoder from debian-multimedia.org.
--


Thankyou so much Carl for the info. It seems mencoder doesnot support
the SWF format.
Or did I do something wrong? Please see the output below.

-
# mencoder PicturePerfect_can.swf o=PicturePerfect_can.avi
MEncoder dev-CVS--3.3.5 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Sempron/Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred; Duron
Applebred (Family: 6, Stepping: 1)
MMX2 supported but disabled
3DNow supported but disabled
3DNowExt supported but disabled
CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX SSE


Exiting... (No output file specified, please see the -o option)
devsrv:/var/misc/Sandya-mm# man mencoder
Reformatting mencoder(1), please wait...
devsrv:/var/misc/Sandya-mm# mencoder PicturePerfect_can.swf -o
PicturePerfect_can.avi
MEncoder dev-CVS--3.3.5 (C) 2000-2006 MPlayer Team
CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Sempron/Athlon MP/XP Thoroughbred; Duron
Applebred (Family: 6, Stepping: 1)
MMX2 supported but disabled
3DNow supported but disabled
3DNowExt supported but disabled
CPUflags: Type: 6 MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX SSE

success: format: 0  data: 0x0 - 0x10d96e
libavformat file format detected.
[swf @ 0x405a1860]Compressed SWF format not supported
LAVF_header: av_open_input_stream() failed
libavformat file format detected.
[swf @ 0x405a1860]Compressed SWF format not supported
LAVF_header: av_open_input_stream() failed
 Sorry, this file format is not recognized/supported =
=== If this file is an AVI, ASF or MPEG stream, please contact the author! ===
Cannot open demuxer.

Exiting...
-

Thankyou so much

Kind regards

Siju


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Re: Which is the most stable desktop?

[Andrei Popescu]

Žáček Kryštof <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  
> Windows XP ?

And of course you had to top-post :)

IceWM-Experimental!!!

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Re: my fonts changed

[Pooly]

2006/5/31, cga2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:06:22PM EDT, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * Pooly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006 May 30 16:25 -0500]:
>
> > >Maybe this will help?
> > >
> > >http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=367593
> > >
> >
> >
> > I changed my .fonts.conf to the one in the bug report, and that's much
> > nicer.
> > Many thanks for this pointer !
>
> I've tried so many things over the past couple of weeks that I have
> things so screwed up that it doesn't even seem to respond to changes
> anymore.  Joy, joy, joy!
>
> Hoefully someone will fix this so that my fonts can look better than
> those on the Winbox at work again...
>
> - Nate >>

Could you be a bit more specific - what fonts are posing a problem.. or
maybe I should say "where"..?

In other words, assuming you are using mozilla and have it open in a
full screen window - that's purely and example - you should be able to
see at least three "categories" of fonts:

1. The "content" fonts used to display web pages
2. The "widget" fonts used to display mozilla's menus & dialogs
3. The "window manager" fonts - title-bar.. menus.. etc.

Or maybe you could put up a screenshot somewhere - probably more
productive than trying to discuss these aspects via mail?



As far as I was concerned, all fonts were screwed. On the initial bug
report, there is two screenshots attached and it was absolutely
reflecting my problem (font hardly readable, and content, widget and
window manager). (I would have done the same screenshots).




Thanks,

cga

P.S. I spent about two months getting my fonts right in debian after
migrating from redhat..


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Re: running backup

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 13:56:39 +0800, Jon  Miller wrote:
> I have a file that I want to run daily to backup data.  This tgz file then 
> needs to be copied to a Windows 2003 server.  I'm using smbclient, but it 
> does not seem to work thru the script.  Can someone point out where the 
> problem lies.  I run this as a cron job as follows:
> 30 19 * * 1,2,3,4,5 root /root/rubybackup.sh
> 
> The script is as follows:
> #!/bin/sh
> # script to automate the backup of the Ruby server to the W2K3 server
> #
> DAY=`date +'%a-%d-%m-%y'`
> BACKUPDIR=/backup
> RUBYLIVE=/var/lib/mysql/
> 
> cd $RUBYLIVE
> tar -czvf /backup/rubylive${DAY}.tgz ./rubylive
> 
> cd $BACKUPDIR
> smbclient //server/backup tfc651800 -U administrator
> put rubylive${DAY}.tgz

The recommended procedure for smbclient in scripts is to use the -c
option for the command string. In your case that would probably be
something like

smbclient //server/backup tfc651800 -U administrator -c "put 
rubylive${DAY}.tgz; exit"

Is it really necessary to use the administrator account for pushing a
backup file to the server?

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RE: Which is the most stable desktop?

[Žáček Kryštof]

 
Windows XP ?

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Which is the most stable desktop?

Please do not start a Flame-War !!!  --  It is fvwm!  ;-)

Am 2006-05-24 08:56:53, schrieb Joseph Smidt:
> Which desktop is the most stable: gnome, kde, xfce, blackbox etc... ?
> 
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Re: Vs: Re: Help still needed installing debian

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 09:22:06 +0700, Mihira Fernando wrote:
> Joni Lahtinen wrote:
> 
> >Where I might get those drivers? Is right modul at1500, if is I do not 
> >have it?
> >
> 
> I believe the debian installer already have the driver for this one. 
> Check the list of available drivers.

I think the module for the AT1500 is called "lance".

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