Moving to a new disk on Debian with root filesystem on LVM over encryption mini-HOWTO

[Babstar]

Moving to a new disk on Debian system with root Filesystem on LVM over 
encryption mini-HOWTO

Babstar
August 2007,

Thanks to the Debian team for all your hard work & great software.

Current setup
I used the standard Etch installer to setup and encrypted disk for my 
laptop.  However, I now want to move to a bigger hard disk, without 
having to reinstall the system.  In this mini howto I will show you how 
I did it.  I will try and make it as generic as possible. However, 
following this recipe exactly will not work unless you have a similar 
set up.  You will need to examine your own system and make modifications 
as applicable.
This technique could even be used to change the passphrase of an 
encrypted disk as it makes a straight copy. It could also create a 
bootable system on a USB external drive (provided your system can boot 
off external media), although there are other HOWTO's floating around 
that will probably be more helpful.
The basis of my method is to copy data to & modify the new disk only, 
leaving the original installed system on the old disk pristine. This is 
conservative, giving us both backup & reversion capability.  
Having the root filesystem on LVM over encryption complicates the the 
move as it requires an initramfs image to boot. However one of the 
limitations of LVM is it prevents us using the same volume-group name 
twice (which is logical). Unfortunately the update-initramfs script hard 
codes the LVM root filesystem volume group into the initramfs image, but 
we will need to change LVM volume groups for the new system in the 
intramfs image for it to be bootable.  We will have to manually unpack, 
modify the hard coded root LVM volume group & repack our initramfs image 
so we can boot the new disk. 
I developed this method using a virtualbox debian virtual machine, 
installing a system that replicated my laptop's. This allowed me to 
practice everything without leaving my real system unbootable.  I would 
highly recommend a run through on a virtual machine as practice, as this 
is a complex procedure.  Any mistakes along the way can be fatal to your 
system.
I would also recommend reading the Hard disk upgrade mini HOWTO.  If you 
don't understand the LVM commands take a close look at the LVM HOWTO.


This HOWTO is debian centric, however it should provide enough hints for 
other ditro's. I am just a user, documenting the steps I took to move my 
data. I'm sure there are easier methods & any suggestions or 
improvements would be welcomed.  If it is useful to people, perhaps it 
could be included in the debian documentation.  Please feel free to 
copy, modify & use it as you see fit.


Disclaimer: Use of the following information may destroy your data, hard 
drive, cause spontaneous combustion of your computer & possibly 
impregnate your dog.  Use at your own risk, I take absolutely no 
responsibility for any loss or damage.

Having said all that, it worked for me :)

In brief, the step to moving the data to a new disk are:
1) Working out your disk layout
2) preparing a new disk
3) Copy your data
4) Rebuild initramfs image
5) Modify fstab, initramfs-tools & crypttab config
6) Install grub on your new disk MBR
7) Swap disks
8) Post move clean-up
9) Enjoy the new roominess!

1) Disk Layout
The Etch installer put the original system on two partitions, the first  
being a small unencrypted boot partition (hda1), while everything else 
is on a larger LVM over encrypted partition (hda5).
Working out exactly how your encrypted setup is configured is the one of 
the hardest parts of the procedure.  dmsetup can help us here:

# dmsetup status
vg01-home: 0 25165824 linear
vg01-tmp: 0 1638400 linear
vg01-swap: 0 3072000 linear
vg01-usr: 0 13631488 linear
vg01-root: 0 1024000 linear
vg01-var: 0 4194304 linear
hda5_crypt: 0 58209881 crypt

Together with fstab (or mount) we can work out how things fit together.  
Here is an extract from my /etc/fstab
/dev/mapper/vg01-root /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 
0   1

/dev/hda1 /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/vg01-home /home   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/vg01-tmp  /tmpext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/vg01-usr  /usrext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/vg01-var  /varext3defaults0   2
/dev/mapper/vg01-swap noneswapsw  0   0


So, in my case, things are arranged as
/   logical volume vg01-root over encrypted disk hda5_crypt
/boot   hda1
/home   logical volume vg01-home over encrypted disk hda5_crypt
/tmplogical volume vg01-tmp over encrypted disk hda5_crypt
/usrlogical volume vg01-usr over encrypted disk hda5_crypt
/varlogical volume vg01-var over encrypted disk hda5_crypt
swaplogical volume vg01-swap over encrypted disk hda5_crypt

This is how I visualize my disk being arranged:

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Missing /lib/modules/2.6.18-4-686/build

[jupiter . hce]

Hi,

I am building a win modem source code which requires 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-4-686/build. I could not find the build in my 
/lib/modules/2.6.18-4-686 directory. What am I missing, and where can I 
get the build from?


Thank you.

Jim


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source code installation

[jupiter . hce]

Hi,

I've installed Debian 4.0 from a CD, just found that the installation 
does not let me to select applications. Mow I have to install an 
application from the CD (I don't have a network connection, a win modem 
has not worked yet ...)


1. Which openoffice in the CD I should install? Is the command like:

apt-get install openoffice

from /mnt/cdrom/debian/pool/main/o/openoffice.org?

2. I need to install some lib source code to build win modem code
Now I have to remove all games (as I've got limited space), how can I do it?

3. Due to limited space, I need to remove some packages I don't need 
such as games, how do I know which package I installed are for games?


Thank you.

Jim


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Re: flac and wav

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Would have if I could have! But it wasn't a cd. It was an old cassette
>> tape feeding into the sound card, captured with ReZound.

> There are *definitely* ways to do that with Linux.  Someone asks
> every 4-6 months on this list.  Record players, not cassette
> players, but the concept is the same.

When ripping cassette tapes, I do:
- use sox's "rec" to record a wav file of the whole side of a tape.
- open the wav in `audacity' to visually find the spots that separate
  one song from another, writing down the second at which they occur.
  I generally check the timestamps I write down by comparing them to
  the "official" duration of each song.
- run `wavsplit' passing it the timestamps I just wrote down.
- rename the resulting wav files (so the name reflects the title,
  tracknumber, ...).
- pass them through a `for' loop that compresses them with oggenc.


Stefan


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Re: How to add dir to path

[Carl Johnson]

This is to the list this time, instead of a direct reply  -- Sorry!

"Manon Metten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 1.  (*) text/plain  ( ) text/html   
> 
> Hi Andrei,
> 
> On 8/10/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Just look at your .bash_profile:
> >
> > # ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells.
> 
> 
> 
> And in .bashrc I find:
> 
>  # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.
> 
> 
> So this is my conclusion:
> Whenever I open a new bash window, .bash_profile is executed,
> coz bash is invoked as: /bin/bash --login.
> 
> On the other hand, when I open a new session, obviously there's
> no need to invoke it as /bin/bash --login and thus .bashrc is executed.
> 
> 
> I found a very useful link to learn more about shells:
> http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/shell-scripting/ch02.html
> 
> 
> Thanks for your response, Manon.

Sorry for getting into this so late, but I just realized that I used a
completely different solution.  The .xsession file is used to
initialize the [gxk]dm session, so any environment variables can go
in there.  In my case I had enough variables I didn't want to duplicate
.bash_profile and .xsession, so I put all of them in another file I
called .bash_env.  Then in both .bash_profile and .xsession I put
the following code:

if [ -r ~/.bash_env ]
then
. ~/.bash_env   # read in all environment variables
fi

That way I can get the same environment from both a regular login or
xterm window.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Eclipse: Fills my memory and does not start

[Takehiko Abe]

Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:

> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ eclipse
> searching for compatible vm...
>   testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found
> GC Warning: Repeated allocation of very large block (appr. size 
262144000):

> May lead to memory leak and poor performance.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>
> 

There is a bug #434484 filed against gij-4.1. It seems that the fix is
on the way (in the form of glibc update), but it hasn't reached to the
mirror I'm using yet.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=434484


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2007-08-12 00:57:22 +0100, William Pursell wrote:
> Here is a method for doing a timeout.  I'm not arguing against
> the claim that sh is limited, nor am I claiming that the method
> presented here is robust (it doesn't work well if the function
> has already completed, for example), but this certainly demonstrates
> that it is possible to execute a command with a timeout.
[...]

The timeout function keeps waiting even after the command has completed
(when it has completed before the timeout, which is the normal case),
and this is a real efficiency problem. Of course, I think that one can
replace your "sleep $timeout" by a loop that would poll every second,
but this is rather inelegant and possibly inefficient. Moreover, there
is a possible race condition; I suppose that this can also be solved by
trapping SIGCHLD.

Also, if one wants to interrupt the script by Ctrl-C for instance,
this doesn't work well (the command is not killed).

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Eclipse: Fills my memory and does not start

[Jose Luis Rivas Contreras]

Hi,

I installed eclipse in my machine and wen I run it says:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ eclipse
searching for compatible vm...
  testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found
GC Warning: Repeated allocation of very large block (appr. size 262144000):
May lead to memory leak and poor performance.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$



Then, if I don't kill the process or press Ctrl-D fast enough fills my
memory completely and doesn't start. It's not like my system needs RAM,
I have 2GB of DDR2 and a Intel Duo 2 Core so...

BTW, there's no overload in my CPU or something like that...

I tried with `ulimit -S 1024' thinking was the block size but didn't
work out.

I have `sun-java6-{jdk,jre,bin}' in unstable.

Anyone experienced this and got it running?

Regards,
Jose Luis.
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temporary failure. Command output: /usr/bin/maildrop: Home directory owned by wrong user.

[jaYPee]

Hi to all.

I have setup my mail server but having this problem after installing
maildrop. If I will not use maildrop in main.cf the problem has gone.
In my main.cf this is the line I have added to work with maildrop.

home_mailbox = Maildir/
mailbox_command = /usr/bin/maildrop
#mailbox_command = procmail -t -a "$EXTENSION"

The problem temporary failure. Command output: /usr/bin/maildrop: Home
directory owned by wrong user occur only on root account. But the
other email account doesnt have a problem. If I will not use maildrop
I can not use squirrelmail also to access my mail server. I dont know
how to use procmail thats why I commented it and used maildrop. There
are some cron that are running that sends message to the root account.
My option is either to disable sending of automatic message to root
account or solve this weird problem.

Anyone having this problem too?

Please help.

thanks


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Re: Scribus with acentuation

[Jose Paulo Matafome Oleiro]

Sáb, 2007-08-11 às 22:35 +0200, Florian Kulzer escreveu:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 22:49:32 +0100, Jose Paulo Matafome Oleiro wrote:
> > Hello to all.
> > I've got a problem with Scribus, when I write text like é or ã this
> > doesn't appear how it should be, it looks like 'e or ã how I can fix
> > this? Anyone can help me? My keyboard layout it's portuguese, where we
> > use too often acentuation in words.
> 
> I assume you use deadkeys or a compose key to type these accented
> characters? I have the impression that Scribus ignores these X keyboard
> layout settings. However, it seems to be possible to copy/paste such
> accented characters into the input window of Scribus, or to read the
> text from a file. (I checked this on a UTF-8 locale.)
> 

Hi there Florian thanks for your tip, I've found a workaround for that.
If I create a text box, then right click in the text box and choose edit
text, Scribus opens up a less advanced editor, but that allows to put
acentuation in the letters.
That's annoying but works.

Thanks again =)

Sincerely
José Oleiro


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Re: Help - touchpad not working

[Krzysztof Lubański]

On Sun, 2007-08-12 at 04:50 +0530, Rahul Samuel wrote:
> I have been trying to install linux in my HP 500 laptop but all have
> failed. I last installed the Debian 4 and this also doesnt work.
> Please help. 
>  
> Everything goes fine, but when the GUI comes up my touch pad doesnt
> work at all. After installation also the touchpad is probably not even
> detected. [...]

Hello.

The guys at Ubuntu say that it's a bug in the Linux kernel:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/96598

Ubuntu has an updated 2.6.20 kernel now that corrects this issue. If
you're using Debian 4.0 Etch (stable), though, the latest version you
can "officially" install is 2.6.18-4. But the patch should have been
applied to version 2.6.21 that's available in Debian's testing
repository. You can try installing this package, e.g. from:

ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.21-2-686_2.6.21-6_i386.deb

Just download and install it, then reboot and select the new kernel -
you should see a new boot option.

If it doesn't help, you'll be able to boot the previous kernel and
remove the new one - so don't worry, the whole thing won't hurt your
system.

Anyway, this is easier then the ugly hack mentioned at the first link
above.

Good luck!

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Re: Help - touchpad not working

[Jeff]

Is this an HP *Ominbook* 500?  Whatever it is. Google will help you 
locate whatever help is available (tuxmobil.org would be a gpod resource 
also.  But, if you're really a newbie, your life would be much easier if 
you first serious Linux experience was on a desktop system.  Laptops are 
almost always much more challenging.


Good luck,
Jeff

Rahul Samuel wrote:

Hey
 
I have been trying to install linux in my HP 500 laptop but all have 
failed. I last installed the Debian 4 and this also doesnt work. Please 
help.
 
Everything goes fine, but when the GUI comes up my touch pad doesnt work 
at all. After installation also the touchpad is probably not even 
detected. I cant even go through the OS with my keyboard, so the only 
thing I can do is shutdown. Please help, I'm not very familiar with 
linux but want to switch from windows. Please give me in detail how to 
get my touchpad working am almost a newbie.
 
Thanks a ton.
 
Sam



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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[William Pursell]

Vincent Lefevre wrote:



Not every system has bash. If this is for compatibility, you can learn
POSIX sh, but e.g. Solaris /bin/sh is not a POSIX sh. For this reason
and because POSIX sh is limited (you can't execute a command and have
a timeout on it),


Here is a method for doing a timeout.  I'm not arguing against
the claim that sh is limited, nor am I claiming that the method
presented here is robust (it doesn't work well if the function
has already completed, for example), but this certainly demonstrates
that it is possible to execute a command with a timeout.

#!/bin/sh

# A function which never completes.
foo() {
echo "Never returns! $$"
while true; do
sleep 1;
done
}

# Execute the commands with the specified timeout.
timeout() {
local timeout=$1
shift
local cmd=$@
echo $cmd
$cmd &
sleep $timeout
kill %%
}

# Execute foo, but terminate it after 1 second.
timeout 1 foo


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Help - touchpad not working

[Rahul Samuel]

Hey

I have been trying to install linux in my HP 500 laptop but all have failed.
I last installed the Debian 4 and this also doesnt work. Please help.

Everything goes fine, but when the GUI comes up my touch pad doesnt work at
all. After installation also the touchpad is probably not even detected. I
cant even go through the OS with my keyboard, so the only thing I can do is
shutdown. Please help, I'm not very familiar with linux but want to switch
from windows. Please give me in detail how to get my touchpad working am
almost a newbie.

Thanks a ton.

Sam

Re: flac and wav

[Ron Johnson]

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On 08/11/07 14:42, Adam Hardy wrote:
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> 
> Would have if I could have! But it wasn't a cd. It was an old cassette
> tape feeding into the sound card, captured with ReZound.

There are *definitely* ways to do that with Linux.  Someone asks
every 4-6 months on this list.  Record players, not cassette
players, but the concept is the same.

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Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Re: Weird cron behavior

[Frank McCormick]

Damn! 10 seconds after I wrote the mail below I did sudo crontab -l
and got:

0-59 5 * * * sudo aptitude update

How the he** did that get into there?? Would it be part of a cron or
anacron update??




On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:56:49 -0400
Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:42:29 -0600
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote:
> 
> > Frank McCormick wrote:
> > > I left my machine on overnight ( I usually don't )  and got these
> > > messages in my mail this morning:
> > > 
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sudo aptitude update
> > 
> > You must have a crontab entry that says "sudo aptitude update".
> > 
> 
>Nope...nothing like that.
>
> > > It seems cron ran once a minute starting at 5:00 AM and
> > > ending at 5:59 AM .apparently doing the same thing over and
> > > over.
> > 
> > Sounds like a bad time spec in your crontab.
> > 
> > 
> > > I havn't added or changed anything --
> > > I am sunning Sid
> > 
> > 
> >   $ sudo crontab -l
> > 
> >   $ find /etc/cron.* -type f -exec grep "aptitude.*update" {} +


This still comes up empty.
> 
>  Comes up empty...i.e. nothing returned. I'll have to leave it on
> overnight again and see what happens. I guess with Sid, anything is
> possible.

Frank
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Re: nfs mounts no longer work in testing after upgrade (fwd)

[Justin Piszcz]

The fix is to make sure you have fsid=0 in the /etc/exports for the (root) 
partition of whatever you are mounting.


On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Justin Piszcz wrote:


Submitted this bug.

Looking to see how to mount it with the new version, anyone else run into 
this yet?


http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/7317692.html

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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: nfs mounts no longer work in testing after upgrade

Package: nfs-kernel-server
Version: 1.1.0-11

Running: Debian Testing
Kernel: 2.6.22

After apt-get upgrade, NFS no longer works:

[ 2059.998309] nfs: server p34 not responding, still trying
[ 2289.314682] nfs: server l2 not responding, still trying

Aug 11 18:06:27 p34 mountd[6828]: Cannot export /, possibly unsupported 
filesystem or fsid= required
Aug 11 18:06:26 l2 mountd[1825]: Cannot export /, possibly unsupported 
filesystem or fsid= required


I am reading the new docs now but in Debian are things like this supposed to 
just break or should there be a warning about them in the changelog/etc-- or 
did I miss it?


Justin.


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Re: Weird cron behavior

[Frank McCormick]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:42:29 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote:

> Frank McCormick wrote:
> > I left my machine on overnight ( I usually don't )  and got these
> > messages in my mail this morning:
> > 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sudo aptitude update
> 
> You must have a crontab entry that says "sudo aptitude update".
> 

   Nope...nothing like that.
   
> > It seems cron ran once a minute starting at 5:00 AM and
> > ending at 5:59 AM .apparently doing the same thing over and
> > over.
> 
> Sounds like a bad time spec in your crontab.
> 
> 
> > I havn't added or changed anything --
> > I am sunning Sid
> 
> How can you say with a straight face that nothing has changed and yet
> also say that you are running Sid?
> 


I didn't say nothing has changed...I said *I* haven't added or
changed anything...specifically the crontab(s) :)


> > Anybody have any ideas ?
> 
>   $ sudo crontab -l
> 
>   $ find /etc/cron.* -type f -exec grep "aptitude.*update" {} +

 Comes up empty...i.e. nothing returned. I'll have to leave it on
overnight again and see what happens. I guess with Sid, anything is
possible.


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Re: Iceweasel file associations

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:14:20PM +, Steven wrote:
 
> How can I change this behavior to "Just show me the $#%*'in file as plain 
> text in a browser tab"?

This was discussed just recently on this list.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/08/msg00097.html

Regards,
Andrei
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nfs mounts no longer work in testing after upgrade (fwd)

[Justin Piszcz]

Submitted this bug.

Looking to see how to mount it with the new version, anyone else run into 
this yet?


http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/7317692.html

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Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:53:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Justin Piszcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: nfs mounts no longer work in testing after upgrade

Package: nfs-kernel-server
Version: 1.1.0-11

Running: Debian Testing
Kernel: 2.6.22

After apt-get upgrade, NFS no longer works:

[ 2059.998309] nfs: server p34 not responding, still trying
[ 2289.314682] nfs: server l2 not responding, still trying

Aug 11 18:06:27 p34 mountd[6828]: Cannot export /, possibly unsupported 
filesystem or fsid= required
Aug 11 18:06:26 l2 mountd[1825]: Cannot export /, possibly unsupported 
filesystem or fsid= required


I am reading the new docs now but in Debian are things like this supposed to 
just break or should there be a warning about them in the changelog/etc-- or 
did I miss it?


Justin.


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Re: Can't install zlib1g-dev on etch?

[Mumia W..]

On 08/11/2007 01:46 PM, Eric Adum wrote:

What does your sources.list look like?



 # etch
deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

# security updates
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib

# unstable
deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ unstable non-free
deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ unstable non-free

And I also have the following /etc/apt/preferences file:

Package: *
Pin: release a=etch
Pin-Priority: 900
Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 800

I normally like to use stable, and only get packages from unstable if that
is the only way to get the features I require, using the "-t unstable" flag
when I apt-get install. Is this the best practice?



That's an acceptable way to do it.


Can you try this (as a simulation)?

apt-get -s install zlib1g=1:1.2.3-13 zlib1g-dev=1:1.2.3-13



I got some rather scary looking output from that; it appears that I'd have
to downgrade zlib1g to install the -dev package? Output:
[...]


What version of zlib1g is already installed?
What version of zlib1g-dev are you trying to install?
What is the exact command that you use to try to install zlib1g-dev?

Note that apt-get should want to try to install the version of 
zlib1g-dev that corresponds to the installed version of zlib1g.


Perhaps the output of these commands would be helpful too (although the 
information should be redundant):


apt-cache policy zlib1g zlib1g-dev
apt-cache showpkg zlib1g | head
apt-cache showpkg zlib1g-dev | head


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Re: Java has stopped working (Partially SOLVED)

[Marc Shapiro]

Alex Samad wrote:

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 01:46:46PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
  

John W. Foster wrote:


On Saturday 11 August 2007 00:09, Marc Shapiro wrote:
  
  

I just realized that java is no longer functioning on my up-to-date Etch
system.  I had installed Sun Java using java-package and it had been
working at the time.  I don't run java all that much, so I don't know
just when it stopped working, but it is not working now.  I have used
the test on Sun's site and it does not find my installation.  JAVA_HOME
had been set to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun.  When Sun's own site could not
find my installation I decided that it was time to uninstall and
reinstall fresh.  I ran:

aptitude remove sun_j2sdk1.5

aptitude suggested installing what appears to be Debian java packages to
replace the Sun package.  I agreed and the installation seemed to go
smoothly, but I am still unable to run java packages, from Sun's site,
or others.  Do I need a plugin of some sort?  When I tried to install
sun-java5-plugin aptitude wanted to install Iceweasle.  Since I am
happily running Firefox 2.0 I do not want to install Iceweasle.  How do
I get around this?

Can someone tell me what I might be missing, or point me in the right
direction?

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try removing any debian packages with 'gcj' as part of the name for 
examplegcj; or any app named something-gcj. I ahve run into some conflicts 
with that recently. If that fixes the problem then there is most likely a 
bug in gcj, which I have not reported, since I was not certain it existed.
  
  

I don't have any 'gcj' packages installed.

I don't want to install Iceweasle.  I am happy with my upstream Firefox.

I Think that I have a partial answer to the problem, but I don't seem to be 
able to implement it -- There was no java plugin in my .mozilla/plugins 
directory.  I made a link to the plugin in 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.10/jre/plugins but that made no 
difference.  I then tried linking to the plugin in /usr/lib/firefox.  This 
time, the check for java on Sun's site found my installation, but said that 
I don't have the correct version of java installed, so I downloaded the new 
.bin file and tried to use make-jpkg on it, but I got the following 
message:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ make-jpkg jre-6u2-linux-i586.bin



you should not need to do this all the packages need are in the main debian 
repos.


another tool to use to check when there are problems with java (because of the 
different versions installed) update-alternatives, check ls -l 
/etc/alternatives | egrep java\|jvm\|sun 
  
I shouldn't need to, but if you check what I said previously (2nd 
paragraph of original post), I installed the Debian packages but that 
did not help, even after I added the link to the plugin.


What I ended up doing was to simply install Sun's java package without 
creating a Debian package and then updated my JAVA_HOME environment 
variable and the link to the plugin.  This now has java working, but I 
also need to have the Debian packages installed to satisfy the 
dependancies of Debian's OOo packages.


Is it possible to uninstall the Debian java packages (i.e. sun-java5-jre 
and its dependancies) without messing up my OOo installation?


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Iceweasel file associations

[Steven]

As much as I really don't like it Iceweasel has some preconceived notions 
about how to open files based upon their filename extension.  
Specifically I'm thinking with respect to .c and .patch files, though 
others may apply.  The problem is that Iceweasel wants to open these 
files with less which never happens successfully.  Most often, when I'm 
trying to view the files in the web browser, it's because I want quick 
access for copy and paste.  When the requester appears asking how I would 
like to open the file I have tried to manually direct it to /usr/lib/
iceweasel/iceweasel and firefox-bin.  Both result in the creation of a 
new tab on the active window and the reappearance of the requester asking 
me how I'd like to open the file.

How can I change this behavior to "Just show me the $#%*'in file as plain 
text in a browser tab"?


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Re: Java has stopped working

[Alex Samad]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 01:46:46PM -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> John W. Foster wrote:
>> On Saturday 11 August 2007 00:09, Marc Shapiro wrote:
>>   
>>> I just realized that java is no longer functioning on my up-to-date Etch
>>> system.  I had installed Sun Java using java-package and it had been
>>> working at the time.  I don't run java all that much, so I don't know
>>> just when it stopped working, but it is not working now.  I have used
>>> the test on Sun's site and it does not find my installation.  JAVA_HOME
>>> had been set to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun.  When Sun's own site could not
>>> find my installation I decided that it was time to uninstall and
>>> reinstall fresh.  I ran:
>>>
>>> aptitude remove sun_j2sdk1.5
>>>
>>> aptitude suggested installing what appears to be Debian java packages to
>>> replace the Sun package.  I agreed and the installation seemed to go
>>> smoothly, but I am still unable to run java packages, from Sun's site,
>>> or others.  Do I need a plugin of some sort?  When I tried to install
>>> sun-java5-plugin aptitude wanted to install Iceweasle.  Since I am
>>> happily running Firefox 2.0 I do not want to install Iceweasle.  How do
>>> I get around this?
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what I might be missing, or point me in the right
>>> direction?
>>>
>>> --
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 
>> ---
>> try removing any debian packages with 'gcj' as part of the name for 
>> examplegcj; or any app named something-gcj. I ahve run into some conflicts 
>> with that recently. If that fixes the problem then there is most likely a 
>> bug in gcj, which I have not reported, since I was not certain it existed.
>>   
> I don't have any 'gcj' packages installed.
>
> I don't want to install Iceweasle.  I am happy with my upstream Firefox.
>
> I Think that I have a partial answer to the problem, but I don't seem to be 
> able to implement it -- There was no java plugin in my .mozilla/plugins 
> directory.  I made a link to the plugin in 
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.10/jre/plugins but that made no 
> difference.  I then tried linking to the plugin in /usr/lib/firefox.  This 
> time, the check for java on Sun's site found my installation, but said that 
> I don't have the correct version of java installed, so I downloaded the new 
> .bin file and tried to use make-jpkg on it, but I got the following 
> message:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ make-jpkg jre-6u2-linux-i586.bin

you should not need to do this all the packages need are in the main debian 
repos.

another tool to use to check when there are problems with java (because of the 
different versions installed) update-alternatives, check ls -l 
/etc/alternatives | egrep java\|jvm\|sun 

> Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.DzAQSZ8011
> Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh 
> ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk-doc.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh 
> sun-j2sdk-doc.sh sun-j2sdk.sh
>
> Detected Debian build architecture: i386
> Detected Debian GNU type: i486-linux-gnu
>
> No matching plugin was found.
> Removing temporary directory: done
>
>
> What do I need to do to make a debian package that I can install so that I 
> can remove the unworking packages without uninstalling all of Debian's 
> OO.org which insists on having java installed?
>
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Re: correct kernel for etch - i386 - intel celeron

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 09:51:02PM +0100, slink wrote:
 
> >   From what I remember, the installer lets you choose one of these
> > versions:
> > 
> >   * 686 (optimized for Pentiums and Celerons)
> >   * K7 (optimized for AMD Athlons and Durons)
> >   * SMP versions of both (HyperThreading/multicore processors
> > etc., though these will run just fine if your box doesn't provide
> > Symmetric MultiProcessing)

There are no separate SMP versions. All Debian 686 kernels now support 
SMP.

> In the interests of providing the definitive answer I reinstalled to
> the choices point.
> 
> They were ...
> 
> linux-image-2.6.18-4-686

This is the good one.

> linux-image-2.6.18-4-486

This is the more generic kernel which should work with anything from 486 
upwards.

> linux-image-2.6-686
> linux-image-2.6-486

These are just convenient packages which assure you always run the 
latest kernel of your choice.

> So did I chose correctly before with linux-image-2.6-18-4-686 on the
> celeron 2.6?

There's no better choice from the precompiled kernels.

Regards,
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Re: Scribus with acentuation

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 22:49:32 +0100, Jose Paulo Matafome Oleiro wrote:
> Hello to all.
> I've got a problem with Scribus, when I write text like é or ã this
> doesn't appear how it should be, it looks like 'e or ã how I can fix
> this? Anyone can help me? My keyboard layout it's portuguese, where we
> use too often acentuation in words.

I assume you use deadkeys or a compose key to type these accented
characters? I have the impression that Scribus ignores these X keyboard
layout settings. However, it seems to be possible to copy/paste such
accented characters into the input window of Scribus, or to read the
text from a file. (I checked this on a UTF-8 locale.)

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Re: correct kernel for etch - i386 - intel celeron

[slink]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:09:38 +0200
Krzysztof Lubański <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 19:17 +0100, slink wrote:
> > I got a new pc, celeron 2.6. [...]
> > 
> > Using expert install you are presented with 4 choices of kernel but
> > no hint as to the differences.
> > 
> > I chose ... 
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
> > Linux skutter 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686
> > GNU/Linux
> > [...]
> 
>   Hi.
> 
>   From what I remember, the installer lets you choose one of these
> versions:
> 
>   * 686 (optimized for Pentiums and Celerons)
>   * K7 (optimized for AMD Athlons and Durons)
>   * SMP versions of both (HyperThreading/multicore processors
> etc., though these will run just fine if your box doesn't provide
> Symmetric MultiProcessing)
> 
> > I believe SMP stands for multi processor? [...]
> 
>   Yup, as above.
> 
> > could I have made a better choice, have I made the wrong choice?
> 
>   No better choice here, since you've chosen 686. If you compile the
> kernel yourself, though, you may choose Pentium-4 processor type. It
> will trigger optimizing the code for newer processors, like the one
> you have. "686" kernel from the official packages uses more
> general/older optimizations, I think, because it's meant for Pentium
> Pro upwards.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Krzysztof Lubanski
> 
> 

Thank you for the reply.

In the interests of providing the definitive answer I reinstalled to
the choices point.

They were ...

linux-image-2.6.18-4-686
linux-image-2.6.18-4-486
linux-image-2.6-686
linux-image-2.6-486

So did I chose correctly before with linux-image-2.6-18-4-686 on the
celeron 2.6?

del

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Re: Java has stopped working

[Marc Shapiro]

John W. Foster wrote:

On Saturday 11 August 2007 00:09, Marc Shapiro wrote:
  

I just realized that java is no longer functioning on my up-to-date Etch
system.  I had installed Sun Java using java-package and it had been
working at the time.  I don't run java all that much, so I don't know
just when it stopped working, but it is not working now.  I have used
the test on Sun's site and it does not find my installation.  JAVA_HOME
had been set to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun.  When Sun's own site could not
find my installation I decided that it was time to uninstall and
reinstall fresh.  I ran:

aptitude remove sun_j2sdk1.5

aptitude suggested installing what appears to be Debian java packages to
replace the Sun package.  I agreed and the installation seemed to go
smoothly, but I am still unable to run java packages, from Sun's site,
or others.  Do I need a plugin of some sort?  When I tried to install
sun-java5-plugin aptitude wanted to install Iceweasle.  Since I am
happily running Firefox 2.0 I do not want to install Iceweasle.  How do
I get around this?

Can someone tell me what I might be missing, or point me in the right
direction?

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]


---
try removing any debian packages with 'gcj' as part of the name for 
examplegcj; or any app named something-gcj. I ahve run into some conflicts 
with that recently. If that fixes the problem then there is most likely a bug 
in gcj, which I have not reported, since I was not certain it existed.
  

I don't have any 'gcj' packages installed.

I don't want to install Iceweasle.  I am happy with my upstream Firefox.

I Think that I have a partial answer to the problem, but I don't seem to 
be able to implement it -- There was no java plugin in my 
.mozilla/plugins directory.  I made a link to the plugin in 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.10/jre/plugins but that made no 
difference.  I then tried linking to the plugin in /usr/lib/firefox.  
This time, the check for java on Sun's site found my installation, but 
said that I don't have the correct version of java installed, so I 
downloaded the new .bin file and tried to use make-jpkg on it, but I got 
the following message:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ make-jpkg jre-6u2-linux-i586.bin
Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.DzAQSZ8011
Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh 
ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk-doc.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh 
sun-j2re.sh sun-j2sdk-doc.sh sun-j2sdk.sh


Detected Debian build architecture: i386
Detected Debian GNU type: i486-linux-gnu

No matching plugin was found.
Removing temporary directory: done


What do I need to do to make a debian package that I can install so that 
I can remove the unworking packages without uninstalling all of Debian's 
OO.org which insists on having java installed?


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Re: Weird cron behavior

[Bob Proulx]

Frank McCormick wrote:
> I left my machine on overnight ( I usually don't )  and got these
> messages in my mail this morning:
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sudo aptitude update

You must have a crontab entry that says "sudo aptitude update".

> It seems cron ran once a minute starting at 5:00 AM and
> ending at 5:59 AM .apparently doing the same thing over and over.

Sounds like a bad time spec in your crontab.

  # field descriptions
  # minute (0-59),
  #   hour (0-23),
  # day of the month (1-31),),
  #   month of year (1-12),
  # day of the week (0-6 with 0=Sunday).

Therefore the following would run once a minute.  This is only an
example based upon your report.

  * * * * * sudo aptitude update

> I havn't added or changed anything --
> I am sunning Sid

How can you say with a straight face that nothing has changed and yet
also say that you are running Sid?

> Anybody have any ideas ?

  $ sudo crontab -l

  $ find /etc/cron.* -type f -exec grep "aptitude.*update" {} +

Bob


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Re: Reboot loses LAN connection

[John K Masters]

On 14:45 Sat 11 Aug , Kent West wrote:
> John K Masters wrote:
>> Strange behaviour on my laptop. Not sure if it's hardware or OS. Running
>> unstable and apart from a couple of problems (solved) all has been well
>> until about 4 days ago. Since then if I reboot or shutdown  and do not
>> disconnect the power, either by switching off at the mains or physically
>> disconnecting the plug, the laptop loses it's LAN connection.
>>   
>
> Are you using DHCP or static addressing?
>
>
> What does "ifconfig" say ..
>
>before the reboot when the LAN's working
>
>after a reboot
>
>after a reboot and un-power
>

It's a hardware problem! Just tried rebooting again and it was OK this
time. That's about 10 fails before one success. Seems odd though that
without moving anything, if I switch off at the wall socket and then
switch on again, the LAN kicks back in. Intermittent problems are the
worst.

Looks like I'll have to start saving my pennies.

Regards, John
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Re: less, exit but left content on screen

[Bob Proulx]

Tong Sun wrote:
> I remember that I used to be able to exit 'less' by command key 'x' or
> something so that the content just viewed is left on screen, instead of
> being cleared and restored to the screen before invoking 'less'. But I
> found there is no such capability in current less (version 394). Or
> is there? 

The issue is whether the terminal uses an alternate screen buffer or
not.  If the terminal does not then your screen contents always
remain.  If so then they still remain, just in the alternate screen
buffer.

Using the standard xterm the control-middle mouse button will display
many options of which one is "Show Alternate Screen".  It is possible
to flip back and forth (inconveniently) to see this manually switch to
the alternate screen buffer.

> I am not sure whether my memory is correct or not, but I think such
> capability, leaving the just viewed content on screen, is desirable in
> certain circumstances. I hope such capability be implemented/put back
> into less. 

What you are seeing is not a change to less but a change to your
environment.  Less and other screen utilities such as emacs and vi
have always done this if the capability is available.  Previously you
were probably using a terminal that did not support an alternate
screen buffer.  Since now you are you are seeing the screen buffer
switching behavior.

You can disable this feature of the terminal by using the *titeInhibit
X resource.

One time command line option test invocation:

  xterm -xrm "*titeInhibit:true"

Then if that works then you can add that setting to your X environment
resources.  Typically it is placed in the ~/.Xresources file which is
normally loaded by your X session manager upon starup.  You can also
load this interactively with the following command.

  echo "*titeInhibit:true" | xrdb -merge

Note that setting *titeInhibit to true is not the same as running
'less -X'.  Using 'less -X' stops less from running all terminal
initialization.  Setting titeInhibit stops the terminal from
supporting an alternate screen buffer.

Also, a small suggestion.  Please read this following about how to
submit bug reports and to also send a copy to another addresses.  Look
for "Sending copies of bug reports to other addresses" which addresses
how to do this such that followups will have the correct bug report
address automatically available for people to followup.

  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

But personally I am not sure how beneficial it is to CC debian-user on
these things.  I think I would recommend against doing so in the future.

Bob


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Re: Problems with beryl after dist-upgrade

[Sam]

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On 8/11/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [ Top posting. Please don't. Hard for other people to join the
>   discussion, etc. ]
>
> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:10:07 -0700, Sam wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Thanks for the replies. I'm running Sid, and i used the nvidia installer
> > script.
> >
> > (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
> > (WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
> does
> > not exist.
> > (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in
> your X
> > (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your
> X
> > (EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX
> module.
> > If
> > (EE) NVIDIA(0): you continue to encounter problems, Please try
> > (EE) NVIDIA(0): reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
> > (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "720x400"; removing.
> > (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
>
> My guess is that the symlink to nvidia's glx module has been overwritten
> by the recent upgrade of xserver-xorg-core. (The Debian nvidia packages
> handle this much better.) You can check this with:
>
> ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
>
> This should be a symlink to another file, the nvidia glx module. You
> probably just have to run the nvidia installer script again, or you can
> create the symlink manually yourself.
>
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Thanks, rerunning the script worked.

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Re: Reboot loses LAN connection

[Kent West]

John K Masters wrote:

Strange behaviour on my laptop. Not sure if it's hardware or OS. Running
unstable and apart from a couple of problems (solved) all has been well
until about 4 days ago. Since then if I reboot or shutdown  and do not
disconnect the power, either by switching off at the mains or physically
disconnecting the plug, the laptop loses it's LAN connection.

This laptop is used 95% of the time at home plugged into a DLink router.
When I moved in here I cabled up the whole place so I could easily
locate workstations, laptops etc where I wanted. I've tried different
cables, different ports on the router but no difference.

My thought is that the laptop MOBO is failing but if anyone can tell me
different I would be happy to hear as I can't afford to replace it.

Regards, John
  


Are you using DHCP or static addressing?


What does "ifconfig" say ..

   before the reboot when the LAN's working

   after a reboot

   after a reboot and un-power


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Re: flac and wav

[Adam Hardy]

Ron Johnson on 11/08/07 20:20, wrote:

On 08/11/07 14:05, Adam Hardy wrote:

Marko Randjelovic on 11/08/07 13:00, wrote:

Adam Hardy wrote:

is anyone here familiar with wav files or flac encoding? I created a wav
file using ReZound and I'm trying to compress it with flac but I get the
following error:


[snip]

Maybe ReZound made bad wav file. Try some other wav file, from different
source. Can this wav file be played with some player?

You were right. I had made 4 files actually, and 2 of them were bad. I
opened them and re-saved them with ReZound, and they encoded properly
this time. I'm glad it wasn't anything but bad luck. But the files were
each 300MB in size and the length of time opening and saving them was so
appreciable, I hadn't thought of trying it.


Now you'll know next time to rip using Linux.

I like app (and package) "abcde" for ripping and compressing.


Would have if I could have! But it wasn't a cd. It was an old cassette tape 
feeding into the sound card, captured with ReZound.


abcde is my ripper of choice too but I couldn't figure out how to make it read 
the wav files I had saved. It appears it only works from CD. So I resorted to 
the bare flac program to compress them.



rgds
Adam


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Brendan]

On Saturday 11 August 2007, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2007-08-11 11:34:48 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Really?  Tell that to the Perl 4 programmers.
>
> Perl 4 is obsolete and no longer used, and has complete disappeared
> from Debian a long time ago. Perl 5 has been there since 13 years
> (about the same time python 1.0 was released). Concerning python,
> one still has 5 different versions (python2.1, python2.2, python2.3,
> python2.4, python2.5) in currently supported Debian versions!

Oh well. Fundamental stuff hasn't changed much, and the only things that have 
gotten changed have been warned about for quite awhile. Not a big deal, 
ESPECIALLY since this started as a beginner conversation. He wouldn't 
*possibly* run into any of these issues.


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2007-08-11 11:34:48 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Really?  Tell that to the Perl 4 programmers.

Perl 4 is obsolete and no longer used, and has complete disappeared
from Debian a long time ago. Perl 5 has been there since 13 years
(about the same time python 1.0 was released). Concerning python,
one still has 5 different versions (python2.1, python2.2, python2.3,
python2.4, python2.5) in currently supported Debian versions!

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Re: Debian can't mount Camera Memory Stick

[Daniel Burrows]

On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:57:04PM -0500, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> Mike McCarty wrote:
>> My GF has a situation in which she cannot mount a camera memory
>> stick. Here's the setup...
>> CPU<--->HUB<--->Dazzle[<--Stick
>
> Ok, I realize that it mounts when connected directly, so there
> is a work around. But is anyone willing to help figure out what
> is wrong so we can make this setup work? If not, then where do
> I file a defect report?

  I'd suggest filing a bug on your kernel package.

  Daniel


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Re: flac and wav

[Ron Johnson]

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On 08/11/07 14:05, Adam Hardy wrote:
> Marko Randjelovic on 11/08/07 13:00, wrote:
>> Adam Hardy wrote:
>>> is anyone here familiar with wav files or flac encoding? I created a wav
>>> file using ReZound and I'm trying to compress it with flac but I get the
>>> following error:
>>>
[snip]
>>
>> Maybe ReZound made bad wav file. Try some other wav file, from different
>> source. Can this wav file be played with some player?
> 
> You were right. I had made 4 files actually, and 2 of them were bad. I
> opened them and re-saved them with ReZound, and they encoded properly
> this time. I'm glad it wasn't anything but bad luck. But the files were
> each 300MB in size and the length of time opening and saving them was so
> appreciable, I hadn't thought of trying it.

Now you'll know next time to rip using Linux.

I like app (and package) "abcde" for ripping and compressing.

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Re: Problems with beryl after dist-upgrade

[Florian Kulzer]

[ Top posting. Please don't. Hard for other people to join the
  discussion, etc. ]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 11:10:07 -0700, Sam wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Thanks for the replies. I'm running Sid, and i used the nvidia installer
> script.
> 
> (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
> (WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" does
> not exist.
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module.
> If
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): you continue to encounter problems, Please try
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
> (WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "720x400"; removing.
> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable

My guess is that the symlink to nvidia's glx module has been overwritten
by the recent upgrade of xserver-xorg-core. (The Debian nvidia packages
handle this much better.) You can check this with:

ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so

This should be a symlink to another file, the nvidia glx module. You
probably just have to run the nvidia installer script again, or you can
create the symlink manually yourself.

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Re: correct kernel for etch - i386 - intel celeron

[Krzysztof Lubański]

On Sat, 2007-08-11 at 19:17 +0100, slink wrote:
> I got a new pc, celeron 2.6. [...]
> 
> Using expert install you are presented with 4 choices of kernel but no
> hint as to the differences.
> 
> I chose ... 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
> Linux skutter 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686
> GNU/Linux
> [...]

  Hi.

  From what I remember, the installer lets you choose one of these
versions:

  * 686 (optimized for Pentiums and Celerons)
  * K7 (optimized for AMD Athlons and Durons)
  * SMP versions of both (HyperThreading/multicore processors etc.,
though these will run just fine if your box doesn't provide
Symmetric MultiProcessing)

> I believe SMP stands for multi processor? [...]

  Yup, as above.

> could I have made a better choice, have I made the wrong choice?

  No better choice here, since you've chosen 686. If you compile the
kernel yourself, though, you may choose Pentium-4 processor type. It
will trigger optimizing the code for newer processors, like the one you
have. "686" kernel from the official packages uses more general/older
optimizations, I think, because it's meant for Pentium Pro upwards.

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Re: Default browser(Problem fixed)

[Jeff]

Thanks for the reply. Problem has been fixed now.
Jeff

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On 08/10/07 23:35, Jeff wrote:
  

Using Iceweasel as my browser in Etch but when i open a link it opens in
Epiphany. Have checked Iceweasel in Preferred Applications but still
opens in Epiphany!  How do Make it open in Iceweasel?



What DE and applications?


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Re: flac and wav

[Adam Hardy]

Marko Randjelovic on 11/08/07 13:00, wrote:

Adam Hardy wrote:

is anyone here familiar with wav files or flac encoding? I created a wav
file using ReZound and I'm trying to compress it with flac but I get the
following error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ flac Ted/Ted\ Hughes\ -\ 1970\ -\ Crow\ \(side\ 1\).wav

flac 1.1.2, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005  Josh Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  Type `flac' for
details.

options: -P 4096 -b 4608 -m -l 8 -q 0 -r 3,3
Ted Hughes - 1970 - Crow (side 1).wav: 100% complete, ratio=0.331Ted
Hughes - 1970 - Crow (side 1).wav: ERROR: unexpected EOF; expected
73923640 samples, got 73921536 samples


Flac reaches 100% while (presumably) encoding, but due to the error it
doesn't wwrite the flac file. This is with the --lax option which is
meant to be more forgiving.

Is this symptomatic of a setting I should have configured when I saved
the wav file in ReZound?


Maybe ReZound made bad wav file. Try some other wav file, from different
source. Can this wav file be played with some player?


You were right. I had made 4 files actually, and 2 of them were bad. I opened 
them and re-saved them with ReZound, and they encoded properly this time. I'm 
glad it wasn't anything but bad luck. But the files were each 300MB in size and 
the length of time opening and saving them was so appreciable, I hadn't thought 
of trying it.


Thanks
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Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Andrei,

On 8/10/07, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just look at your .bash_profile:
>
> # ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells.



And in .bashrc I find:

 # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells.


So this is my conclusion:
Whenever I open a new bash window, .bash_profile is executed,
coz bash is invoked as: /bin/bash --login.

On the other hand, when I open a new session, obviously there's
no need to invoke it as /bin/bash --login and thus .bashrc is executed.


I found a very useful link to learn more about shells:
http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/shell-scripting/ch02.html


Thanks for your response, Manon.

Re: Can't install zlib1g-dev on etch?

[Eric Adum]

>
> What does your sources.list look like?


 # etch
deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

# security updates
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib

# unstable
deb http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ unstable non-free
deb-src http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/ unstable non-free

And I also have the following /etc/apt/preferences file:

Package: *
Pin: release a=etch
Pin-Priority: 900
Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 800

I normally like to use stable, and only get packages from unstable if that
is the only way to get the features I require, using the "-t unstable" flag
when I apt-get install. Is this the best practice?

Can you try this (as a simulation)?
>
> apt-get -s install zlib1g=1:1.2.3-13 zlib1g-dev=1:1.2.3-13


I got some rather scary looking output from that; it appears that I'd have
to downgrade zlib1g to install the -dev package? Output:

The following extra packages will be installed:
  fglrx-control zlib1g zlib1g-dev
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  alacarte bluez-gnome bug-buddy cupsys cupsys-driver-gutenprint
deskbar-applet desktop-base ekiga eog epiphany-browser epiphany-extensions
evince evolution evolution-exchange
  evolution-plugins evolution-webcal fast-user-switch-applet fglrx-driver
file-roller filelight fontconfig foomatic-db-gutenprint foomatic-db-hpijs
foomatic-filters-ppds
  foomatic-gui gaim gcalctool gconf-editor gdebi gdm gedit ghex gimp
gimp-print gksu gnome-about gnome-applets gnome-btdownload
gnome-control-center gnome-core
  gnome-cups-manager gnome-desktop-environment gnome-games gnome-icon-theme
gnome-keyring gnome-keyring-manager gnome-media gnome-menus
gnome-netstatus-applet gnome-nettool
  gnome-panel gnome-power-manager gnome-screensaver gnome-session
gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-tools gnome-terminal gnome-themes
gnome-user-guide gnome-utils
  gnome-volume-manager gnomebaker gparted graphviz grdesktop gs-common
gs-esp gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-x gtk2-engines
gtk2-engines-pixbuf
  gtk2-engines-spherecrystal gtkhtml3.8 gucharmap hpijs hpijs-ppds hplip
iceweasel iceweasel-gnome-support ijsgutenprint kdelibs4c2a lanmap
libarts1c2a libavahi-qt3-1
  libbonoboui2-0 libcairo-perl libcairo2 libedataserverui1.2-6
libedataserverui1.2-8 libeel2-2.14 libexchange-storage1.2-1 libfontconfig1
libfreetype6 libg20 libg20-perl
  libgail-common libgail17 libgd2-noxpm libgdl-1-0 libgdl-1-common
libgimp2.0 libgksu1.2-0 libgksu2-0 libgksuui1.0-1 libglade2-0
libgnome-desktop-2 libgnome-keyring0
  libgnome-window-settings1 libgnome2-canvas-perl libgnome2-perl
libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecupsui1.0-1c2a libgnomeprint2.2-0
libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeui-0 libgpod0
  libgtk2-perl libgtk2.0-0 libgtk2.0-bin libgtkhex0 libgtkhtml2-0
libgtkhtml3.8-15 libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libgtksourceview1.0-0 libgtkspell0
libgucharmap4 libgutenprintui2-1
  libmetacity0 libnautilus-burn3 libnautilus-extension1 libnotify1
libopenexr2ldbl libpanel-applet2-0 libpango1.0-0
libpango1.0-commonlibpoppler0c2 libpoppler0c2-glib
  libqt3-mt librsvg2-2 librsvg2-common libsexy2
libswfdec0.3libtotem-plparser1 libvte4
libwmf0.2-7 libwnck18 libxfont1 libxft2 libxine1 libxklavier10 libxul0d
liferea
  liferea-xulrunner metacity nautilus nautilus-cd-burner
network-manager-gnome notification-daemon openoffice.org openoffice.org-base
openoffice.org-calc openoffice.org-core
  openoffice.org-draw openoffice.org-evolution openoffice.org-gcj
openoffice.org-gnome openoffice.org-gtk openoffice.org-help-en-us
openoffice.org-impress openoffice.org-math
  openoffice.org-thesaurus-en-us openoffice.org-writer poppler-utils
printconf python-cairo python-glade2 python-gnome2 python-gnome2-desktop
python-gnome2-extras python-gtk2
  python-qt3 python-uno python-vte rhythmbox sound-juicer synaptic totem
totem-mozilla totem-xine ttf-xfree86-nonfree twinkle update-manager
update-notifier vino xbase-clients
  xdelta xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-utils
xmms xorg xsane xscreensaver xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-apm
xserver-xorg-video-ark
  xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-dummy xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-glint
  xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i810 xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nv
xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
  xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
  xserver-xorg-video-tga xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-x

Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Steve Lamb]

Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> A part of the language is a bit obsolete. Some features are deprecated
> (but can be useful for some one-liners). Unlike Python, nothing is
> removed from Perl, so that old Perl scripts can still run and there
> is no need for N versions on the disk.

Really?  Tell that to the Perl 4 programmers.


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Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Wolodja,

As a side note on documentation. You might find packages like "dwww" or
> "dhelp" useful. They provide a single entry point to access all
> installed documentation.



Thanks! It's a very useful tip.

Manon.

Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Wayne,

I have never seen this way  of defining a path [ PATH=~/XX:"${PATH}" ]



These lines come from .bash_profile:

# set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists
if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then
PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
fi


I learned PATH="a path:a new path"  everything inclosed in quotes. I
> think (?) i tried your way yesterday and got strange results but I
> deleted that test file so 


Of course I tried PATH=~/XX:$PATH before, but when that didn't work,
I tried it the way .bash_profile showed me.


Manon.

correct kernel for etch - i386 - intel celeron

[slink]

Hi all,

I am hoping someone can shed some light regarding kernel choice.

I got a new pc, celeron 2.6. but before I trash a working Etch taken
from my 1.8 celeron I thought I would test the install on a spare 10gb
drive. 

Using expert install you are presented with 4 choices of kernel but no
hint as to the differences.

I chose ... 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux skutter 2.6.18-4-686 #1 SMP Wed May 9 23:03:12 UTC 2007 i686
GNU/Linux

... purely because it was the newest and I made the same choice with my
1.8 celeron which has worked reliably for some time now :)

Googling (badly and probably without the correct words) over the last 2
days has got me no wiser. 

Now the 2.6 machine "seems" to be working fine after some display
tweaking but I am curious to know if this information, ie. the
differences in the offered kernels and how to chose is mentioned
anywhere on Debian or the web.

I believe SMP stands for multi processor? (which mine isn't) but
could I have made a better choice, have I made the wrong choice?

Many thanks in advance.
 
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Reboot loses LAN connection

[John K Masters]

Strange behaviour on my laptop. Not sure if it's hardware or OS. Running
unstable and apart from a couple of problems (solved) all has been well
until about 4 days ago. Since then if I reboot or shutdown  and do not
disconnect the power, either by switching off at the mains or physically
disconnecting the plug, the laptop loses it's LAN connection.

This laptop is used 95% of the time at home plugged into a DLink router.
When I moved in here I cabled up the whole place so I could easily
locate workstations, laptops etc where I wanted. I've tried different
cables, different ports on the router but no difference.

My thought is that the laptop MOBO is failing but if anyone can tell me
different I would be happy to hear as I can't afford to replace it.

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Re: Problems with beryl after dist-upgrade

[Sam]

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies. I'm running Sid, and i used the nvidia installer
script.

(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
(WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" does
not exist.
(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
(EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
(EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module.
If
(EE) NVIDIA(0): you continue to encounter problems, Please try
(EE) NVIDIA(0): reinstalling the NVIDIA driver.
(WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "720x400"; removing.
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable



On 8/11/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 20:51:54 -0700, Sam wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > Just did a dist-upgrade. Upon reboot I get the usual login screen, but
> when
> > I log in things start up and then immediately crash back to the login
> > screen.
> >
> > Here is my xorg.conf file that worked before upgrade
>
> [...]
>
> > Section "Module"
> > Load   "glx"
> > Load   "dbe"
> > EndSection
>
> [...]
>
> > Section "Monitor"
> > Identifier "EN9410e"
> > Option "DPMS"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Device"
> > Identifier "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]"
> > Driver "nvidia"
> > Option "RenderAccel" "true"
> > Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Screen"
> > Identifier "Default Screen"
> > Device "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]"
> > Monitor"EN9410e"
> > DefaultDepth24
> > SubSection "Display"
> > Depth   24
> > Modes  "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600"
> > "720x400"
> >  "640x480"
> > EndSubSection
> > Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
> > EndSection
> >
> > Section "Extensions"
> > Option "Composite" "Enable"
> > EndSection
> >
> > I had to chop of the last section "extentions" in order to get beryl to
> > finally crash back to metacity so I could get a Desktop environment. Any
> > Idea whats going wrong with this?
>
> Put the section back in, restart [xkg]dm, log in and let it crash. Then
> switch to a terminal (press CTRL + ALT + F1), log in and run the
> following command:
>
> egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
> Post the output here; we need to see the error messages and warnings in
> the Xorg log to figure out what is going on.
>
> You can append "> file.txt" (without the quotes) to the above command to
> redirect the output into a file, if that makes it easier for you to read
> this data into your email program.
>
> Also tell us which branch of Debian you are using (Etch, Lenny, or Sid)
> and how you installed the nvidia driver (Debian packages or nvidia
> installer script).
>
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problem running distillation simulation applet with amd64 java.....

[Michael Fothergill]

From: "Michael Fothergill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problem running distillation simulation applet with amd64 
java.

Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:41:27 +





From: "Michael Fothergill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problem running distillation simulation applet with amd64 
java.

Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:22:14 +

Dear Debian Java folks,

I run Etch 4.0 r(0) on

I use Iceweasel and I recently installed java-gcj-compat-plugin from 
synaptic.  I then went to the following web site:


http://tierling.home.texas.net/

This guy has generously put a bunch of java applets on the site than can 
simulate various engineering pieces of kit.


I went on there and ran some of the applets.  The vessel volume one worked 
fine.  It has a final line at the bottom with a calculate button and a 
print ready button.



The calculate button allows you to run the volume calculation again after 
changing the parameters in the above buttons for the vessel.


You get sensible results when you change the parameters.

But if you go on the distillation simulation there is a problem.

The applet runs BUT it does not produce the last line at the bottom which 
should have a similar calculate and print ready buttons.


This means that you can't rerun the calculation with new parameters etc.  
In effect the applet is useless


I wondered if there could be a problem with the java plugin I was using. 
So I found an IT guy at work who uses Internet explorer plus java plugin 
and Windows etc and looked on the same web page and ran the applet for the 
distillation simulation.


It worked.

I got the final calculate and print ready buttons.

He thought I needed to upgrade the java I am using.

I wondered if it meant that the java-gcj-compat-plugin deb file has an 
error in it somewhere.


So removed the  java-gcj-compat-plugin using synaptic and then I 
downloaded the amd64 jre file from the blackdown site (version 01) and 
installed it with the java-package fakeroot make-jpkg commands etc and 
then installed the deb file that I made from it with the dpkg command.


I then went back on Shane Tierling's web site and tried the distillation 
applet again.  I still get exactly the same problem.


Something is wrong with the java we are using in the gcj and blackdown 
plugins we are using in Etch AMD64 land.


Either that or MR Tierling's java is a little wonky in some subtle way so 
that the plugins don't read it correctly except in Windows land.


I will have to run this applet on my pals Windows box


Never mind.

Unless you java folks have a way to get this applet to work.

Comments appreciated.

Regards

Michael Fothergill

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Re: Default browser

[Ron Johnson]

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On 08/10/07 23:35, Jeff wrote:
> Using Iceweasel as my browser in Etch but when i open a link it opens in
> Epiphany. Have checked Iceweasel in Preferred Applications but still
> opens in Epiphany!  How do Make it open in Iceweasel?

What DE and applications?


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Ron Johnson]

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>>> Haskell defines TABs as being 8 spaces apart and I expect Python to do
>>> the same.
> 
>> Python should do it because Haskell does it??
> 
> Not because Haskell is so influential, but because the same causes tend to
> result in the same effects.

I didn't notice this before, but should have:

Hard-coded definition of ^I?  That's... that's... stunning.

(BTW, Python has tabnanny and string.expandtabs() to assist people
with mismatching tab issues.)

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RE: problem making symbolic link to blackdown SOLVED but now applet still fails.

[Michael Fothergill]

Wait a minute Forget all this.  I read the documentation for a generic 
install from the blackdown site and forgot about the debian installation 
process.


I deleted the manual installation I did.

I did

apt-get install java-package

I then did the fakeroot command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/java/blackdown$ fakeroot make-jpkg 
j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin

Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.Gdifk15787
Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh 
ibm-j2re.sh ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk-doc.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh 
sun-j2sdk-doc.sh sun-j2sdk.sh


Detected Debian build architecture: amd64
Detected Debian GNU type: x86_64-linux-gnu

No matching plugin was found.
Removing temporary directory: done
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/java/blackdown$ ls
INSTALL-j2re  j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin  
j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin.sign  LICENSE  README



OK, I fixed the problem.  I installed j2re-1.4.2-01-linux-amd64.bin instead 
of the 03 version with make-jpkg and the java has correctly installed.



I then went to the distillation applet web site I mentioned in an earlier 
posting to see if I could get the applet to work that failed to work 
properly with the gcj plugin I got with the standard amd64 Etch 
installation..


Sadly I got the same error as before.

If you go to this web site:

http://tierling.home.texas.net/

and go on the vessel volume applet you get a nice bunch of boxes that you 
can enter numbers in with a calculate button underneath them.


You can run the applet over and over again changing the parameters in it and 
getting different volumes for the vessel.


I think its a good example of what an applet can do.

But the distillation applet doesn't work properly.

The blue calculate button at the bottom of the window is not created.  So 
you can't re run the applet with new parameters in it.


So the applet is useless.

If you run the applet in e.g. Internet Explorer on Windows then the 
calculate button is created..


Something is wrong with the java we are using in the gcj and blackdown 
plugins we are using in Etch AMD64 land.


Either that or MR Tierling's java is a little wonky in some subtle way so 
that the plugins don't read it correctly except in Windows land.


I will have to run this applet on my pals Windows box

Never mind.

Regards

Michael Fothergill
























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It didn't make the deb file

What is this missing matching plugin?

Does anyone know?


I note from one web page I have read that the "no matching plugin was 
found" can occur with the make-jpkg command if you are using an old version 
of java-package.


THis was defined as older than 0.24.   I am using 0.28.

Regards

Michael Fothergill





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RE: problem making symbolic link to blackdown (fixed) but a now a new problem..

[Michael Fothergill]

From: "Michael Fothergill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: problem making symbolic link to blackdown (fixed) but a now a 
new problem..

Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:56:12 +





From: "Michael Fothergill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: problem making symbolic link to blackdown amd64 java plugin 
library file...

Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:17:32 +

Dear Debianists,


I use Etch 4.0 (r0) AMD64 version on a AMD64 box.  I use Iceweasel.

I removed the gcj java plugin from my browser I had been using because it 
could not run applet properly .


I then downloaded the amd64 version of blackdown j2re-1.4.2-03.

I then followed the instructions for installing it.

I moved the file into the /usr/local directory.

I then ran
chmod +x j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin

I then did


./j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin


and installed the java files

BUT

I did all this as root..

Was that naughty?  If it was does anyone know how I uninstall it and start 
again as a user?


I then (still root) did the symbolic link assignment.

ln -s /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so \ 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/


I got the following error message:

localhost:/usr/local# ln -s 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so \ 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
ln: creating symbolic link ` /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins' to 
`/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so': No such 
file or directory

localhost:/usr/local#

I wondered if I had a spelling error etc so I did

localhost:/usr/local# ls -l 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 246608 2005-11-23 21:15 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so

localhost:/usr/local#

It seemed to find the file.

But then I began to wonder that installing as root not a user had made the 
plugin library file belong to root and its group and maybe this caused 
some  kind of permission problem that made the ln -s command not work.


Comments welcome here.

I went in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to see what was there:

drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-08-11 13:40 plugins
localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla# cd plugins
localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# ls -l
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-basic-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-complex-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-complex-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-mully-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-mully-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so 
-> ../../totem/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt 
-> ../../totem/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt

localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins#

Comments appreciated on fixing this.


Wait a minute Forget all this.  I read the documentation for a generic 
install from the blackdown site and forgot about the debian installation 
process.


I deleted the manual installation I did.

I did

apt-get install java-package

I then did the fakeroot command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/java/blackdown$ fakeroot make-jpkg 
j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin

Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.Gdifk15787
Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh 
ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk-doc.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh 
sun-j2sdk-doc.sh sun-j2sdk.sh


Detected Debian build architecture: amd64
Detected Debian GNU type: x86_64-linux-gnu

No matching plugin was found.
Removing temporary directory: done
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/java/blackdown$ ls
INSTALL-j2re  j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin  
j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin.sign  LICENSE  README

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/java/blackdown$

It didn't make the deb file

What is this missing matching plugin?

Does anyone know?


I note from one web page I have read that the "no matching plugin was found" 
can occur with the make-jpkg command if you are using an old version of 
java-package.


THis was defined as older than 0.24.   I am using 0.28.

Regards

Michael Fothergill





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RE: problem making symbolic link to blackdown (fixed) but a now a new problem..

[Michael Fothergill]

From: "Michael Fothergill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: problem making symbolic link to blackdown amd64 java plugin 
library file...

Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:17:32 +

Dear Debianists,


I use Etch 4.0 (r0) AMD64 version on a AMD64 box.  I use Iceweasel.

I removed the gcj java plugin from my browser I had been using because it 
could not run applet properly .


I then downloaded the amd64 version of blackdown j2re-1.4.2-03.

I then followed the instructions for installing it.

I moved the file into the /usr/local directory.

I then ran
chmod +x j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin

I then did


./j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin


and installed the java files

BUT

I did all this as root..

Was that naughty?  If it was does anyone know how I uninstall it and start 
again as a user?


I then (still root) did the symbolic link assignment.

ln -s /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so \ 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/


I got the following error message:

localhost:/usr/local# ln -s 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so \ 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
ln: creating symbolic link ` /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins' to 
`/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so': No such 
file or directory

localhost:/usr/local#

I wondered if I had a spelling error etc so I did

localhost:/usr/local# ls -l 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 246608 2005-11-23 21:15 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so

localhost:/usr/local#

It seemed to find the file.

But then I began to wonder that installing as root not a user had made the 
plugin library file belong to root and its group and maybe this caused some 
 kind of permission problem that made the ln -s command not work.


Comments welcome here.

I went in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to see what was there:

drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-08-11 13:40 plugins
localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla# cd plugins
localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# ls -l
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-basic-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-complex-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-complex-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-mully-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-mully-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so 
-> ../../totem/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt 
-> ../../totem/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt

localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins#

Comments appreciated on fixing this.


Wait a minute Forget all this.  I read the documentation for a generic 
install from the blackdown site and forgot about the debian installation 
process.


I deleted the manual installation I did.

I did

apt-get install java-package

I then did the fakeroot command:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/java/blackdown$ fakeroot make-jpkg 
j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin

Creating temporary directory: /tmp/make-jpkg.Gdifk15787
Loading plugins: blackdown-j2re.sh blackdown-j2sdk.sh common.sh ibm-j2re.sh 
ibm-j2sdk.sh j2re.sh j2sdk-doc.sh j2sdk.sh j2se.sh sun-j2re.sh 
sun-j2sdk-doc.sh sun-j2sdk.sh


Detected Debian build architecture: amd64
Detected Debian GNU type: x86_64-linux-gnu

No matching plugin was found.
Removing temporary directory: done
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/java/blackdown$ ls
INSTALL-j2re  j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin  
j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin.sign  LICENSE  README

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/java/blackdown$

It didn't make the deb file

What is this missing matching plugin?

Does anyone know?

Regards

Michael Fothergill











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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 09:07:07 -0400, Michael Habashy wrote:

[...]

> I did a modprobe on usb-serial and ftdi_sio and they both load great.

What gave you the idea to modprobe ftdi_sio? Is that somewhere in the
kannel manual or was this module loaded automatically?

> ...after
> loading what am i suppose to see?  Should it say ttyUSB0 device ready or
> somehting like that ?

There is not always a message in the syslog about the new device node.
You just have to check if a new ttyS*, ttyUSB*, or something like that
has been created in /dev/. Also, we still don't know for sure if your
mobile phone has to appear as a tty device for kannel, we are just
guessing based of that one line in the example configuration.

>  The strange thing is that i have a bluetooth dongle --that is in one of th
> usb ports..and that works ..b/c i am able to hook it up to my phone.
> I am further able to connect to it with rfcomm.  It looks like i can take
> the modem off the hook..but I am at a dead end there..because i can not
> reference the device in Kannel.

I now had a look at the kannel website. I cannot make heads or tails of
their "documentation". I have no idea if their software can work via
rfcomm (or OBEX, or whatever).

> my dmesg looks like this:
> 
>  drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for
> FTDI USBSerial Device
> usbcore: registered new driver ftdi_sio
> drivers/usb/serial/ftdi_sio.c: v1.4.3:USB FTDI Serial Converters Driver
> 
> and my lsusb looks like this:
> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0bb4:0bce High Tech Computer Corp.
> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth
> Dongle (HCI mode)
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d49:5020 Maxtor
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID :

The device ID 0bce does not seem to be in USB IDs database. I just
updated it with the "update-usbids" command. Here is what I find in my
/var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids:

0bb4  High Tech Computer Corp.
00ce  mmO2 XDA GSM/GPRS Pocket PC
00cf  SPV C500 Smart Phone
0a02  Himalaya GSM/GPRS Pocket PC
0a51  SPV C400 / T-Mobile SDA GSM/GPRS Pocket PC

I found this in the kernel sources in drivers/usb/serial/ipaq.c:

{ USB_DEVICE(0x0BB4, 0x00CE) }, /* HTC USB Sync */
{ USB_DEVICE(0x0BB4, 0x00CF) }, /* HTC USB Modem */
{ USB_DEVICE(0x0BB4, 0x0A02) }, /* PocketPC USB Sync */
{ USB_DEVICE(0x0BB4, 0x0A51) }, /* SmartPhone USB Sync */

This ipaq module seems to support PDAs and SmartPhones based on Windows
CE 3.0 or PocketPC 2002 operating systems. The good news is that I also
see this mentioned:

{ USB_DEVICE(0x0BB4, 0x0BCE) }, /* "High Tech Computer Corp" */

Maybe you get lucky with "modprobe ipaq". I have kernel 2.6.22 with
version 0.5 of the ipaq module. You can see your available version with
"modinfo ipaq".

Generally speaking, the vendor ID (0bb4) and the device ID (0bce) can be
helpful for google searches since they are often the quickest way to
find linux-related pages for your device.

> and my lsmod looks like this:
> 
> usbserial  39152  1 ftdi_sio
> hci_usb22812  2
> bluetooth  61572  7 rfcomm,l2cap,hci_usb
> usb_storage87616  1
> scsi_mod  153008  3 sd_mod,libata,usb_storage
> ide_core  147584  5
> ide_generic,ide_cd,usb_storage,generic,amd74xx

[...]

> where would it tell me that the phone is this this ttty* device???

If you see a likely candidate in /dev/ you can run

udevinfo -a -n /dev/whatever

to see if this note is related to your device. If all else fails you can
do a brute-force search: Run

find /dev/ | sort > before.txt

before you plug in the phone. Then plug it in, turn it on, modprobe all
the modules and wait a few seconds. After that, run:

find /dev/ | sort > after.txt

This command will then show you all the device nodes that are new in
after.txt:

comm -3 before.txt after.txt

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Re: Fwd: Wireless card

[Cavan Mejias]

Hey everybody, does anyone know where on the Debian website can i find the
2.6.20 kernel? I only see the 2.6.21 release which wont boot on my
machine(hangs after detecting the CD-ROM). Or is it not available from the
site any more? Thanks.

Cavan

On 11/08/07, Cavan Mejias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ok thanks, I just realised I have a kernel from unstable installed, 2.6.22.
> I hope the 6.20 kernel supports wireless.
>
> On 11/08/07, Stef Daniels VK5HSX < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I would update your kernel to atleast 2.6.18 or 2.6.20 which is better.
> > If you have the module_assistant installed you can install the relevant
> > modules in the kernel.
> >
> > Have a read of this page..
> >
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
> >
> > (Eventhoug it ubuntu, still useful).
> >
> > Things to make sure installed:
> >
> > module-assistant - tool to make module package creation easier
> > wpasupplicant - Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
> > wireless-tools - Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 20:12 -0400, Cavan Mejias wrote:
> > > Thanks. I did that before installing the kernel 2.6.1. Now Im not sure
> > > if its in the right folder, its in /etc/lib/firmware.
> > > Any Ideas
> > >
> > > -- Forwarded message --
> > > From: Stef Daniels VK5HSX < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 10-Aug-2007 20:04
> > > Subject: Re: Wireless card
> > > To: Cavan Mejias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > Hi Cavan,
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 08:09 -0400, Cavan Mejias wrote:
> > > > hey everybody. I have the dreaded broadcom card. I got it to show up
> > > > using the latest kernel from backports.org . However  I cant get it
> > > to
> > > > connect  to any wireless networks including  an unprotected 1 and a
> > > > wep access pt for which I have the key.  Does anybody has any
> > > > experience with this?
> > >
> > > I have a Broadcom card in my HP Laptop. I found the
> > >
> > > bcm43xx-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
> > >
> > > Useful and gets the firmware from the device.
> > >
> > > > iwconfig gives this:debian:~# iwconfig
> > > > lono wireless extensions.
> > > >
> > > > eth0  no wireless extensions.
> > > >
> > > > Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 22
> > > > of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version
> > > 20.
> > > > Some things may be broken...
> > > >
> > > > eth1  IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"Joyce  Gibson Innis HotSpot"
> > > > Nickname:"Broadco m 4311"
> > > >   Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.462 GHz  Access Point:
> > > > 00:09:92:01:38:A0
> > > >   Bit Rate=24 Mb/s   Tx-Power=18 dBm
> > > >   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
> > > >   Encryption key:XX   Security mode:open
> > > >   Link Quality=66/100  Signal level=-65 dBm  Noise
> > > level=-71
> > > > dBm
> > > >   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
> > > >   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
> > > >
> > > > I cant seem to find a  version 22 of wireless extension @
> > > > packages.debian.org . Im running etch stable. Any ideas? Thanks
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards & Best 73,
> > >
> > > Stef Daniels VK5HSX- (OpenPGP: 0x828E2EB0)
> > > Amateur Radio Station
> > > Adelaide, Sth Australia- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > > Member South Coast ARC Inc.- (www.scarc.org.au)
> > > Member Wireless Inst. of Aust  - ( www.wia.org.au)
> > >
> > --
> > Regards & Best 73,
> >
> > Stef Daniels VK5HSX- (OpenPGP: 0x828E2EB0)
> > Amateur Radio Station
> > Adelaide, Sth Australia- ([EMAIL PROTECTED] )
> > Member South Coast ARC Inc.- (www.scarc.org.au)
> > Member Wireless Inst. of Aust  - (www.wia.org.au)
> >
> >
>

Re: Boot troubles

[Cavan Mejias]

yeah, i think its recommended that you install XP first, then debian. Good
Luck!

On 11/08/07, Samuel Bächler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I installed Windows XP, it setted it's  own code in MBR. I wasn't
> > confused, I just inserted first DVD of Debian GNU/Linux Sarge in
> > DVD-ROM, but then I understood... The kernels on DVD doesn't support
> > my reiserfs filesystem!
>
> In my opinion this point is confusing. Did you install XP when debian
> was allready installed?
>
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Re: Fwd: Wireless card

[Cavan Mejias]

ok thanks, I just realised I have a kernel from unstable installed, 2.6.22.
I hope the 6.20 kernel supports wireless.

On 11/08/07, Stef Daniels VK5HSX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would update your kernel to atleast 2.6.18 or 2.6.20 which is better.
> If you have the module_assistant installed you can install the relevant
> modules in the kernel.
>
> Have a read of this page..
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
>
> (Eventhoug it ubuntu, still useful).
>
> Things to make sure installed:
>
> module-assistant - tool to make module package creation easier
> wpasupplicant - Client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
> wireless-tools - Tools for manipulating Linux Wireless Extensions
>
>
>
> On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 20:12 -0400, Cavan Mejias wrote:
> > Thanks. I did that before installing the kernel 2.6.1. Now Im not sure
> > if its in the right folder, its in /etc/lib/firmware.
> > Any Ideas
> >
> > -- Forwarded message --
> > From: Stef Daniels VK5HSX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 10-Aug-2007 20:04
> > Subject: Re: Wireless card
> > To: Cavan Mejias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Hi Cavan,
> >
> > On Fri, 2007-08-10 at 08:09 -0400, Cavan Mejias wrote:
> > > hey everybody. I have the dreaded broadcom card. I got it to show up
> > > using the latest kernel from backports.org. However  I cant get it
> > to
> > > connect  to any wireless networks including  an unprotected 1 and a
> > > wep access pt for which I have the key.  Does anybody has any
> > > experience with this?
> >
> > I have a Broadcom card in my HP Laptop. I found the
> >
> > bcm43xx-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
> >
> > Useful and gets the firmware from the device.
> >
> > > iwconfig gives this:debian:~# iwconfig
> > > lono wireless extensions.
> > >
> > > eth0  no wireless extensions.
> > >
> > > Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 22
> > > of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version
> > 20.
> > > Some things may be broken...
> > >
> > > eth1  IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"Joyce  Gibson Innis HotSpot"
> > > Nickname:"Broadco m 4311"
> > >   Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.462 GHz  Access Point:
> > > 00:09:92:01:38:A0
> > >   Bit Rate=24 Mb/s   Tx-Power=18 dBm
> > >   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
> > >   Encryption key:XX   Security mode:open
> > >   Link Quality=66/100  Signal level=-65 dBm  Noise
> > level=-71
> > > dBm
> > >   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
> > >   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
> > >
> > > I cant seem to find a  version 22 of wireless extension @
> > > packages.debian.org. Im running etch stable. Any ideas? Thanks
> >
> > --
> > Regards & Best 73,
> >
> > Stef Daniels VK5HSX- (OpenPGP: 0x828E2EB0)
> > Amateur Radio Station
> > Adelaide, Sth Australia- ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> > Member South Coast ARC Inc.- (www.scarc.org.au)
> > Member Wireless Inst. of Aust  - ( www.wia.org.au)
> >
> --
> Regards & Best 73,
>
> Stef Daniels VK5HSX- (OpenPGP: 0x828E2EB0)
> Amateur Radio Station
> Adelaide, Sth Australia- ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Member South Coast ARC Inc.- (www.scarc.org.au)
> Member Wireless Inst. of Aust  - (www.wia.org.au)
>
>

problem making symbolic link to blackdown amd64 java plugin library file...

[Michael Fothergill]

Dear Debianists,


I use Etch 4.0 (r0) AMD64 version on a AMD64 box.  I use Iceweasel.

I removed the gcj java plugin from my browser I had been using because it 
could not run applet properly .


I then downloaded the amd64 version of blackdown j2re-1.4.2-03.

I then followed the instructions for installing it.

I moved the file into the /usr/local directory.

I then ran
chmod +x j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin

I then did


./j2re-1.4.2-03-linux-amd64.bin


and installed the java files

BUT

I did all this as root..

Was that naughty?  If it was does anyone know how I uninstall it and start 
again as a user?


I then (still root) did the symbolic link assignment.

ln -s /usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so \ 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/


I got the following error message:

localhost:/usr/local# ln -s 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so \ 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
ln: creating symbolic link ` /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins' to 
`/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so': No such 
file or directory

localhost:/usr/local#

I wondered if I had a spelling error etc so I did

localhost:/usr/local# ls -l 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 246608 2005-11-23 21:15 
/usr/local/j2re1.4.2/plugin/amd64/mozilla/libjavaplugin_oji.so

localhost:/usr/local#

It seemed to find the file.

But then I began to wonder that installing as root not a user had made the 
plugin library file belong to root and its group and maybe this caused some  
kind of permission problem that made the ln -s command not work.


Comments welcome here.

I went in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins to see what was there:

drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2007-08-11 13:40 plugins
localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla# cd plugins
localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins# ls -l
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-basic-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-basic-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-basic-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-complex-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-complex-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-complex-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-gmp-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-gmp-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 36 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-mully-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-mully-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt -> 
../../totem/libtotem-mully-plugin.xpt
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 42 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so -> 
../../totem/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 43 2007-03-23 23:02 libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt 
-> ../../totem/libtotem-narrowspace-plugin.xpt

localhost:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins#

Comments appreciated on fixing this.

Regards

Michael Fothergill

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Re: php5 and UTF BOM header

[supermega]

On 11 Sie, 09:50, Mathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Use an editor which allows you to omit the BOM, it's optional for UTF-8 
> anyways.
> As long as you send the correct Content-Type header, the output won't be any
> different.
>

I know this solition and I use it for now, but it's against the UTF
standard.
Isn't it a bug? http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=22108
Maybe php5 in debian isn't compiled with "--enable-zend-multibyte".
Why? I can't think of a case when sending these bytes is nessesary.

Regards,
Tomek


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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Michael Habashy]

On 8/11/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 21:34:08 -0400, Michael Habashy wrote:
> > On 8/10/07, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > Now, coming back to your problem: Since your example configuration
> file
> > > mentions /dev/ttyS0 it would seem that kannel wants to talk to the
> phone
> > > like to a serial modem. Therefore you will probably have to use
> > > something like /dev/ttyUSB0 for a USB-connected mobile. If you cannot
> > > find such a device node after plugging in the phone then it may be
> > > necessary to do "modprobe usb_serial" as root. If that does not help
> > > then you might have to load an additional kernel module specific to
> your
> > > type of cell phone. (Please note that I have never used kannel,
> > > therefore I can only offer speculation based on what I know about USB
> > > devices and udev in general.)
> >
> > Thanks for the great reply. I think you put me closer ---but I am not
> really
> > there yet.  To recap:
> > 1. the usbdev1.1_ep00 are basically useless.
>
> I am sure that they serve a purpose in the system, but I think the
> normal user does not have to interact directly with them.
>
> > 2. I have to load something else in order to get a usefull /dev/tty*  to
> > refer to.
>
> If the kernel recognizes a new device then the proper module(s) will be
> loaded (if they are available) and udev will create the necessary device
> nodes in /dev/. For fully supported devices this should all happen
> automatically. If a device is not well supported then it can be very
> difficult, or even impossible, to get it to work.
>
> > Do you know what that driver or module that I need to load for Cingular
> 8125
> > ?
>
> Unfortunately not. I just grepped for "cingular" in my kernel source
> directory and I did not get any hits. We would probably have to know
> what the relevant chipset or interface standard is called, but I have no
> clue about mobile phones (I don't own one), so I do not even know where
> to begin here.
>
> > I have loaded usbserial...but nothing happened...or at least i do not
> know
> > if anything happened..nothing was referenced that was usefull.  Do you
> know
> > where I can check?
>
> I am not sure if this was already covered earlier in this thread: Plug
> the phone into the USB port, switch the phone on, wait for a few seconds
> and then run "lsusb" and "lsusb -t". Post the output of these two
> commands and we will know more. (An important indicator is whether your
> system recognizes the vendor and product ID number of the device.)
>
> > Does anyone know a Cellphone from ATT that can work with debian...so I
> can
> > use it with a sms text messeging program ???
> >
> > I guess the phone would have to have a usb cable...Does anyone know of
> one
> > pleaseplease???
> >
> >
> > thanks
> > mjh
>
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>  Florian   |


I did a modprobe on usb-serial and ftdi_sio and they both load great...after
loading what am i suppose to see?  Should it say ttyUSB0 device ready or
somehting like that ?
 The strange thing is that i have a bluetooth dongle --that is in one of th
usb ports..and that works ..b/c i am able to hook it up to my phone.
I am further able to connect to it with rfcomm.  It looks like i can take
the modem off the hook..but I am at a dead end there..because i can not
reference the device in Kannel.
my dmesg looks like this:

 drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registered for
FTDI USBSerial Device
usbcore: registered new driver ftdi_sio
drivers/usb/serial/ftdi_sio.c: v1.4.3:USB FTDI Serial Converters Driver

and my lsusb looks like this:
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0bb4:0bce High Tech Computer Corp.
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth
Dongle (HCI mode)
Bus 002 Device 001: ID :
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0d49:5020 Maxtor
Bus 001 Device 001: ID :


and my lsmod looks like this:

usbserial  39152  1 ftdi_sio
hci_usb22812  2
bluetooth  61572  7 rfcomm,l2cap,hci_usb
usb_storage87616  1
scsi_mod  153008  3 sd_mod,libata,usb_storage
ide_core  147584  5
ide_generic,ide_cd,usb_storage,generic,amd74xx

and my lusb -t looks like this:

rider:~# lsusb -t
Bus#  2
`-Dev#   1 Vendor 0x Product 0x
  |-Dev#   2 Vendor 0x0a12 Product 0x0001
  `-Dev#   3 Vendor 0x0bb4 Product 0x0bce
Bus#  1
`-Dev#   1 Vendor 0x Product 0x
  `-Dev#   4 Vendor 0x0d49 Product 0x5020

where would it tell me that the phone is this this ttty* device???
thanks
mjh

Re: Java has stopped working

[John W. Foster]

On Saturday 11 August 2007 00:09, Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I just realized that java is no longer functioning on my up-to-date Etch
> system.  I had installed Sun Java using java-package and it had been
> working at the time.  I don't run java all that much, so I don't know
> just when it stopped working, but it is not working now.  I have used
> the test on Sun's site and it does not find my installation.  JAVA_HOME
> had been set to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun.  When Sun's own site could not
> find my installation I decided that it was time to uninstall and
> reinstall fresh.  I ran:
>
> aptitude remove sun_j2sdk1.5
>
> aptitude suggested installing what appears to be Debian java packages to
> replace the Sun package.  I agreed and the installation seemed to go
> smoothly, but I am still unable to run java packages, from Sun's site,
> or others.  Do I need a plugin of some sort?  When I tried to install
> sun-java5-plugin aptitude wanted to install Iceweasle.  Since I am
> happily running Firefox 2.0 I do not want to install Iceweasle.  How do
> I get around this?
>
> Can someone tell me what I might be missing, or point me in the right
> direction?
>
> --
> Marc Shapiro
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
---
try removing any debian packages with 'gcj' as part of the name for 
examplegcj; or any app named something-gcj. I ahve run into some conflicts 
with that recently. If that fixes the problem then there is most likely a bug 
in gcj, which I have not reported, since I was not certain it existed.
-- 
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Re: Boot troubles

[Samuel Bächler]

I installed Windows XP, it setted it's  own code in MBR. I wasn't
confused, I just inserted first DVD of Debian GNU/Linux Sarge in
DVD-ROM, but then I understood... The kernels on DVD doesn't support
my reiserfs filesystem!


In my opinion this point is confusing. Did you install XP when debian
was allready installed?


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Re: flac and wav

[Marko Randjelovic]

Adam Hardy wrote:
> Hi
> 
> is anyone here familiar with wav files or flac encoding? I created a wav
> file using ReZound and I'm trying to compress it with flac but I get the
> following error:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ flac Ted/Ted\ Hughes\ -\ 1970\ -\ Crow\ \(side\ 
> 1\).wav
> 
> flac 1.1.2, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005  Josh Coalson
> flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you are
> welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  Type `flac' for
> details.
> 
> options: -P 4096 -b 4608 -m -l 8 -q 0 -r 3,3
> Ted Hughes - 1970 - Crow (side 1).wav: 100% complete, ratio=0.331Ted
> Hughes - 1970 - Crow (side 1).wav: ERROR: unexpected EOF; expected
> 73923640 samples, got 73921536 samples
> 
> 
> Flac reaches 100% while (presumably) encoding, but due to the error it
> doesn't wwrite the flac file. This is with the --lax option which is
> meant to be more forgiving.
> 
> Is this symptomatic of a setting I should have configured when I saved
> the wav file in ReZound?
> 
> 
> Thanks
> Adam
> 
> 

Maybe ReZound made bad wav file. Try some other wav file, from different
source. Can this wav file be played with some player?


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flac and wav

[Adam Hardy]

Hi

is anyone here familiar with wav files or flac encoding? I created a wav file 
using ReZound and I'm trying to compress it with flac but I get the following error:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp$ flac Ted/Ted\ Hughes\ -\ 1970\ -\ Crow\ \(side\ 1\).wav

flac 1.1.2, Copyright (C) 2000,2001,2002,2003,2004,2005  Josh Coalson
flac comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  This is free software, and you are
welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions.  Type `flac' for details.

options: -P 4096 -b 4608 -m -l 8 -q 0 -r 3,3
Ted Hughes - 1970 - Crow (side 1).wav: 100% complete, ratio=0.331Ted Hughes - 
1970 - Crow (side 1).wav: ERROR: unexpected EOF; expected 73923640 samples, got 
73921536 samples



Flac reaches 100% while (presumably) encoding, but due to the error it doesn't 
wwrite the flac file. This is with the --lax option which is meant to be more 
forgiving.


Is this symptomatic of a setting I should have configured when I saved the wav 
file in ReZound?



Thanks
Adam


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2007-08-11 00:44:17 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> >>> Imagine a filename contains: ' `some command`
> 
> > Yes, because you get:
> 
> >   echo '' `ls -l`'
> 
> I get?  *I* get?  Pst, look up above.  *YOU* decided say "Imagine a
> filename contains: ' `some command`  Quoted right there.

I said "contains", not "is". You should get a dictionary.

> > which is not valid. Try with:
> 
> So now you're modifying what you wrote, tsk, tsk.

No, I've given a filename that *contains* ' `some command`.

> >> Which is why I strayed away from Perl into Python land.
> 
> > This is a very subjective argument. One *can* write readable Perl
> > scripts. Also remember TIMTOWTDI.
> 
> One can, yes. And I remember TIMTOWTDI which is the antithesis
> of writing readable code.

No, it's up to the programmer to write readable code.

> I was hip deep in Perl code for several years. I found that the only
> way to write readable Perl was to throw half of the language out and
> stick to a strict subset of the language so as to be consistent.

A part of the language is a bit obsolete. Some features are deprecated
(but can be useful for some one-liners). Unlike Python, nothing is
removed from Perl, so that old Perl scripts can still run and there
is no need for N versions on the disk.

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Re: Problems with beryl after dist-upgrade

[Florian Kulzer]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 20:51:54 -0700, Sam wrote:
> Hi all,
> Just did a dist-upgrade. Upon reboot I get the usual login screen, but when
> I log in things start up and then immediately crash back to the login
> screen.
> 
> Here is my xorg.conf file that worked before upgrade

[...]

> Section "Module"
> Load   "glx"
> Load   "dbe"
> EndSection

[...]

> Section "Monitor"
> Identifier "EN9410e"
> Option "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> Identifier "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]"
> Driver "nvidia"
> Option "RenderAccel" "true"
> Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> Identifier "Default Screen"
> Device "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]"
> Monitor"EN9410e"
> DefaultDepth24
> SubSection "Display"
> Depth   24
> Modes  "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600"
> "720x400"
>  "640x480"
> EndSubSection
> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Extensions"
> Option "Composite" "Enable"
> EndSection
> 
> I had to chop of the last section "extentions" in order to get beryl to
> finally crash back to metacity so I could get a Desktop environment. Any
> Idea whats going wrong with this?

Put the section back in, restart [xkg]dm, log in and let it crash. Then
switch to a terminal (press CTRL + ALT + F1), log in and run the
following command:

egrep '^\((EE|WW)\)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Post the output here; we need to see the error messages and warnings in
the Xorg log to figure out what is going on.

You can append "> file.txt" (without the quotes) to the above command to
redirect the output into a file, if that makes it easier for you to read
this data into your email program.

Also tell us which branch of Debian you are using (Etch, Lenny, or Sid)
and how you installed the nvidia driver (Debian packages or nvidia
installer script).

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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Florian Kulzer]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 21:34:08 -0400, Michael Habashy wrote:
> On 8/10/07, Florian Kulzer wrote:

[...]

> > Now, coming back to your problem: Since your example configuration file
> > mentions /dev/ttyS0 it would seem that kannel wants to talk to the phone
> > like to a serial modem. Therefore you will probably have to use
> > something like /dev/ttyUSB0 for a USB-connected mobile. If you cannot
> > find such a device node after plugging in the phone then it may be
> > necessary to do "modprobe usb_serial" as root. If that does not help
> > then you might have to load an additional kernel module specific to your
> > type of cell phone. (Please note that I have never used kannel,
> > therefore I can only offer speculation based on what I know about USB
> > devices and udev in general.)
> 
> Thanks for the great reply. I think you put me closer ---but I am not really
> there yet.  To recap:
> 1. the usbdev1.1_ep00 are basically useless.

I am sure that they serve a purpose in the system, but I think the
normal user does not have to interact directly with them.

> 2. I have to load something else in order to get a usefull /dev/tty*  to
> refer to.

If the kernel recognizes a new device then the proper module(s) will be
loaded (if they are available) and udev will create the necessary device
nodes in /dev/. For fully supported devices this should all happen
automatically. If a device is not well supported then it can be very
difficult, or even impossible, to get it to work.

> Do you know what that driver or module that I need to load for Cingular 8125
> ?

Unfortunately not. I just grepped for "cingular" in my kernel source
directory and I did not get any hits. We would probably have to know
what the relevant chipset or interface standard is called, but I have no
clue about mobile phones (I don't own one), so I do not even know where
to begin here.

> I have loaded usbserial...but nothing happened...or at least i do not know
> if anything happened..nothing was referenced that was usefull.  Do you know
> where I can check?

I am not sure if this was already covered earlier in this thread: Plug
the phone into the USB port, switch the phone on, wait for a few seconds
and then run "lsusb" and "lsusb -t". Post the output of these two
commands and we will know more. (An important indicator is whether your
system recognizes the vendor and product ID number of the device.)

> Does anyone know a Cellphone from ATT that can work with debian...so I can
> use it with a sms text messeging program ???
> 
> I guess the phone would have to have a usb cable...Does anyone know of one
> pleaseplease???
> 
> 
> thanks
> mjh

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Re: (solved) Re: how to (dis)allow some users from using wireless router?

[Liam O'Toole]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:06:15 + (UTC)
Simon Brandmair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Please notice, that filtering by mac address doesn't really add any
> extra security. The mac address can easily be changed with ifconfig,
> which is IMO default on every Debian machine.

While it is true that the MAC address can be spoofed, the intruder
would need to have an allowed MAC address at their disposal. It
would require some technical savvy to obtain one.

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Re: How to add dir to path

[Wolodja Wentland]

On Tue, Aug 07, 2007 at 22:21 +0200, Manon Metten wrote:
> On 8/7/07, P Kapat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I ain't got no /usr/share/doc/bash/examples dir.
> > > There's also no /usr/local/share/doc dir.
> > > Where do I get these examples?
> > apt-get install bash-doc
> > In general, for any package, pkg, pkg-doc is a good source of help 
> > and
> > examples.

As a side note on documentation. You might find packages like "dwww" or 
"dhelp" useful. They provide a single entry point to access all 
installed documentation.

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Re: (solved) Re: how to (dis)allow some users from using wireless router?

[Simon Brandmair]

Hi!

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:10:07 +0200 Serena Cantor wrote:

> Thanks! I'll try MAC filter later on.
> 
> --- steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Serena Cantor wrote:
>> > I knew WEP can do it. but the password is the same, any user can let 
>> > others use the router by
>> > giving them the password.
[...]   
>> on my linksys I can block by mac address, check once in a while to see 
>> who is connecting then block their mac address if you do not recognize 
>> them?

Please notice, that filtering by mac address doesn't really add any extra
security. The mac address can easily be changed with ifconfig, which is
IMO default on every Debian machine.

Cheers,
Simon


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Re: Questions about installing from net-install CD

[kaldrenon]

Thanks to all for your help!

I've got a much clearer picture of how the process goes now, and I'm
certain aptitude will help me get all the products I anticipate
needing. Very glad I posted here before I went and burned 21 CDs.
Wouldn't have enjoyed that.

-Andrew


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Re: How to make phone call using modem in Linux

[Ken Irving]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 11:20:20PM -0700, Jeff D wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Kieu Minh Thang wrote:
>>
>> I have install dtmfdial, but it seems my Debian doesn't have driver for
>> modem. But I see that dtmfdial is very simple program, just a binary file,
>> no config file. How does this know what device used to dial, where can I
>> config modem device for it ?
>>
> you might want to check out wvdial, I've used it before with good results.

Minicom is useful to manually control a modem, also cu and probably
others, by typing commands to the modem.  The serial interface, or
"driver", to the modem is well built into the Linux system

An automated "phone dialer" probably exists as a package or project;
I'd try googling for those terms, use 'apt-cache search ...', look on
sourceforge and other software development sites.

I wrote a simple and not very flexible "phone dialer" as an exercise
to learn Perl/Tk one time, using the perl Expect module to handle
the interactive nature of the problem, and cu as the backend to talk
to the modem.  It presents a few buttons in a window to connect to a
phone voice message system, listen and delete messages, and disconnect,
and optionally puts up a keypad.  I suspect you might be looking for
something like this, and you're welcome to it, but there are also likely
more fully featured and configurable gizmos out there.

You described what you wanted by saying it was "like" some other program;
without being familiar with that program, it's hard to know what you want.

(Hmm, reminds me of the Microsoft approach to "office" software
standards...)

Ken

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Re: Browser link

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 19:48:01 +1200, Jeff wrote:
> Magnus Therning wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 19:06:45 +1200, Jeff wrote:
>>   
>>> When i click on a web link in an email it opens the page in Epiphany
>>> and not Iceweasel which i have set up as my prefered browser.(in
>>> preferences) Can someone tell me how to make the webpages from an email
>>> link open in Iceweasel.
>>> 
>>
>> You probably should make sure both the GNOME preferred applications and
>> Debian's "alternative" (x-www-browser) point to iceweasel.  The former
>> you change in System->Preferences->Preferred Applications the latter you
>> use update-alternatives to change.
>>
>> /M
>>
>>   
> Where would i find "update-alternatives?

You run it from the command line, like this:

update-alternatives --config x-www-browser

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Re: Browser link

[Jeff]

Kent West wrote:

Jeff wrote:

Magnus Therning wrote:

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 19:06:45 +1200, Jeff wrote:
 

When i click on a web link in an email it opens the page in Epiphany
and not Iceweasel which i have set up as my prefered browser.(in
preferences) Can someone tell me how to make the webpages from an 
email

link open in Iceweasel.



You probably should make sure both the GNOME preferred applications and
Debian's "alternative" (x-www-browser) point to iceweasel.  The former
you change in System->Preferences->Preferred Applications the latter 
you

use update-alternatives to change.

/M

  

Where would i find "update-alternatives?
Jeff




Open a terminal (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or xterm or Gnome-Terminal or 
Konsole, etc).


Become root (e.g. "sudo ..." or "su -").

Run the command "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser".

Select the desired default.

("update-alternatives" without parameters will give you a short help 
screen, or "man update-alternatives" for the full treatment).


(Look in /etc/alternatives (i.e. "ls /etc/alternatives") for the items 
that can be configured.)



This has made it work. Many thanks!
Jeff


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Re: Java has stopped working

[Liam O'Toole]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:09:24 -0700
Marc Shapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just realized that java is no longer functioning on my up-to-date
> Etch system.  I had installed Sun Java using java-package and it had
> been working at the time.  I don't run java all that much, so I don't
> know just when it stopped working, but it is not working now.  I have
> used the test on Sun's site and it does not find my installation.
> JAVA_HOME had been set to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun.  When Sun's own site
> could not find my installation I decided that it was time to
> uninstall and reinstall fresh.  I ran:
> 
> aptitude remove sun_j2sdk1.5
> 
> aptitude suggested installing what appears to be Debian java packages
> to replace the Sun package.  I agreed and the installation seemed to
> go smoothly, but I am still unable to run java packages, from Sun's
> site, or others.  Do I need a plugin of some sort?  When I tried to
> install sun-java5-plugin aptitude wanted to install Iceweasle.  Since
> I am happily running Firefox 2.0 I do not want to install Iceweasle.
> How do I get around this?
> 
> Can someone tell me what I might be missing, or point me in the right 
> direction? 
> 

You will certainly need a Java plugin to run Java programs in your
browser. Iceweasel *is* Firefox 2 (more or less), so achieving that
will be so much easier if you use the Debian packages instead of
vanilla Firefox.

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Re: Browser link

[Kent West]

Jeff wrote:

Magnus Therning wrote:

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 19:06:45 +1200, Jeff wrote:
 

When i click on a web link in an email it opens the page in Epiphany
and not Iceweasel which i have set up as my prefered browser.(in
preferences) Can someone tell me how to make the webpages from an email
link open in Iceweasel.



You probably should make sure both the GNOME preferred applications and
Debian's "alternative" (x-www-browser) point to iceweasel.  The former
you change in System->Preferences->Preferred Applications the latter you
use update-alternatives to change.

/M

  

Where would i find "update-alternatives?
Jeff




Open a terminal (e.g. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or xterm or Gnome-Terminal or Konsole, 
etc).


Become root (e.g. "sudo ..." or "su -").

Run the command "update-alternatives --config x-www-browser".

Select the desired default.

("update-alternatives" without parameters will give you a short help 
screen, or "man update-alternatives" for the full treatment).


(Look in /etc/alternatives (i.e. "ls /etc/alternatives") for the items 
that can be configured.)


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Re: automagically mounting cdrom with discover

[Juha Tuuna]

Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   In the past I clearly remember that my cdroms where automagiclly
> mounted in /media/cdrom by -I think- discover. Today when I put a cd
> in the cdrom I have to manually mount them. Is there something I need
> to setup ?
> 
> Thanks for any documentation
> 
I don't know about discovery but ivman does the trick you're after. It
should be ok out-of-the-box.

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Re: Browser link

[Jeff]

Magnus Therning wrote:

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 19:06:45 +1200, Jeff wrote:
  

When i click on a web link in an email it opens the page in Epiphany
and not Iceweasel which i have set up as my prefered browser.(in
preferences) Can someone tell me how to make the webpages from an email
link open in Iceweasel.



You probably should make sure both the GNOME preferred applications and
Debian's "alternative" (x-www-browser) point to iceweasel.  The former
you change in System->Preferences->Preferred Applications the latter you
use update-alternatives to change.

/M

  

Where would i find "update-alternatives?
Jeff


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Re: php5 and UTF BOM header

[Mathias Brodala]

Hi.

supermega, 11.08.2007 03:21:
> How to make PHP interpreter not to send these BOM bytes to client?

Use an editor which allows you to omit the BOM, it’s optional for UTF-8 anyways.
As long as you send the correct Content-Type header, the output won’t be any
different.


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Steve Lamb]

Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>>> Imagine a filename contains: ' `some command`

> Yes, because you get:

>   echo '' `ls -l`'

I get?  *I* get?  Pst, look up above.  *YOU* decided say "Imagine a
filename contains: ' `some command`  Quoted right there.

> which is not valid. Try with:

So now you're modifying what you wrote, tsk, tsk.

>> Which is why I strayed away from Perl into Python land.

> This is a very subjective argument. One *can* write readable Perl
> scripts. Also remember TIMTOWTDI.

One can, yes.  And I remember TIMTOWTDI which is the antithesis of writing
readable code.  I was hip deep in Perl code for several years.  I found that
the only way to write readable Perl was to throw half of the language out and
stick to a strict subset of the language so as to be consistent.

> Nope. The first thing I do when I get an account is to install a recent
> version of zsh, so that zsh is always installed, but not necessarily
> python! :)

Love to see you do that on a restricted gaming box.


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Re: Browser link

[Magnus Therning]

On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 19:06:45 +1200, Jeff wrote:
>When i click on a web link in an email it opens the page in Epiphany
>and not Iceweasel which i have set up as my prefered browser.(in
>preferences) Can someone tell me how to make the webpages from an email
>link open in Iceweasel.

You probably should make sure both the GNOME preferred applications and
Debian's "alternative" (x-www-browser) point to iceweasel.  The former
you change in System->Preferences->Preferred Applications the latter you
use update-alternatives to change.

/M

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Browser link

[Jeff]

When i click on a web link in an email it opens the page in Epiphany and 
not Iceweasel which i have set up as my prefered browser.(in 
preferences) Can someone tell me how to make the webpages from an email 
link open in Iceweasel.

Thanks
Jeff


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