Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-24 01:08, lee wrote:

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:58:32AM -0400, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var (which is 
part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after S55something.


Check /boot/grub/menu list; I think that's where the kernel is being
told to mount the root-fs read-only:


title   server 2.6.30
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-server root=/dev/hda1 ro
savedefault


Or what else is this "ro" for?

You can press e in grub to edit this before booting, go to the line to
edit, press e again, edit the line and finally press enter to
boot. Maybe it works ...


That's what I eventually did, earlier this evening.  But... the grub 
file has *always* been like that.  Why the change now?


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Re: How to tell if an m4a file is lossless

[lee]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 03:32:15PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> How can I tell (from a script) if some *.m4a file is using the AAC codec
> or the ALAC codec?

Unpack it and compare it to the "original" unpacked file?

Perhaps the packer leaves a signature somewhere in the packed file to
tell an unpacker what it is. If you can find the signature or take a
look at the source of the unpacker, you might be able to find out how
to check what it is.


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Re: MTA experts: address rewriting depending on next hop

[Siggy Brentrup]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 23:04 -0600, lee wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:32:43AM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
> > Look at the Received: headers in my mails, afaict winnegan.fake is no
> > valid domain outside my lan and using outside  would provoke harsh
> > reactions.
> 
> Look at my headers: who cares? Unless you're an ISP or MSP or run the
> servers for a company, nobody is going to mind.

That's wrong, as with HTTP and other text based protocols relying on
headers not normally visible to the user, you're spreading quite a lot
of information and there are interested parties like google that run a
business analyzing this info.

> To actually run a mail server to send *and* receive mail, you need a
> static IP.

Thats wrong too, you need at least 1 (preferrably 2) MX records naming
hosts with A or  records, whether static or dynamic IP doesn't
matter the MX MTAs willing to relay your domain and you need an ISP
that doesn't block port 25.

The last 2 conditions can be dealt with when - as in my case - you are
allowed to configure the MTA at your primary MX (which must have an
open smtp port), look at the (obfuscated) header generated by the
incoming MTA on my LAN:

Received: from $MX ($MX_PTR [$MX_IPADDR])
by $FQDN_FOR_DYNIP:$PORT (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66A88949B
for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:04:31 +0200 (CEST)

$FQDN_FOR_DYNIP has a dynamic IP address and a very short living A
Record.

Well, this was my last post in this thread, I'll grant you the final
word if you care, maybe you can prove that Exim's FAQ 805 or 807 iirc
the link is on d-d - is wrong.  I'm not inclined to discuss this
subject any further on d-u as I've decided on a reliable solution the
day before yesterday.

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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[lee]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:58:32AM -0400, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
> boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var (which 
> is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after S55something.

Check /boot/grub/menu list; I think that's where the kernel is being
told to mount the root-fs read-only:


title   server 2.6.30
root(hd0,0)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-server root=/dev/hda1 ro
savedefault


Or what else is this "ro" for?

You can press e in grub to edit this before booting, go to the line to
edit, press e again, edit the line and finally press enter to
boot. Maybe it works ...


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Re: There is no signal coming from your computer..

[lee]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:

> Another debian-user reported having similar problems. In the morning when I 
> get in, I do not have any problems. This seems to only appears on a shorted 
> breaks. And my dell 2709W / DisplayPort clearly state: "There is no signal 
> coming from your computer..."

Afair that happened to me when I was using a graphics card that didn't
have a HDMI output on a Hannspree HF289H. It was working fine until
DPMS would become active.

DPMS turns off the signal the graphic card sends to turn off the
display. The signal is turned back on when you type on the keyboard or
move the mouse. Apparently the monitor didn't "realize" that the
signal from the graphics card was back and remained turned off and
continued to insist that there's no signal from the graphics card.

Check your combination of monitor and graphics card --- if you can't
fix/change that, you can try to turn off DPMS (disable it in xorg.conf
or maybe use xset to turn it off) and see what happens.


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Re: How to create"official" off-line repository

[lee]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:18:01AM +0300, Hai Zaar wrote:
> Good day dear list!
> 
> I work for organisation that has its development network off-line and
> I want to setup a Debian with current Lenny release.

Maybe mirroring might work: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror

Or are you saying that you want to install Debian but don't have
internet access and can't bring in/use DVDs?

In that case, perhaps it's possible to bring in the mirror on a disk
or on DVDs that contain parts of a file you can recreate where you
need it and loop mount that file (or otherwise copy the repo to DVDs)
to make the mirror of the repository available on the network which is
offline.


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Re: compensating for dhcp which only provides useless dns

[lee]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 10:50:08PM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

> wireless works fine except at one location where my guess is that the  
> DNS is not set up correctly.

> but I haven't figured out how /etc/resolv.conf is being  
> overwritten or where I can put the working nameserver addresses

The name server address goes into /etc/resolv.conf. Other places to
check are /etc/default/bind9 and /etc/network/interfaces.

You can always read /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/DNS-HOWTO.gz and set
up your own name server which would make you independent from what
DHCP provides --- and how do you know that you can trust the name
servers that are provided? It's likely to be faster, too.


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Re: FWD: Re: Network email draft

[lee]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 05:12:18AM +, bouncy...@gmail.com wrote:
> And what of the ideas contained therein?

I tried to read it, but found it unreadable. If you want others to
read your postings, it's a good idea to try to make a posting that is
easy to read and understandable. I don't like it when posters that
obviously didn't put any effort into asking a question or making a
statement waste my time and diskspace with unreadable or hard to read
posts. --- I can send you a screenshot showing you how your post looks
on my screen, maybe then you'll see what I mean.

So what is the idea you were trying to communicate?


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Re: Install question

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-23 23:39, Scott Curtis wrote:
Hi I have ubuntu 8.10 and was wondering if I can install Debian 5.0 with 
Ubuntu???


Things are too subtly different.  Besides, U 8.10 is newer than 
Debian 5.0.


Is this for a home or personal workstation where you want to keep up 
with the latest software?  If so, install Testing/Squeeze or 
Sid/Unstable.


Or... Ubuntu 9.04


   Kinda new so hope this is not a stupid question. Thanks


Google *is* your friend.  "Can I install Debian over Ubuntu?" is a 
perfectly valid Google search.


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Re: Kmail................

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-24 00:07, Celejar wrote:
[snip]


Sylpheed suffers from the same problem; my workaround is to maintain a
working getmail configuration, and when I know that I have a lot of
mail queued, my connection is slow, or I just want to use Sylpheed now
instead of waiting, I just download the mail from the cli with getmail,
and subsequently have Sylpheed incorporate it into its mail store
(which is a relatively quick process, even for fairly large amounts of
mail).


Why not feed it directly to procmail or maildrop?

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Re: MTA experts: address rewriting depending on next hop

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-24 00:04, lee wrote:

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:32:43AM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:

[snip]

Look at the Received: headers in my mails, afaict winnegan.fake is no
valid domain outside my lan and using outside  would provoke harsh
reactions.


Look at my headers: who cares? Unless you're an ISP or MSP or run the
servers for a company, nobody is going to mind. To actually run a
mail server to send *and* receive mail, you need a static IP.


But some ISPs, in their quest to block spam, reject such email.

[snip]


But what you're looking for is header rewriting, not address
rewriting. You need to browse the exim documentation, there are many


Interesting.  Thanks.

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Re: Debian Lenny amd64 hangs when loading parport module

[lee]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:52:50PM -0500, Jose Perez wrote:

> I got an error about problems creating a foomatic filter from the
> KDE printer assistant.

What did the error message say?


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Re: Open Office question.

[lee]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 08:39:09AM -0700, Bob McGowan wrote:
> lee wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:12:40PM -0400, I Rattan wrote:
> >> I did dist-upgrade and the new openffice (3.1)
> >> and it does display a .php file (goal is to convert
> >> to .txt), the older version did do this function.
> > 
> > What's the difference between a php file and a text file?
> > 
> 
> Technically, nothing.

Yeah, that's one of the reasons why I don't understand the OP and the
replies. What are they talking about?


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Re: Kmail................

[Celejar]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:24:14 -0300
Tiago Saboga  wrote:

...

> 1) There is a long-standing bug - or feature request: kmail does not
> start a new thread when downloading mail, so you have to wait for it to
> finish. It can be long if you have lots of mail, or if you pass the mail
> through anti-spam/anti-virus.

Sylpheed suffers from the same problem; my workaround is to maintain a
working getmail configuration, and when I know that I have a lot of
mail queued, my connection is slow, or I just want to use Sylpheed now
instead of waiting, I just download the mail from the cli with getmail,
and subsequently have Sylpheed incorporate it into its mail store
(which is a relatively quick process, even for fairly large amounts of
mail).

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Re: MTA experts: address rewriting depending on next hop

[lee]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:32:43AM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
> Oops, this one slipped by me since I have moved the question to
> d-devel, sorry for not Ccing d-user.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 16:10 -0600, lee wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 01:03:01PM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
> > > 
> > > Here's the question again: which one of the abundance of MTAs in
> > > Debian is capable of address rewriting depending on destination?  
> > 
> > Exim4 can do this.
> 
> Nope, cf thread on d-devel, should be in the archives. 

It will eventually do it automatically, see 
http://exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch31.html

> > If I understand you right, you want to rewrite the addresses of mail
> > that is outgoing to hosts not on your LAN --- but you do not want to
> > rewrite the addresses of mail outgoing to other hosts on your LAN.
> 
> exactly, frankly spoken after >12 hours w/o useful response I didn't
> expect d-u to be the right place to ask this question.

You could try debian-isp. I'm not sure if you're supposed to be an ISP
to ask that question there, but there are probably people who know.

> > But then, why do you need to rewrite the addresses? 
> 
> Look at the Received: headers in my mails, afaict winnegan.fake is no
> valid domain outside my lan and using outside  would provoke harsh
> reactions.

Look at my headers: who cares? Unless you're an ISP or MSP or run the
servers for a company, nobody is going to mind. To actually run a
mail server to send *and* receive mail, you need a static IP.

> > Do you want to use one host that does address rewriting as a
> > smarthost, or do you want to do address rewriting on all hosts on
> > the LAN?
> 
> The smarthost is responsible for rewriting.

I didn't read it thoroughly, but it seems to me that this what the
automatic address rewriting of exim is for --- or can at least be used for.

But what you're looking for is header rewriting, not address
rewriting. You need to browse the exim documentation, there are many
ways to modify headers. Since you want to use a smarthost, mail from
the LAN that goes to outside the LAN is, seen from the smarhost,
incoming mail, and system filters can be applied to incoming
mail. System filters can modify headers. see 
http://exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch43.html#SECTaddremheasys

> > > I'm not to lazy to read documentation, but if at all possible not for
> > > all MTAs.
> 
> > The documentation of Exim4 is outstanding. I haven't seen any better
> > for anything yet.
> 
> It's really good now but I switched to postfix >5 years ago and still
> don't see a reason to change my preferred MTA.

Maybe postfix can do it, I don't know postfix well enough to tell ---
I would think it can. But I'm sure that you can find a solution with
exim.


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Install question

[Scott Curtis]

Hi I have ubuntu 8.10 and was wondering if I can install Debian 5.0 with
Ubuntu??? Kinda new so hope this is not a stupid question. Thanks

Re: Debian Lenny amd64 hangs when loading parport module

[Jose Perez]

Hi:

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Jose Perez wrote:
>>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> I recently bought a new PC like this:
>>
>> Printer: HP Deskjet 920c (connected via USB cable)
>> Mainboard: MSI K9A2 Neo2 (This mainboard doesn't have a parallel port)
>> Processor: AMD Phenom X4
>> RAM: 8 GB
>> OS: Debian Lenny 5.0.2 amd64
>>
>> After installing some base packages I installed cups and when it tried
>> to start CUPS daemon it hanged the whole system. I started to search
>> for the source of the problem and I found that when CUPS daemons start
>> it loads lp and parport modules (the later as a dependency of lp).
>>
>> Everytime I try to load parport module the system hangs inmediately.
>> It happens the same when trying to load any module that depends of
>> parport. I'm not really sure if parport is it mandatory to start cups
>> but the LSB script tries to load lp and ppdev.
>>
>> I tried to see log messages but I just found this at /var/log/messages
>> after loading lp module:
>>
>> Jul 22 15:15:17 angel kernel: [  455.78] lp: driver loaded but no
>> devices found
>> Jul 22 15:15:17 angel kernel: [  455.804449] ppdev: user-space
>> parallel port driver
>>
>> I can't see any segmentation fault nor kernel panic nor anything like
>> that, it seems that everything is OK but the system is freezed.
>>
>> Does anybody here had a similar experience before? Could someone give
>> an idea to solve this issue? I don't know what to do 'cause I don't
>> even use a parallel port, I use USB port :(
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
> Have you loaded the USB modules for printing?
>

Yes, usblp is already loaded. But anyway CUPS needs lp (and so
parport) to be loaded, so that's when my system hangs up.

I tried to disable loading of lp and ppdev modules editing
/etc/init.d/cups but I can't print correctly, I got an error about
problems creating a foomatic filter from the KDE printer assistant.
I believe that this is because of the unloaded lp module.

Any idea?

> I switched motherboards and the new MB has no parallel port so I use a USB
> to parallel converter.  I had to load the usblp module to get printing to
> work.
>
> modinfo usblp
> filename: /lib/modules/2.6.30-1-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/class/usblp.ko
> license:        GPL
> description:    USB Printer Device Class driver
> author:         Michael Gee, Pavel Machek, Vojtech Pavlik, Randy Dunlap,
>             Pete Zaitcev, David Paschal
> alias:          usb:v04B8p0202d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
> alias:          usb:v*p*d*dc*dsc*dp*ic07isc01ip03*
> alias:          usb:v*p*d*dc*dsc*dp*ic07isc01ip02*
> alias:          usb:v*p*d*dc*dsc*dp*ic07isc01ip01*
> alias:          usb:v*p*d*dc07dsc01dp03ic*isc*ip*
> alias:          usb:v*p*d*dc07dsc01dp02ic*isc*ip*
> alias:          usb:v*p*d*dc07dsc01dp01ic*isc*ip*
> depends:
> vermagic:       2.6.30-1-amd64 SMP mod_unload modversions
> parm:           proto_bias:Favourite protocol number (int)
>
>
> HTH
>
> Wayne
>
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Re: Emails [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-23 23:24, Kevin Ross wrote:

Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups)
where people can post/read messages, or is it done totally through
an e-mail list? IF through email, is there a 'daily digest' option
where I can receive only one email a day (containing all the day's
posts)? Or do I have to unsubscribe if I am going to be away for
even a few days so my inbox doesn't get clogged with list emails?
	 

If you go to http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ you can see the 
archives (kinda like Yahoo groups), and you can change your subscription 
to digest mode.  You can't post there, though.  You can only post 
through email (that I know of).


Usenet has a gateway.

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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-23 21:04, John Hasler wrote:

Ron Johnson writes:

BSD had to have a cc before gcc came along, no?


Yes.  It shipped with the non-free[1] pcc until 1994 when it was replaced
with gcc.


Interesting.  That must have been part of the fallout from The Lawsuit.

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RE: Emails [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Kevin Ross]

> Do you have a dedicated 'group' page (similar to yahoo groups)
> where people can post/read messages, or is it done totally through
> an e-mail list? IF through email, is there a 'daily digest' option
> where I can receive only one email a day (containing all the day's
> posts)? Or do I have to unsubscribe if I am going to be away for
> even a few days so my inbox doesn't get clogged with list emails?
 

If you go to http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ you can see the 
archives (kinda like Yahoo groups), and you can change your subscription 
to digest mode.  You can't post there, though.  You can only post 
through email (that I know of).
 
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Re: Kmail................ not fixed...

[Charlie]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:49:16 +0300 Dotan Cohen 
sent this information:


>> commited to KDE trunk? If the latter, could you please open a bug at
>
>/s/latter/former
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>http://gibberish.co.il

Using Gamin doesn't fix it Dotan.

I purged FAM from the system; aptitude stopped FAM, so maybe it was
running or that was just an explanation if it was running or not?

Installed Gamin but nothing has changed.

So I will do what you did and just get rid of Kmail again.

Thanks for your help with this.

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Re: Font (or color) problem on current unstable x86 box

[Chris Jones]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 07:10:31PM EDT, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 07:04:21AM EDT, David Goodenough wrote:
> 
> [..]

> > Several programs (the first was the new Eclipse Galileo, then
> > IceWeasel and now a locally compiled version of zenmap v5) have
> > started to come up with an error:-

> Since you compiled it, you have the source, right?
> 
> For starters, how about locating the function or whatever issues this
> tease of a message (font, color..? - what font/color..??) and fix it
> so that it provides the information everybody's been waiting for?

:-)

The message comes from libgdk -> gdkmain-x11.c - function gdk_x_error.
   ^
$ apt-get source libgtk2.0-0  # specify your system's version of libgtk

If you feel like debugging, this article will help:

  http://www.rahul.net/kenton/perrors.html

See also The Xlib Programming Manual 11.8.2:

  
http://tronche.com/gui/x/xlib/event-handling/protocol-errors/default-handlers.html

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Emails [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[John Hasler]

Ron Johnson writes:
> BSD had to have a cc before gcc came along, no?

Yes.  It shipped with the non-free[1] pcc until 1994 when it was replaced
with gcc.


[1] There is now a BSD-licensed pcc.
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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-23 19:51, Miles Fidelman wrote:

Neal Hogan wrote:

And thanks for reminding us of the essential role of gcc, glibc, and
binutils.  I'm too new to GNU/linux to remember.. but would anything
have been possible without them?



yes
  
well sure, if you were working on ITS or some other research operating 
system, otherwise, the price of commercial compilers and libc (say from 
Sun) were pretty high, and you ran into licensing issues re. libc


BSD had to have a cc before gcc came along, no?

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Re: Sadly... (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-22 13:28, S. Fishpaste wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:47:50 -0400, Tony Baldwin in gmane.linux.debian.user 
wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-07-21 09:59, Tim Tebbit wrote:
[snip]

Please keep a handle on top posting.


This is a lost battle, thanks to The Evil That Is GMail.


You don't HAVE to top post using gmail.
Note that I am using a gmail address (with imap via mutt or icedove, 
usually, but still, even with the web interface, it only takes a second 
to move one's cursor to the bottom of a message and trim accordingly.
Using gmail, or any other webmail, is a poor excuse for not taking two 
seconds to move the cursor and/or trim messages appropriately.



Agreed, even in the web interface Google provides an option to bottom post
via their options. One does have to set GMail to use plain text for that to
work though. Simple enough to do.



But even amongst the clueful, very few do that, as demonstrated by 
the top-posting on this list.


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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[Stefan Monnier]

> Saying GNU doesn't produce software is like saying Debian doesn't produce
> dpkg, apt-get, and aptitude.

There's a big difference: most GNU software was written first and then
integrated as part of the GNU project.


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Re: Moving to Sid (was Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?)

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-22 15:20, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:27:30 -0400, Damon wrote in message 
<1248190050.3741.40.ca...@dam-main>:



On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:03 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-07-21 08:46, Soren Orel wrote:

But where can I download SID?? I just can't find an e.g.:
"download amd64cd for sid"...:(

This is Debian, not Ubuntu!  Upgrading-in-place is Easy.

Presuming you have a good internet connection, this *should* be all 
you need to do:


1. Edit sources.list, replacing all lenny or stable references with
testing.


..you meant "sid" or "unstable", "testing" buys you Squeeze 
and whatever follows it, and you volonteer as a test user, 
for Debian. ;o)



2. # apt(itude) update && apt(itude) dist-upgrade

3. Reboot. to activate new kernel.

4. Edit sources.list, replacing testing with unstable.

5. # apt(itude) update && apt(itude) dist-upgrade

6. Reboot, to activate new kernel.


..steps 4, 5 and 6 are necessary why?  Me, I've 
always been successful going straight to Sid.


I always (not that I need to do it often) make the intermediate 
step.  Guess I'm just a Nervous Nelly about some things.


But then, when I *do* do it, it's always with a minimal system, 
where I wait until I'm on Sid to install the bulk of the packages.


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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-23 18:24, s. keeling wrote:

 :

  "s. keeling"  wrote:

 :

boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to
/var (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just
after S55something.

(No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode. I think it wants
to, but things fly by so fast that I can't see.)

Look on the bright side. You get to test your recovery procedures.

>>

 Monty Python references not appreciated at this moment...


Is this better:

  Pull out the CD-R to which you backed up your project directory.


CD-R???  Hahahahahaha.  That's s 1998.  Besides, they seem not 
to age very well.



  No, I'm not trying to be flippant.  For the past 50 years, people/
  organizations that don't make backups don't have any right to whine
  about lost data.


You're right.  That's why I've got external drives!

$ pydf -g /mnt/backups
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use%   Mounted on
/dev/mapper/b~vg-backup_lv 1834  854   886 46.6 [#..] /mnt/backups


 -- Ron Johnson 

  :-)  Tell me to STFU anytime.


Fortunately, science kicked me in the head: if the fs is clean, then 
something else must be forcing it to RO!!


So, I changed the grub "set root" lines to point to the real root 
device, and also told the boot line to mount root as rw instead of 
ro.  System up, and now I cooking with gas!


After, of course, I had to fiddle with the frickin net udev rules to 
force the new mobo's NIC to eth0 and then reboot...


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Tbird or vim (was Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...)

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-23 17:19, Chris Jones wrote:

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 02:33:02PM EDT, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

 Chris Jones  wrote:

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:58:32AM EDT, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:

boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var (which is 
part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after S55something.

(No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode. I think it wants to, but things 
fly by so fast that I can't see.)

CTRL+S .. maybe?

Tried that...


Also, wrapping at column 72 would help.

Blame Tbird.


Actually, turns out that it's my ISP's webmail.



No offence meant.. mutt+vim.. maybe?


I tried that, really, but one of the things that a GUI can do better 
than ncurses is informative little icons and small, easy-to-read, 
"boldable", variable-width text, which allows me to see more "stuff" 
(folder and subject lists) on-screen.


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Re: resize2fs: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-23 16:22, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

On Mon, Jul 20 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:


On 2009-07-20 21:29, Manoj Srivastava wrote:

On Sun, Jul 19 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:


On 2009-07-08 20:23, Miles Bader wrote:
[snip]

Hmm, my / is 290MB, though /tmp, /var, /boot, and /usr are all separate
partitions.

*Why*?  IOW, what benefit do you derive in 2009 (as opposed to 1989,
when disks weren't always large enough to hold it all) from splitting
these out?

Security?

/dev/sdb2   /   ext3
noatime,errors=remount-ro   0   1

Why device names instead of labels or UUIDs?


*Shrug*. Been a while, and it has been working form me for
 years. Why change?


Perfectly valid reason!!




/dev/sda1   /boot   ext3
noatime,rw,defaults,noauto  0   2

noauto?



Who the hell wants the braindead initramfs mucking around with a
 working boot system? It also ensures that I have to be actively
 thinking about modifying my boot process before changes happen.


YAPVR.

[snip]

Seems to me that this whole exercise is to ensure that /dev is in it's
own partition.


Layered security is always better than waiting for the silver
 bullet all secure mechanism. It is all about increasing the work factor
 for Mallory.


Bah!  *Everyone* knows that there's one simple solution to all 
problems!!


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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[Miles Fidelman]

Neal Hogan wrote:

And thanks for reminding us of the essential role of gcc, glibc, and
binutils.  I'm too new to GNU/linux to remember.. but would anything
have been possible without them?



yes
  
well sure, if you were working on ITS or some other research operating 
system, otherwise, the price of commercial compilers and libc (say from 
Sun) were pretty high, and you ran into licensing issues re. libc



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Re: resize2fs: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!

[Ron Johnson]

On 2009-07-22 10:02, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

In <4a665bf5.2090...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-07-21 11:51, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

In <4a655762.6020...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:

Then still I don't see the real gain to separating /usr and
/usr/local into their own partitions.

/usr is managed by the distribution I have installed currently.
/usr/local is managed by me, and moves with me when I change
distributions, like /home.

I just back it and then restore to new system... ;)


I don't have to wait for data to transfer or put additional stress on the 
hardware with reads/writes.  My /usr/local is < 1GiB, so it doesn't matter 
much.  /home stays much bigger, though.


We all have our own ways, huh...

I keep /home small ("only" 35MiB), and throw the large files, which 
can mostly be shared with others on the box or LAN in an LV 
/data/big/share.


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Re: How do I setup wireless network (READ THE DOCUMENTATION or be more specific with your questions)

[Kevin Ross]

Ogya Chief wrote:

> Is the firmware being loaded to the card correctly? Try something like
>
> $ grep firmware /var/log/syslog
>
> And look for messages that might indicate failure.
>
> -- Kevin
>
grep wl_apsta /var/log/syslog did not give any output. However, dmesg 
gave the following error message:

  b43-phy0: Broadcom 4312 WLAN found (core revision 15)
  b43-phy0 ERROR: FOUND UNSUPPORTED PHY (Analog 6, Type 5, Revision 1)

  b43: probe of ss60:0 failed with error -95
  Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [Features: PMLR, Firmware-ID: FW13]

What is the solution?


It appears that particular chipset is not supported by the b43 
open-source driver.  You have three alternatives:


1. Use the vendor-provided, non-open-source Linux driver.  See 
http://wiki.debian.org/wl
2. Use ndiswrapper.  This lets you use the Windows driver in Linux.  See 
http://wiki.debian.org/NdisWrapper

3. Buy a different wireless card.

Hope this help!
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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[Neal Hogan]

> And thanks for reminding us of the essential role of gcc, glibc, and
> binutils.  I'm too new to GNU/linux to remember.. but would anything
> have been possible without them?

yes

>
> CJ
>
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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[s. keeling]

 :
>   "s. keeling"  wrote:
> >  :
> > > boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to
> > > /var (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just
> > > after S55something.
> > >
> > > (No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode. I think it wants
> > > to, but things fly by so fast that I can't see.)
> >
> > Look on the bright side. You get to test your recovery procedures.
> 
>  Monty Python references not appreciated at this moment...

Is this better:

  Pull out the CD-R to which you backed up your project directory.

  No, I'm not trying to be flippant.  For the past 50 years, people/
  organizations that don't make backups don't have any right to whine
  about lost data.
 -- Ron Johnson 

  :-)  Tell me to STFU anytime.


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Re: sudo logging

[Chris Davies]

Berthold Cogel  wrote:
> We're doing somthing like this in /etc/sudoers:


> Cmnd_Alias  SHELLS =/bin/sh, \
>/bin/bash, \
[...]

> TRUSTED_USR  ALL = NOPASSWD:ALL ,!SHELLS, NOROOT

Surely this breaks trivially?

ln -s /bin/bash /tmp/somethingelse
sudo /tmp/somethingelse

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Re: Kmail................

[Charlie]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:48:50 +0300 Dotan Cohen 
sent this information:


>> 1) There is a long-standing bug - or feature request: kmail does not
>> start a new thread when downloading mail, so you have to wait for it
>> to finish. It can be long if you have lots of mail, or if you pass
>> the mail through anti-spam/anti-virus.
>>
>
>Do you have the bug number? This is the reason that I left Kmail.
>
>> 2) fam/libfam0 have a bug where it takes all of the cpu; if you have
>> a multi-core cpu, you may not notice that it's eating up your
>> processing time, but when kmail may be very slow in this case (it
>> seems to depend heavily on libfam). I've solved this problem
>> replacing famd by gamin (and libfam0 by libgamin0).
>>
>
>You do this on your friends' installs, or this is a fix that you have
>commited to KDE trunk? If the latter, could you please open a bug at
>KDE and explain the fix? Thanks!
>
>
>-- 
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>
>http://what-is-what.com
>http://gibberish.co.il

Thank you Dotan,

That's the problem obviously.

[Running Debian testing on a Acer Aspire 3610 not a multicore. Intel
Celeron M Processor 380 [1.6GHz, 400MHz FSB 1MB L2 cache]]

When my machine boots, it says: FAM and then in red: failed

Why FAM suddenly didn't work after an upgrade, I have no idea.

So FAM isn't running, apparently, and that must be the problem with
Kmail.

I never worried about it because in the days, some years ago, before I
discovered and could install Debain and used Mandrake, I actually
stopped FAM from running because it caused all manner of problems for
me. So seeing the above message thought it a blessing, but obviously
not for Kmail.

Didn't file a bug report because other than running top, and seeing the
stats there, to discover what was slowing my machine down, I couldn't
do anything but write about that limited observation. I had no idea
what Kmail was doing and why, just that it was causing me considerable
grief for ten or 15 minutes, though it seemed like hours.

Claws mail works fine without FAM though.

I will try to remove FAM and install Gamin, if I can, and see what
happens with Kmail before I uninstall it once more.

Thank you again.
Charlie
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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[Chris Jones]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 02:33:02PM EDT, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
>  Chris Jones  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:58:32AM EDT, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
> > > boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var 
> > > (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after 
> > > S55something.
> > >
> > > (No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode. I think it wants to, but 
> > > things fly by so fast that I can't see.)
> >
> > CTRL+S .. maybe?
> 
> Tried that...
> 
> > Also, wrapping at column 72 would help.
> 
> Blame Tbird.

No offence meant.. mutt+vim.. maybe?


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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[Chris Jones]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:46:09PM EDT, David L. Craig wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 07:23:02PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 04:27:05PM EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
> > > What the GNU project has done is give a name and a visibility,
> > > defined a set of guidelines (and licenses) and created the
> > > expectations that define both the Open Source and the Free
> > > Software movement.

> > Enlightening post. Thank you.
> 
> While I do agree with this perspective, I do think it tends
> to overly minimize the actual software the FSF produced and
> maintains, especially gcc and the binutils, which were and
> are absolutely essential for everything else.  I've said before
> that Linux' portability is gcc's portability, and for that
> reason alone, we do well to accomodate RMS' request for GNU
> attribution.

Come to think of it, maybe "food for thought" was closer to what I
meant.

And thanks for reminding us of the essential role of gcc, glibc, and
binutils.  I'm too new to GNU/linux to remember.. but would anything
have been possible without them?

CJ



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RE: How do I setup wireless network (READ THE DOCUMENTATION or be more specific with your questions)

[Ogya Chief]

> >
> > 
> Is the firmware being loaded to the card correctly?  Try something like
> 
> $ grep firmware /var/log/syslog
> 
> And look for messages that might indicate failure.
> 
> -- Kevin
> 
grep wl_apsta /var/log/syslog did not give any output. However, dmesg gave the 
following error message:
  b43-phy0: Broadcom 4312 WLAN found (core revision 15)
  b43-phy0 ERROR: FOUND UNSUPPORTED PHY (Analog 6, Type 5, Revision 1)

  b43: probe of ss60:0 failed with error -95
  Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [Features: PMLR, Firmware-ID: FW13]

What is the solution?

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[Jude DaShiell]

A friend and me used linuxprinting.org and openprinting.org and have 
foomatic and cups and the ppd file for this printer on my machine.  I got 
new ink cartridges for this printer from databaazar.com and we can make 
the printer do the self-test externally but even after foomatic is given 
the location of my new ppd file and foomatic updated configurations to 
what's in that file there two things this printer won't do.  You can't 
print a test page within linux g.u.i. interface and while trying to print 
garden variety text pages the printer only prints garbage none of which is 
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Re: resize2fs: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!

[Manoj Srivastava]

On Mon, Jul 20 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 2009-07-20 21:29, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> On Sun, Jul 19 2009, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-07-08 20:23, Miles Bader wrote:
>>> [snip]
 Hmm, my / is 290MB, though /tmp, /var, /boot, and /usr are all separate
 partitions.
>>> *Why*?  IOW, what benefit do you derive in 2009 (as opposed to 1989,
>>> when disks weren't always large enough to hold it all) from splitting
>>> these out?
>>
>> Security?
>>
>> /dev/sdb2/   ext3
>> noatime,errors=remount-ro   0   1
>
> Why device names instead of labels or UUIDs?

*Shrug*. Been a while, and it has been working form me for
 years. Why change?

>> /dev/sda1/boot   ext3
>> noatime,rw,defaults,noauto  0   2
>
> noauto?


Who the hell wants the braindead initramfs mucking around with a
 working boot system? It also ensures that I have to be actively
 thinking about modifying my boot process before changes happen.


>> /dev/mapper/anzu_main-usr_lv /usrext3
>> noatime,ro,defaults 0   2
>
> I understand why this is ro; why then is /boot rw?

Cause it is never mounted.

>> /dev/mapper/anzu_main-home_lv/home   ext3
>> noatime,rw,nosuid,nodev 0   2
>
> What does nodev mean?  (My google fu must be lacking.)  Is "Do not
> interpret character or block special devices on the file system." just
> extra security so that a rogue app doesn't try to create a device file
> anywhere but /dev?

So no one can create a device or a block char file elsewhere in
 the file system, yes.


>> /dev/mapper/anzu_main-ulocal_lv  /usr/local  ext3
>> noatime,rw,nosuid,nodev 0   2
>> /dev/mapper/anzu_main-var_lv /varext3
>> noatime,rw,nosuid   0   2
>> /dev/mapper/anzu_main-spool_lv   /var/spool  ext3
>> noatime,rw,nosuid,nodev 0   2
>
> Seems to me that this whole exercise is to ensure that /dev is in it's
> own partition.

Layered security is always better than waiting for the silver
 bullet all secure mechanism. It is all about increasing the work factor
 for Mallory.

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Re: How do I setup wireless network (READ THE DOCUMENTATION or be more specific with your questions)

[Kevin Ross]

Ogya Chief wrote:
I wrote that after installing  b43-fwcutter and extracting the 
firmware the wireless card still did not work. It was suggested that I 
configure it but I did not understand what the specific configuration 
the writer was referring to.




Is the firmware being loaded to the card correctly?  Try something like

$ grep firmware /var/log/syslog

And look for messages that might indicate failure.

-- Kevin


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RE: How do I setup wireless network (READ THE DOCUMENTATION or be more specific with your questions)

[Ogya Chief]

I do not know why the messages of my last two posts were deleted.

I wrote that after installing  b43-fwcutter and extracting the firmware the 
wireless card still did not work. It was suggested that I configure it but I 
did not understand what the specific configuration the writer was referring to.

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Re: rhythmbox issue

[Javier Barroso]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Preston
Boyington wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I did an upgrade the other day and now rhythmbox throws an error when it
> opens an mp3 (can't find codec?) then WILL eventually play.  Also it
> takes quite a while for it to start a new song after the previous is
> finished.
Perhaps installing "gnome-codec-install" can help

I think you need gstreamer0.10-lame, I'm not sure

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Re: Old .debs

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 23 July 2009 15:06:24 I Rattan wrote:
> Where can I find older .deb files for openoffice? I
> would like to install 2.4 or so (current installed
> version 3.1.1 has problems with display of .php
> files).

Which version of Debian are you using?  Lenny has OOo 2.4.1.

Lisi


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Re: How to tell if an m4a file is lossless

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

On Qui, 23 Jul 2009, Stefan Monnier wrote:

How can I tell (from a script) if some *.m4a file is using the AAC codec
or the ALAC codec?


One possibility is to use ffmpeg -i filename and then parse the  
output. (Grepping for the strings used in each codec should give the  
answer.)



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How to tell if an m4a file is lossless

[Stefan Monnier]

How can I tell (from a script) if some *.m4a file is using the AAC codec
or the ALAC codec?


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Re: Kmail................

[marc]

Dotan Cohen wrote:

>> 1) There is a long-standing bug - or feature request: kmail does not
>> start a new thread when downloading mail, so you have to wait for it to
>> finish. It can be long if you have lots of mail, or if you pass the mail
>> through anti-spam/anti-virus.
>>
>
> Do you have the bug number? This is the reason that I left Kmail.

What did you move to, Dotan?

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Re: Kmail................

[Tiago Saboga]

Andrei Popescu  writes:

> On Thu,23.Jul.09, 11:25:18, Tiago Saboga wrote:
>> >
>> > Do you have the bug number? This is the reason that I left Kmail.
>> 
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41514
>> 
>> It should be solved when the akonadi server replaces the internal pop
>> server. I do not know what's the state of kde 4 with respect to this.
>
> What pop server?

s/server/client/

Sorry.

Tiago.


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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[ron.l.johnson]

 "s. keeling"  wrote:
>  :
> > boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to
> > /var (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just
> > after S55something.
> >
> > (No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode. I think it wants
> > to, but things fly by so fast that I can't see.)
>
> Look on the bright side. You get to test your recovery procedures.

Monty Python references not appreciated at this moment...


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Re: APT configuration file

[Stefan Monnier]

> A previous poster stated to add this line to the "/etc/apt/apt.conf"
> file: APT::Install-Recommends "0"; . I would love to do that but I am
> unable as yet to find a file named /etc/apt/apt.conf.

In the Unix world, there is usually no difference between an empty
configuration file and a configuration file that's absent.
I believe this applies to /etc/apt/apt.conf as well.


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Re: RAID probs

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Glenn English  [2009.07.23.2023 +0200]:
> >From superblocks, which are scanned by the default auto-assembly
> >code.
> 
> Thanks, Martin, but I *hate* helpful software :-)

I am not 100% happy with the way mdadm does things right now. It's
"auto-magic" and I *hate* that too. Or rather: I love Debian for not
being auto-magic all over.

If you agree: http://bugs.debian.org/537993 ;)

> >mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdbX
> 
> Fixed. I was thinking it all had to do with setting the partition
> types to Linux RAID...

That would do the trick iff RAIDs were assembled by the kernel,
which only happens if md is compiled into the kernel (rather than
loaded from initrd as a module), which is not the case in vanilla
Debian, so feel free to set your partition types to /anything/ else.

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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[ron.l.johnson]

 Chris Jones  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:58:32AM EDT, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
> > boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var (which 
> > is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after S55something.
> >
> > (No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode. I think it wants to, but 
> > things fly by so fast that I can't see.)
>
> CTRL+S .. maybe?

Tried that...

> Also, wrapping at column 72 would help.

Blame Tbird.


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Re: Sadly...

[Teemu Likonen]

On 2009-07-23 17:46 (UTC), s. keeling wrote:

>>> vim (from mutt) also puts the cursor at the beginning.

> ... While emacs, called from mutt or slrn, puts it right at the start
> of the body text.  :-)

These command-line text editors have +n option to choose the starting
line number, like this:

emacsclient +12 file.txt
vim +12 file.txt
nano +12 file.txt


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rhythmbox issue

[Preston Boyington]

Hello all,

I did an upgrade the other day and now rhythmbox throws an error when it
opens an mp3 (can't find codec?) then WILL eventually play.  Also it
takes quite a while for it to start a new song after the previous is
finished.

All other system sounds, videos, game sounds play just fine.

I'm running squeeze (if I remember correctly) with debian.multimedia in
my sources.

I have an image (Clonezilla rocks!) from a few weeks back, but would
rather figure out the problem and correct it.

(apologies for not posting my 'ps aux'.  I'm away from the laptop.)


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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[ron.l.johnson]

 Johannes Wiedersich  wrote:
>
> ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
> > boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var
> > (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after
> > S55something.
>
> Just to exclude the obvious:
> what's the output of 'df' from the live CD? Maybe your partition is just
> filled up and thus the boot process can't write to it.
>
> Just guesswork, of course ;-)

Good thought, but no, it's 2/3 empty.


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Re: There is no signal coming from your computer..

[Timor Raiman]

Try disabling DPMS in the X setup.

This can happen when the x video driver does not tell the card to turn
on the DVI
signal when it returns from the DPMS-off state.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 19:29, Mathieu
Malaterre wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Bob McGowan
> wrote:
>>
>> mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>>  Everytime I go out for lunch and comes back to my desk I cannot get the
>>> screen to wake up. Apparently typing on the keyboard does not send any
>>> signal from the computer to the screen.
>>>
>>> Using:
>>> - debian 5.0
>>> - dell precision T7500
>>> - Display/Port cable
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>
>> If the computer is just using a screen saver, then keyboard input would
>> be all that's needed to "wake" it up.
>>
>> So, perhaps the system has been configured to suspend or hibernate.  To
>> get it back up, you need to press the 'power on' button.  The system
>> will find an image, either in RAM or in the swap partition, and will
>> reload it.
>
> Another debian-user reported having similar problems. In the morning when I
> get in, I do not have any problems. This seems to only appears on a shorted
> breaks. And my dell 2709W / DisplayPort clearly state: "There is no signal
> coming from your computer..."
>
> I'll see if I can use the 'Input Source' from the screen panel to wake the
> sceen up, without having to shut it down and then shut it up again.
>
> Thanks anyway
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>
>
>


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Re: Kmail................

[Andrei Popescu]

On Thu,23.Jul.09, 11:25:18, Tiago Saboga wrote:
> >
> > Do you have the bug number? This is the reason that I left Kmail.
> 
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41514
> 
> It should be solved when the akonadi server replaces the internal pop
> server. I do not know what's the state of kde 4 with respect to this.

What pop server?

Regards,
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Re: RAID probs

[Glenn English]

martin f krafft wrote:


From superblocks, which are scanned by the default auto-assembly
code.


Thanks, Martin, but I *hate* helpful software :-)

OTOH, when I installed it, I did tell it to assemble stuff...


mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdbX


Fixed. I was thinking it all had to do with setting the partition types 
to Linux RAID...


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Re: RAID probs

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Glenn English  [2009.07.23.1943 +0200]:
> I created md0, 1, and 2 RAID1 arrays with mdadm, containing
> partitions from missing and sdb. Then I changed my mind, but mdadm
> seems to be trying to put them together anyway, and I can't figure
> out where it's getting the info.

From superblocks, which are scanned by the default auto-assembly
code.

> I purged mdadm, deleted /etc/mdadm, grep -r'ed /etc and /boot for
> md0 (didn't fine any), find'ed /etc for "*md*" (nothing), zeroed
> the first 1 bytes of sdb, and rebooted. fdisk -l says there's
> no md*.

The superblocks are stored at the end of the disk. Sorry. ;)

> I'm sure it's going to be obvious in retrospect, but what's the
> --nuke_from_orbit switch for mdadm?

mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdbX

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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[s. keeling]

 :
>  boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to
>  /var (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just
>  after S55something.
> 
>  (No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode.  I think it wants
>  to, but things fly by so fast that I can't see.)
> 
>  Thanks
> 
>  P.S. - Yes, I see the irony in this email, based upon what I wrote
>  a couple of days ago questioning the need for separate
>  partitions...

Look on the bright side.  You get to test your recovery procedures.


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RAID probs

[Glenn English]

I created md0, 1, and 2 RAID1 arrays with mdadm, containing partitions 
from missing and sdb. Then I changed my mind, but mdadm seems to be 
trying to put them together anyway, and I can't figure out where it's 
getting the info.


I purged mdadm, deleted /etc/mdadm, grep -r'ed /etc and /boot for md0 
(didn't fine any), find'ed /etc for "*md*" (nothing), zeroed the first 
1 bytes of sdb, and rebooted. fdisk -l says there's no md*.


But when I apt-get install mdadm, it tries to create all 3 -- it claims 
to succeed with md0:



Starting MD monitoring service: mdadm --monitor.
Assembling MD array md0...done (degraded [1/2]).


and


sbox:/usr/local# ls /dev/md*
/dev/md0  /dev/md1  /dev/md2


and


sbox:/usr/local# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid1]
md0 : active raid1 sdb[0]
  625131776 blocks [2/1] [U_]
 
unused devices: 


I'm sure it's going to be obvious in retrospect, but what's the 
--nuke_from_orbit switch for mdadm?


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Re: Sadly...

[s. keeling]

Celejar :
>  On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:29:35 +0300
>  Andrei Popescu  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue,21.Jul.09, 21:01:22, Sven Joachim wrote:
> > > 
> > > The right position for the cursor when starting a reply is at the
> > > beginning of the quoted text so that you can 
> > > 
> > > - cut parts of it which are not interesting for your reply
> > > - easily scroll to a position in the text where you want to start a
> > >   reply, handy for the "inline quoting" style.
> > 
> > vim (from mutt) also puts the cursor at the beginning.
> 
>  Sylpheed does too, but all the way at the beginning, at the "On
>  $DATE ..." line.

... While emacs, called from mutt or slrn, puts it right at the start
of the body text.  :-)


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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[Patrick Ouellette]

Check file permissions on /etc/init.d scripts.  I just had a system I
upgraded where several critical init.d scripts lost the executable
flag.  This caused the symptom described, at the script that remounts
root as rw was affected.

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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[Chris Jones]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 09:58:32AM EDT, ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
> boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var (which 
> is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after S55something.
> 
> (No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode.  I think it wants to, but 
> things fly by so fast that I can't see.)

CTRL+S .. maybe?

Also, wrapping at column 72 would help.

CJ


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Re: FWD: Re: Network email draft

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> And what of the ideas contained therein?
> 

> --Original Message--
> From: lee 

> see http://www.webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php
> 
> 
Maybe if you stop top posting (even if only to this list), someone will
answer.

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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[David L. Craig]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 07:23:02PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 04:27:05PM EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > 
> > What the GNU project has done is give a name and a visibility, defined
> > a set of guidelines (and licenses) and created the expectations that
> > define both the Open Source and the Free Software movement.
> 
> Enlightening post. Thank you.

While I do agree with this perspective, I do think it tends
to overly minimize the actual software the FSF produced and
maintains, especially gcc and the binutils, which were and
are absolutely essential for everything else.  I've said before
that Linux' portability is gcc's portability, and for that
reason alone, we do well to accomodate RMS' request for GNU
attribution.

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Re: APT configuration file

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <864da6a10907221729y80d02d7sc66498536a7d4...@mail.gmail.com>, Kc9EYE 
wrote:
>So, where exactly is apt-config dump
>reading these configuration options from?

Both /etc/apt/apt.conf and /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/* plus maybe some defaults 
somewhere under /usr/share.

man 5 apt.conf
man 8 apt-config
man 5 apt_preferences
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Re: Old .debs

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I Rattan wrote:
> 
> Where can I find older .deb files for openoffice? I
> would like to install 2.4 or so (current installed
> version 3.1.1 has problems with display of .php
> files).

What happens, if you just rename .php to .txt? Does this work with OOo?

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Re: There is no signal coming from your computer..

[Mathieu Malaterre]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Bob McGowan wrote:

mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi there,

 Everytime I go out for lunch and comes back to my desk I cannot get the
screen to wake up. Apparently typing on the keyboard does not send any
signal from the computer to the screen.

Using:
- debian 5.0
- dell precision T7500
- Display/Port cable

Thanks,


If the computer is just using a screen saver, then keyboard input would
be all that's needed to "wake" it up.

So, perhaps the system has been configured to suspend or hibernate.  To
get it back up, you need to press the 'power on' button.  The system
will find an image, either in RAM or in the swap partition, and will
reload it.


Another debian-user reported having similar problems. In the morning when I get in, I do 
not have any problems. This seems to only appears on a shorted breaks. And my dell 2709W 
/ DisplayPort clearly state: "There is no signal coming from your computer..."

I'll see if I can use the 'Input Source' from the screen panel to wake the 
sceen up, without having to shut it down and then shut it up again.

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Re: Live CD says all fs clean, but...

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ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
> boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var
> (which is part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after
> S55something.

Just to exclude the obvious:
what's the output of 'df' from the live CD? Maybe your partition is just
filled up and thus the boot process can't write to it.

Just guesswork, of course ;-)

Good luck,
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Re: There is no signal coming from your computer..

[Bob McGowan]

mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
>  Everytime I go out for lunch and comes back to my desk I cannot get the
> screen to wake up. Apparently typing on the keyboard does not send any
> signal from the computer to the screen.
> 
> Using:
> - debian 5.0
> - dell precision T7500
> - Display/Port cable
> 
> Thanks,

If the computer is just using a screen saver, then keyboard input would
be all that's needed to "wake" it up.

So, perhaps the system has been configured to suspend or hibernate.  To
get it back up, you need to press the 'power on' button.  The system
will find an image, either in RAM or in the swap partition, and will
reload it.

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Re: Open Office question.

[Bob McGowan]

lee wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:12:40PM -0400, I Rattan wrote:
>> I did dist-upgrade and the new openffice (3.1)
>> and it does display a .php file (goal is to convert
>> to .txt), the older version did do this function.
> 
> What's the difference between a php file and a text file?
> 

Technically, nothing.  Except that PHP is an "executable" and the
application reading it could be configured to do something special, such
as provide language specific highlighting or even execute it.

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Re: Kmail................

[Tiago Saboga]

Dotan Cohen  writes:

>> 1) There is a long-standing bug - or feature request: kmail does not
>> start a new thread when downloading mail, so you have to wait for it
>> to finish. It can be long if you have lots of mail, or if you pass
>> the mail through anti-spam/anti-virus.
>>
>
> Do you have the bug number? This is the reason that I left Kmail.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41514

It should be solved when the akonadi server replaces the internal pop
server. I do not know what's the state of kde 4 with respect to this.

>> 2) fam/libfam0 have a bug where it takes all of the cpu; if you have
>> a multi-core cpu, you may not notice that it's eating up your
>> processing time, but when kmail may be very slow in this case (it
>> seems to depend heavily on libfam). I've solved this problem
>> replacing famd by gamin (and libfam0 by libgamin0).
>>
>
> You do this on your friends' installs, or this is a fix that you have
> commited to KDE trunk? If the latter, could you please open a bug at
> KDE and explain the fix? Thanks!

This is not a bug in kde, but in famd. And while I was looking for the
bug number in famd, I found that it has been solved recently - probably
only in unstable for now -, after 5 years. Anyway, I am already
using gamin for over a year now (IIRC) and have had no problems with it,
so I see no reason to come back to famd.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=252896

Cheers,

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Re: Old .debs

[Kumar Appaiah]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:06:24AM -0400, I Rattan wrote:
>
> Where can I find older .deb files for openoffice? I
> would like to install 2.4 or so (current installed
> version 3.1.1 has problems with display of .php
> files).

Maybe http://snapshot.debian.net would help.

HTH.

Kumar


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Old .debs

[I Rattan]

Where can I find older .deb files for openoffice? I
would like to install 2.4 or so (current installed
version 3.1.1 has problems with display of .php
files).

-ishwar


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Re: APT configuration file

[Brian]

On Thu 23 Jul 2009 at 06:37:24 -0500, Kc9EYE wrote:

>  What is the name of the file that
> apt-config reads when there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf file?

There is no extra config file on the system. apt-config displays initialisation
values set in the source file init.cc.


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Re: Debian Lenny amd64 hangs when loading parport module

[Wayne Topa]

Jose Perez wrote:

Hi all:

I recently bought a new PC like this:

Printer: HP Deskjet 920c (connected via USB cable)
Mainboard: MSI K9A2 Neo2 (This mainboard doesn't have a parallel port)
Processor: AMD Phenom X4
RAM: 8 GB
OS: Debian Lenny 5.0.2 amd64

After installing some base packages I installed cups and when it tried
to start CUPS daemon it hanged the whole system. I started to search
for the source of the problem and I found that when CUPS daemons start
it loads lp and parport modules (the later as a dependency of lp).

Everytime I try to load parport module the system hangs inmediately.
It happens the same when trying to load any module that depends of
parport. I'm not really sure if parport is it mandatory to start cups
but the LSB script tries to load lp and ppdev.

I tried to see log messages but I just found this at /var/log/messages
after loading lp module:

Jul 22 15:15:17 angel kernel: [  455.78] lp: driver loaded but no
devices found
Jul 22 15:15:17 angel kernel: [  455.804449] ppdev: user-space
parallel port driver

I can't see any segmentation fault nor kernel panic nor anything like
that, it seems that everything is OK but the system is freezed.

Does anybody here had a similar experience before? Could someone give
an idea to solve this issue? I don't know what to do 'cause I don't
even use a parallel port, I use USB port :(

Thanks



Have you loaded the USB modules for printing?

I switched motherboards and the new MB has no parallel port so I use a 
USB to parallel converter.  I had to load the usblp module to get 
printing to work.


modinfo usblp
filename: 
/lib/modules/2.6.30-1-amd64/kernel/drivers/usb/class/usblp.ko

license:GPL
description:USB Printer Device Class driver
author: Michael Gee, Pavel Machek, Vojtech Pavlik, Randy 
Dunlap, 		Pete Zaitcev, David Paschal

alias:  usb:v04B8p0202d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v*p*d*dc*dsc*dp*ic07isc01ip03*
alias:  usb:v*p*d*dc*dsc*dp*ic07isc01ip02*
alias:  usb:v*p*d*dc*dsc*dp*ic07isc01ip01*
alias:  usb:v*p*d*dc07dsc01dp03ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v*p*d*dc07dsc01dp02ic*isc*ip*
alias:  usb:v*p*d*dc07dsc01dp01ic*isc*ip*
depends:
vermagic:   2.6.30-1-amd64 SMP mod_unload modversions
parm:   proto_bias:Favourite protocol number (int)


HTH

Wayne


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Live CD says all fs clean, but...

[ron.l.johnson]

boot procedure still mounts / as RO, and so "it" can't write to /var (which is 
part of /) and thus the boot process freezes just after S55something.

(No, it doesn't drop me into single-user mode.  I think it wants to, but things 
fly by so fast that I can't see.)

Thanks

P.S. - Yes, I see the irony in this email, based upon what I wrote a couple of 
days ago questioning the need for separate partitions...


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Re: APT configuration file

[Wayne Topa]

Kc9EYE wrote:

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Cameron Hutchison wrote:

Just create it with the line you want. No other contents are needed.

The man page for apt.conf(5) describes the syntax of the file and the
configuration parameters used by apt.


Thanks for the quick replies. Yes I will copy the apt.conf from the
examples and modify that, but this doesn't answer the question that
there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf configuration file and yet apt-config
dumps configuration data to the screen that it has read from
somewhere. Where is this "default" configuration data being read from?
This is an up to date Lenny install upgraded directly from etch. Apt
has not been manually configured, so this is the default configuration
that apt was installed with. What is the name of the file that
apt-config reads when there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf file?



Honestly, I don't know.  I haven't used apt-get since aptitude was
recommended over it some time ago.

'locate default |grep aptitude' does show default files for aptitude, 
but I don't see any for apt-get.


A quick look at the apt-get man page shows some of the defaults.
'man apt-get |grep default'

If you really want to know you can get the source for apt-config and 
figure it out from that.



Waybe


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Re: Kmail................

[Dotan Cohen]

> commited to KDE trunk? If the latter, could you please open a bug at

/s/latter/former

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Re: Kmail................

[Dotan Cohen]

> 1) There is a long-standing bug - or feature request: kmail does not
> start a new thread when downloading mail, so you have to wait for it to
> finish. It can be long if you have lots of mail, or if you pass the mail
> through anti-spam/anti-virus.
>

Do you have the bug number? This is the reason that I left Kmail.

> 2) fam/libfam0 have a bug where it takes all of the cpu; if you have a
> multi-core cpu, you may not notice that it's eating up your processing
> time, but when kmail may be very slow in this case (it seems to depend
> heavily on libfam). I've solved this problem replacing famd by gamin
> (and libfam0 by libgamin0).
>

You do this on your friends' installs, or this is a fix that you have
commited to KDE trunk? If the latter, could you please open a bug at
KDE and explain the fix? Thanks!


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Re: Kmail................

[Tiago Saboga]

Charlie  writes:
> Haven't used Kmail for some months, maybe a year, but decided to try it
> again a couple of days ago.
>
> It appears to be a huge resource hog, and doesn't respond for some time
> as it does something which I can't detect, sometimes using 20% of my
> CPU and 10% of the RAM.
>
> I've cut out as many of it's processes as I can but that makes
> no difference to it's slug like operation.
>
> I'm just curious; wonder - is this what should be expected from
> Kmail from now on, only so that if this is going to be the way it runs,
> I won't waste my time with it again.

I do not use kmail, but but I recommend it and install it for new users,
and normally it has not this kind of problems. But I know two cases
where it can hang:

1) There is a long-standing bug - or feature request: kmail does not
start a new thread when downloading mail, so you have to wait for it to
finish. It can be long if you have lots of mail, or if you pass the mail
through anti-spam/anti-virus.

2) fam/libfam0 have a bug where it takes all of the cpu; if you have a
multi-core cpu, you may not notice that it's eating up your processing
time, but when kmail may be very slow in this case (it seems to depend
heavily on libfam). I've solved this problem replacing famd by gamin
(and libfam0 by libgamin0).

Tiago.


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Re: APT configuration file

[Rustam]

On Thu, 2009-07-23 at 06:37 -0500, Kc9EYE wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> > Just create it with the line you want. No other contents are needed.
> >
> > The man page for apt.conf(5) describes the syntax of the file and the
> > configuration parameters used by apt.
> 
> Thanks for the quick replies. Yes I will copy the apt.conf from the
> examples and modify that, but this doesn't answer the question that
> there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf configuration file and yet apt-config
> dumps configuration data to the screen that it has read from
> somewhere. Where is this "default" configuration data being read from?
> This is an up to date Lenny install upgraded directly from etch. Apt
> has not been manually configured, so this is the default configuration
> that apt was installed with. What is the name of the file that
> apt-config reads when there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf file?
> Thanks,
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> for humans, at the end of the day is 100%."
> K.C. Cole (from The Universe and the Teacup)
> 

IMO, it reads all config files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
plus apt.conf if exists

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Re: How to create"official" off-line repository

[Hai Zaar]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Lubos Rendek wrote:
>> Do you suggest installing apt-proxy on LAN that is not connected to
>> Internet and do what?
> maybe this can help...
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/406#comment_4
That is an interesting idea. I've also found apt-mirror, although its
not exactly what I want as well.
Thanks for help, I'll keep scratching my head.

>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Hai Zaar wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Lubos Rendek wrote:
>>> have you tried apt-proxy : http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/#Introduction
>
>>
>>>
>>> lubos
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Hai Zaar wrote:
 Good day dear list!

 I work for organisation that has its development network off-line and
 I want to setup a Debian with current Lenny release.
 Creating on-line mirror and bringing it in on USB disk is not an
 option due to security measures.

 What do you suggest?
 I can download binary DVDs, merge them into single file tree, rebuild
 Packages/Release files with reprepro or similar, but... the repository
 will not be signed and I guess net-install CD will complain. Even if I
 sign it myself, I will need to remaster installer CD to include the
 correct key.

 So, Is there any way to reconstruct officially signed repository from
 DVDs, or am I just on a really wrong way on achieving my goal?

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Re: RAID1 file corruption(?)

[steves]

So far so good with the Samsung F1 drives.  Though admittedly I haven't 
been transferring as large of files with it yet.

Steve

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:50:24AM -0600, lee wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 06:05:16PM -0500, Steve wrote:
> 
> > I'm hoping the problem will be solved with two new hard drives arriving 
> > tomorrow.  This machine isn't in production yet so I'll swap out the 
> > hard drives and try again.
> 
> How did it turn out?


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There is no signal coming from your computer..

[mathieu . malaterre]

Hi there,

 Everytime I go out for lunch and comes back to my desk I cannot get the screen 
to wake up. Apparently typing on the keyboard does not send any signal from the 
computer to the screen.

Using:
- debian 5.0
- dell precision T7500
- Display/Port cable

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Re: APT configuration file

[Kc9EYE]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Cameron Hutchison wrote:
> Just create it with the line you want. No other contents are needed.
>
> The man page for apt.conf(5) describes the syntax of the file and the
> configuration parameters used by apt.

Thanks for the quick replies. Yes I will copy the apt.conf from the
examples and modify that, but this doesn't answer the question that
there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf configuration file and yet apt-config
dumps configuration data to the screen that it has read from
somewhere. Where is this "default" configuration data being read from?
This is an up to date Lenny install upgraded directly from etch. Apt
has not been manually configured, so this is the default configuration
that apt was installed with. What is the name of the file that
apt-config reads when there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf file?
Thanks,

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Re: Is it a bug: huge dependency problems of php5 and ikiwiki

[Xan]

En/na Wouter Verhelst ha escrit:

The issue is that php5 depends on "libapache2-mod-php5 |
libapache2-mod-php5filter | php5-cgi"; i.e., it does allow you to do
this, but *by default* will depend on the apache versions.

If you wish to use PHP5 with cherokee, you need to explicitly select
php5-cgi, like so:

apt-get install cherokee php5-cgi

That should fix your problem.

  

Okay.

Thanks,
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Re: Is it a bug: huge dependency problems of php5 and ikiwiki

[Wouter Verhelst]

(this really isn't Debian-arm specific; please direct follow-ups, if
any, to the debian-user mailinglist)

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 05:11:43PM +0200, Xan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a NSLU2 device (armel computer). With Debian 5.0.2 installed.
> I cannot use reportbug because exim4 is not configured properly
> but it's not the story.
> 
> I have two possible bugs of too much dependencies:
> 
> 
> 1) When I want to install php5, apt install me apache2 packages. I
> think that php5 should depend on www-server not specifically on
> apache.

The issue is that php5 depends on "libapache2-mod-php5 |
libapache2-mod-php5filter | php5-cgi"; i.e., it does allow you to do
this, but *by default* will depend on the apache versions.

If you wish to use PHP5 with cherokee, you need to explicitly select
php5-cgi, like so:

apt-get install cherokee php5-cgi

That should fix your problem.

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Re: MTA experts: address rewriting depending on next hop

[Siggy Brentrup]

Oops, this one slipped by me since I have moved the question to
d-devel, sorry for not Ccing d-user.

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 16:10 -0600, lee wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 01:03:01PM +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
> > 
> > Here's the question again: which one of the abundance of MTAs in
> > Debian is capable of address rewriting depending on destination?  
> 
> Exim4 can do this.

Nope, cf thread on d-devel, should be in the archives. 

> If I understand you right, you want to rewrite the addresses of mail
> that is outgoing to hosts not on your LAN --- but you do not want to
> rewrite the addresses of mail outgoing to other hosts on your LAN.

exactly, frankly spoken after >12 hours w/o useful response I didn't
expect d-u to be the right place to ask this question.

> If that's what you want, you probably need to rewrite the addresses of
> all mail that doesn't go to the domain used on your LAN. I assume that
> you are running your own name server for the LAN --- if you don't, you
> should. 

Sure I do, a combination of djbdns & dnsmasq for a records generated
on the fly.

> But then, why do you need to rewrite the addresses? 

Look at the Received: headers in my mails, afaict winnegan.fake is no
valid domain outside my lan and using outside  would provoke harsh
reactions.

> Do you want to use one host that does address rewriting as a
> smarthost, or do you want to do address rewriting on all hosts on
> the LAN?

The smarthost is responsible for rewriting.

> > I'm not to lazy to read documentation, but if at all possible not for
> > all MTAs.

> The documentation of Exim4 is outstanding. I haven't seen any better
> for anything yet.

It's really good now but I switched to postfix >5 years ago and still
don't see a reason to change my preferred MTA.

thanks for your response
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Kmail................

[Charlie]

Haven't used Kmail for some months, maybe a year, but decided to try it
again a couple of days ago.

It appears to be a huge resource hog, and doesn't respond for some time
as it does something which I can't detect, sometimes using 20% of my
CPU and 10% of the RAM.

I've cut out as many of it's processes as I can but that makes
no difference to it's slug like operation.

I'm just curious; wonder - is this what should be expected from
Kmail from now on, only so that if this is going to be the way it runs,
I won't waste my time with it again.

Back to Claws Mail.

TIA
Charlie
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Re: How do I setup wireless network (READ THE DOCUMENTATION or be more specific with your questions)

[Neal Hogan]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, thirstyh2o wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:57:07 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 23 Jul 2009, thirstyh2o wrote:
>>>
 On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 02:56:51 +0200, Ogya Chief wrote:

> _ More
> than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™.
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/

 I wonder why you last 2 post are empty?
>>>
>>> He/she is depending on the suject line.
>>
>> didn't get what you were saying.
>
> It looks like he is depending on the subject line to convey his question.
>
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Re: How to create"official" off-line repository

[Lubos Rendek]

> Do you suggest installing apt-proxy on LAN that is not connected to
> Internet and do what?
maybe this can help...
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/406#comment_4

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Hai Zaar wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Lubos Rendek wrote:
>> have you tried apt-proxy : http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/#Introduction

>
>>
>> lubos
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Hai Zaar wrote:
>>> Good day dear list!
>>>
>>> I work for organisation that has its development network off-line and
>>> I want to setup a Debian with current Lenny release.
>>> Creating on-line mirror and bringing it in on USB disk is not an
>>> option due to security measures.
>>>
>>> What do you suggest?
>>> I can download binary DVDs, merge them into single file tree, rebuild
>>> Packages/Release files with reprepro or similar, but... the repository
>>> will not be signed and I guess net-install CD will complain. Even if I
>>> sign it myself, I will need to remaster installer CD to include the
>>> correct key.
>>>
>>> So, Is there any way to reconstruct officially signed repository from
>>> DVDs, or am I just on a really wrong way on achieving my goal?
>>>
>>> --
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Re: How to create"official" off-line repository

[Hai Zaar]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
>
> Did you try to loop-mount DVD images, that way round you have a working
> signed official repo at your hands ?
Same problem - Release files on DVDs are not signed - I will again get
unsigned repo.

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Re: [OT] GNU - Linux and Debian.......

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <2009074953.ga29...@codelibre.net>, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> I write software specifically for Debian as a
>> Debian Developer (schroot, sbuild and other bits).  I'd say that those
>> were created by Debian, as is all software created by DDs in their
>> project role.
> 
> Debian did not remunerate those developers for that specific effort, nor 
> does it (as an organization) hold any legal claim to the software.
> 
> That's all I meant by "Debian doesn't create much software".  I wasn't 
> trying to discount the software written by DDs to satisfy Debian needs.  
> (/me loves my cowbuilder setups.)

The problem with your approach is that you put something like a
corporate yardstick (which software/line of code bears a certain
label/brand) on something that is anything but corporate, namely a
community effort. Debian is a community project and I'd say that
everything someone does with her/his Debian hat on is part of Debian.
You don't have to be a DD to submit patches via the bts, but if you do,
you contribute to Debian. If you google something on almost any piece of
free software, chances are that you'll find links to this mailing list,
 ie. to support provided by the Debian project.

By its nature free software is free, so brand marks and labels are not
applied to the software or lines thereof (apart from the licence
information, but there is no Debian licence or such). I don't think
there will be any objective, scriptable way to quantify the amount of
code produced by Debian or any other distribution. If a DD is also a
kernel developer, does his/her contribution count as work for Debian or
work for the kernel team? There is no way to give a simple, definite
answer to that question, IMHO.

Cheers,
Johannes
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Re: How to create"official" off-line repository

[Siggy Brentrup]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:18 +0300, Hai Zaar wrote:
> Good day dear list!
> 
> I work for organisation that has its development network off-line and
> I want to setup a Debian with current Lenny release.
> Creating on-line mirror and bringing it in on USB disk is not an
> option due to security measures.
> 
> What do you suggest?
> I can download binary DVDs, merge them into single file tree, rebuild
> Packages/Release files with reprepro or similar, but... the repository
> will not be signed and I guess net-install CD will complain. Even if I
> sign it myself, I will need to remaster installer CD to include the
> correct key.
> 
> So, Is there any way to reconstruct officially signed repository from
> DVDs, or am I just on a really wrong way on achieving my goal?

Did you try to loop-mount DVD images, that way round you have a working
signed official repo at your hands ?  

Siggy
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Re: How to create"official" off-line repository

[Hai Zaar]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Lubos Rendek wrote:
> have you tried apt-proxy : http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/#Introduction
Do you suggest installing apt-proxy on LAN that is not connected to
Internet and do what?

>
> lubos
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:18 PM, Hai Zaar wrote:
>> Good day dear list!
>>
>> I work for organisation that has its development network off-line and
>> I want to setup a Debian with current Lenny release.
>> Creating on-line mirror and bringing it in on USB disk is not an
>> option due to security measures.
>>
>> What do you suggest?
>> I can download binary DVDs, merge them into single file tree, rebuild
>> Packages/Release files with reprepro or similar, but... the repository
>> will not be signed and I guess net-install CD will complain. Even if I
>> sign it myself, I will need to remaster installer CD to include the
>> correct key.
>>
>> So, Is there any way to reconstruct officially signed repository from
>> DVDs, or am I just on a really wrong way on achieving my goal?
>>
>> --
>> Zaar
>>
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