Re: Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:48:23 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:

(...)

> (EE) XKB: Could not invoke xkbcomp
> (EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap
> XKB: Failed to compile keymap
> Keyboard initialization failed. This could be a missing or incorrect
> setup of xkeyboard-config.
> 
> Fatal server error:
> Failed to activate core devices.

It seems to be an error of the whole X system, which cannot start because 
it fails to initilize mouse and keyboard modules.

I'm not sure how to bypass this, maybe you are hitting a sort of bug 
here :-?

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Re: Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

[Berni Elbourn]

Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:


Hi!

I am trying to setup Lenny as dom0. However I cannot get the X server to 
start. I have tried drivers vesa, nv and nvidia. The latter causes the 
system to hang. Here is my output from driver nv. The output from vesa 
is similar (has the same errors).


Many thanks in advance!
Panayiotis

X.Org X Server 1.7.7
Release Date: 2010-05-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux smyrna 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 
1 06:38:33 UTC 2010 x86_64

Kernel command line: root=/dev/mapper/lvm0-root ro quiet nomodeset
Build Date: 03 June 2010  03:01:44PM
xorg-server 2:1.7.7-2 (Julien Cristau )
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jul 16 08:38:20 2010
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Configured Monitor"
(==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen".
Using the first device section listed.
(**) |   |-->Device "Configured Video Device"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" 
does not exist.

Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.

(II) Loader magic: 0x7c5e80
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI: (0:0:3:5) 10de:0aa3:1734:1151 nVidia Corporation MCP79 
Co-processor rev 177, Mem @ 0xf050/524288
(--) PCI:*(0:2:0:0) 10de:086f:1734:1151 nVidia Corporation C79 [GeForce 
9200M G] rev 177, Mem @ 0xcc00/16777216, 0xd000/268435456, 
0xce00/33554432, I/O @ 0x4000/128

(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
(II) NVIDIA GLX Module  195.36.24  Thu Apr 22 19:52:00 PDT 2010
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading exten

Re: Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

[Mark Allums]

On 7/16/2010 12:48 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:

Hi!

I am trying to setup Lenny as dom0. However I cannot get the X server to
start. I have tried drivers vesa, nv and nvidia. The latter causes the
system to hang. Here is my output from driver nv. The output from vesa
is similar (has the same errors).

Many thanks in advance!
Panayiotis



Consider trying out the nvidia-glx driver.  Install it using 
module-assistant:


update-pciids
apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source
m-a prepare
m-a clean nvidia
m-a a-i nvidia
apt-get install nvidia-glx
depmod -a
modprobe nvidia

 This is only necessary if you start to use nvidia for the first time:

dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg


(I don't know if all these steps will be necessary for you, the 
update-pciids step in particular may be redundant, but it doesn't hurt 
anything.  I took this from

http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/nvidia.html )

Let us know if it works.  Or not.


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Re: Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

[Jordon Bedwell]

On 7/16/2010 1:26 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
> Hi and thanks!
> This is my xorg.conf
> 
> # xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
>  ...

Run: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
>From terminal.
Install Nvidia drivers: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers



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Re: Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

[Panayiotis Karabassis]

On 07/16/2010 09:15 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:

On 7/16/2010 1:06 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
   

On 7/16/2010 12:48 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
 

Hi!

I am trying to setup Lenny as dom0. However I cannot get the X server to
start. I have tried drivers vesa, nv and nvidia. The latter causes the
system to hang. Here is my output from driver nv. The output from vesa
is similar (has the same errors).

Many thanks in advance!
Panayiotis

SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling in X server
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not
found)
(II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 338 x 211
(EE) XKB: Could not invoke xkbcomp
(EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap
XKB: Failed to compile keymap
Keyboard initialization failed. This could be a missing or incorrect
setup of xkeyboard-config.

Fatal server error:
Failed to activate core devices.

Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
  at http://wiki.x.org
  for help.
Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional
information.

   

I know this might seem like a dumb question, but did you install the
OpenSource Nvidia drivers? Or even the Nvidia drivers from Nvidia
themselves and make sure they were working and tested correctly?


 

Sorry, sound like an idiot, it seems you did. What are the contents of
your xorg.conf and after you installed nvidia-glx and it failed did you
try running: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from console?

   

Hi and thanks!
This is my xorg.conf

# xorg.conf (X.Org X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier"Generic Keyboard"
Driver"kbd"
Option"XkbRules""xorg"
Option"XkbModel""pc105"
Option"XkbLayout""us,gr"
Option"XkbOptions""grp:alt_shift_toggle"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier"Configured Mouse"
Driver"mouse"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier"Configured Video Device"
Driver "nv"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier"Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier"Default Screen"
Monitor"Configured Monitor"
EndSection


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Re: Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

[Jordon Bedwell]

On 7/16/2010 1:06 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
> On 7/16/2010 12:48 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> I am trying to setup Lenny as dom0. However I cannot get the X server to
>> start. I have tried drivers vesa, nv and nvidia. The latter causes the
>> system to hang. Here is my output from driver nv. The output from vesa
>> is similar (has the same errors).
>>
>> Many thanks in advance!
>> Panayiotis
>>
>> SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling in X server
>> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not
>> found)
>> (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 338 x 211
>> (EE) XKB: Could not invoke xkbcomp
>> (EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap
>> XKB: Failed to compile keymap
>> Keyboard initialization failed. This could be a missing or incorrect
>> setup of xkeyboard-config.
>>
>> Fatal server error:
>> Failed to activate core devices.
>>
>> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
>>  at http://wiki.x.org
>>  for help.
>> Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional
>> information.
>>
> 
> I know this might seem like a dumb question, but did you install the
> OpenSource Nvidia drivers? Or even the Nvidia drivers from Nvidia
> themselves and make sure they were working and tested correctly?
> 
> 

Sorry, sound like an idiot, it seems you did. What are the contents of
your xorg.conf and after you installed nvidia-glx and it failed did you
try running: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from console?

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Re: Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

[Jordon Bedwell]

On 7/16/2010 12:48 AM, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I am trying to setup Lenny as dom0. However I cannot get the X server to
> start. I have tried drivers vesa, nv and nvidia. The latter causes the
> system to hang. Here is my output from driver nv. The output from vesa
> is similar (has the same errors).
> 
> Many thanks in advance!
> Panayiotis
> 
> SELinux: Disabled on system, not enabling in X server
> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not
> found)
> (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 338 x 211
> (EE) XKB: Could not invoke xkbcomp
> (EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap
> XKB: Failed to compile keymap
> Keyboard initialization failed. This could be a missing or incorrect
> setup of xkeyboard-config.
> 
> Fatal server error:
> Failed to activate core devices.
> 
> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
>  at http://wiki.x.org
>  for help.
> Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional
> information.
> 

I know this might seem like a dumb question, but did you install the
OpenSource Nvidia drivers? Or even the Nvidia drivers from Nvidia
themselves and make sure they were working and tested correctly?


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Nvidia card and Xen in lenny

[Panayiotis Karabassis]

Hi!

I am trying to setup Lenny as dom0. However I cannot get the X server to 
start. I have tried drivers vesa, nv and nvidia. The latter causes the 
system to hang. Here is my output from driver nv. The output from vesa 
is similar (has the same errors).


Many thanks in advance!
Panayiotis

X.Org X Server 1.7.7
Release Date: 2010-05-04
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 x86_64 Debian
Current Operating System: Linux smyrna 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 
1 06:38:33 UTC 2010 x86_64

Kernel command line: root=/dev/mapper/lvm0-root ro quiet nomodeset
Build Date: 03 June 2010  03:01:44PM
xorg-server 2:1.7.7-2 (Julien Cristau )
Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Jul 16 08:38:20 2010
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
(==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
(==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
(**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
(**) |   |-->Monitor "Configured Monitor"
(==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen".
Using the first device section listed.
(**) |   |-->Device "Configured Video Device"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" 
does not exist.

Entry deleted from font path.
(==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
built-ins
(==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.

(II) Loader magic: 0x7c5e80
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI: (0:0:3:5) 10de:0aa3:1734:1151 nVidia Corporation MCP79 
Co-processor rev 177, Mem @ 0xf050/524288
(--) PCI:*(0:2:0:0) 10de:086f:1734:1151 nVidia Corporation C79 [GeForce 
9200M G] rev 177, Mem @ 0xcc00/16777216, 0xd000/268435456, 
0xce00/33554432, I/O @ 0x4000/128

(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
(II) NVIDIA GLX Module  195.36.24  Thu Apr 22 19:52:00 PDT 2010
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri.so
(II) Module dri: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DRI
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "nv"

[Solved] Re: Scim and iceweasel

[H.S.]

On 12/07/10 01:50 PM, H.S. wrote:
> On 06/07/10 05:53 PM, Lisi wrote:
>>
>> I may not have time to do this tomorrow - and must get myself to bed now 
>> before I fall asleep at the keyboard.  :-(   But I'll do it in the 
>> foreseeable future.
>>
>> Lisi
> 
> I just reinstalled my system (replace a faulty hard disk). Regarding
> scim, I installed these:
>  dpkg -l '*s[ck]im*' | grep ^i
> ii  libscim8c2a  1.4.9-2
>library for SCIM platform
> ii  libskim0 1.4.5-4.1
>skim runtime library
> ii  scim 1.4.9-2
>smart common input method platform
> ii  scim-bridge-agent0.4.16-2
>IME server of scim-bridge communicate with S
> ii  scim-bridge-client-gtk   0.4.16-2
>IME server of scim-bridge communicate with S
> ii  scim-gtk2-immodule   1.4.9-2
>GTK+2 input method module with SCIM as backe
> ii  scim-m17n0.2.3-1
>M17N Input Method Engine for SCIM
> ii  scim-modules-socket  1.4.9-2
>socket modules for SCIM platform
> ii  skim 1.4.5-4.1
>smart common input method platform for KDE
> 
> 
> Now I have the skim applet on my KDE panel but I am not able to switch
> the languages. I have done no other modifications in any files though. I
> was hoping that using scim (in KDE, using skim?) would be quite
> straightforward. Could you show some insights on how to get it to work
> in KDE, hopefully without having to edit any text files?


On a newly installed amd64 Testing system, it was quite simple to get
scim working in KDE.

STEP 1:
I installed the following packages: scim, scim-tables,
scim-tables-additional (other tables may need to be intalled depending
on what layout one requires), followed by the corresponding ttf fonts.

If I started scim now (using "scim -d" command), I could get the gray
keyboard icon on the KDE panel but no choice of input by left clicking
on it.

STEP 2:
Next, based on
http://lorenzod8n.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/setting-up-scim-on-debian/, I
put these lines in my ~/.bashrc:
#for scim
export XMODIFIERS='@im=SCIM'
export GTK_IM_MODULE="scim"
export QT_IM_MODULE="scim"


Then I killed all the currently running scim process (list them by "ps
aux | grep scim" and kill them all).

Then I sourced the .bashrc file (to set the variables; you could also
just relogin) from a terminal and restarted scim (from the same
terminal) using:
$> scim -d

After a few seconds the gray keyboard icon appeared on my KDE panel and
I was able to get a list of input methods by left-clicking on it.


The surprising thing was that installing skim froze my logging in to
KDE. After entering my password on the log in screen, the desktop never
appeared, the login process appears to hang. I remove skim after that
and was able to log in to KDE in the normal manner.

In short, installing and running scim on Debian is just a matter
installed scim, the relevant tables, the relevant fonts, and setting the
three variables in ~/.bashrc and restarting scim in daemon mode.



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debian repo for squeeze got problem?

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

Just a few minutes ago, when I ran "aptitude update":

/usr/bin/lzma: Decoder error
Err http://debian.nctu.edu.tw squeeze/non-free
Packages
  Sub-process /usr/bin/lzma returned an error code (1)
Fetched 202kB in 2min 48s
(1,202B/s)
W: GPG error: http://dl.google.com stable Release: The following signatures
were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
W: GPG error: http://debian.nctu.edu.tw squeeze Release: The following
signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org squeeze/updates Release: The
following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2

even the security repo?

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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Jordon Bedwell]

On 7/15/2010 4:53 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> On 07/15/2010 11:55 AM, H.S. wrote:
>> I was looking for just making the already deleted files unrecoverable by
>> a casual user. In other words, since a deleted file frees the space on
>> disk, by filling up the disk with all zeros and then deleting that zeros
>> file would be overwriting the earlier deleted files with zero. Am I
>> correct in this?
> 
> If the filesystem is NTFS, then it's rather trivial to recover
> overwritten data, due to the journal. While you're probably safe in
> assuming that the next user won't bother doing anything like that, the
> only way to truly, and securely remove the previous data, is to wipe out
> the filesystem too, which means taking out the OS.
> 
> On the flip, I've been happy with "Eraser": http://eraser.heidi.ie/
> 
> Good luck.
> 

On 7/15/2010 4:53 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote:
> On 07/15/2010 11:55 AM, H.S. wrote:
>> I was looking for just making the already deleted files unrecoverable by
>> a casual user. In other words, since a deleted file frees the space on
>> disk, by filling up the disk with all zeros and then deleting that zeros
>> file would be overwriting the earlier deleted files with zero. Am I
>> correct in this?
>
> If the filesystem is NTFS, then it's rather trivial to recover
> overwritten data, due to the journal. While you're probably safe in
> assuming that the next user won't bother doing anything like that, the
> only way to truly, and securely remove the previous data, is to wipe out
> the filesystem too, which means taking out the OS.
>
> On the flip, I've been happy with "Eraser": http://eraser.heidi.ie/
>
> Good luck.
>

Anything, and I repeat anything, is recoverable, even if you remove the
filesystem you can recover pieces of the file. You can remove remnants
of the file using over write methods but you need to make sure they
properly implement the algorithm and do your own research on the
algorithms to make sure they were designed or were updated for modern
hard drives. EXP: Gutmann method was designed for older HD's and will
not work on newer HD's most of the time (depending on who implements
it).  Now, removing remnants of the file doesn't make it unrecoverable
(in all circumstances), you might be able to still do a very low level
recovery, something they would generally reserve for say, a RICO
investigation, terrorists an those sorts.  The only way to stop any and
all data leaks, recoveries or anything of the sort is to either Degauss,
Destroy or use Encryption on the drive from the get go and to be honest,
the only proper implementation of drive encryption (beyond the actual
encryption) would be RedHat (and this is only because they offer the
ability to span encryption across multiple drives and recommend it) and
no drive encryption (beyond truecrypt) offers deniability. Something
I've brought up on both Debian and Ubuntu and even to Redhat. As a
matter of fact, Ubuntu developers fought with me over the idea telling
me that only criminals could possibly want plausible deniability, but
Ubuntu is rather closed minded most of the time when it comes to this
sort of thing.


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Re: Converting *.mp4 to *.mp3 or *.ogg

[Michael Iatrou]

When the date was Thursday 15 of July 2010, AG wrote:

> Hey all
> 
> What recommendations would you have for an app to convert *.mp4 to
> either *.mp3 or *.ogg?
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
> AG
> 

I used a script like this (I just rewrote it from the top of my head, so 
this one is untested):

EXT="mp4"
DEST="/home/michael/music"

for F in *.${EXT}; do
N=${F/$EXT/wav}
mplayer -vc dummy -vo null -ao pcm -aofile "${DEST}/${N}" "$F"
normalize "${DEST}/${N}"
lame --verbose -q 2 --abr 192 "${DEST}/${N}" "${DEST}/${F/$EXT/mp3}"
done

The catch with this over-engineered and occasionally inefficient script was 
that I would use it for both random audio formats and video files to extract 
the audio track (think presentation-to-podcast-like conversion).

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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Michael Iatrou]

When the date was Thursday 15 of July 2010, green wrote:

> thib wrote at 2010-07-15 13:13 -0500:
> > Take a look at shred (coreutils), wipe and secure-delete.
> 
> +1 wipe; I have used it to wipe an entire block device.
> Also wipe2fs for zeroing unused space; and zerofree seems very similar.

I am skeptical whether there is any good reason for tools like wipe2fs, 
zerofree and friends (if there are any...), when a dd && sync && rm have the 
same result.

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Re: advice on amd64

[Wu-Kung Sun]

2010/7/14 Γιώργος Πάλλας :
> *
> mordor:/home/gpall# grep multime /etc/apt/sources.list
> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main
> mordor:/home/gpall# aptitude search flashplayer-mozilla
> mordor:/home/gpall#
>
>
>


change your sources.list to
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
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Re: OT:Video Capture From Camcorder

[Rob Owens]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 09:44:09AM -0400, Thomas H. George wrote:
> Camcorder output is composite (two RCA jacks)
> 
> I bought one device which I can't get to work. Any products known to
> work with Debian Squeeze?  I don't want to repeat my mistake.
> 
My older video camera has a "digital" output, which accepts a firewire
jack.  If you don't have this, then the next best thing is to use the
composite output that you mentioned.  For that you'll need some kind of
capture device.  Off the top of my head, I'd recommend a Hauppauge
PVR-150.  It's an older capture card, 720x480 max, and you can probably
get them cheap on ebay or elsewhere.  That card is supported in Debian
Lenny.  It captures and encodes the video in MPEG-2 format.

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Re: Converting *.mp4 to *.mp3 or *.ogg

[Rob Owens]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 08:17:28PM +0100, AG wrote:
> Hey all
>
> What recommendations would you have for an app to convert *.mp4 to  
> either *.mp3 or *.ogg?
>
soundconverter

-Rob


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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Aaron Toponce]

On 07/15/2010 11:55 AM, H.S. wrote:
> I was looking for just making the already deleted files unrecoverable by
> a casual user. In other words, since a deleted file frees the space on
> disk, by filling up the disk with all zeros and then deleting that zeros
> file would be overwriting the earlier deleted files with zero. Am I
> correct in this?

If the filesystem is NTFS, then it's rather trivial to recover
overwritten data, due to the journal. While you're probably safe in
assuming that the next user won't bother doing anything like that, the
only way to truly, and securely remove the previous data, is to wipe out
the filesystem too, which means taking out the OS.

On the flip, I've been happy with "Eraser": http://eraser.heidi.ie/

Good luck.

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Re: audio not working on amd64

[H.S.]

On 15/07/10 04:17 PM, Rob Owens wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 01:53:27PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
>>
>> All I need to look for now is to see if this Ekiga and audio stuff is
>> stable.
>>
> I've been using pulseaudio for several years now on Lenny.  I need it
> for sound in LTSP.  
> 
> Anyway, there's a package called pulseaudio-esound-compat that you might

The package is already installed (I didn't install it specifically).


> want to install.  It allows an with no native pulseaudio support to
> interface w/ the pulseaudio system.
> 
> By the way, I use Ekiga and it works.  Although I'm not 100% sure if
> other apps can use the audio system at the same time as Ekiga (never
> tried it).

Yeah, since my last report of Ekiga working, there has been no problems.
It appears to be stable and had survived reboots and changing of audio
devices gracefully.

So it appears that it was just a question of something having gone wrong
during my testing with USB headset, and the primary cause appears to be
the wrong settings of my clock. Since I fixed the system clock, there
have been no problems in audio at all (no clicks in the speakers, no
errors from pulseaudio in syslog, Ekiga working).

At present if my board's audio is being used by another application
(playing a video, e.g.), Ekiga cannot use it and displays the warning.
But Ekiga works if it uses a different device, so while playing a video
on my system (system's audio being used), Ekiga works properly with my
USB headset. I think this "problem" will be solved if Ekiga is made to
use pulseaudio ... still looking into this.



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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Mark]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 1:41 PM, green  wrote:

> thib wrote at 2010-07-15 13:13 -0500:
> > Take a look at shred (coreutils), wipe and secure-delete.
>
> +1 wipe; I have used it to wipe an entire block device.
> Also wipe2fs for zeroing unused space; and zerofree seems very similar.
>

Do you have an example of what your wipe and wipe2fs commands are that
you've used?  Didn't see much info on the websites here
http://wipe.sourceforge.net/ or here
http://web.cecs.pdx.edu/~cklin/wipe2fs/.
Would like to learn.

Thanks,
Mark

Re: help needed in installing 3G+ usb modem

[green]

Bernard wrote at 2010-07-15 14:09 -0500:
> At first, I don't know how to launch usb_modeswitch. It may be that
> it is supposed to work automatically. In any case, my usbmodem does
> not switch from storage to modem. The man page is really poor, as it
> does not explain what you must exactly write in your statement :
> 
> SYNOPSIS
>usb-modeswitch [-hvpVPmMrdHn] [-c filename]

> Nowhere was it written that you had to specify a default
> vendor/product.

Later in the man page, see -v and -p options.
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man1/usb_modeswitch.1.html

> lsusb says :
> 
>Bus 007 Device 007: ID 19d2:2000

I googled "19d2:2000" and got this; perhaps it will help you:
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-665332.html


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[green]

thib wrote at 2010-07-15 13:13 -0500:
> Take a look at shred (coreutils), wipe and secure-delete.

+1 wipe; I have used it to wipe an entire block device.
Also wipe2fs for zeroing unused space; and zerofree seems very similar.


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Re: help needed in installing 3G+ usb modem

[Joe]

On 15/07/10 20:09, Bernard wrote:

Hi to Everyone,

I have already tried a lot of things to get this to work on my laptop
running Ubuntu 8.04. I also carried tests on my desktop on Debian Lenny,
with no results in either system.


My USB modem is a ZTE (Huwei abcd).



It would probably help if you said what the actual model is. Mine is a 
ZTE/Huwei MF627, which has worked without problem or configuration on 
Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04 and 9.10.


My first approach to hardware issues is generally to find an operating 
system where it does work. Windows, unfortunately, is of no use, but a 
recent Ubuntu Live or Knoppix is usually worth a try. There has been a 
lot of recent work in the 3G modem area now that they are fairly affordable.


I did get this model working on a previous OS, either sid or an earlier 
Ubuntu, I'm not sure which, but before usb_modeswitch was easily 
available. I found it along with a lot of useful 3G modem information on 
Liam Green-Hughes' site:


http://www.greenhughes.com/

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Re: Control/change the apt caching server on the fly

[Rob Owens]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 04:48:58PM +, T o n g wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Instead of specifying the caching machine in a file like /etc/apt/
> apt.conf.d/02proxy, is it possible to set the apt caching server via some 
> environment variable? 
> 
> I want to find a way to setup my laptop so that it use my local caching 
> server at home, yet easily to switch to direct connection when elsewhere.
> 
I've got the same issue.  I was thinking of this, but I've never tried
it:

deb http://my.proxy/ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main

and get rid of your 02proxy file.  

I think this might use the first deb line (which points to your proxy),
and fall back to the 2nd deb line if the first is unavailable.  Or maybe
some pinning needs to happen.  Anyway, it's an idea I've been thinking
of testing out.

-Rob


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Re: audio not working on amd64

[Rob Owens]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 01:53:27PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
> On 14/07/10 12:13 PM, H.S. wrote:
> > 
> > So, was it just the clock?
> > 
> > Meanwhile, Ekiga doesn't see any sound devices now. In its Audio section
> > of Preferences, sound devices are all grayed out and it doesn't detect
> > any when I click on "detect".
> 
> Looks like Ekiga is working fine too now. I just replugged in the USB
> head set, restarted Ekiga and first selected my internal analog audio
> devices and did an echo test. It worked. Then I selected the USB headset
> in the audio devices (the choices were not grayed out now, replugging it
> probably fixed it) and it worked as well.
> 
> Ekiga, however, is not listing pulseaudio as an option in the devices
> list and appears to be using Alsa. I suppose that is why Ekiga does not
> appear in the list of applications using sound system in Pulseaudio's
> Playback list of devices (in Volume Control, pavucontrol). I am yet to
> search google if there is a 'fix' for this though it is not a big
> problem (one of the advantage of Pulseaudio is that one can change the
> devices on the fly, which may not be necessary with Ekiga).
> 
> All I need to look for now is to see if this Ekiga and audio stuff is
> stable.
> 
I've been using pulseaudio for several years now on Lenny.  I need it
for sound in LTSP.  

Anyway, there's a package called pulseaudio-esound-compat that you might
want to install.  It allows an with no native pulseaudio support to
interface w/ the pulseaudio system.

By the way, I use Ekiga and it works.  Although I'm not 100% sure if
other apps can use the audio system at the same time as Ekiga (never
tried it).

-Rob


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Re: Converting *.mp4 to *.mp3 or *.ogg

[jeremy jozwik]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Jordon Bedwell  wrote:
> Usually if the file ends in MP4 it's video, unless they forgot that most
> people use M4A for video (like Apple.) would be better if the OP could
> give us more information on that subject, is it a video or is it audio?
> MP4 Video to MP3 !== TRUE.

oggconvert also does video. changes it to ...*.ogv i believe.


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help needed in installing 3G+ usb modem

[Bernard]

Hi to Everyone,

I have already tried a lot of things to get this to work on my laptop 
running Ubuntu 8.04. I also carried tests on my desktop on Debian Lenny, 
with no results in either system.


Some people got very similar models of 3G key to work on Ubuntu. They 
have recommended that I carry a few tests, but none gave satisfactory 
results, and they don't know what more to advise. I thought that, maybe 
someone here would have a better experience.


Whenever I plug that modem in a usb slot, it first acts as if it was a 
mass storage device. Nothing wrong with this, have I been told : the 
data space contains programs for MSWIN install. The device must 
therefore be switched so as to be reckognized as a modem, which may be 
done using various means. You need "usb-modeswitch" and "comgt" 
packages. None of them were on my system, nor were they available in the 
'Hardy' repositories, so I went fetching them as .deb packages meant for 
a more recent distro. They seemed to have installed flawlessly. However, 
I can't get any result.


At first, I don't know how to launch usb_modeswitch. It may be that it 
is supposed to work automatically. In any case, my usbmodem does not 
switch from storage to modem. The man page is really poor, as it does 
not explain what you must exactly write in your statement :


SYNOPSIS
   usb-modeswitch [-hvpVPmMrdHn] [-c filename]

with no mention of what target you must write after this.

sudo usb_modeswitch

Error : could not find file /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf

I wrote one with two lines from an example taken from another version of 
usb_modeswitch, which version I could not install (this is a tarball 
which compiles here with errors). Then


sudo usb_modeswitch -c /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf

   No default vendor/product ID given. Aborting

Nowhere was it written that you had to specify a default vendor/product. 
I tried a few things as vendor/product, including what you find in the 
usb_modeswitch-data files for your modem, that is 19d2:2000 then 
0x19d2/0x2000 and various other names... to no avail.


I tried :

sudo comgt -d /dev/ttyUSB0

comgt 20:44:46 -> -- Error Report --
comgt 20:44:46 -> Error @6 line 1, Can't control /dev/ttyUSB0, please 
try again


I can try any time I want, same result. It more often happens that, 
instead of the above message, I only get : "Can' open /dev/ttyUSB0. I 
also get this if I test USB1, USB2...


I have also tried the 'vodaphone' package which failed too.

My USB modem is a ZTE (Huwei abcd).

lsusb says :

   Bus 007 Device 007: ID 19d2:2000

dmesg says :

   usb 7-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
   usb 7-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
   scsi12 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
   usb-storage: device found at 7
   usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning

(but if I wait, nothing changes)

That usb modem DOES WORK under MSWIN (I tried it)

I have got another one, of the same vendor, but from another mobile 
provider. For this other one, I still don't have the SIM card, still I 
tried it to see what would happen ; I even tried it with the alien SIM 
card in it. It does not work either, even though both models are known 
to work under Linux, as reported by several people on various lists. 
This one gives very similar messages with dmesg, same reply with comgt 
-d /dev/ttyUSB0, and lsusb says : ID 12d1:1446 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.


Thanks in advance for your comments




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Re: setting XKBLAYOUT to gb in squeeze ?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo, 15 iul 10, 14:40:49, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
>   I am wondering if anyone has been able to setup XKBLAYOUT properly
> on debian/squeeze. I am reading

[...]

> ...
> Section "InputDevice"
> # generated from default
> Identifier "Keyboard0"
> Driver "keyboard"
> Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
> Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
> Option"XkbModel" "pc105"
> EndSection
> ...
> 

I don't have an "InputDevice" section in my (very small) xorg.conf and 
my keyboard layout is set with

dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

(which is changing /etc/default/keyboard AFAICT)

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Re: Conclusion: FAT mount, UTC and localtime

[H.S.]

On 15/07/10 03:12 PM, John Hasler wrote:
> H.S. writes:
>> So, er, I am still not sure how to understand this:
>> "To change the computer to use UTC after installation, edit the file
>> /etc/default/rcS, change the variable UTC to no. If you happened to
>> install your system to use local time, just change the variable to yes
>> to start using UTC." ---
>> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html
> 
> It's an error.  man rcS

I see. From the man page:
"UTC  If this option is set to no then the system clock is
assumed to be set to local time.  If the option is set to yes then the
system clock is  assumed to be set to something approximating
Coordinated Universal Time (UTC).  (POSIX systems keep a variant of UTC,
without leap seconds.)"

Thanks for pointing that out.
Regards.


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Re: Converting *.mp4 to *.mp3 or *.ogg

[jeremy jozwik]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:17 PM, AG  wrote:
> What recommendations would you have for an app to convert *.mp4 to either
> *.mp3 or *.ogg?

oggconvert?


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Re: High udp port are open temporarily

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mi, 14 iul 10, 21:47:57, pch0317 wrote:
> Hi :)
> 
> I install new server with Debian stable (base system only with ssh
> and bind).
> I scan port with:
> nmap -sS -sU -T4 -A -v -PE newserver
> and get that few port with number 4 and higher are open|filtered.
> When I scan newserver again I get other few udp port open (differnt
> number of port).
> 
> When I use lsof -i or netstat in this newserver I get only named and
> sshd work in 22 and 53 TCP and UDP port and exim work on localhost
> 25 port. No high open udp port are discovered.
> 
> Why nmap show this temporarily open high port.
> What can I do?

Are you scanning from the same computer? Try scanning from a remote 
host.

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Re: Conclusion: FAT mount, UTC and localtime

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo, 15 iul 10, 14:41:49, H.S. wrote:
> 
> So, er, I am still not sure how to understand this:
> "To change the computer to use UTC after installation, edit the file
> /etc/default/rcS, change the variable UTC to no. If you happened to
> install your system to use local time, just change the variable to yes
> to start using UTC." ---
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html

Looks like it's missing a "not", but that document is obsolete anyway.

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Re: Copying eth-settings

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo, 15 iul 10, 00:33:53, Ilari Oras wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am using debian in my server. I got 2 ethernet ports, one for
> intra, and another for ethernet.
> Ethernet is using interface eth0 and intra is using eth1. I would
> like to copy every settings in each start to eth0 from eth1, expect
> IP, what I would like to have static.
 
Have a look at /etc/network/interfaces and 'man interfaces'.

> Something extra and nice would be if iptables should keep FTP and
> SSH open, everything else closed, expect from normal using (it got
> desktop too). :)

I'm not exactly sure you understand the meaning of 'closed' in the 
context of firewalls, but you might want to have a look at some firewall 
builder tools, there are lots of them in Debian

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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo, 15 iul 10, 13:55:21, H.S. wrote:
> 
> I was looking for just making the already deleted files unrecoverable by
> a casual user. In other words, since a deleted file frees the space on
> disk, by filling up the disk with all zeros and then deleting that zeros
> file would be overwriting the earlier deleted files with zero. Am I
> correct in this?

You could also try recovering files with some common tools (PhotoRec 
from package testdisk comes to mind).

Regards,
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Converting *.mp4 to *.mp3 or *.ogg

[AG]

Hey all

What recommendations would you have for an app to convert *.mp4 to 
either *.mp3 or *.ogg?


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Re: Conclusion: FAT mount, UTC and localtime

[John Hasler]

H.S. writes:
> So, er, I am still not sure how to understand this:
> "To change the computer to use UTC after installation, edit the file
> /etc/default/rcS, change the variable UTC to no. If you happened to
> install your system to use local time, just change the variable to yes
> to start using UTC." ---
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html

It's an error.  man rcS
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Re: Conclusion: FAT mount, UTC and localtime

[H.S.]

On 14/07/10 09:01 PM, T o n g wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 00:44:49 +, T o n g wrote:
> Thanks to Dave's solution, problem solved now. Reposting below:
> 
> The bug report contains the following work-around, as root run these 
> commands:
> 
> hwclock --systohc --utc
> hwclock --hctosys --utc
> 
> Thanks everyone who replied.
> 

Just wanted to report how it is going with my machine with these steps
as well. I gave the above two commands and rebooted. BIOS clock showed
UTC. Booting into Windows 7 (which is set to take BIOS time as UTC time
by the registry change I mentioned in an earlier post) and in Fedora 7
shows the right time. Rebooted, confirm BIOS was still on UTC and logged
in to Debian. The time was still correctly displayed as EDT.
$ grep -i utc /etc/default/rcS
UTC=yes
~/tmp$ date
Thu Jul 15 14:40:18 EDT 2010
~/tmp$ date --utc
Thu Jul 15 18:40:22 UTC 2010


So, er, I am still not sure how to understand this:
"To change the computer to use UTC after installation, edit the file
/etc/default/rcS, change the variable UTC to no. If you happened to
install your system to use local time, just change the variable to yes
to start using UTC." ---
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html


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Re: Getting my init-script to run at the correct time

[Arthur Machlas]

On 7/11/10, Bob Proulx  wrote:
> Thue Janus Kristensen wrote:
>> I am having trouble getting it to run at the right place in the shutdown
>> sequence. It used to work, but recently stopped working for no apparent
>> reason.
## Changes to init script
# Required start:
# Required stop: $custom

## Add to insserv.con
$custom script1 script2 script3

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Re: Getting my init-script to run at the correct time

[Arthur Machlas]

Forgot to include this info:
Squeeze is parallel by default as well now. I know this because I'm
running it. :) It also has insserv installed by default, which handles
the ordering of scripts, so manually changing the number will work for
a short time, if at all, and be overwritten by any updates to insserv,
or basically anytime insserv is called, for example when insalled or
removing scripts from /etc/init.d

To get it to run at the correct time you need to include some lsb
headers in the inti script, then create a new level in insserv.conf.

And there is a typo in my original post, insserv.con should be conf.


On 7/15/10, Arthur Machlas  wrote:
> On 7/11/10, Bob Proulx  wrote:
>> Thue Janus Kristensen wrote:
>>> I am having trouble getting it to run at the right place in the shutdown
>>> sequence. It used to work, but recently stopped working for no apparent
>>> reason.
> ## Changes to init script
> # Required start:
> # Required stop: $custom
>
> ## Add to insserv.con
> $custom script1 script2 script3
>
> With script# being scripts that are started under /etc/init.d
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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Mark]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 9:05 AM, H.S.  wrote:

>
> I have a couple of hard disks in a computer which is to be recycled. I
> want the windows OS in it to remain functional, but I want to be sure
> that I have deleted all my personal files securely (never used the OS
> that much anyway and there is hardly any important info in its registry
> or browser). There are a number of documents that were deleted in
> Windows the usual way (Shift+del) and I just want to make them
> unrecoverable.
>
> Its first and second partitions (sdc1 and sdc2) are vfat. I was thinking
> of mounting these on /mnt/scd1 (and scd2) and then doing:
> # dd if=/dev/zero > /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin; rm -f /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin
>
> and the same for scd2. The idea is fill the partition with new data thus
> overwriting any deleted files' data that is lying around. Would that be
> adequate? The objective is just to prevent a casual recovery, reading
> and copying of the data by a future user, so I don't need multiple
> over-writes.


This makes sense to me.   As you said dd'ing the partition will blank
everything including Windows.  Alternatively, if you know of a directory you
want everything inside shredded with zeros, you can use:

# find -type f -execdir shred -vfzu -n 0 '{}' \;
# rm -rf *

HTH.

Mark

Re: how do you check that grub2 is configured correctly ?

[Camaleón]

El 2010-07-15 a las 19:42 +0200, mess-mate escribió:

(resending to the list)

>  On 07/15/2010 06:15 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>>
>> Now, with GRUB2, some things remain the same, but some don't. For
>> example, IIRC, GRUB2 nomenclature for devices now starts counting by "1"
>> and not by "0", so the second partition of the first device is now
>> designated as (hd1,2) and not (hd0,1).

> No... the first remains starting as '0' (hd0 = sda for ex.) only te  
> second is counted from '1'.
> So for example the first hd, sda with first partition = hd0,1 .

Oh, I must have misread it, then. Thanks for the correction.

Nice, more messing ;-P

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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[thib]

Take a look at shred (coreutils), wipe and secure-delete.

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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[H.S.]

On 15/07/10 12:31 PM, Wolodja Wentland wrote:
>>
>> Its first and second partitions (sdc1 and sdc2) are vfat. I was thinking
>> of mounting these on /mnt/scd1 (and scd2) and then doing:
>> # dd if=/dev/zero > /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin; rm -f /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin
>>
>> and the same for scd2. The idea is fill the partition with new data thus
>> overwriting any deleted files' data that is lying around. Would that be
>> adequate? The objective is just to prevent a casual recovery, reading
>> and copying of the data by a future user, so I don't need multiple
>> over-writes.
> 
> Take a look at "secure-delete" which contains "sfill" which can be used
> to fill the available free space on a hd with random (and specifically
> crafted) data to ensure that data recovery is impossible. I am not sure
> if it works with vfat though :-\

I am looking at its man page, which starts with

"sfill  is  designed  to delete data which lies on available
diskspace on mediums in a secure manner which can not be recovered by
thiefs, law enforcement or other threats.  The wipe algorythm is based
on the paper "Secure Deletion of Data from Magnetic and Solid-State
Memory" presented at the 6th Usenix Security Symposium by Peter Gutmann,
one  of  the  leading civilian cryptographers."

Talk about overkill!

Sfill has some options which will make it easier and faster (by not
doing it in the most robust and time expensive fashion) to delete/free
disk space. I just have to verify how it work and I don't inadvertently
delete files which I am not supposed to.

Thanks.




> good luck
> 
> Wolodja


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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[H.S.]

On 15/07/10 01:38 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:05:33 -0400 "H.S."  wrote:

>> Its first and second partitions (sdc1 and sdc2) are vfat. I was
>> thinking of mounting these on /mnt/scd1 (and scd2) and then doing:
>> # dd if=/dev/zero > /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin; rm -f /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin
>>
>> and the same for scd2. The idea is fill the partition with new data
>> thus overwriting any deleted files' data that is lying around.
>> Would that be adequate? The objective is just to prevent a casual
>> recovery, reading and copying of the data by a future user, so I
>> don't need multiple over-writes.
> 
> I suggest dd'ing /dev/zero over the raw disk partition instead. That
> will zero out every single block of the file system. You can probably
> just do
> 
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/scd bs=1M

Yes, but that would wipe out everything, the OS as well.

I was looking for just making the already deleted files unrecoverable by
a casual user. In other words, since a deleted file frees the space on
disk, by filling up the disk with all zeros and then deleting that zeros
file would be overwriting the earlier deleted files with zero. Am I
correct in this?





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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Perry E. Metzger]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:05:33 -0400 "H.S."  wrote:
> 
> I have a couple of hard disks in a computer which is to be
> recycled. I want the windows OS in it to remain functional, but I
> want to be sure that I have deleted all my personal files securely
> (never used the OS that much anyway and there is hardly any
> important info in its registry or browser). There are a number of
> documents that were deleted in Windows the usual way (Shift+del)
> and I just want to make them unrecoverable.
> 
> Its first and second partitions (sdc1 and sdc2) are vfat. I was
> thinking of mounting these on /mnt/scd1 (and scd2) and then doing:
> # dd if=/dev/zero > /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin; rm -f /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin
> 
> and the same for scd2. The idea is fill the partition with new data
> thus overwriting any deleted files' data that is lying around.
> Would that be adequate? The objective is just to prevent a casual
> recovery, reading and copying of the data by a future user, so I
> don't need multiple over-writes.

I suggest dd'ing /dev/zero over the raw disk partition instead. That
will zero out every single block of the file system. You can probably
just do

dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/scd bs=1M

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Re: holding back buggy packages

[Kelly Clowers]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 06:14, Florian Kulzer
 wrote:
>
> g) Scroll to the buggy packages in the actions preview, where they are
>   easy to find, and use 'F' to forbid upgrades to the buggy versions.
>   (You can also use '=' to hold if you prefer; I like forbid-version
>   better because it means that I do not have to remember to remove the
>   hold once a newer, hopefully fixed, version is available.)

Ah ha! I didn't know about "F", but it looks very handy. Thanks a lot.


Cheers,
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Re: simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[Wolodja Wentland]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:05 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> 
> I have a couple of hard disks in a computer which is to be recycled. I
> want the windows OS in it to remain functional, but I want to be sure
> that I have deleted all my personal files securely (never used the OS
> that much anyway and there is hardly any important info in its registry
> or browser). There are a number of documents that were deleted in
> Windows the usual way (Shift+del) and I just want to make them
> unrecoverable.
> 
> Its first and second partitions (sdc1 and sdc2) are vfat. I was thinking
> of mounting these on /mnt/scd1 (and scd2) and then doing:
> # dd if=/dev/zero > /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin; rm -f /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin
> 
> and the same for scd2. The idea is fill the partition with new data thus
> overwriting any deleted files' data that is lying around. Would that be
> adequate? The objective is just to prevent a casual recovery, reading
> and copying of the data by a future user, so I don't need multiple
> over-writes.

Take a look at "secure-delete" which contains "sfill" which can be used
to fill the available free space on a hd with random (and specifically
crafted) data to ensure that data recovery is impossible. I am not sure
if it works with vfat though :-\

good luck

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[tadziu]

latest update introduced to my debian dekstop new,
fancy notifications in linux mint style.

is it possible to change their look somehow?
i just want to adjust font color and size.

regards
t.

Re: how do you check that grub2 is configured correctly ?

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:19:57 -0700, briand wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:13:52 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote:
> 
>> Things than can prevent your system from booting are (but not limited
>> to): having a wrong root defined or pointing to a wrong/nonexistent
>> device.
> 
> and I would check this where ?  I looked at grub.cfg and it's quite
> complicated.

GRUB is complicated by definition. I mean, being a bootloader plenty of 
options, is not easy to understand how to deal with it. I'm using GRUB 
legacy for more that 6 years and still have to recheck the manual now and 
then when something goes wrong in order to refresh my brain :-)

>> There are still some things one have to manually check to assure a
>> correct booting but if the system fails to boot you can run GRUB
>> interactively. Also, as last resort, having a CD with SuperGrubDisk is
>> a must.
>> 
>> 
> Why don't you tell me what those things are , enquiring minds want to
> know ?!

I only know the inners of the GRUB legacy. On those days, one had only to 
care about:

- GRUB installation location (MBR / first boot sector of a partition)
- /boot/grub/device.map file (for a correct mapping devices between BIOS 
and GRUB)
- /boot/grub/menu.lst (GRUB menu file for booting different OSs)
- Check that GRUB installation files ("stage1" and "stage2) were not 
damaged/corrupted somehow
- /etc/grub.conf (global configuration file)

(location of these files can vary depending on the linux distribution in 
use)

And that was all.

Now, with GRUB2, some things remain the same, but some don't. For 
example, IIRC, GRUB2 nomenclature for devices now starts counting by "1" 
and not by "0", so the second partition of the first device is now 
designated as (hd1,2) and not (hd0,1).

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simple way to securely destroy deleted files in a file system

[H.S.]

I have a couple of hard disks in a computer which is to be recycled. I
want the windows OS in it to remain functional, but I want to be sure
that I have deleted all my personal files securely (never used the OS
that much anyway and there is hardly any important info in its registry
or browser). There are a number of documents that were deleted in
Windows the usual way (Shift+del) and I just want to make them
unrecoverable.

Its first and second partitions (sdc1 and sdc2) are vfat. I was thinking
of mounting these on /mnt/scd1 (and scd2) and then doing:
# dd if=/dev/zero > /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin; rm -f /mnt/sdc1/zeros.bin

and the same for scd2. The idea is fill the partition with new data thus
overwriting any deleted files' data that is lying around. Would that be
adequate? The objective is just to prevent a casual recovery, reading
and copying of the data by a future user, so I don't need multiple
over-writes.

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pam_ssh for regular users only

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello List,

I installed with success pam_ssh on my Squeeze box.
Nevertheless, I do not like the idea that an ssh-agent is launched when
the super user log in: is there a simple way to allow pam_ssh to launch
ssh-agent only for regular users (and disable it for the root).

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Re: Adobe reader update

[Frank]

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Solved my problem...you can't mix an installation from
the Adobe site with Debian files (obviously). I removed
the Adobe site reader, fixed the apt sources list (it never
gave me the opportunity to install acroread)... and
all is now well.


Sorry for the noise. Lesson learned (I hope)





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> 
> I have Adobe reader 9.3.3 (the latest) installed on my Squeeze system,
> but every day aptitude update/full-upgrade insists 9.3.1 is installed
> and wants to remove it. Aptitude is trying to upgrade/update
> acroread-debian-files.
> 
> This is what happens
> 
> 
> 
>  aptitude full-upgrade
> The following packages will be upgraded: 
>   acroread-debian-files{b} 
> 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not
> upgraded. Need to get 18.4kB of archives. After unpacking 36.9kB will
> be freed. The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   acroread-debian-files: Depends: acroread (>= 9.3.3) but 9.3.1-0.0
> is installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
> 
>  Remove the following packages:
> 1) acroread
> 2) acroread-data   
> 3) acroread-debian-files   
> 4) acroread-dictionary-en  
> 5) acroread-escript
> 6) acroread-l10n-en
> 7) mozilla-acroread
> 
> 
> 
> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
> 
>  Keep the following packages at their current version:
> 1) acroread-debian-files [0.2.5 (now)]
> 
> 
> I have removed and reinstalled Adobe reader several times
> but it never changes
> 
> I am also wondering where the reader should be installed to
> work properly in a Debian system. Right now it's in /opt.
> 
> Any suggestions? - I didn't find any similar problems in the Adobe
> site knowledge base or forums.
> 
> 
> 
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Adobe reader update

[Frank]

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I have Adobe reader 9.3.3 (the latest) installed on my Squeeze system,
but every day aptitude update/full-upgrade insists 9.3.1 is installed
and wants to remove it. Aptitude is trying to upgrade/update
acroread-debian-files.

This is what happens



 aptitude full-upgrade
The following packages will be upgraded: 
  acroread-debian-files{b} 
1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not
upgraded. Need to get 18.4kB of archives. After unpacking 36.9kB will
be freed. The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  acroread-debian-files: Depends: acroread (>= 9.3.3) but 9.3.1-0.0
is installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

 Remove the following packages:
1) acroread
2) acroread-data   
3) acroread-debian-files   
4) acroread-dictionary-en  
5) acroread-escript
6) acroread-l10n-en
7) mozilla-acroread



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] n
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

 Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) acroread-debian-files [0.2.5 (now)]


I have removed and reinstalled Adobe reader several times
but it never changes

I am also wondering where the reader should be installed to
work properly in a Debian system. Right now it's in /opt.

Any suggestions? - I didn't find any similar problems in the Adobe
site knowledge base or forums.



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Re: how to make iceweasel & icedove look as pretty as in gnome?

[Florian Kulzer]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 09:12:45 +0300, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
> On 07/14/2010 11:10 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 21:53:36 +0300, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote:
> >   
> >> Is there a way?
> >> I tried by installing kde-config-gtk-style but both apps look terrible
> >> and they also don't exit properly.
> >> 
> > Which themes did you try? I use "Clearlooks" from the package
> > gtk2-engines; it works without glitches on my KDE 4.4 desktop for all
> > the GTK applications that I use and I find it quite pleasant to look at.
> > According to the package description, Clearlooks is the default Gnome
> > theme, so I would assume that it makes ice(weasel|dove) under KDE look
> > the same as under Gnome.
> 
> Hmm Could you please send me the output of aptitude search gtk~i

$ aptitude --disable-columns -F '%p %v' search 'gtk~i'
alsaplayer-gtk 0.99.80-5   
gtk-qt-engine 1:1.1+svn5-4
gtk2-engines 1:2.20.1-1
gtk2-engines-pixbuf 2.20.1-1
ia32-libs-gtk 20090804
kde-config-gtk-style 1:1.1+svn5-4
libgpod4-nogtk 0.7.2-2+b1
libgtk2.0-0 2.20.1-1
libgtk2.0-bin 2.20.1-1
libgtk2.0-common 2.20.1-1
libgtkglext1 1.2.0-1.1
libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a 1:2.20.3-1
libgtkspell0 2.0.16-1
libwxgtk2.6-0 2.6.3.2.2-5
libwxgtk2.8-0 2.8.10.1-3
pinentry-gtk2 0.8.0-1
python-gtk2 2.17.0-2

> You set the theme from System Settings -> Appearance -> Gtk themes etc?

Yes, I do (the exact name is "GTK Styles and Fonts" on my system; I
assume that is what you mean). I select the "Use another style" option
in the "GTK Styles" panel and choose "Clearlooks" from the drop-down
combobox. "Clearlooks" became available in this combobox after I
installed the gtk2-engines package.

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Re: how do you check that grub2 is configured correctly ?

[briand]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 07:13:52 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:46:40 -0700, briand wrote:
> 
> > If update-grub2 executes without any errors am I good to go ?
> > 
> > What else can I do to try and make sure it will work ?
> 
> GRUB menu lines can be syntactically right but it can also fail and
> don't boot.
> 
> Things than can prevent your system from booting are (but not limited 
> to): having a wrong root defined or pointing to a wrong/nonexistent 
> device.

and I would check this where ?  I looked at grub.cfg and it's quite
complicated.

> 
> There are still some things one have to manually check to assure a 
> correct booting but if the system fails to boot you can run GRUB 
> interactively. Also, as last resort, having a CD with SuperGrubDisk
> is a must.
> 

Why don't you tell me what those things are , enquiring minds want to
know ?!

A rescue disk sounds useful :-)  Is it better to have supergrubdisk or
just have a debian net-install boot disk available ?



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Thread pollution (was: pam_ssh for regular users only)

[Sven Joachim]

When you have a new problem, please start a new thread instead of
polluting existing ones.  For instance, click the "Write" button in
Icedove instead of using "Reply to List".  Thank you.

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Re: Iceweasel locks up after connecting to radio

[briand]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:31:26 +0100
Anthony Campbell  wrote:

> I often use Iceweasel to connect to the BBC, either for radio or TV.
> Recently I've found that when I delete the connection Iceweasel locks
> up and I have to go to a terminal to kill it. This also happens with
> Firefox (latest version) but not with Iceape.
> 
> Anyone else seen this?
> 

Naturally the first thing you should suspect is flash.

The other thing that _might_ help, is to run strace on iceweasel and
see if that reveals why it's hanging.

Brian


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Re: OT:Video Capture From Camcorder

[Vince Vielhaber]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010, Thomas H. George wrote:


Camcorder output is composite (two RCA jacks)

I bought one device which I can't get to work. Any products known to
work with Debian Squeeze?  I don't want to repeat my mistake.


What did you buy so noone else makes the same mistake?

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pam_ssh for regular users only

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello List,

I installed with success pam_ssh on my Squeeze box.
Nevertheless, I do not like the idea that an ssh-agent is launched when
the super user log in: is there a simple way to allow pam_ssh to launch
ssh-agent only for regular users (and disable it for the root).

Thanks in advance,
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Re: High udp port are open temporarily

[Perry E. Metzger]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 21:47:57 +0200 pch0317  wrote:
> Hi :)
> 
> I install new server with Debian stable (base system only with ssh
> and bind).
> I scan port with:
> nmap -sS -sU -T4 -A -v -PE newserver
> and get that few port with number 4 and higher are
> open|filtered. When I scan newserver again I get other few udp port
> open (differnt number of port).
> 
> When I use lsof -i or netstat in this newserver I get only named
> and sshd work in 22 and 53 TCP and UDP port and exim work on
> localhost 25 port. No high open udp port are discovered.
> 
> Why nmap show this temporarily open high port.
> What can I do?

First, you can stop using nmap to do what you can do with

netstat -A inet -a

There is, after all, no need to port scan your own computer when you
can just ask it what it is doing. The ports might only be open for a
moment, but nmap has no special ability to catch such things.

Second, named is doubtless opening ports here and there to send out
and get replies to recursive queries. You could, of course, stop
having DNS service if this bothers you, though I wouldn't recommend
it. Other apps on your machine may also be opening UDP ports here and
there -- just lsof repeatedly to catch them.

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OT:Video Capture From Camcorder

[Thomas H. George]

Camcorder output is composite (two RCA jacks)

I bought one device which I can't get to work. Any products known to
work with Debian Squeeze?  I don't want to repeat my mistake.

Tom


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Iceweasel locks up after connecting to radio

[Anthony Campbell]

I often use Iceweasel to connect to the BBC, either for radio or TV.
Recently I've found that when I delete the connection Iceweasel locks up
and I have to go to a terminal to kill it. This also happens with
Firefox (latest version) but not with Iceape.

Anyone else seen this?

Anthony


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setting XKBLAYOUT to gb in squeeze ?

[Mathieu Malaterre]

Hi there,

  I am wondering if anyone has been able to setup XKBLAYOUT properly
on debian/squeeze. I am reading

http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide

  It says:

$ grep -C 3 -i xkb /etc/default/console-setup
-> return nothing on my computer.

Reading the file it seems I actually need to change
/etc/default/keyboard instead, so I did:

$ grep -C 3 -i xkb /etc/default/keyboard
# /etc/init.d/hal restart

# The following variables describe your keyboard and can have the same
# values as the XkbModel, XkbLayout, XkbVariant and XkbOptions options
# in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.

XKBMODEL="pc105"
XKBLAYOUT="gb"
XKBVARIANT=""
XKBOPTIONS="terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp"

# If you don't want to use the XKB layout on the console, you can
# specify an alternative keymap.  Make sure it will be accessible
# before /usr is mounted.
# KMAP=/etc/console-setup/defkeymap.kmap.gz


As specified, I did rerun the hal deamon:

$ sudo /etc/init.d/hal restart
Restarting Hardware abstraction layer: hald.

$ lshal | grep xkb
-> return nothing

If I look at the log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log, I can see something weird:

...
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Dell Dell USB Keyboard"
(type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev"
(**) Option "xkb_model" "pc104"
(**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
...


I also tried :

  dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

and I explicitely specify dell USB keyboard, it then picks up that my
keyboard is 'gb' style and not 'us', but the change has no effect even
after a gdm restart.

Any advice ?

Thanks,
-- 
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$ cat /etc/debian_version
squeeze/sid
$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg console-setup  hal
xserver-xorg:
  Installed: 1:7.5+6
  Candidate: 1:7.5+6
  Version table:
 *** 1:7.5+6 0
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org squeeze/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
console-setup:
  Installed: 1.51
  Candidate: 1.51
  Version table:
 *** 1.51 0
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org squeeze/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
hal:
  Installed: 0.5.14-2
  Candidate: 0.5.14-2
  Version table:
 *** 0.5.14-2 0
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org squeeze/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
...
Section "ServerFlags"
Option  "DontZap"   "false"
EndSection
...
Section "InputDevice"
# generated from default
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"
Option  "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbLayout" "gb"
Option"XkbModel" "pc105"
EndSection
...


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Reklama w serwisie

[Marta Pęczek]

Witam!
Chciałabym się dowiedzieć, czy istnieje możliwość umieszczenia płatnej 
reklamy w serwisie debian.org.


Jeżeli to możliwe, proszę o kontakt przez gg (8960735) lub e-mail: 
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Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

[Lisi]

On Thursday 15 July 2010 10:26:05 John Frankish wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 July, 2010 13:13
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network
>
> 
>
> > Oh dear!!
> >
> > Setting my granddaughter's laptop to talk to her school's wireless
> > network was a nightmare, and I never did find out why.  It connected to
> > other wireless routers without a problem.  I tried 3 - or was it 4? -
> > different distros, I tried 3 different wireless cards, I asked for help
> > from someone more knowledgable and experienced than I,  I tore my hair
> > out.  Eventually, with Open Suse 11.00, I was getting some sort of
> > response, but still not an actual connection.  In the end, the one person
> > in the school IT department who knew anything about Linux took the
> > almost-connecting Open Suse install off to the school IT lab, and came
> > back with it working, having worked thro' several wireless cards that
> > they had lying around, and found one that worked, which they donated to
> > her.  He may also have done some tweaking,
> >
> > My laptop with Lenny and that same card does not connect at her school
> > - but connects without hesitation anywhere else.
> >
> > I believe the American expression is "go figure!".  You have my
> > sympathy, but I am for now out of ideas.
> >
> > I assume that you have checked the driver?
> >
> > Lisi
>
> Thanks for the suggestions - since things work "the old fashioned way" with
> /etc/network/interfaces, I presume the driver is good - I'll probably leave
> Networkmanager uninstalled, uninstall wicd and use "the old fashioned way"
> for Both wired and wireless connections

That sounds like a very good idea!  I confess that I had forgotten that the 
old fashioned way worked for you.  If it ain't broke don't fix it. ;-) 

Lisi


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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2010-07-15, Paul Scott  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:40:27AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:

>> It might be better to put away wicd for a moment and invoke
>> wpa_supplicant directly with the -d switch.  You may have to set the
>> ssid first with iwconfig(8).
>
> I have read the man page.  I apparently need a valid wpa_supplicant.conf 
> file.  The only one 
> I can find (/etc/dbus-1/system.d/wpa...) doesn't seem to be valid.  I get 
> lots of errors 
> about that file when I supply the -D -i and -c parameters.
>

I haven't used wicd for a while, but I recall that it writes its own
wpa_supplicant.conf file based on the settings you provide in the UI.
Try looking under /etc/wicd.

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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Paul Scott]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:25:26PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2010-07-15 12:15 +0200, Paul Scott wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:40:27AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> >> 
> >> It might be better to put away wicd for a moment and invoke
> >> wpa_supplicant directly with the -d switch.  You may have to set the
> >> ssid first with iwconfig(8).
> >
> > I have read the man page.  I apparently need a valid wpa_supplicant.conf 
> > file.  The only one 
> > I can find (/etc/dbus-1/system.d/wpa...) doesn't seem to be valid.  I get 
> > lots of errors 
> > about that file when I supply the -D -i and -c parameters.
> 
> There are several sample configuration files in the
> /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples directory.  The wpa-psk-tkip.conf
> file could be a good starting point.
> 

Thanks.  I'll try that in a few hours.

Paul



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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-07-15 12:15 +0200, Paul Scott wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:40:27AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> 
>> It might be better to put away wicd for a moment and invoke
>> wpa_supplicant directly with the -d switch.  You may have to set the
>> ssid first with iwconfig(8).
>
> I have read the man page.  I apparently need a valid wpa_supplicant.conf 
> file.  The only one 
> I can find (/etc/dbus-1/system.d/wpa...) doesn't seem to be valid.  I get 
> lots of errors 
> about that file when I supply the -D -i and -c parameters.

There are several sample configuration files in the
/usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/examples directory.  The wpa-psk-tkip.conf
file could be a good starting point.

Sven


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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Paul Scott]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:40:27AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2010-07-15 11:29 +0200, Paul Scott wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 08:52:24AM +, Camaleón wrote:
> >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:39:56 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> >> 
> >> > sid fully updated
> >> > 
> >> > wicd connects fine if I turn wireless security on the WRT54G2 router
> >> > off.  When I set the router to WPA2 - AES I get (from wicd.log)
> >> > 
> >> > 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: iwconfig eth2
> >> > 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS SCANNING 
> >> > 2010/07/14 17:40:42 :: wpa_supplicant authentication may have failed.
> >>  ^^
> >> 
> >> (...)
> >> 
> >> Try starting "wp_supplicant" in debug mode to make the log more verbose 
> >> about that error. It seems failing at some point of the authentication.
> >
> > wicd calls wpa_supplicant with wext.  I don't see a preferences setting to 
> > change 
> > to cause more debugging.
> 
> It might be better to put away wicd for a moment and invoke
> wpa_supplicant directly with the -d switch.  You may have to set the
> ssid first with iwconfig(8).

I have read the man page.  I apparently need a valid wpa_supplicant.conf file.  
The only one 
I can find (/etc/dbus-1/system.d/wpa...) doesn't seem to be valid.  I get lots 
of errors 
about that file when I supply the -D -i and -c parameters.

Thanks,

Paul




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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 02:29:50 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 08:52:24AM +, Camaleón wrote:

>> > :: wpa_supplicant authentication may have failed.
>>  ^^
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
>> Try starting "wp_supplicant" in debug mode to make the log more verbose
>> about that error. It seems failing at some point of the authentication.
> 
> wicd calls wpa_supplicant with wext.  I don't see a preferences setting
> to change to cause more debugging.

"wpa_supplicant" can be run directly. IIRC, "-dd" modifier switched into 
debug mode. "man wpa_supplicant" for additional/detailed info on how to 
get this done.
 
>> Also, try to lower the security a bit by choosing WPA-PSK (TKIP) or
>> WPA2- PSK (AES+TKIP) instead just AES. Stronger encryption requires
>> better coberture so devices can "dialogue" smoothly.
> 
> I just tried as many variations as I could without success.  I'm not
> 100% sure I am always matching the router settings with the laptop wicd
> settings.

That is an important setting to check. Reviwer your "/etc/dbus-1/system.d/
wpa_supplicant.conf" or whatever the config file is. AP and 
wpa_supplicant settings must match.

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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-07-15 11:29 +0200, Paul Scott wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 08:52:24AM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:39:56 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
>> 
>> > sid fully updated
>> > 
>> > wicd connects fine if I turn wireless security on the WRT54G2 router
>> > off.  When I set the router to WPA2 - AES I get (from wicd.log)
>> > 
>> > 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: iwconfig eth2
>> > 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS SCANNING 
>> > 2010/07/14 17:40:42 :: wpa_supplicant authentication may have failed.
>>  ^^
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
>> Try starting "wp_supplicant" in debug mode to make the log more verbose 
>> about that error. It seems failing at some point of the authentication.
>
> wicd calls wpa_supplicant with wext.  I don't see a preferences setting to 
> change 
> to cause more debugging.

It might be better to put away wicd for a moment and invoke
wpa_supplicant directly with the -d switch.  You may have to set the
ssid first with iwconfig(8).

Sven


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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Paul Scott]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 08:52:24AM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:39:56 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> 
> > sid fully updated
> > 
> > wicd connects fine if I turn wireless security on the WRT54G2 router
> > off.  When I set the router to WPA2 - AES I get (from wicd.log)
> > 
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: iwconfig eth2
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS SCANNING 
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:42 :: wpa_supplicant authentication may have failed.
>  ^^
> 
> (...)
> 
> Try starting "wp_supplicant" in debug mode to make the log more verbose 
> about that error. It seems failing at some point of the authentication.

wicd calls wpa_supplicant with wext.  I don't see a preferences setting to 
change 
to cause more debugging.

> Also, try to lower the security a bit by choosing WPA-PSK (TKIP) or WPA2-
> PSK (AES+TKIP) instead just AES. Stronger encryption requires better 
> coberture so devices can "dialogue" smoothly.

I just tried as many variations as I could without success.  I'm not 100% sure
I am always matching the router settings with the laptop wicd settings.

Thanks,

Paul



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RE: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

[John Frankish]

> -Original Message-
> From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 July, 2010 13:13
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network
> 
 
> Oh dear!!
> 
> Setting my granddaughter's laptop to talk to her school's wireless
> network was a nightmare, and I never did find out why.  It connected to other
> wireless routers without a problem.  I tried 3 - or was it 4? - different
> distros, I tried 3 different wireless cards, I asked for help from someone 
> more
> knowledgable and experienced than I,  I tore my hair out.  Eventually,
> with Open Suse 11.00, I was getting some sort of response, but still not an
> actual connection.  In the end, the one person in the school IT department who
> knew anything about Linux took the almost-connecting Open Suse install off
> to the school IT lab, and came back with it working, having worked thro'
> several wireless cards that they had lying around, and found one that worked,
> which they donated to her.  He may also have done some tweaking,
> 
> My laptop with Lenny and that same card does not connect at her school
> - but connects without hesitation anywhere else.
> 
> I believe the American expression is "go figure!".  You have my
> sympathy, but I am for now out of ideas.
> 
> I assume that you have checked the driver?
> 
> Lisi
> 
Thanks for the suggestions - since things work "the old fashioned way" with
/etc/network/interfaces, I presume the driver is good - I'll probably leave
Networkmanager uninstalled, uninstall wicd and use "the old fashioned way" for
Both wired and wireless connections


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Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

[Lisi]

On Thursday 15 July 2010 08:53:03 John Frankish wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 July, 2010 11:40
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network
> >
> > On Thursday 15 July 2010 05:08:13 John Frankish wrote:
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July, 2010 18:46
> > > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > > > Subject: Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network
> > > >
> > > > Why not try uninstalling Network Mangler and using someother method -
> > > > e.g.
> > > > WICD (my own preferred solution), /etc/network/interfaces or some
> > > > other manager?
> > > >
> > > > Lisi
> > >
> > > I tried a few more things:
> > >
> > > 1. NetworkManager
> > > I get the errors below and rmmod/modprobe ipw2100 does not help. Since
> > > only NetworkManager and not wicd nor "the old way" produces these error
> > > messages, I presume this is a bug.
> > >
> > > $ dmesg | grep ipw2100
> > > [6.807473] ipw2100: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver,
> > > git-1.2.2 [6.807478] ipw2100: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
> > > [6.829420] ipw2100 :01:0a.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKG] -> GSI 11
> > > (level, low) -> IRQ 11
> > > [6.830090] ipw2100: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Connection
> > > [6.830117] ipw2100 :01:0a.0: firmware: requesting ipw2100-1.3.fw
> > > [39.906727] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart.
> > > [78.668486] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart.
> > > [130.105385] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart.
> > >
> > > 2. wicd
> > > All attempts to connect to the wireless network result in an error
> > > message "bad password" There are no errors in dmesg
> > >
> > > 3. This works without errors in dmesg and wcid recognizes the link is
> > > connected
> > >
> > > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces
> > > ...
> > > # wireless
> > > allow-hotplug eth2
> > > iface eth2 inet dhcp
> > > wireless-essid myessid
> > > wireless-key 12:34:56:78:9A:BC:DE:F1:23:45:67:89:AB
> > > wireless-keymode restricted
> >
> > When trying WICD did you:
> >
> > 1. Uninstall Network Mangler
> >
> > 2. Comment out the wireless entries in /etc/network/interfaces
> >
> > 3. Reboot
> >
> > 4. Run WICD
> >
> > If you have not (and you need to have done all of them), I should try
> > it now.
> >
> > It is possible to stop and restart the network without rebooting, but I
> > feel
> > that this way makes sure that everyting has to restart.  Others MMV.
> >
> > Lisi
>
> 1. Yes, 2. Yes, 3. Yes, 4. Yes :)

Oh dear!!

Setting my granddaughter's laptop to talk to her school's wireless network was 
a nightmare, and I never did find out why.  It connected to other wireless 
routers without a problem.  I tried 3 - or was it 4? - different distros, I 
tried 3 different wireless cards, I asked for help from someone more 
knowledgable and experienced than I,  I tore my hair out.  Eventually, with 
Open Suse 11.00, I was getting some sort of response, but still not an actual 
connection.  In the end, the one person in the school IT department who knew 
anything about Linux took the almost-connecting Open Suse install off to the 
school IT lab, and came back with it working, having worked thro' several 
wireless cards that they had lying around, and found one that worked, which 
they donated to her.  He may also have done some tweaking,

My laptop with Lenny and that same card does not connect at her school - but 
connects without hesitation anywhere else.

I believe the American expression is "go figure!".  You have my sympathy, but 
I am for now out of ideas.

I assume that you have checked the driver?

Lisi


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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:39:56 -0700, Paul Scott wrote:

> sid fully updated
> 
> wicd connects fine if I turn wireless security on the WRT54G2 router
> off.  When I set the router to WPA2 - AES I get (from wicd.log)
> 
> 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: iwconfig eth2
> 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS SCANNING 
> 2010/07/14 17:40:42 :: wpa_supplicant authentication may have failed.
 ^^

(...)

Try starting "wp_supplicant" in debug mode to make the log more verbose 
about that error. It seems failing at some point of the authentication.

Also, try to lower the security a bit by choosing WPA-PSK (TKIP) or WPA2-
PSK (AES+TKIP) instead just AES. Stronger encryption requires better 
coberture so devices can "dialogue" smoothly.

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Re: wicd with WPA2 fails

[Paul Scott]

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 08:43:06AM +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
> On Thursday 15 July 2010 03:39:56 Paul Scott wrote:
> > sid fully updated
> > 
> > wicd connects fine if I turn wireless security on the WRT54G2 router
> > off.  When I set the router to WPA2 - AES I get (from wicd.log)
> > 
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: iwconfig eth2
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:41 :: WPA_CLI RESULT IS SCANNING
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:42 :: wpa_supplicant authentication may have failed.
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:42 :: connect result is Failed
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:42 :: exiting connection thread
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:43 :: Sending connection attempt result bad_pass
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:43 :: ifconfig eth0
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:43 :: ifconfig eth2
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:43 :: Forced disconnect on
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:43 :: attempting to set hostname with dhclient
> > 2010/07/14 17:40:43 :: using dhcpcd or another supported client may work
> > better
> > 
> > 
> > TIA for any help,
> > 
> > Paul Scott
> 
> Try removing network-manager

network-manager is not installed.

Paul



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RE: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

[John Frankish]

> -Original Message-
> From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 15 July, 2010 11:40
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network
> 
> On Thursday 15 July 2010 05:08:13 John Frankish wrote:
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July, 2010 18:46
> > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > > Subject: Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network
> 
> > > Why not try uninstalling Network Mangler and using someother method -
> > > e.g.
> > > WICD (my own preferred solution), /etc/network/interfaces or some other
> > > manager?
> > >
> > > Lisi
> >
> > I tried a few more things:
> >
> > 1. NetworkManager
> > I get the errors below and rmmod/modprobe ipw2100 does not help. Since only
> > NetworkManager and not wicd nor "the old way" produces these error
> > messages, I presume this is a bug.
> >
> > $ dmesg | grep ipw2100
> > [6.807473] ipw2100: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver, git-1.2.2
> > [6.807478] ipw2100: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
> > [6.829420] ipw2100 :01:0a.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKG] -> GSI 11
> > (level, low) -> IRQ 11
> > [6.830090] ipw2100: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Connection
> > [6.830117] ipw2100 :01:0a.0: firmware: requesting ipw2100-1.3.fw 
> > [39.906727] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart.
> > [78.668486] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart.
> > [130.105385] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt. Scheduling firmware restart.
> >
> > 2. wicd
> > All attempts to connect to the wireless network result in an error message
> > "bad password" There are no errors in dmesg
> >
> > 3. This works without errors in dmesg and wcid recognizes the link is
> > connected
> >
> > $ cat /etc/network/interfaces
> > ...
> > # wireless
> > allow-hotplug eth2
> > iface eth2 inet dhcp
> > wireless-essid myessid
> > wireless-key 12:34:56:78:9A:BC:DE:F1:23:45:67:89:AB
> > wireless-keymode restricted
> 
> When trying WICD did you:
> 
> 1. Uninstall Network Mangler
> 
> 2. Comment out the wireless entries in /etc/network/interfaces
> 
> 3. Reboot
> 
> 4. Run WICD
> 
> If you have not (and you need to have done all of them), I should try
> it now.
> 
> It is possible to stop and restart the network without rebooting, but I
> feel
> that this way makes sure that everyting has to restart.  Others MMV.
> 
> Lisi
> 
1. Yes, 2. Yes, 3. Yes, 4. Yes :)


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Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

[Lisi]

On Thursday 15 July 2010 05:08:13 John Frankish wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 13 July, 2010 18:46
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

> > Why not try uninstalling Network Mangler and using someother method -
> > e.g.
> > WICD (my own preferred solution), /etc/network/interfaces or some other
> > manager?
> >
> > Lisi
>
> I tried a few more things:
>
> 1. NetworkManager
> I get the errors below and rmmod/modprobe ipw2100 does not help. Since only
> NetworkManager and not wicd nor "the old way" produces these error
> messages, I presume this is a bug.
>
> $ dmesg | grep ipw2100
> [6.807473] ipw2100: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2100 Network Driver,
> git-1.2.2 [6.807478] ipw2100: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
> [6.829420] ipw2100 :01:0a.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LNKG] -> GSI 11
> (level, low) -> IRQ 11 [6.830090] ipw2100: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless
> 2100 Network Connection [6.830117] ipw2100 :01:0a.0: firmware:
> requesting ipw2100-1.3.fw [   39.906727] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt.
> Scheduling firmware restart. [   78.668486] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt.
> Scheduling firmware restart. [  130.105385] ipw2100: Fatal interrupt.
> Scheduling firmware restart.
>
> 2. wicd
> All attempts to connect to the wireless network result in an error message
> "bad password" There are no errors in dmesg
>
> 3. This works without errors in dmesg and wcid recognizes the link is
> connected
>
> $ cat /etc/network/interfaces
> ...
> # wireless
> allow-hotplug eth2
> iface eth2 inet dhcp
> wireless-essid myessid
> wireless-key 12:34:56:78:9A:BC:DE:F1:23:45:67:89:AB
> wireless-keymode restricted

When trying WICD did you:

1. Uninstall Network Mangler

2. Comment out the wireless entries in /etc/network/interfaces

3. Reboot

4. Run WICD

If you have not (and you need to have done all of them), I should try it now.

It is possible to stop and restart the network without rebooting, but I feel 
that this way makes sure that everyting has to restart.  Others MMV.

Lisi



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Re: how do you check that grub2 is configured correctly ?

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 22:46:40 -0700, briand wrote:

> If update-grub2 executes without any errors am I good to go ?
> 
> What else can I do to try and make sure it will work ?

GRUB menu lines can be syntactically right but it can also fail and don't 
boot.

Things than can prevent your system from booting are (but not limited 
to): having a wrong root defined or pointing to a wrong/nonexistent 
device.

There are still some things one have to manually check to assure a 
correct booting but if the system fails to boot you can run GRUB 
interactively. Also, as last resort, having a CD with SuperGrubDisk is a 
must.

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