Broadcom b43 driver
Problem fixed... Rebooting is a wondrous thing!! I ended up re-installing the original jessie kernel to get rid of my bull in the china shop hacking, then re-installed the firmware-b43-installer. Then with things back the way they should be, I rebootedLife is good, wifi is on the air. I really shouldn't be messing around with things when I don't know what I'm doing:-! -- JM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5570ebbf.9080...@gmail.com
Re: Latest version of gettext not run
On 05/06/15 00:27, Tomas Nordin wrote: I have forced installed latest version of gettext: $ dpkg --list gettext ... ii gettext 0.19.3-2~bpo70 i386 GNU ... but the previous version is run by calls: $ gettext --version gettext (GNU gettext-runtime) 0.18.1 ... What do I do to fix this? What does $ which gettext say? If it doesn't say /usr/bin/gettext, then you have an extra copy of gettext somewhere in your PATH that is not /usr/bin. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5570eb7d.5040...@zen.co.uk
Re: HELP- very slow download speeds
On 06/03/2015 11:55 PM, Petter Adsen wrote:
On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:41:49 -0700
Gary Roach wrote:
On 05/25/2015 11:16 PM, Petter Adsen wrote:
iperf will use either TCP or UDP. :)
Petter
Well, I'm back
I used iperf3 as follows:
iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com
The program just hangs. I also tried it with the -R switch with the same
result. I then set up one the other computers on my internal net as a
server (iperf3 -s) and got the following results:
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Retr
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.02 GBytes 878 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.02 GBytes 877 Mbits/sec
receiver
iperf Done.
My local network seems to be working fine (I tried the -R switch as
well. Same good results). Needless to say, I'm using a 100 Mbyte/second
network.
Seems good.
I am behind a verizon M1424WR rev. I router firewall that has been free
of any "known" transmission trouble before. Could the firewall be the
problem or has scottlinux.com shut down their iperf3 server.
Well, it's not shut down, as I just tried it and it works fine here.
Maybe it was down, though, and you should try again?
If it still doesn't work, then check your firewall. It shouldn't give
you any problems, as you are simply trying to establish a connection to
port 5201 on a remote machine, but check. Enable firewall logging, if
possible, and see if anything gets blocked. Verify that you can reach
the webserver running on the same host.
Also try with UDP ("-u -b 0").
Petter
Well all of a sudden iperf.scottlinux.com works The send and receive
with TCP packets is about the same. Below is a typical example:
root@xx# iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com -R -V
iperf 3.0.7
Linux xx 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1
(2015-04-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Time: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 23:42:13 GMT
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host iperf.scottlinux.com is sending
Cookie: xx.1433461333.668186.036751
TCP MSS: 1448 (default)
[ 4] local 192.168.1.7 port 49461 connected to 173.230.156.66 port 5201
Starting Test: protocol: TCP, 1 streams, 131072 byte blocks, omitting 0
seconds, 10 second test
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 3.20 MBytes 26.8 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 3.24 MBytes 27.2 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 3.22 MBytes 27.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 3.23 MBytes 27.1 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 3.22 MBytes 27.0 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 3.16 MBytes 26.5 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 3.21 MBytes 26.9 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 3.20 MBytes 26.8 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 3.23 MBytes 27.1 Mbits/sec
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 3.22 MBytes 27.0 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Retr
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 32.4 MBytes 27.2 Mbits/sec 0 sender
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 32.2 MBytes 27.0 Mbits/sec
receiver
CPU Utilization: local/receiver 3.8% (0.6%u/3.2%s), remote/sender 0.1%
(0.0%u/0.1%s)
iperf Done.
As you can see, I'm getting about half of the 50Mbits/sec for which I
contracted. But this is way better than my actual speed. I ran the same
test with udp packets and got:
root@xxx# iperf3 -c iperf.scottlinux.com -R -u -V
iperf 3.0.7
Linux x 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1
(2015-04-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux
Time: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 23:35:07 GMT
Connecting to host iperf.scottlinux.com, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host iperf.scottlinux.com is sending
Cookie: xx.1433460907.576325.688abe
[ 4] local 192.168.1.7 port 60092 connected to 173.230.156.66 port 5201
Starting Test: protocol: UDP, 1 streams, 8192 byte blocks, omitting 0
seconds, 10 second test
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total
Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 136 KBytes 1.11 Mbits/sec 1.587 ms 0/17 (0%)
[ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.902 ms 0/16 (0%)
[ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.650 ms 0/16 (0%)
[ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.565 ms 0/16 (0%)
[ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.533 ms 0/16 (0%)
[ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.598 ms 0/16 (0%)
[ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.580 ms 0/16 (0%)
[ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.577 ms 0/16 (0%)
[ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.774 ms 0/16 (0%)
[ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 128 KBytes 1.05 Mbits/sec 0.660 ms 0/16 (0%)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Test Complete. Summary Results:
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total
Datagrams
[ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.26 MBytes 1.06 Mbits/sec 0.660 ms 0/161 (0%)
[ 4] Sent 161 datagr
Latest version of gettext not run
Hi $ uname -a Linux debian 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux I have forced installed latest version of gettext: $ dpkg --list gettext ... ii gettext 0.19.3-2~bpo70 i386 GNU ... but the previous version is run by calls: $ gettext --version gettext (GNU gettext-runtime) 0.18.1 ... What do I do to fix this? Thanks / Tomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604232701.ga32...@debian.tompa.tv
32to64 decision
i have an old small office server providing dhcp/dns/squid/custom cyrus debs/postfix/samba services which at the time of lenny did not have enough ram to choose the 64bit version. now that i've managed to get more ram into it i'd like to migrate it to 64bit. nothing really requires 64bit but rather i feel more peace of mind knowing i'm getting rid of the last 32bit box. which path should i choose: wheezy32 > wheezy64 > jessie64 OR wheezy32 > jessie32 > jessie64? which one should be easier? I previously did a wheezy32 > wheezy64 for it's backup box and went ok, even if there is no comprehensive updated howto documentation available (or wasn't I able to find it, if it exists). i am wondering if jessie 32to64 is anyway smoother than wheezy 32to64. tia
Broadcom b43 Drivers
I forgot to mention in my last post, when I attempted to install the old driver from broadcom which I have used before, I get the message: insmod: ERROR: could not insert module wl.ko: Invalid module format This has not happened in the past, it just installed and worked fine.] -- JM
Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font
Mike Kupfer wrote: > Sven Hartge wrote: >> Just for fun: could you check with >> >> xdpyinfo | grep resolution >> >> what DPI value is reported on your system and in the VM? > Both report "96x96 dots per inch". Interesting. Strange. But ... oh well, the work-around works. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2blt96irm...@mids.svenhartge.de
Broadcom b43 drivers
OK, I probably have my system all messed up. Here's the sequence of events: Discovered errors with the nouveau driver (I'm using NVIDIA GeForce 7130 chipset) and did some research, nvidia-detect recommended the legacy 304xx driver, so I followed all the instructions on the wiki for installing said driver. This broke the system. X would not start, I have only command line. Not being really up to speed on everything needed to fix the system, and having tried several thing to no avail, I boot to rescue mode, using the installer environment so that previous root is not mounted. I deleted everything, except /root and /home, wherein I have data I do not want to lose, in order to start with a basically clean slate. I download and burn the jessie net-install CD and boot to that and install jessie. My broadcom wireless (using the BC4321 AG chipset) will not come up. This is not unexpected, there is no firmware installed as of yet for that NIC. I follow all of the instructions on wiki for obtaining the firmware and installing it to bring the card up (which worked in a previous incarnation of the system). The card still will not come up. I pulled out the old driver I was using which I got from broadcom, and had installed it in the past to get everything working. I attempted to install it using the instructions provided with the driver (which had worked in the past). The card still will not come up. I do an lspci | grep Network command and the controller does show up (03:00.0). What the devil am I doing wrong, and how do I get my wifi adapter back?? Note that I had used the firmware-b43-installer package in a past jessie incarnation and it worked great. -- JM
Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font
Sven Hartge wrote: > Just for fun: could you check with > > xdpyinfo | grep resolution > > what DPI value is reported on your system and in the VM? Both report "96x96 dots per inch". mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/19505.1433457410@allegro.localdomain
Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font
On 05.06.2015 00:24, Mike Kupfer wrote: >> Pinning the DPI setting in Appearance>Fonts to a fixed value >> instead of letting it auto detect the value fixed that for me. > Yes, that worked for me, too. Thanks! Just for fun: could you check with xdpyinfo | grep resolution what DPI value is reported on your system and in the VM? Grüße, Sven. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font
Sven Hartge wrote: > Pinning the DPI setting in Appearance>Fonts to > a fixed value instead of letting it auto detect the value fixed that for > me. Yes, that worked for me, too. Thanks! mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/19000.1433456691@allegro.localdomain
Re: pendrive permissions
On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 04:20:25PM +0200, Pol Hallen wrote: > Hi all :-) > > I use debian testing with mate desktop. How can I handles pendrive > permissions? When I put in a pendrive, caja (mate window manager) can't > mount it with this error message "unable to mount. Not authorized to perform > operation". > > Where mate handles usb permissions? When I put in a usb drive, if I watch the logs, I see something about udisksd mounting it. That's in the udisks2 package. Is that installed? Also, a machine I used today was mounting usb drives but the owner would be set to root, so a non-root user wasn't allowed to write. Fixed it by commenting out the usb-related lines in /etc/fstab. (I don't know why they were there, but probably something left over from when I installed testing from a usb stick a few months ago.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604220239.GA24106@side
Re: Old Computers
On 06/04/2015 05:44 PM, Jose Martinez wrote: On 06/03/2015 09:55 AM, Mike McClain wrote: On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at all. So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not really be a problem in this situation. I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list. I sure appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when I actually have the systems in hand. -- JM If you need linux on a 386 that's where I started with DosLinux. I still have a copy if you're interested. As I recall no Xwindows just command line. Mike -- "Why fit in when you can stand out?" - Dr. Seuss I may take you up on that, depending on what I end up with. Hopefully, I'll have at least one motherboard with a pentium class chipset. But, still, it might be interesting to get even the older ones up, just for laughs. Just for ducks I installed Caldera to an older machine. It was pitiful to watch Netscape Navigator try to update itself. :( Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5570ca65.6080...@gmail.com
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 00:43:51 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:36:01 -0400 > German wrote: > > > > > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a > > > > > > > while I got banned for no obvious reason. So I have > > > > > > > decided to create another account with a free proxy, > > > > > > > cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > > > > > > > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I > > > > > > > successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > > > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The > > > > > > > message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I > > > > > > > believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any > > > > > > > ideas what can be done in this situation so I can post? > > > > > > > Thank so much for all of your insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't > > > > > > allow postings from it. > > > > > > > > > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > > > > > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP > > > > > *and* the message board checks it too. > > > > > > > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that > > > > be that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the > > > > whole linux system is subject to filtering? > > > > > > It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling > > > everyone interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of > > > User-Agent string. And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your > > > own PC) regardless of the browser you're using. > > > > > > Reco > > > > > > > > > > Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is? > > You're joking, right? Ok, I'll play along. > > apt-get install privoxy -y > > x-www-browser /usr/share/doc/privoxy/index.html > > Run first command as root, the second as a normal user. > > Reco > > No, I am not joking and thank you. I am not as linux computer savvy as you. I think I'll try your suggestion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604175854.77695...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:49:41 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 04 June 2015 22:33:41 German wrote: > > Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy > > Then don't discuss it here. > > People who bypass email blacklistings are very annoying. You have > presumably been blacklisted because the list doesn't want you. > > Lisi > > do not tell me everyone on the list. You have no information to be based on. And there are people on THIS list who are trying to help me to solve my problem. And of course there will be people like you who know this all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604175711.1a790...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thursday 04 June 2015 22:33:41 German wrote: > Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy Then don't discuss it here. People who bypass email blacklistings are very annoying. You have presumably been blacklisted because the list doesn't want you. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506042249.41837.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font
Mike Kupfer wrote: > Mike Kupfer wrote: >> Last night I updated my stretch VM (VirtualBox), and I now see larger >> characters in several places, including >> >> - xfwm4 titlebar >> - labels in the Xfce window buttons applet >> - Xfce application menu >> - Xfce logout dialog > [...] >> The VM was previously updated on June 1st. It's not obvious to me from >> looking at last night's list of updated/new packages what would be >> causing this. > Someone at $DAYJOB reported a similar problem, which he tied to an > upgrade from the VirtualBox 4.3.26 Guest Additions to 4.3.28. And > that upgrade was part of last night's update list. > I haven't yet tried reverting to the 4.3.26 Guest Additions, but that > seems likely to be where the problem is. I am seeing this as well. Pinning the DPI setting in Appearance>Fonts to a fixed value instead of letting it auto detect the value fixed that for me. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/0blt5u3rm...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: Old Computers
On 06/03/2015 09:55 AM, Mike McClain wrote: On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 07:04:13PM -0500, Jose Martinez wrote: And I will probably not use these system(s) on line much if any at all. So most of the security issues will fixed or not will not really be a problem in this situation. I see I've sparked a pretty good discussion on the list. I sure appreciate all the advice/information it will come in very handy when I actually have the systems in hand. -- JM If you need linux on a 386 that's where I started with DosLinux. I still have a copy if you're interested. As I recall no Xwindows just command line. Mike -- "Why fit in when you can stand out?" - Dr. Seuss I may take you up on that, depending on what I end up with. Hopefully, I'll have at least one motherboard with a pentium class chipset. But, still, it might be interesting to get even the older ones up, just for laughs. -- JM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5570c6c8.8020...@gmail.com
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
Hi. On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:36:01 -0400 German wrote: > > > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I > > > > > > got banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create > > > > > > another account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and > > > > > > continue to do some conversations with a members with which I > > > > > > have enjoyed talking. I successfully created account with web > > > > > > proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the message board. > > > > > > The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I > > > > > > believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas > > > > > > what can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so > > > > > > much for all of your insights. > > > > > > > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > > > > postings from it. > > > > > > > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > > > > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* > > > > the message board checks it too. > > > > > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be > > > that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole > > > linux system is subject to filtering? > > > > It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone > > interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string. > > And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of > > the browser you're using. > > > > Reco > > > > > > Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is? You're joking, right? Ok, I'll play along. apt-get install privoxy -y x-www-browser /usr/share/doc/privoxy/index.html Run first command as root, the second as a normal user. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150605004351.d975fadbf01722ca5fb37...@gmail.com
Re: Old Computers
On 06/03/2015 04:48 PM, John Hasler wrote: Renaud writes: Which certainly taught you the hard way to draw one (or several) diagonal pencil or ink lines across the top of your card deck... Or to number your cards so that you could simply run a scrambled deck through the card sorter. That's cheatingyou have to hand sort those things!! -- JM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5570c666.2070...@gmail.com
Re: stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font
Mike Kupfer wrote: > Last night I updated my stretch VM (VirtualBox), and I now see larger > characters in several places, including > > - xfwm4 titlebar > - labels in the Xfce window buttons applet > - Xfce application menu > - Xfce logout dialog [...] > The VM was previously updated on June 1st. It's not obvious to me from > looking at last night's list of updated/new packages what would be > causing this. Someone at $DAYJOB reported a similar problem, which he tied to an upgrade from the VirtualBox 4.3.26 Guest Additions to 4.3.28. And that upgrade was part of last night's update list. I haven't yet tried reverting to the 4.3.26 Guest Additions, but that seems likely to be where the problem is. mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/18187.1433454108@allegro.localdomain
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 00:05:57 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:37:12 -0400 > German wrote: > > > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I > > > > > got banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create > > > > > another account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and > > > > > continue to do some conversations with a members with which I > > > > > have enjoyed talking. I successfully created account with web > > > > > proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the message board. > > > > > The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I > > > > > believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas > > > > > what can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so > > > > > much for all of your insights. > > > > > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > > > postings from it. > > > > > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > > > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* > > > the message board checks it too. > > > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be > > that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole > > linux system is subject to filtering? > > It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone > interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string. > And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of > the browser you're using. > > Reco > > Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604173601.41f8d...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:51:08 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > German writes: > > Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found > > list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still > > have the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know > > this proxy address, it is not free web based address. > > If you can find that list so can they. I still doubt it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604173645.677f7...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:53:20 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > German writes: > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be > > that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole > > linux system is subject to filtering? > > Tell us what this forum is so that we can try it. Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604173341.724ed...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
Hi. On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:37:12 -0400 German wrote: > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I > > > > got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the > > > > server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in > > > > this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your > > > > insights. > > > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > > postings from it. > > > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the > > message board checks it too. > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be that > my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux > system is subject to filtering? It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string. And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of the browser you're using. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150605000557.149cbd4e81f7e92d02af0...@gmail.com
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
German writes: > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be > that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux > system is subject to filtering? Tell us what this forum is so that we can try it. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87sia7qjpb@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
German writes: > Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found > list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still have > the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know this proxy > address, it is not free web based address. If you can find that list so can they. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87wpzjqjsz@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thursday 04 June 2015 20:34:19 German wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:02:34 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote: > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got > > > was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server > > > can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this > > > situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. > > > > A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS. > > Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private > > life? > > That is because I use Debian and I think people who use linux is also > conscious about security matters. But we are not talking about security. We are talking about how you can bypass having been blacklisted. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506042138.02363.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: much longer boot time with jessie
David Wright wrote: > $ systemd-analyze blame > 36.727s wicd.service > 22.102s binfmt-support.service > 20.789s alsa-restore.service > 20.618s lm-sensors.service > 20.565s systemd-logind.service > 20.471s rsyslog.service > 20.468s rc-local.service > 20.465s systemd-user-sessions.service > 20.462s apmd.service > 20.461s virtualbox.service > 20.461s loadcpufreq.service > 20.460s gpm.service > 20.135s bluetooth.service > 19.730s exim4.service > 11.922s timidity.service This is very very strange. But I notice a common pattern among those service. Nearly all take about 20.4 seconds to start. To compare, here is a list of the top services from my workstation: 8.540s systemd-journal-flush.service 4.379s dev-md0.device 4.359s dev-dm\x2d0.device 4.063s accounts-daemon.service 3.329s munin-node.service 3.041s systemd-udev-settle.service 2.806s teamviewerd.service 2.743s binfmt-support.service 2.391s mdadm-raid.service 2.084s systemd-logind.service 2.010s loadcpufreq.service 1.987s irqbalance.service 1.973s rsyslog.service 1.953s systemd-user-sessions.service 1.942s timidity.service 1.940s lm-sensors.service 1.648s schroot.service 1.639s lightdm.service 1.598s avahi-daemon.service 1.408s mcelog.service 1.354s sensord.service 1.330s systemd-cryptsetup@cswap.service 1.224s dirmngr.service 1.168s autofs.service 1.109s virtualbox.service (systemd-journal-flush takes so long, because is set to persistent and has to flush the journal to a read HDD instead of to /run, which is a tmpfs.) As you can see, most services start in under 3 seconds. The whole startup from kernel to lightdm takes 29.5 seconds: Startup finished in 5.721s (kernel) + 23.808s (userspace) = 29.529s > I've tried to analyse the Login-BashPrompt time of 30-34 secs. > I added set -v to the start of .bash_profile and the end of .bashrc, > and set +v to the start of .bashrc and the end of .bash_profile, > ie excluding tracing .bashrc because it lists every function > as they are defined. > What I discovered is that .bash_profile is reached 16 seconds after > "You have new mail." and that a function which copies a lot of my > startup files to /tmp/.my-startups/ takes over 15 seconds to run. > (The disk activity light is lit through the entire boot/login process > and beyond.) What is that "my startup files"? This must be something special and home brewn on your system, right? I guess this special function runs for every init-script and causing the delay of your boot. Could you please disable whatever does this "copying of my startup files" and try again? Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/dblt15l8b...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze
On Thursday 04 June 2015 14:39:01 notoneofmy wrote: > On 15-06-04 11:41 AM, Matthew Chong wrote: > > Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window), > > iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some > > time after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that > > the issue gone away. > > I have had to restart several times. But the problem remains. > > I think the real problem is this. I have lots and lots of lines like > these in the attached .doc log file. > > gnome-sgnome session[1249]: (gnome-shell:1388): mutter-WARNING **: > STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window 0x5e01200016 not in stack > > > > Any help is appreciated. You would get more if you sent legible files. This is not the Microsoft Users mauiling list. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506042127.12432.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
Quoting Chris Bannister (cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz): > On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:35AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > That at least got me the menu items I was looking for. > > I'm about to do a reinstall from scratch for other problems. More later. > > The great thing about Debian, is that you *don't* have to do a > reinstall. What problem are you having that makes you think you need to > reinstall? Well I install on my other partition (ie flipping back and forth) because I don't backup my system. (I only backup any configuration files that I modify.) Therefore I need to know that I can reinstall the system from scratch and that I have any and all of the packages that I preserve from version to version (xtoolwait springs to mind because this hasn't been supported since squeeze). Also I need to know that I can install non-Debian/non-free stuff which was previously installed when the system was in an earlier state. The fresh install then becomes my default system, though I upgrade the other partition occasionally. At the moment I'm stuck with a single jessie installation because I can't yet afford to part with wheezy on the other partition. I would like to see if jessie will run as fast as wheezy if I install it afresh in an ext4 partition (though I fear the worst). Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604200803.GA17015@alum
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:12:44 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote: > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I > > > got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the > > > server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in > > > this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your > > > insights. > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > postings from it. > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the > message board checks it too. I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux system is subject to filtering? > > Or the proxy intercepted forum's login credentials so they can be used > to spam the message board in question. The possibilities are endless. > > The fine point of the story - don't trust the proxy *you* do not > control. Even if they don't charge you for using it. Especially if > they don't charge you. > > Reco > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604153712.4787c...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:35AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: That at least got me the menu items I was looking for. I'm about to do a reinstall from scratch for other problems. More later. The great thing about Debian, is that you *don't* have to do a reinstall. What problem are you having that makes you think you need to reinstall? I do all my experimenting on a laptop I purchased used for that purpose several years ago. It's been doing strange things which decades of component level trouble shooting gives me a gut feel not to trust the hardware. Then again there's always random operator error ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5570a867.7050...@cloud85.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:02:34 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote: > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got > > was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server > > can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this > > situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. > > A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS. > Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private > life? > > That is because I use Debian and I think people who use linux is also conscious about security matters. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604153419.35669...@asterius.asterius.net
send logs in plain text NOT as a .doc file (was ...Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze)
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 03:39:01PM +0200, notoneofmy wrote: > On 15-06-04 11:41 AM, Matthew Chong wrote: > > Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window), > > iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some time > > after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that the > > issue gone away. > I have had to restart several times. But the problem remains. > > I think the real problem is this. I have lots and lots of lines like > these in the attached .doc log file. Could you please not send .doc files as they require a special program to read them. plain text is preferred then anyone can read it. e.g. I'm not gonna install a program just to read a .doc file, I'm guessing I'm not the only one. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604192100.GB16850@tal
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
Hi. On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote: > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned > > for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with > > a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully > > created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the > > message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. > > So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what > > can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of > > your insights. > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > postings from it. Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the message board checks it too. Or the proxy intercepted forum's login credentials so they can be used to spam the message board in question. The possibilities are endless. The fine point of the story - don't trust the proxy *you* do not control. Even if they don't charge you for using it. Especially if they don't charge you. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604221244.c6c792b35ba3ec94c78fa...@gmail.com
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:35AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > That at least got me the menu items I was looking for. > I'm about to do a reinstall from scratch for other problems. More later. The great thing about Debian, is that you *don't* have to do a reinstall. What problem are you having that makes you think you need to reinstall? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604191226.GA16850@tal
Re: much longer boot time with jessie
Quoting Michael Biebl (bi...@debian.org): > Am 04.06.2015 um 06:59 schrieb David Wright: > > $ systemd-analyze blame > > 1min 13.144s acpi-support.service > > Can you please try and uninstall and purge > the following packages (not typically needed with jessie anyway) > > acpid > acpi-support-base > acpi-support > consolekit I've purged (in three tranches): [REMOVE, NOT USED] acpi-fakekey:i386 [REMOVE, NOT USED] libck-connector0:i386 [REMOVE, NOT USED] libpam-ck-connector:i386 [REMOVE] acpi-support:i386 [REMOVE] acpi-support-base:i386 [REMOVE] acpid:i386 [REMOVE] avahi-autoipd:i386 [REMOVE] avahi-daemon:i386 [REMOVE, NOT USED] libavahi-core7:i386 [REMOVE, NOT USED] libdaemon0:i386 [REMOVE] modemmanager:i386 but the resulting timings are not encouraging: 74 to login, 30 to bash prompt, 62 for X. After the third tranche: $ systemd-analyze blame 36.727s wicd.service 22.102s binfmt-support.service 20.789s alsa-restore.service 20.618s lm-sensors.service 20.565s systemd-logind.service 20.471s rsyslog.service 20.468s rc-local.service 20.465s systemd-user-sessions.service 20.462s apmd.service 20.461s virtualbox.service 20.461s loadcpufreq.service 20.460s gpm.service 20.135s bluetooth.service 19.730s exim4.service 11.922s timidity.service 6.523s ntp.service 5.925s colord.service 4.376s kbd.service 4.109s networking.service 3.461s systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service 3.400s systemd-modules-load.service 3.257s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john03.service 3.215s keyboard-setup.service 3.027s systemd-fsck@dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john02.service 2.947s irqbalance.service 2.775s nfs-common.service 2.600s systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service 2.215s rpcbind.service 1.900s dev-hugepages.mount 1.808s dev-mqueue.mount 1.788s resolvconf.service 1.773s hdparm.service 1.753s westw.mount 1.738s sys-kernel-debug.mount 1.428s systemd-journal-flush.service 1.420s systemd-setup-dgram-qlen.service 1.226s user@1000.service 1.167s cpufrequtils.service 1.145s systemd-udev-trigger.service 1.013s aumix.service 927ms gdomap.service 828ms saned.service 658ms kmod-static-nodes.service 521ms dev-disk-by\x2dlabel-john04.swap 486ms systemd-update-utmp.service 381ms systemd-udevd.service 366ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service 310ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill2.service 310ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill1.service 310ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill0.service 287ms systemd-sysctl.service 241ms home.mount 218ms systemd-backlight@backlight:dell_backlight.service 195ms clamav-daemon.socket 178ms systemd-random-seed.service 108ms console-setup.service 65ms systemd-remount-fs.service 52ms systemd-rfkill@rfkill3.service 47ms udev-finish.service 18ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount 8ms systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service 3ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount $ systemd-analyze critical-chain The time after the unit is active or started is printed after the "@" character. The time the unit takes to start is printed after the "+" character. graphical.target @1min 17.390s └─multi-user.target @1min 17.390s └─exim4.service @57.659s +19.730s └─clamav-daemon.service @57.652s └─basic.target @36.880s └─sockets.target @36.877s └─clamav-daemon.socket @36.678s +195ms └─sysinit.target @36.671s └─nfs-common.service @33.893s +2.775s └─rpcbind.target @33.886s └─rpcbind.service @31.667s +2.215s └─network-online.target @31.661s └─network.target @31.657s └─networking.service @27.545s +4.109s └─local-fs.target @27.522s └─run-rpc_pipefs.mount @36.015s └─local-fs-pre.target @12.226s └─systemd-remount-fs.service @12.152s +65ms └─keyboard-setup.service @8.928s +3.215s └─systemd-udevd.service @8.537s +381ms └─systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service @5.073s +3.461s └─kmod-static-nodes.service @4.412s +658ms └─system.slice @4.406s └─-.slice @4.405s I've tried to analyse the Login-BashPrompt time of 30-34 secs. I added set -v to the start of .bash_profile and the end of
Re: practical difference between "main" and "contrib"/"non-free" package sections
Hi. Please refrain from personal e-mail. It's considered inapproprate here. I'm sending this e-mail to the list and suggesting you to do the same with your original e-mail. On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 21:38:15 +0300 Mister EpicMannow wrote: > Thank you for your explanation. > I understand now, what problems can one meet, if he deals with non-free. > So: > 'non-free' packages get security fixes, bug fixes, other changes only when > it is possible according to license > 'non-free' packages may have no sources available > in terms of support (except two statements above) 'non-free' packages are > just like 'main' packages. > 'contrib' packages are in terms of support just like 'main' packages > ''contrib' and 'non-free' packages will remain in the repositories for as > long as there are people ready to maintain them, and they get upstream > upgrades (just like packages in 'main'). > Correct? Correct, with one exception. If 'non-free' package does not have the source - it's impossible to fix it. Either the vendor should provide the fix (and it can take months if not years for this to happen), or you (as distribution) continue to ship vulnerable software (or firmware as it all the same in this regard), or you drop the offending package entirely. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604220653.0f6c8a85e3c848f72a269...@gmail.com
mate-system-tools is answer -was [Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?]
lostson wrote: [snip] Richard Owlett wrote: With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under System->Administration->Users and Groups . Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? [snip] apt-get install mate-system-tools will get you what you are looking for. LostSon *YES*! That matches both the functionality and form I was looking for. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5570a128.2000...@cloud85.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote: > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned > for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with > a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully > created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the > message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. > So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what > can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of > your insights. A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS. Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private life? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604190234.ge24...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:36:24 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I > > > got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the > > > server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in > > > this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your > > > insights. > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > postings from it. > > > > You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too. > > Or they might have black-listed the IP address you post from ? > > Cheers, > > Ron. Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still have the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know this proxy address, it is not free web based address. I think that maybe blacklisted Debian. LOL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604142022.4189e...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned > > for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with > > a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully > > created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the > > message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. > > So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what > > can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of > > your insights. > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > postings from it. > > You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too. Or they might have black-listed the IP address you post from ? Cheers, Ron. -- What which we call knowledge is ignorance surrounded by laughter. -- Charles Hoy Fort -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604133624.3eea9...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On 04/06/15 18:34, German wrote: Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? People maintain lists of known proxy servers, and some proxy server software probably has a detectable "fingerprint". And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux? Tor is a (quite famous - it even gets mentioned in the newspapers from time to time!) distributed anonymizer project. Its official site is easily found via the Internet search engine of your choice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557091e2.50...@zen.co.uk
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:51:49 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > German writes: > > Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? > > There are published lists of the IPs of known proxies. > > > And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux? > > apt-cache show tor Ok, thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604135424.6ffc7...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
German writes: > Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? There are published lists of the IPs of known proxies. > And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux? apt-cache show tor -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/876173s6oa@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
German writes: > The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe > that the server can identify me somehow. It isn't identifying you. It is identifying the proxy. It is quite common to block proxies since trolls and spammers use them frequently. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87a8wfs720@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote: > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got > > was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server > > can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this > > situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > postings from it. > > You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too. > Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604133451.2ac71...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote: > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned > for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with > a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully > created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the > message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. > So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what > can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of > your insights. It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow postings from it. You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
A little of topic: security and anonymity question
I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604132109.15032...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: Varius Default settings
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 07:19 -0400, Ron Benincasa wrote: > Since I installed Jesse, programs always seem to open full screen, > how/where can I change the default behavior so that they come up in size > and position they were when closed. Also how do I change the default > settings on filemanager so that it automatically shows hidden files and in > list mode. I can not seems to find where I can set these defaults they way > I could in Wheezy. What desktop environment are you using? -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 15:39 +0200, notoneofmy wrote: > On 15-06-04 11:41 AM, Matthew Chong wrote: > > Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window), > > iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some time > > after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that the > > issue gone away. > I have had to restart several times. But the problem remains. > > I think the real problem is this. I have lots and lots of lines like > these in the attached .doc log file. > > gnome-sgnome session[1249]: (gnome-shell:1388): mutter-WARNING **: > STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window 0x5e01200016 not in stack No, that's pretty much harmless. Any hard crash is a bug in the kernel, a driver, or a hardware problem (bad RAM for example). It may just show up when you use Iceweasel or any other modern browser considering that the browser is probably the the most resource-hungry and advanced program most users run. If X locks up, and you can't even switch to a VT I would suspect a problem with the video driver. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: practical difference between "main" and "contrib"/"non-free" package sections
Hi. On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 10:15:36 +0300 Alexander wrote: > Hello. It is said on the Debian website, that contrib and non-free > packages get security updates whenever it is possible, some of these > packages are maintained by official Debian teams (for example, > firmware-linux-nonfree is maintained by Debian Kernel Team). Seems like > the only practical difference in Debian's attitude to contrib/non-free > is that packages from contrib/non-free cannot be included in official > Debian installation images and there is no difference in how Debian > supports main, contrib, non-free. Am I right? > Thank you. No, you're mistaken. Every package should be maintained by someone (or by some team) or it's excluded from the Debian archive. The main difference between 'main' and 'non-free' is that 'main' software's source can be modified by maintainer (and of course, any end-user if said user wishes to do so). 'non-free' software may lack the source entirely. 'contrib' serves as a shim between 'main' and 'non-free' in a sense that by itself 'contrib' software is free (as in 'liberty'), but it's useless without 'non-free'. In terms of support it means that every time some bad vulnerability is discovered - 'main' software can be patched at once. For 'non-free' software everyone is left at the mercy of software vendor. For 'contrib' it depends on the scale of possible breakage. Of course, there are politics involved. For example, the very 'firmware-linux-nonfree' package you mention was not considered 'non-free' by certain Debian Developers back in the day said package was invented. Or, for example, 'hplip' package provides certain programs with the only function of downloading and installing non-free blobs, yet the package itself resides in 'main'. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604185608.e4e37015334dd9442b58f...@gmail.com
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
Hi. On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 09:51:34 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > >> Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the > >> package "kuser". Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will > >> drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I > >> couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now. > >> > >> Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab > >> those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called, > >> though. > > > > The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention. > > Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least. > > > > I loaded with Synaptic and it did not appear in any of the > drop-down menus. > I tried CLI as root and got > bash: usermode: command not found > > As I said in another message, I've some other system level > strangeness to check out. It does not work that way. What you need to run is: /usr/bin/userpasswd or, /usr/bin/userinfo Basically, dpkg -L usermode | egrep '^/usr/s?bin' Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604184604.0d3da52ada0b15f3a7ff4...@gmail.com
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
lostson wrote: On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 14:34 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 04 June 2015 12:26:03 Reco wrote: Hi. On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under System->Administration->Users and Groups . Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? [snip] Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called, though. The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention. Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least. Reco lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude search usermode p usermode - Graphical tools for certain user account manag p usermode:i386- Graphical tools for certain user account manag lisi@Tux-II:~$ cat /etc/debian_version 7.8 lisi@Tux-II:~$ Lisi apt-get install mate-system-tools will get you what you are looking for. LostSon That at least got me the menu items I was looking for. I'm about to do a reinstall from scratch for other problems. More later. Thanks to all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/55706aa7.2000...@cloud85.net
stretch/Xfce: some strings now using larger font
Last night I updated my stretch VM (VirtualBox), and I now see larger characters in several places, including - xfwm4 titlebar - labels in the Xfce window buttons applet - Xfce application menu - Xfce logout dialog But the Xfce settings dialogs (Appearance, Window Manager) say that the font settings have not changed. And the text in the Xfce terminal emulator looks normal. The VM was previously updated on June 1st. It's not obvious to me from looking at last night's list of updated/new packages what would be causing this. I don't see larger-than-expected characters with Cinnamon. Is anyone else seeing this? FWIW, the host is running Jessie, and I'm using the Debian VirtualBox packages. thanks, mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/16558.1433430074@allegro.localdomain
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
Reco wrote: Hi. On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under System->Administration->Users and Groups . Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? I know this isn't what you're asking for, but you could have a look at webmin - it's not included in the repos, but webmin.com has a repo for Debian that you can use. It does this, and a lot of other stuff also. I find it useful for setting up packages and services that I'm not familiar with, since you can make the changes in the webmin UI and then see what has changed in the config files. They also have a package called usermin that is used for setting up per-user stuff, although I haven't used that much. Firends don't let friends to use webmin :) I've been known to login with root privileges before ;/ Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the package "kuser". Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now. Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called, though. The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention. Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least. I loaded with Synaptic and it did not appear in any of the drop-down menus. I tried CLI as root and got bash: usermode: command not found As I said in another message, I've some other system level strangeness to check out. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557065f6.4010...@cloud85.net
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
Petter Adsen wrote: On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under System->Administration->Users and Groups . Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? I know this isn't what you're asking for, but you could have a look at webmin - it's not included in the repos, but webmin.com has a repo for Debian that you can use. It does this, and a lot of other stuff also. I find it useful for setting up packages and services that I'm not familiar with, since you can make the changes in the webmin UI and then see what has changed in the config files. I do prefer single use tools to the "Swiss Army knife". Also, I was looking not only for my own use but to install on a non-geek friend's system. Besides I'm on dialup so would have to visit local library to download. They also have a package called usermin that is used for setting up per-user stuff, although I haven't used that much. Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the package "kuser". Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now. I loaded it, but it crashed in weird ways. I won't blame it yet as I had some strange errors when installing Jessie this time around. There may be hardware problems. Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called, though. Petter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557062f4.9030...@cloud85.net
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 14:34 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 04 June 2015 12:26:03 Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > > > On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500 > > > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under > > > > System->Administration->Users and Groups . > > > > > > > > Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? > [snip] > > > > > > Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab > > > those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called, > > > though. > > > > The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention. > > Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least. > > > > Reco > > lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude search usermode > p usermode - Graphical tools for certain user > account manag > p usermode:i386- Graphical tools for certain user > account manag > lisi@Tux-II:~$ cat /etc/debian_version > 7.8 > lisi@Tux-II:~$ > > Lisi > apt-get install mate-system-tools will get you what you are looking for. LostSon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1433427330.29562.0.ca...@lostsonsvault.org
Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze
On 15-06-04 11:41 AM, Matthew Chong wrote: > Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window), > iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some time > after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that the > issue gone away. I have had to restart several times. But the problem remains. I think the real problem is this. I have lots and lots of lines like these in the attached .doc log file. gnome-sgnome session[1249]: (gnome-shell:1388): mutter-WARNING **: STACK_OP_RAISE_ABOVE: window 0x5e01200016 not in stack Any help is appreciated. systemlog.doc Description: MS-Word document
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
On Thursday 04 June 2015 12:26:03 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > > On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500 > > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under > > > System->Administration->Users and Groups . > > > > > > Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? [snip] > > > > Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab > > those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called, > > though. > > The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention. > Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least. > > Reco lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude search usermode p usermode - Graphical tools for certain user account manag p usermode:i386- Graphical tools for certain user account manag lisi@Tux-II:~$ cat /etc/debian_version 7.8 lisi@Tux-II:~$ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506041434.21696.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
Hi. On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:11:33AM +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under > > System->Administration->Users and Groups . > > > > Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? > > I know this isn't what you're asking for, but you could have a look at > webmin - it's not included in the repos, but webmin.com has a repo for > Debian that you can use. > > It does this, and a lot of other stuff also. I find it useful for > setting up packages and services that I'm not familiar with, since you > can make the changes in the webmin UI and then see what has changed in > the config files. > > They also have a package called usermin that is used for setting up > per-user stuff, although I haven't used that much. Firends don't let friends to use webmin :) > Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the > package "kuser". Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will > drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I > couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now. > > Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab > those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called, > though. The package is called 'usermode', and it's hardly an Ubuntu invention. Said package is provided by Debian main archive since squeeze at least. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604112601.ga11...@d1696.int.rdtex.ru
Varius Default settings
Since I installed Jesse, programs always seem to open full screen, how/where can I change the default behavior so that they come up in size and position they were when closed. Also how do I change the default settings on filemanager so that it automatically shows hidden files and in list mode. I can not seems to find where I can set these defaults they way I could in Wheezy. Thanks in advance. Ron B. -- "This is so abstract, it must be topologically invariant" - Raul Bott
Re: Autologin to X session (Debian 8)?
Nicolas George [2015-06-04 11:35:47+02] wrote: > Le sextidi 16 prairial, an CCXXIII, Teemu Likonen a écrit : >> oma:2:once:/bin/su -l dtw -c /usr/bin/startx /dev/tty8 2>&1 >> So how do I get similar functionality with the new systemd init >> system? > > Someone recently suggested to use "nodm"; a quick test a few days ago > seems to indicate it still works. It works, indeed. Thanks. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Iceweasel slow to freeze
Happens to me as well, was running Skype(hosted in a xterm window), iceweasel and wine notepad++. It totally froze gdm. Crashed again some time after I restarted gdm, then I just gave up and rebooted, after that the issue gone away. On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 at 6:56 am notoneofmy wrote: > I've attached my system log and perhaps I get help, as no luck with that > big search engine. > > But it appears a bigger problem than iceweasel. > > Thanks a lot. > > On 15-06-02 7:58 PM, Ric Moore wrote: > >>> Anyone here having serious issues with Iceweasel in Jessie. > >> > >> Yes it's a real pig, and resource hog. > >> > >>> I went to install some addons and the computer froze. Had to restart. > >> > >> No, never had that happen. > >> > >>> At other times, the browser had done same; cause the computer to > >>> freeze. > >> > >> Are you sure it froze or it was just Iceweasel hogging the whole system? > > > > I've had firefox do the same. Just run it nekkid, without addons, and > > see the difference. > >
Re: Autologin to X session (Debian 8)?
Teemu Likonen [2015-06-04 12:26:08+03] wrote: > Upto Debian 7 I have had this line in my /etc/fstab file: > > oma:2:once:/bin/su -l dtw -c /usr/bin/startx /dev/tty8 2>&1 Obviously I meant /etc/inittab file. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Autologin to X session (Debian 8)?
Le sextidi 16 prairial, an CCXXIII, Teemu Likonen a écrit : > Upto Debian 7 I have had this line in my /etc/fstab file: > > oma:2:once:/bin/su -l dtw -c /usr/bin/startx /dev/tty8 2>&1 > > It seems that it has no effect anymore in Debian 8 (Jessie), probably > because of the new init system (systemd). So how do I get similar > functionality with the new systemd init system? Someone recently suggested to use "nodm"; a quick test a few days ago seems to indicate it still works. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Autologin to X session (Debian 8)?
Hi! When my machine boots it logs in to X session automatically without user login and password prompt. (This is a single-user system with encrypted Luks partitions and I always enter Luks password when the machine boots. I'm the only person in the world who knows the Luks password so this is why I don't need nor want another login prompt.) Upto Debian 7 I have had this line in my /etc/fstab file: oma:2:once:/bin/su -l dtw -c /usr/bin/startx /dev/tty8 2>&1 It seems that it has no effect anymore in Debian 8 (Jessie), probably because of the new init system (systemd). So how do I get similar functionality with the new systemd init system? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 02:14:36 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under > System->Administration->Users and Groups . > > Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? I know this isn't what you're asking for, but you could have a look at webmin - it's not included in the repos, but webmin.com has a repo for Debian that you can use. It does this, and a lot of other stuff also. I find it useful for setting up packages and services that I'm not familiar with, since you can make the changes in the webmin UI and then see what has changed in the config files. They also have a package called usermin that is used for setting up per-user stuff, although I haven't used that much. Or, closer to what you actually wanted, you could take a look at the package "kuser". Obviously, it's intended for use with KDE, so it will drag in some KDE/Qt libraries if you do not already have them. I couldn't find any such tools for GTK with apt-cache right now. Ubuntu has/had GTK tools for this, I think, maybe it's possible to grab those and use them on Jessie? No idea what the package is called, though. Petter -- "I'm ionized" "Are you sure?" "I'm positive." pgpe7_JQkIlad.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Moving server to new server with tar
Hi, I am in the process of moving my server to another VPS. The goal is to keep the old VPS around and convert it to backup MX & DNS amongst other things. I will purchase the new VPS from another company so I can't just copy the vm file/container. As a start, I would do a full tar archive of the old server and start from there. A test on a local VM worked, with some adjustments. Both use Debian 7.8. The services on the old server that need to me moved: - Mail: Postfix, Dovecot, Spamassassin, Clamav, Postgresql, ... - Web: nginx, supervisord, python, php5-fpm, Postgresql, ... - DNS: PowerDNS Tar command from the backup script on the old server: EXCLUDE="--exclude=proc --exclude=sys --exclude=dev/pts --exclude=backups" tar -czpf /backups/full.tar.gz --directory=/ $EXCLUDE / 2>&1 I know I can migrate by first installing all packages, and then copying the config and data from one server to the other. But then you need to pick all data to be moved. It takes longer and it's more prone to error (forgetting something). I want this server to be exactly the same as the first one. What I've found so far in my test: - It's a good thing to first install all the same packages on the new machine first. I didn't do that in my first test and Postfix wouldn't come up because of Exim that was installed on the base version of the new OS. Simple to solve but this wouldn't have happened if I had installed Postfix first as Exim would have been purged. Might be better to start with: Old server: dpkg --get-selections > packages New server: dpkg --set-selections < packages - Extract the tar archive from the root on the new server - Adjust /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, /etc/network/interfaces - Adjust PowerDNS settings on new server. If the new server is up I will need to change the PowerDNS settings on the old server as well and set up DNS synchronization. DNS entries at the domain registrars & reverse DNS will need to be changed. - Check configs of the services above for the old ip or hostname - Run update-grub as the id of the disk has changed. - Reboot This worked well, but I wonder if there are good reasons to not do move the server like this? Thanks for any info or insight Regards, Benedict -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mkovvi$jc2$1...@ger.gmane.org
practical difference between "main" and "contrib"/"non-free" package sections
Hello. It is said on the Debian website, that contrib and non-free packages get security updates whenever it is possible, some of these packages are maintained by official Debian teams (for example, firmware-linux-nonfree is maintained by Debian Kernel Team). Seems like the only practical difference in Debian's attitude to contrib/non-free is that packages from contrib/non-free cannot be included in official Debian installation images and there is no difference in how Debian supports main, contrib, non-free. Am I right? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/556ffb18.5080...@gmail.com
Jessie Mate - a GUI user admin tool?
With Gnome2 under Squeeze there was a users administration tool under System->Administration->Users and Groups . Is there such a tool available for Mate under Jessie? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/556ffadc.70...@cloud85.net
