Re: quel debian sur un samsung 500T

[David]

Le 31.07.2018 18:26, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

- Mail original -

De: "Bernard Schoenacker" 
À: "David" 
Cc: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 18:04:55
Objet: Re: quel debian sur un samsung 500T



- Mail original -
> De: "David" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 13:19:02
> Objet: quel debian sur un samsung 500T
>
> Bonjour,
>
> un ami possède un notebook samsung 500T (model 500T1C)
> c'est une tablette tactile avec un support-clavier
> avec windows 8
>
> mais cet ordinateur "rame" trop et est donc inutilisable pour lui.
>
> Que me conseillez-vous d'installer en remplacement de windows 8 ?
> (pas
> besoin de dual-boot, il faut juste qu'on puisse utiliser la
> tablette
> tactile et le wifi)
>
> D'avance merci,
> David V
>
>

bonjour,

voci la liste du matériel nécessaire :

1 hub usb
1 clavier usb
1 souris usb
1 adaptateur ethernet
1 clé usb conteanant l'image iso

pour l'image iso, il faut choisir une architecture 32bits :

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-9.5.0-i386-xfce.iso
attention, lors de la configuration il faut installer florence ou
xvkbd

avec l'image iso live il est possible de faire un essai non
destructif

et également de faire un lspci afin de déterminer quels sont les
composants
qui vont pouvoir être supportés par linux

et s'il faut installer ou compiler le module pour la carte wifi

le générateur de clé usb (etcher) : https://etcher.io/


merci
slt
bernard



bonjour,

voici une vidéo avec ubuntu et unity :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js_aCnbJzy8

merci

slt
bernard



Merci pour ces conseils !
Il me manque juste l'adapatateur ethernet.
Je vais essayer dès que j'en aurai un,et je vous tiens au courant :)
David

Re: how to prevent security update installation during stretch installation

[deloptes]

David Christensen wrote:

> Why not?

I guess because he's in China and internet costs relatively much there.

Re: update hell

[Default User]

On Jul 31, 2018 23:15, "Ben Caradoc-Davies"  wrote:

On 01/08/18 11:11, Default User wrote:
> I was going to read up on:
> apt-get dist-upgrade -V -s
> But then today, I was able to do a full upgrade, using:
> sudo aptitude -Pvv update
> sudo aptitude -Pvv safe-upgrade
> sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade
> Finally!
> Now, I'm sure using:
> apt-get dist-upgrade -V -s
> would have worked as well, although I thought I read somewhere that mixing
> apt-get and aptitude is not a good idea.

I do not know anything about that.


> Thanks again, Ben.
> And, btw . . .
> dpkg?
> apt-get?
> aptitude?
> apt?

synaptic? No love for synaptic?


> Would Debian please just settle on one, and stick with it?

They do different things at different levels and seem to play nicely
together.

dpkg is the lowest level and manipulates files. apt-get will download
them too, from various sources, and following distribution rules. apt is
a friendlier higher-level command-line interface. aptitude is an ncurses
frontend, good for browsing lists of packages. synaptic is like aptitude
with a GTK frontend.

I only use dpkg and apt-get, but when I started with Debian, I used
synaptic. I came from Red Hat / Fedora, and the only things I miss from
rpm and yum are yum history (with atomic reverts) and the ability to
install multiple concurrent kernel packages without the API versioning
silliness of Debian (which cannot co-install both 4.17.6-2 and 4.17.8-1,
for example, only one linux-image-4.17.0-1-amd64).


Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand




1) Kamaraju, thank you for the pointers to the reading material.

Time to read.

2) Ben, I didn't think to include synapticin the list until after I posted.
I don't normally think of synaptic for general package management; I
normally only use it if I am not sure what package (and dependencies) I am
looking for, or just to browse for something interesting.

I did formerly use apt-get, but now use aptitude instead, because I read
"somewhere" that aptitude has better dependency resolution.

Note: I only use command line aptitude. I find the graphical version of
aptitude to be confusing, non-intuitive, and (for me) not particularly
useful.

Re: update hell

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 01/08/18 11:11, Default User wrote:

I was going to read up on:
apt-get dist-upgrade -V -s
But then today, I was able to do a full upgrade, using:
sudo aptitude -Pvv update
sudo aptitude -Pvv safe-upgrade
sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade
Finally!
Now, I'm sure using:
apt-get dist-upgrade -V -s
would have worked as well, although I thought I read somewhere that mixing
apt-get and aptitude is not a good idea.


I do not know anything about that.


Thanks again, Ben.
And, btw . . .
dpkg?
apt-get?
aptitude?
apt?


synaptic? No love for synaptic?


Would Debian please just settle on one, and stick with it?


They do different things at different levels and seem to play nicely 
together.


dpkg is the lowest level and manipulates files. apt-get will download 
them too, from various sources, and following distribution rules. apt is 
a friendlier higher-level command-line interface. aptitude is an ncurses 
frontend, good for browsing lists of packages. synaptic is like aptitude 
with a GTK frontend.


I only use dpkg and apt-get, but when I started with Debian, I used 
synaptic. I came from Red Hat / Fedora, and the only things I miss from 
rpm and yum are yum history (with atomic reverts) and the ability to 
install multiple concurrent kernel packages without the API versioning 
silliness of Debian (which cannot co-install both 4.17.6-2 and 4.17.8-1, 
for example, only one linux-image-4.17.0-1-amd64).


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: a dh keys question?

[Richard Hector]

On 01/08/18 03:57, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:38:34AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> While the question seems simple, at least to me, the reason behind it is
>> complicated.  so I am hoping to focus on the question first.
>> During the dh key exchange process, where do the user dh key packets come
>> from software wise?
> 
> You generate a private/public key pair with ssh-keygen, and send
> the public key over to your destination in advance, so that they
> can recognize you.

Yes, but that's not the dh (Diffie-Hellman) key. Diffie-Hellman key
exchange is to generate a one-time session key that is discarded after
the session is finished.

>> I have a problem now where each place I try to visit using my ssh client,
>> and my sftp one, I am getting a dh key exchange failure.
>> using the -v command  is not shedding light on the issue.
>> I am using the same client now to reach another  service, but here  we use a
>> different port from port 22.
>> the error started on the 29th of June, and the company providing my dsl
>> service did claim to have a service issue on that day.
>> However they do not speak Linux let alone anything else Unusual.
>> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Are you having problems SSHing to all servers that you try, or
> just to one in particular?
> 
> If it's just one, and that one uses a port other than 22, it's
> likely that your DSL company started filtering that port on the
> 29th. 

If it was a simple port filtering issue, then you'd get something like
'Connection Refused' or 'Destination unreachable' or 'Connection timed
out' - you wouldn't get as far as dh key exchange.

I'm not an expert in this, so might have some details wrong, but I think
the gist of it is right. Happy to be corrected.

Richard



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Re: how to prevent security update installation during stretch installation

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 06:05:04PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> On 07/31/2018 05:42 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 05:36:41PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> > > 
> > > One possibility is to  configure your Internet gateway to block traffic
> > > between the host and the Internet, and then install from CD-1, DVD-*, 
> > > BD-*,
> > > etc., media.
> > > 
> > An easier approach would be that when the installer asks "Would you like
> > to use a network mirror?" you just answer "no."  The installer will then
> > only use the packages available on the install media you supply.
> 
> The first half of my suggestion implies your suggestion.
> 
> 
> The original post implies use of netinst media, which does not contain
> enough packages to install a working Debian system (?).  Thus, the second
> half of my suggestion.
> 
I should have read the entire thread before responding.  Thanks for
pointing out my oversight.

You are correct that a netinst media does not have enough on it for a
complete installation.  However, that is sort of the point of the
netinst media.  Of course, another aspect of the way updates work in
Debian is that when a point update is made all the security updates (and
generally quite a few high priority non-security updates) become part of
the stable release with an increased version number.  For example in the
last few weeks, Debian "Stretch" went from version 9.4 to 9.5.

That sort of makes the "I want to install but I don't want security
updates" not make any sense.  Unless you get the install media for the
first release of a new Stable before any point releases are made, you
will end up with some security updates as part of your installation.
Even then, the new stable release definitely also has security updates
that are left over from the prior stable release (not all packages are
refreshed from one release to the next).

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: how to prevent security update installation during stretch installation

[David Christensen]

On 07/31/2018 05:42 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 05:36:41PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:


One possibility is to  configure your Internet gateway to block traffic
between the host and the Internet, and then install from CD-1, DVD-*, BD-*,
etc., media.


An easier approach would be that when the installer asks "Would you like
to use a network mirror?" you just answer "no."  The installer will then
only use the packages available on the install media you supply.


The first half of my suggestion implies your suggestion.


The original post implies use of netinst media, which does not contain 
enough packages to install a working Debian system (?).  Thus, the 
second half of my suggestion.



David

Re: how to prevent security update installation during stretch installation

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 05:36:41PM -0700, David Christensen wrote:
> 
> One possibility is to  configure your Internet gateway to block traffic
> between the host and the Internet, and then install from CD-1, DVD-*, BD-*,
> etc., media.
> 
An easier approach would be that when the installer asks "Would you like
to use a network mirror?" you just answer "no."  The installer will then
only use the packages available on the install media you supply.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: how to prevent security update installation during stretch installation

[David Christensen]

On 07/31/2018 02:56 PM, Long Wind wrote:

i plan to install debian by network


Okay.


i don't like security update, 


Why not?



how to do it? Thanks!


One possibility is to  configure your Internet gateway to block traffic 
between the host and the Internet, and then install from CD-1, DVD-*, 
BD-*, etc., media.



David

Re: Logs flooded with the same message

[Thiago Machado da Silva]

I've solved this problem creating a xorg.conf file at /etc/X11/ with
the command "Xorg -configure" and disabling PageFlip in this file at
the section Device, uncommenting the Option "PageFlip" and setting it
to "False" (between quotes).

--
Thiago Machado da Silva

Re: update hell

[Default User]

I was going to read up on:

apt-get dist-upgrade -V -s

But then today, I was able to do a full upgrade, using:

sudo aptitude -Pvv update
sudo aptitude -Pvv safe-upgrade
sudo aptitude -Pvv full-upgrade

Finally!

Now, I'm sure using:

apt-get dist-upgrade -V -s

would have worked as well, although I thought I read somewhere that mixing
apt-get and aptitude is not a good idea.

Thanks again, Ben.

And, btw . . .

dpkg?
apt-get?
aptitude?
apt?

Would Debian please just settle on one, and stick with it?





On Jul 30, 2018 8:17 PM, "Ben Caradoc-Davies"  wrote:

On 31/07/18 12:08, Default User wrote:
> As for me, I think I will just wait until the "transition" is over (or at
> least this part of it) before upgrading packages with dependency issues.
> When in doubt, do nothing.

When I am in doubt, I simulate a dist-upgrade with:

apt-get dist-upgrade -V -s


Kind regards,

-- 
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Nettoyage du spam : juillet 2018

[jean-pierre giraud]

Bonjour,
Comme nous sommes en aoüt, il est désormais possible de
traiter les archives du mois de juillet 2018 des listes francophones.

N'oubliez bien sûr pas d'ajouter votre nom à la liste des relecteurs
pour que nous sachions où nous en sommes.

Détails du processus de nettoyage du spam sur :

https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/FrenchSpamClean

Re: Firewall o Filtro de Contenidos en modo Bridge.

[Ramses]

El 31 de julio de 2018 19:52:29 CEST, JCMD  escribió:
>Si,
>
>Tienes que buscar Open bridge transparent proxy.
>
>Saludos
>
>El mar., 31 de jul. de 2018 1:50 PM, Ramses 
>escribió:
>
>> Hola a tod@s,
>>
>> Los firewalls FortiGate tienen un modo de funcionamiento, Bridge, en
>el
>> que lo insertas, entre el router del Operador y la LAN, y actúan como
>> Firewall / Filtro de Contenidos sin tener que cambiar configuración
>ninguna
>> en el router ni en los equipos de la LAN.
>>
>> ¿Sabéis si ese mismo comportamiento lo puedo reproducir con un equipo
>con
>> 2 interfaces sin tener que configurarlo como router?
>>
>>
>> Saludos y gracias,
>>
>> Ramsés
>>
>>

Gracias JCMD, echaré un vistazo.


Saludos,

Ramsés 

Re: Firewall o Filtro de Contenidos en modo Bridge.

[Ramses]

El 31 de julio de 2018 19:54:17 CEST, Itzcoalt Alvarez  
escribió:
>Pfsense podria ser la opcion
>
>El 31 de julio de 2018, 12:50, Ramses 
>escribió:
>
>> Hola a tod@s,
>>
>> Los firewalls FortiGate tienen un modo de funcionamiento, Bridge, en
>el
>> que lo insertas, entre el router del Operador y la LAN, y actúan como
>> Firewall / Filtro de Contenidos sin tener que cambiar configuración
>ninguna
>> en el router ni en los equipos de la LAN.
>>
>> ¿Sabéis si ese mismo comportamiento lo puedo reproducir con un equipo
>con
>> 2 interfaces sin tener que configurarlo como router?
>>
>>
>> Saludos y gracias,
>>
>> Ramsés
>>
>>
>
>
>--

Itzcoalt, buenas noches y gracias por contestar.

¿Y pfsense puede actuar como Firewall y Filtro de Contenidos configurado en 
modo Bridge?

Existen ya appliances específicos con pfsense embebidos, ¿cierto?.

¿Sabéis si esos appliances están abiertos como para desarrollar un Front-End 
específico o si existen routers neutros a los que se les pueda echar Linux y 
pfsense?


Saludos y gracias,

Ramsés

Re: a dh keys question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi
just putting my answer at the top.
My client does have a log option, will aim for that.  still again my first 
priority is finding a place to test  with a nonstandard port.  then I can 
be sure  it really is all about port 22 and 21.

Kare



On Tue, 31 Jul 2018, Dan Ritter wrote:


On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 01:01:31PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:

Hi again,



ssh-keygen is a command that comes along with your SSH client in
Debian (and all other UNIX-like systems that supply OpenSSH).

Understood.


That sounds like your DSL company decided to block port 22,
which is somewhere between ridiculous and evil.

(21 is FTP, by the way.)

Yes, on port 21 being for ftp, meaning it would have to be blocked as well
which   seems frankly impossible.




1. Reboot your DSL modem and/or router just in case.

Not only has that been done, I actually  got someone at Bell Canada to reset
my account information on their side to default.
That worked once before when I could not reach dreamhost.

2. Test that you still can't ssh to server:22
3. Test that you can't connect via ssh to chat.shazow.net (it
will allow anyone on, no credentials)


Okay, did that once producing the same dh key error, but will do it again
with /v to note what happens.


4. Complain to your DSL company.


But that is why I desire a server to test that, like here at shellworld, is
using something other than port 22.  Otherwise I just get a repeat of the
same conversation, we do not support your operating system.
Although, I am wondering, if the port were blocked, if  I would get as much
information as I am getting from /v?


Show us the whole output.

-dsr-

Re: What's the deal with the mpfr versioning? libmpfr4 vs. libmpfr6

[Stefan Monnier]

> I can't find any evidence for that without being told where to look.

It was in the previous message:

https://packages.debian.org/sid/libmpfr4
https://packages.debian.org/sid/libmpfr6

>> Doesn't explain why one says "Package: libmpfr4 (3.1.6-1)" and the other
>> says "[mpfr4_4.0.1-1.dsc]": both "3.1.6-1" and "4.0.1-1" are Debian
>> version numbers and they are usually the same.
>
> I'm not sure you're quoting from here.

>From https://packages.debian.org/sid/libmpfr4

> That seems unlikely to me. I'm not going to bother to download the
> source to find out, but I suspect that the 4 in Packages's "Source:
> mpfr4" line is spurious,

Agreed, I hadn't noticed this little "4" in there.  I have no idea what
it means.  I was only looking at (and talking about) the Debian
version numbers and the "4" and "6" of "libmpfr4" and "libmpfr6".


Stefan

Indicador de volumen en XFCE4

[Julian Daich]

Hola,

No me aparece el indicador de volumen en Sid¿ como hago para que esté
en el área de notificaciones?

Saludos,

Julián

-- 
Julian

Re: a dh keys question?

[Dan Ritter]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 01:01:31PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Hi again,
> 
> 
> > ssh-keygen is a command that comes along with your SSH client in
> > Debian (and all other UNIX-like systems that supply OpenSSH).
> Understood.
> 
> > That sounds like your DSL company decided to block port 22,
> > which is somewhere between ridiculous and evil.
> > 
> > (21 is FTP, by the way.)
> Yes, on port 21 being for ftp, meaning it would have to be blocked as well
> which   seems frankly impossible.
> 
> 
> > 
> > 1. Reboot your DSL modem and/or router just in case.
> Not only has that been done, I actually  got someone at Bell Canada to reset
> my account information on their side to default.
> That worked once before when I could not reach dreamhost.
> > 2. Test that you still can't ssh to server:22
> > 3. Test that you can't connect via ssh to chat.shazow.net (it
> > will allow anyone on, no credentials)
> 
> Okay, did that once producing the same dh key error, but will do it again
> with /v to note what happens.
> 
> > 4. Complain to your DSL company.
> 
> But that is why I desire a server to test that, like here at shellworld, is
> using something other than port 22.  Otherwise I just get a repeat of the
> same conversation, we do not support your operating system.
> Although, I am wondering, if the port were blocked, if  I would get as much
> information as I am getting from /v?

Show us the whole output.

-dsr-

Re: quel debian sur un samsung 500T

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail original -
> De: "Pascal Hambourg" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 20:16:42
> Objet: Re: quel debian sur un samsung 500T
> 
> Le 31/07/2018 à 18:04, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> > 
> > pour l'image iso, il faut choisir une architecture 32bits :
> 
> Pourquoi ? Cette machine n'a pas un processeur 64 bits ?
> 
> 
bonjour,

c'est un cpu atom et je pense qu'il soit judicieux de passer 
en 32bits pour l'essai en live cdrom ...
rien n'interdit d'essayer une image iso 64bits

merci
slt
bernard

Re: quel debian sur un samsung 500T

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 31/07/2018 à 18:04, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :


pour l'image iso, il faut choisir une architecture 32bits :


Pourquoi ? Cette machine n'a pas un processeur 64 bits ?

Logs flooded with the same message

[Thiago Machado da Silva]

Hello,

The files .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log, /var/log/user.log and
/var/log/syslog are flooded with the same messages. The files are
huge. The messages are:

(EE) modeset(0): Failed to get GBM bo for flip to new front.
(EE) modeset(0): present flip failed



--
Thiago Machado da Silva

Re: Firewall o Filtro de Contenidos en modo Bridge.

[JCMD]

Si,

Tienes que buscar Open bridge transparent proxy.

Saludos

El mar., 31 de jul. de 2018 1:50 PM, Ramses 
escribió:

> Hola a tod@s,
>
> Los firewalls FortiGate tienen un modo de funcionamiento, Bridge, en el
> que lo insertas, entre el router del Operador y la LAN, y actúan como
> Firewall / Filtro de Contenidos sin tener que cambiar configuración ninguna
> en el router ni en los equipos de la LAN.
>
> ¿Sabéis si ese mismo comportamiento lo puedo reproducir con un equipo con
> 2 interfaces sin tener que configurarlo como router?
>
>
> Saludos y gracias,
>
> Ramsés
>
>

Firewall o Filtro de Contenidos en modo Bridge.

[Ramses]

Hola a tod@s,

Los firewalls FortiGate tienen un modo de funcionamiento, Bridge, en el que lo 
insertas, entre el router del Operador y la LAN, y actúan como Firewall / 
Filtro de Contenidos sin tener que cambiar configuración ninguna en el router 
ni en los equipos de la LAN.

¿Sabéis si ese mismo comportamiento lo puedo reproducir con un equipo con 2 
interfaces sin tener que configurarlo como router?


Saludos y gracias,

Ramsés

Re: a dh keys question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi again,



ssh-keygen is a command that comes along with your SSH client in
Debian (and all other UNIX-like systems that supply OpenSSH).

Understood.


That sounds like your DSL company decided to block port 22,
which is somewhere between ridiculous and evil.

(21 is FTP, by the way.)
Yes, on port 21 being for ftp, meaning it would have to be blocked as well 
which   seems frankly impossible.





1. Reboot your DSL modem and/or router just in case.
Not only has that been done, I actually  got someone at Bell Canada to 
reset my account information on their side to default.

That worked once before when I could not reach dreamhost.

2. Test that you still can't ssh to server:22
3. Test that you can't connect via ssh to chat.shazow.net (it
will allow anyone on, no credentials)


Okay, did that once producing the same dh key error, but will do it again 
with /v to note what happens.



4. Complain to your DSL company.


But that is why I desire a server to test that, like here at shellworld, 
is using something other than port 22.  Otherwise I just get a repeat of 
the same conversation, we do not support your operating system.
Although, I am wondering, if the port were blocked, if  I would get as much 
information as I am getting from /v?

Kare

Re: Problemas de permisos en samba

[Fernando Romero]

El 31 de julio de 2018, 12:08, Raimundo Baravaglio <
rbaravag...@blgnet.com.ar> escribió:

> Ejemplo de configuración para cada carpeta:
> 
>
> [Tu_Carpeta_Compartida]
> comment = Carpeta Compartida
> path = /home/carpetacompartida
> browseable = yes
> force user = tu_nombre_de_usuario
> force group = carpetacompartidacontodos
> create mode = 660
> directory mode = 770
> read only = no
> guest ok = no
> writeable = yes
> valid users = @carpetacompartidacontodos
>
> 
>
> Para que esto funcione, tendrás que agregar a todos los usuarios (a los
> que quieras dar permiso de acceso a una carpeta determinada) a un grupo
> determinado (en el ejemplo:  "carpetacompartidacontodos")
>
> Eso se hace desde consola con los comandos:
>
>
>1. sudo groupadd carpetacompartidacontodos (esto agrega el nuevo grupo
>al sistema)
>2. sudo usermod -g carpetacompartidacontodos nombre_del_usuario_que_se_
>agrega_al_grupo
>
>
> Después, tenés que nombrar desde el sistema a ese grupo como propietario
> de la carpeta con:
>
> sudo chown -R usuario_propietario_de_la_carpeta:carpetacompartidacontodos
> carpetacompartidacontodos
>
> El comando chown modifica al propietario de una carpeta determinada y
> también al grupo propietario. La opción "-R" (en mayúsculas) hace que
> abarque todo lo que está en su interior, tanto carpetas como archivos, para
> darles propiedad sobre los mismos con el mismo usuario y grupo.
>
> Una última aclaración: Es necesario que cada usuario tenga (además de su
> clave del sistema Linux) una clave de acceso para SAMBA. Para esto es
> necesario que el usuario se agregue al sistema SAMBA mediante el siguiente
> comando:
>
> *smbpasswd –a nombre_del_usuario*
>
> Con eso tendría que funcionarte todo sin problemas.
>
> Saludos!
>
>
>
> *Raimundo Baravaglio*
>
> *Dto. Sistemas*
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>> Configure para compartir un directorio en samba y lo puedo mapear y ver
>> desde Windows pero no puedo hacer que tenga permisos de escritura.
>> Esta es la conf del smb.conf
>>
>> [global]
>> workgroup = WORKGROUP
>> server string = %h server
>> log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
>> max log size = 1000
>> syslog = 0
>> panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d
>> security = user
>> encrypt passwords = true
>> passdb backend = tdbsam
>> obey pam restrictions = yes
>> unix password sync = yes
>> passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
>> passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n
>>  *Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n\n *password\supdated\ssuccessfully* .
>> pam password change = yes
>> map to guest = bad user
>> usershare allow guests = yes
>>
>> [Fileserver]
>> comment = Fileserver
>> public = yes
>> read only = no
>> writable = yes
>> path = /home/file
>> guest ok = yes
>> browseable = yes
>> create mode = 0777
>> directory mode = 0777
>>
>> Al directorio que estoy compartiendo le di los permisos 755.
>> Que me esta faltando?
>>
>> Saludos y gracias
>>
>
Muchas gracias Raimundo.

Saludos

Re: [OT] A vueltas con las caches L1 y L2

[Felix Perez]

El 31 de julio de 2018, 10:52, Angel Vicente  escribió:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> El Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:18:50 -0400
> Felix Perez  escribió:
>> El 18 de julio de 2018, 03:39, Angel Vicente 
>> escribió:
>> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> > Hash: SHA256
>> >
>> > El Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:55:37 -0400
>> > Juan Lavieri  escribió:
>> >> Hola Angel y demás integrantes de la lista.
>> >> >> Angel, dando algunas vueltas respecto a tu problema encontré lo
>> >> >> siguiente:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/disabling-cpu-caches-936077/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Es exactamente lo contrario a lo que necesitas, pero si se puede
>> >> >> deshabilitar, imagino que se podrán habilitar.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Espero que te sea de utilidad.
>> >> >
>> >> > No he conseguido nada, pero he encontrado en este hilo :
>> >> > https://forums.majorgeeks.com/threads/enable-l2-cache-on-compaq-bios.74660/
>> >> >
>> >> > un comentario que entiendo que dice que es el procesador el que
>> >> > decide si activa o no la cache, no sé con que criterio y tampoco
>> >> > si realmente es así.
>> >> >
>> >> > Otra cosa que he descubierto es que el arranque de Debian
>> >> > reconoce la placa como un laptop Compaq cuando en realidad es
>> >> > una semi torre, no sé si sería indicativo de algo.
>> >>
>> >> ¿Has intentado probar con una distro live a ver si es problema de
>> >> ese procesador en particular o el kernel o la distribución, etc.?
>> >
>> > He probado con Ubuntu, aunque sería "bastante" como Debian, con
>> > Sysrescue que está basada en Gentoo, ambas con el mismo resultado.
>> >
>>
>> ¿Has cambiado de kernel? ¿Con cuáles has probado?
>>
>> Yo probaría con una distribución Live como Manjaro o LinuxMint, ver
>> que sucede y anotar el kernel, si este  te habilitas las caches.
>
> Probado y con los mismos resultados.

Hace muuucho tiempo tuve un problema con un procesador, ya ni me
acuerdo si era intel o amd, habíamos comprado varias procesadores y
tarjetas madres más memorias todos del mismo modelo y marca.  Sucedió
que un procesador no alcanzaba la velocidad de reloj indicada en su
modelo, pudimos probarlo en las otras tarjetas madres y con las otras
memorias.  Al reclamar al proveedor este lo cambió y al probarlo nos
dio la velocidad indicada.

Tiempo después este proveedor nos contacto para indicarnos que el
procesador en cuestión venia mal rotulado que no debía haber indicado
la velocidad marcada en él sino una menor, nos explico que los
procesadores al probarlos en fábrica los que no cumplen con ciertos
parámetros los van descartando y habilitando como modelos inferiores y
luego vendidos a granel.

Me llama la atención que tu modelo lo reconozca como una laptop
compaq, ¿No será que es un modelo capado (disminuido)?

Ahora el tema es a quién reclamar.

Suerte.

>
>>
>> Saludos.
>>
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >> Otra cosa que puedes hacer es escribir directamente a la gente de
>> >> soporte de intel;  tal vez se apiaden de ti y te den alguna
>> >> información.
>> >
>> > Me he registrado primero en el soporte de HP, pero todavía no tengo
>> > el correo de confirmación, no sé porque tarda tanto en llegar.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Saludos
>> >>
>> >> >
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Re: a dh keys question?

[Dan Ritter]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 12:07:53PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> 
> Hi, thanks  with answers.
> 
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2018, Dan Ritter wrote:
> 
> > 
> > You generate a private/public key pair with ssh-keygen, and send
> > the public key over to your destination in advance, so that they
> > can recognize you.
> 
> Okay, I understand.  Meaning that keygen is a part of the ssh client I take
> it?

ssh-keygen is a command that comes along with your SSH client in
Debian (and all other UNIX-like systems that supply OpenSSH).


> > Are you having problems SSHing to all servers that you try, or
> > just to one in particular?
> 
> I am having problems with every server I try, aside from  the one using the
> different port from 21 & 22.
> So, it is the reverse of what you suggest.  I wish I could test another
> server using an alternative port to see  if that works.

That sounds like your DSL company decided to block port 22,
which is somewhere between ridiculous and evil.

(21 is FTP, by the way.)

1. Reboot your DSL modem and/or router just in case.

2. Test that you still can't ssh to server:22

3. Test that you can't connect via ssh to chat.shazow.net (it
will allow anyone on, no credentials)

4. Complain to your DSL company.

-dsr-

Re: quel debian sur un samsung 500T

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail original -
> De: "Bernard Schoenacker" 
> À: "David" 
> Cc: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 18:04:55
> Objet: Re: quel debian sur un samsung 500T
> 
> 
> 
> - Mail original -
> > De: "David" 
> > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> > Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 13:19:02
> > Objet: quel debian sur un samsung 500T
> > 
> > Bonjour,
> > 
> > un ami possède un notebook samsung 500T (model 500T1C)
> > c'est une tablette tactile avec un support-clavier
> > avec windows 8
> > 
> > mais cet ordinateur "rame" trop et est donc inutilisable pour lui.
> > 
> > Que me conseillez-vous d'installer en remplacement de windows 8 ?
> > (pas
> > besoin de dual-boot, il faut juste qu'on puisse utiliser la
> > tablette
> > tactile et le wifi)
> > 
> > D'avance merci,
> > David V
> > 
> > 
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> voci la liste du matériel nécessaire :
> 
> 1 hub usb
> 1 clavier usb
> 1 souris usb
> 1 adaptateur ethernet
> 1 clé usb conteanant l'image iso
> 
> pour l'image iso, il faut choisir une architecture 32bits :
> 
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-9.5.0-i386-xfce.iso
> attention, lors de la configuration il faut installer florence ou
> xvkbd
> 
> avec l'image iso live il est possible de faire un essai non
> destructif
> 
> et également de faire un lspci afin de déterminer quels sont les
> composants
> qui vont pouvoir être supportés par linux
> 
> et s'il faut installer ou compiler le module pour la carte wifi
> 
> le générateur de clé usb (etcher) : https://etcher.io/
> 
> 
> merci
> slt
> bernard
> 
> 
bonjour,

voici une vidéo avec ubuntu et unity :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js_aCnbJzy8

merci

slt
bernard

Re: What's the deal with the mpfr versioning? libmpfr4 vs. libmpfr6

[David Wright]

On Tue 31 Jul 2018 at 10:01:00 (-0400), Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> Funny thing is, this is what the versioning says on those pages:
> >> Package: libmpfr4 (3.1.6-1)
> >> Package: libmpfr6 (4.0.1-1)
> >>
> >> ...ok, that's strange. Even weirder, they are both built from the same
> >> sources: mpfr-4.0.1-1.
> 
> Indeed, I find that odd.

I can't find any evidence for that without being told where to look.

> I suspect that the "3.1.6-1" in the "title" and the "4.0.1-1" in the
> "download from source" refer to different versions of the package
> (normally, those two are identical).
> 
> Not sure how/why this happens.  Maybe the source package has been
> upgraded, but the build of the corresponding binaries is still
> in-progress?
> 
> >> I feel like I'm missing something. For example, what does the
> >> "3.1.6-1" mean in libmpfr4?
> 
> Usually it means "built from the upstream version 3.1.6 with some local
> patches" and the "-1" is a Debian-local sub-version, in case Debian
> builds several different versions of the package from the same upstream
> versions (e.g. because Debian's own patches are modified, a typical
> example being when Debian's security team backports a security patch to
> 3.1.6).

Usually they are, but you can't always rely on it; eg Grub2 had
Debian version numbers 1.x in the days of wheezy. You have to check a
little deeper: that was my point.

> > The numbers in parentheses are the Debian versions of the package.
> > That's how apt would upgrade a package if a bug was fixed within it.
> > They're not related to the upstream version.
> 
> Doesn't explain why one says "Package: libmpfr4 (3.1.6-1)" and the other
> says "[mpfr4_4.0.1-1.dsc]": both "3.1.6-1" and "4.0.1-1" are Debian
> version numbers and they are usually the same.

I'm not sure you're quoting from here.

> > As for the "6", I'm guessing that they chose that because the library
> > version (yes, another versioning sequence) is 6.0.1 as opposed to 4.1.5.
> 
> That's right, this is an "API version", so I guess it means that the
> 4.0.1 upstream code can be used to build both the API version 4 and
> the API version 6.

That seems unlikely to me. I'm not going to bother to download the
source to find out, but I suspect that the 4 in Packages's "Source:
mpfr4" line is spurious, accidentally introduced between lenny and
squeeze. I think that is the only mystery here, and the rest of the
"problem" is built on jumping to false conclusions (or assumptions).

Cheers,
David.

Re: Quel debian sur un samsung 500T + tactile

[andre_debian]

On Tuesday 31 July 2018 13:19:02 David wrote:
> un ami possède un notebook samsung 500T (model 500T1C)
> c'est une tablette tactile avec un support-clavier
> avec windows 8
> mais cet ordinateur "rame" trop et est donc inutilisable pour lui.
> Que me conseillez-vous d'installer en remplacement de windows 8 ? (pas 
> besoin de dual-boot, il faut juste qu'on puisse utiliser la tablette 
> tactile et le wifi)

Est-ce que Linux globalement fonctionne bien en mode tactile ?
J'avais un portable tactile Acer, il fonctionnait bien avec Windows-8, 
mais pas trop avec Debian (bureau Trinity).

Trouver une petite distrib type Slitaz ou Toutou-Linux,
sinon une Debian mini avec un bureau ultra-léger,
mais sans garantie pour le tactile...

Bonne journée,

André

Re: a dh keys question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi, thanks  with answers.

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018, Dan Ritter wrote:



You generate a private/public key pair with ssh-keygen, and send
the public key over to your destination in advance, so that they
can recognize you.


Okay, I understand.  Meaning that keygen is a part of the ssh client I 
take it?



Are you having problems SSHing to all servers that you try, or
just to one in particular?


I am having problems with every server I try, aside from  the one using 
the  different port from 21 & 22.
So, it is the reverse of what you suggest.  I wish I could test another 
server using an alternative port to see  if that works.





Thanks,
Karen

Re: quel debian sur un samsung 500T

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail original -
> De: "David" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 13:19:02
> Objet: quel debian sur un samsung 500T
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> un ami possède un notebook samsung 500T (model 500T1C)
> c'est une tablette tactile avec un support-clavier
> avec windows 8
> 
> mais cet ordinateur "rame" trop et est donc inutilisable pour lui.
> 
> Que me conseillez-vous d'installer en remplacement de windows 8 ?
> (pas
> besoin de dual-boot, il faut juste qu'on puisse utiliser la tablette
> tactile et le wifi)
> 
> D'avance merci,
> David V
> 
> 

bonjour,

voci la liste du matériel nécessaire :

1 hub usb
1 clavier usb
1 souris usb
1 adaptateur ethernet
1 clé usb conteanant l'image iso

pour l'image iso, il faut choisir une architecture 32bits :

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-9.5.0-i386-xfce.iso
attention, lors de la configuration il faut installer florence ou xvkbd

avec l'image iso live il est possible de faire un essai non destructif

et également de faire un lspci afin de déterminer quels sont les composants
qui vont pouvoir être supportés par linux

et s'il faut installer ou compiler le module pour la carte wifi

le générateur de clé usb (etcher) : https://etcher.io/


merci
slt
bernard

Re: a dh keys question?

[Dan Ritter]

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:38:34AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> While the question seems simple, at least to me, the reason behind it is
> complicated.  so I am hoping to focus on the question first.
> During the dh key exchange process, where do the user dh key packets come
> from software wise?

You generate a private/public key pair with ssh-keygen, and send
the public key over to your destination in advance, so that they
can recognize you.

> I have a problem now where each place I try to visit using my ssh client,
> and my sftp one, I am getting a dh key exchange failure.
> using the -v command  is not shedding light on the issue.
> I am using the same client now to reach another  service, but here  we use a
> different port from port 22.
> the error started on the 29th of June, and the company providing my dsl
> service did claim to have a service issue on that day.
> However they do not speak Linux let alone anything else Unusual.
> Thoughts?


Are you having problems SSHing to all servers that you try, or
just to one in particular?

If it's just one, and that one uses a port other than 22, it's
likely that your DSL company started filtering that port on the
29th. 

-dsr-

a dh keys question?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi everyone,
While the question seems simple, at least to me, the reason behind it is 
complicated.  so I am hoping to focus on the question first.
During the dh key exchange process, where do the user dh key packets come 
from software wise?
I have a problem now where each place I try to visit using my ssh client, 
and my sftp one, I am getting a dh key exchange failure.

using the -v command  is not shedding light on the issue.
I am using the same client now to reach another  service, but here  we use 
a different port from port 22.
the error started on the 29th of June, and the company providing my dsl 
service did claim to have a service issue on that day.

However they do not speak Linux let alone anything else Unusual.
Thoughts?

Re: [OT] A vueltas con las caches L1 y L2

[Juan Lavieri]

Hola.

El 31/7/2018 a las 10:52 a.m., Angel Vicente escribió:

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El Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:18:50 -0400
Felix Perez  escribió:

El 18 de julio de 2018, 03:39, Angel Vicente 
escribió:

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El Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:55:37 -0400
Juan Lavieri  escribió:

Hola Angel y demás integrantes de la lista.

Angel, dando algunas vueltas respecto a tu problema encontré lo
siguiente:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/disabling-cpu-caches-936077/

Es exactamente lo contrario a lo que necesitas, pero si se puede
deshabilitar, imagino que se podrán habilitar.

Espero que te sea de utilidad.


No he conseguido nada, pero he encontrado en este hilo :
https://forums.majorgeeks.com/threads/enable-l2-cache-on-compaq-bios.74660/

un comentario que entiendo que dice que es el procesador el que
decide si activa o no la cache, no sé con que criterio y tampoco
si realmente es así.

Otra cosa que he descubierto es que el arranque de Debian
reconoce la placa como un laptop Compaq cuando en realidad es
una semi torre, no sé si sería indicativo de algo.


¿Has intentado probar con una distro live a ver si es problema de
ese procesador en particular o el kernel o la distribución, etc.?


He probado con Ubuntu, aunque sería "bastante" como Debian, con
Sysrescue que está basada en Gentoo, ambas con el mismo resultado.
  


¿Has cambiado de kernel? ¿Con cuáles has probado?

Yo probaría con una distribución Live como Manjaro o LinuxMint, ver
que sucede y anotar el kernel, si este  te habilitas las caches.


Probado y con los mismos resultados.


Angel, a principios de este hilo (1.000.000 de años AC) mencionaste que 
tenías otras máquinas y en ellas si estaba activo.


La pregunta es ¿tienen el mismo procesador? o mejor ¿las placas 
(tarjetas) madre de alguna de ella soporta a este?  Tal vez probando en 
otra placa madre u otro procesador similar en esta, te da una idea de lo 
que sucede.






Saludos.





Otra cosa que puedes hacer es escribir directamente a la gente de
soporte de intel;  tal vez se apiaden de ti y te den alguna
información.


Me he registrado primero en el soporte de HP, pero todavía no tengo
el correo de confirmación, no sé porque tarda tanto en llegar.
  


Saludos
  
  


¡Animo! y Saludos.
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quel debian sur un samsung 500T

[David]

Bonjour,

un ami possède un notebook samsung 500T (model 500T1C)
c'est une tablette tactile avec un support-clavier
avec windows 8

mais cet ordinateur "rame" trop et est donc inutilisable pour lui.

Que me conseillez-vous d'installer en remplacement de windows 8 ? (pas 
besoin de dual-boot, il faut juste qu'on puisse utiliser la tablette 
tactile et le wifi)


D'avance merci,
David V

Re: [OT] A vueltas con las caches L1 y L2

[Angel Vicente]

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Hash: SHA256

El Mon, 30 Jul 2018 16:18:50 -0400
Felix Perez  escribió:
> El 18 de julio de 2018, 03:39, Angel Vicente 
> escribió:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA256
> >
> > El Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:55:37 -0400
> > Juan Lavieri  escribió:  
> >> Hola Angel y demás integrantes de la lista.  
> >> >> Angel, dando algunas vueltas respecto a tu problema encontré lo
> >> >> siguiente:
> >> >>
> >> >> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/disabling-cpu-caches-936077/
> >> >>
> >> >> Es exactamente lo contrario a lo que necesitas, pero si se puede
> >> >> deshabilitar, imagino que se podrán habilitar.
> >> >>
> >> >> Espero que te sea de utilidad.  
> >> >
> >> > No he conseguido nada, pero he encontrado en este hilo :
> >> > https://forums.majorgeeks.com/threads/enable-l2-cache-on-compaq-bios.74660/
> >> >
> >> > un comentario que entiendo que dice que es el procesador el que
> >> > decide si activa o no la cache, no sé con que criterio y tampoco
> >> > si realmente es así.
> >> >
> >> > Otra cosa que he descubierto es que el arranque de Debian
> >> > reconoce la placa como un laptop Compaq cuando en realidad es
> >> > una semi torre, no sé si sería indicativo de algo.  
> >>
> >> ¿Has intentado probar con una distro live a ver si es problema de
> >> ese procesador en particular o el kernel o la distribución, etc.?  
> >
> > He probado con Ubuntu, aunque sería "bastante" como Debian, con
> > Sysrescue que está basada en Gentoo, ambas con el mismo resultado.
> >  
> 
> ¿Has cambiado de kernel? ¿Con cuáles has probado?
> 
> Yo probaría con una distribución Live como Manjaro o LinuxMint, ver
> que sucede y anotar el kernel, si este  te habilitas las caches.

Probado y con los mismos resultados.

> 
> Saludos.
> 
> 
> 
> >>
> >> Otra cosa que puedes hacer es escribir directamente a la gente de
> >> soporte de intel;  tal vez se apiaden de ti y te den alguna
> >> información.  
> >
> > Me he registrado primero en el soporte de HP, pero todavía no tengo
> > el correo de confirmación, no sé porque tarda tanto en llegar.
> >  
> >>
> >> Saludos
> >>  
> >> >  
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Re: Videos en Chromium

[Marcelo Eduardo Giordano]

El 30/07/18 a las 09:00, Javier ArgentinaBBAR escribió:

El dom., 29 jul. 2018 a las 19:30, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano
() escribió:

Me puse a trabajar en este tema y no encontré el archivo
/etc/apt/preferences el que encontré es preferences.d.

Si nunca usaste apt-pinning, es lógico que no tengas el archivo
/etc/apt/preferences.
Debes crearlo.


Es lo mismo?

Sí y no.
/etc/apt/preferences viene por compatibilidad anterior. En GNU/Linux
existe un mandamiento: todo lo viejo debe funcionar en lo nuevo. La
actualización del sistema base no debe volver obsoleto programas
antiguos.
/etc/apt/preferences es un archivo único de configuración de
preferencias. (Lo tradicional)
/etc/apt/preferencies.d es un directorio que puede contener archivos
fragmentados de configuración. (La nueva "moda")

Esto permite que programas de terceros pueda hacer modificaciones en
sus archivos propios, sin tocar los ajenos, y todo se mantenga
ordenado.

¿Has instalado Google Chrome?
Si te fijas, en /etc/apt/sources.list.d tienes un archivo específico
google-chrome con el repositorio de Google, que no está en
/etc/sources.list, pero cumple exactamente la misma sintaxis y
función.

Hay muchas cosas que de a poco están mutando a esta forma. De "un
archivos de configuración grande" mutan a "un directorio donde hay
muchos archivos de configuración chiquitos".

man apt_preferences



Otra pregunta. yo no quiero usar el último libreoffice, prefiero
usar uno mas viejo y que esté testeado. Con esa configuración no se va a
instalar el último libreoffice con apt upgrade no?

Justamente, apt-pinning sirve para controlar eso.
La configuración que te envié en su momento, prevé poner una prioridad
a cada repositorio.
La prioridad está fijada para stretch de base, que posee el mayor
valor Pin-priority.
Sólo busca en los repositorios de menor valor si:
1 - Necesita un paquete recomendado o sugerido que no está en el
repositorio de base.
2 - Explícitamente le indicas que instale desde el otro repositorio,
como por ejemplo
# apt install libreoficce -t stretch-backports



Espero haber sido explícito


Sí. Bien claro.
Si querés seguir tocando, podés crear el archivo /etc/apt/apt.conf:

#
# /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz
# /etc/apt/apt.conf

APT
{
   Default-Release "stretch";
   Install-Recommends "false";
   Install-Suggests "false";
   Clean-Installed "true";
   Get
   {
  Assume-Yes "false";
  Fix-Broken "true";
  Fix-Missing "true";
  Show-Upgraded "true";
  Purge "true";
  Clean "always";
   };
};

Acquire
{
   Languages "environment";
   AllowInsecureRepositories "true";
};

###

Esto te da más control sobre lo que apt hace o deja de hacer.

man apt.conf

JAP


gracias amigo

Re: What's the deal with the mpfr versioning? libmpfr4 vs. libmpfr6

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Funny thing is, this is what the versioning says on those pages:
>> Package: libmpfr4 (3.1.6-1)
>> Package: libmpfr6 (4.0.1-1)
>>
>> ...ok, that's strange. Even weirder, they are both built from the same
>> sources: mpfr-4.0.1-1.

Indeed, I find that odd.

I suspect that the "3.1.6-1" in the "title" and the "4.0.1-1" in the
"download from source" refer to different versions of the package
(normally, those two are identical).

Not sure how/why this happens.  Maybe the source package has been
upgraded, but the build of the corresponding binaries is still
in-progress?

>> I feel like I'm missing something. For example, what does the
>> "3.1.6-1" mean in libmpfr4?

Usually it means "built from the upstream version 3.1.6 with some local
patches" and the "-1" is a Debian-local sub-version, in case Debian
builds several different versions of the package from the same upstream
versions (e.g. because Debian's own patches are modified, a typical
example being when Debian's security team backports a security patch to
3.1.6).

> The numbers in parentheses are the Debian versions of the package.
> That's how apt would upgrade a package if a bug was fixed within it.
> They're not related to the upstream version.

Doesn't explain why one says "Package: libmpfr4 (3.1.6-1)" and the other
says "[mpfr4_4.0.1-1.dsc]": both "3.1.6-1" and "4.0.1-1" are Debian
version numbers and they are usually the same.

> As for the "6", I'm guessing that they chose that because the library
> version (yes, another versioning sequence) is 6.0.1 as opposed to 4.1.5.

That's right, this is an "API version", so I guess it means that the
4.0.1 upstream code can be used to build both the API version 4 and
the API version 6.


Stefan

Re: Linux Cinamon bug avec les médias amovibles ..suite

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail original -
> De: "Bernard Schoenacker" 
> À: cont...@billard-francois-marie.eu
> Cc: "Liste Debian" 
> Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 14:21:11
> Objet: Re: Linux Cinamon bug avec les médias amovibles ..suite
> 
> 
> 
> - Mail original -
> > De: "contact" 
> > À: "Liste Debian" 
> > Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 14:04:59
> > Objet: Linux Cinamon bug avec les médias amovibles ..suite
> > 
> > Bonjour
> > 
> > j'utilise l’environnement Cinamon sous linux stretch sans problèmes
> > en
> > général, sauf lors de l'utilisation de clefs usb, carte SD etc..
> > 
> > Lors du montage le bureau se réinitialise et je perds l'usage des
> > icônes, ce qui m'oblige à quitter la session via le menu.
> > 
> > Puis de retour dans la session tout est en ordre sans problèmes.
> > 
> > Le bug n’apparaît qu'au montage du média amovible.
> > 
> > Merci
> > 
> > --
> > François-Marie BILLARD
> > 
> > 
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> serait il possible de vérifier les versions de gvfs ?
> 
> merci
> slt
> bernard
> 
bonjour,

pour gvfs :

 dpkg -l |awk '/gvfs/ {print $1" "$2" "$3}'
ii gvfs:amd64 1.36.2-1
ii gvfs-backends 1.36.2-1
ii gvfs-bin 1.36.2-1
ii gvfs-common 1.36.2-1
ii gvfs-daemons 1.36.2-1
ii gvfs-fuse 1.36.2-1
ii gvfs-libs:amd64 1.36.2-1
ii xmms2-plugin-gvfs 0.8+dfsg-18.1+b6


dpkg -l |awk '/fuse/ {print $1" "$2" "$3}'
ii enfuse 4.2-4
ii exfat-fuse 1.2.8-1
ii fuse 2.9.8-1
ii gvfs-fuse 1.36.2-1
ii ifuse 1.1.3-0.1
ii libfuse2:amd64 2.9.8-1
ii python3-defusedxml 0.5.0-1
ii python3-fuse 2:0.3.0-1+b1
ii python3-fusepy 2.0.4-1


 dpkg -l |awk '/libntfs/ {print $1" "$2" "$3}'
ii libntfs-3g88 1:2017.3.23-2
ii libntfs-3g881 1:2017.3.23AR.1-1

apt policy gvfs-fuse
gvfs-fuse:
  Installé : 1.36.2-1
  Candidat : 1.36.2-1
 Table de version :
 *** 1.36.2-1 500
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian sid/main amd64 Packages
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
500 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1.30.4-1 500
500 http://debian.proxad.net/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages

autrement pourquoi ne pas essayer un autre environnement gtk (xfce) ?


merci
slt
bernard

Re: Re : update alternative et lien nvidia

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail original -
> De: "nicolas patrois" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 14:07:23
> Objet: Re : update alternative et lien nvidia
> 
> Le 31/07/2018 13:33:00, contact a écrit :
> > Bonjour Benard
> 
> > cela m'est arrivé maintes fois en voulant utiliser ma sortie vidéo
> > externe, sans succès.
> 
> > Et la solution est de désinstaller/purger totalement tout ce qui
> > concerne les drivers Nvidia depuis la console, puis redémarrer en
> > général cela permet de revenir à la situation précédente.
> 
> > Dans tous les cas tu vas finir par récupérer l'ensemble.
> 
> Quand j’ai voulu passer à la version debianisée du pilote de nVidia,
> j’ai dû non seulement désinstaller le pilote officiel mais en plus
> supprimer à la main une bibliothèque libGLmachinchose avant de
> réinstaller le pilote debianisé.
> 
> nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial
> --
> RÉALISME
> 
> M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des
> humains ? Un cerveau plus gros ?
> P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait...
> 
> 
bonjour,

merci pour m'avoir éclairé ma lanterne

slt
bernard

Re: Linux Cinamon bug avec les médias amovibles ..suite

[Bernard Schoenacker]

- Mail original -
> De: "contact" 
> À: "Liste Debian" 
> Envoyé: Mardi 31 Juillet 2018 14:04:59
> Objet: Linux Cinamon bug avec les médias amovibles ..suite
> 
> Bonjour
> 
> j'utilise l’environnement Cinamon sous linux stretch sans problèmes
> en
> général, sauf lors de l'utilisation de clefs usb, carte SD etc..
> 
> Lors du montage le bureau se réinitialise et je perds l'usage des
> icônes, ce qui m'oblige à quitter la session via le menu.
> 
> Puis de retour dans la session tout est en ordre sans problèmes.
> 
> Le bug n’apparaît qu'au montage du média amovible.
> 
> Merci
> 
> --
> François-Marie BILLARD
> 
> 

bonjour,

serait il possible de vérifier les versions de gvfs ?

merci
slt
bernard

Re : update alternative et lien nvidia

[nicolas . patrois]

Le 31/07/2018 13:33:00, contact a écrit :
> Bonjour Benard

> cela m'est arrivé maintes fois en voulant utiliser ma sortie vidéo 
> externe, sans succès.

> Et la solution est de désinstaller/purger totalement tout ce qui 
> concerne les drivers Nvidia depuis la console, puis redémarrer en 
> général cela permet de revenir à la situation précédente.

> Dans tous les cas tu vas finir par récupérer l'ensemble.

Quand j’ai voulu passer à la version debianisée du pilote de nVidia, j’ai dû 
non seulement désinstaller le pilote officiel mais en plus supprimer à la main 
une bibliothèque libGLmachinchose avant de réinstaller le pilote debianisé.

nicolas patrois : pts noir asocial
-- 
RÉALISME

M : Qu'est-ce qu'il nous faudrait pour qu'on nous considère comme des humains ? 
Un cerveau plus gros ?
P : Non... Une carte bleue suffirait...

Linux Cinamon bug avec les médias amovibles ..suite

[contact]

Bonjour

j'utilise l’environnement Cinamon sous linux stretch sans problèmes en 
général, sauf lors de l'utilisation de clefs usb, carte SD etc..


Lors du montage le bureau se réinitialise et je perds l'usage des 
icônes, ce qui m'oblige à quitter la session via le menu.


Puis de retour dans la session tout est en ordre sans problèmes.

Le bug n’apparaît qu'au montage du média amovible.

Merci

--
François-Marie BILLARD

Re: update alternative et lien nvidia

[contact]

Bonjour Benard

cela m'est arrivé maintes fois en voulant utiliser ma sortie vidéo 
externe, sans succès.


Et la solution est de désinstaller/purger totalement tout ce qui 
concerne les drivers Nvidia depuis la console, puis redémarrer en 
général cela permet de revenir à la situation précédente.


Dans tous les cas tu vas finir par récupérer l'ensemble.

Cordialement

François-Marie BILLARD

Le 31/07/2018 à 11:38, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

bonjour,

suite à une mise à jour de debian je n'ai plus
d'affichage pour x11

la seule chose que j'ai pu trouver c'est un lien brisé
pour le serveur nvidia qui est déclaré dans update-alternatives


comment rétablir la situation ?

et navré de ne pas pouvoir en dire plus car je n'ai pas la
  machine sous la main

attention, j'utilise une testing


peut être reste t-il un espoir de sauver les meubles :

https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=3953.0

merci
slt
bernard

Re: update alternative et lien nvidia

[Haricophile]

Le Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:38:07 +0200 (CEST),
Bernard Schoenacker  a écrit :

> bonjour,
> 
> suite à une mise à jour de debian je n'ai plus
> d'affichage pour x11
> 
> la seule chose que j'ai pu trouver c'est un lien brisé
> pour le serveur nvidia qui est déclaré dans update-alternatives
> 
> 
> comment rétablir la situation ?
> 
> et navré de ne pas pouvoir en dire plus car je n'ai pas la
>  machine sous la main
> 
> attention, j'utilise une testing
> 
> 
> peut être reste t-il un espoir de sauver les meubles :
> 
> https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=3953.0
> 
> merci
> slt
> bernard
> 

Se connecter en tty ou en mode
recovery (si aucun affichage utilisable).

Monter le réseau s'il ne l'est pas (bureau non lancé).

Désinstaller tout ce qui concerne Nvidia

Réinstaller proprement Nouveau ou Nvidia avec les paquets Debian (pour
avoir Update-Alternatives).

Redémarer en mode normal.

- Nvidia n'aime pas les résidus d'installation, donc quand on
utilise une méthode, bien tout désinstaller proprement avant de
réinstaller autrement.

- Pour les mises a jour de version majeures, le faire dans un terminal
  tty et pas dans le bureau, ça limite le risque de plantage en cours
  d'install.

- Pour les mises a jour majeures, désinstaller ce qui est installé hors
  distribution Debian, comme le binaire de Nvidia qui est assez
  critique, ça limite aussi les problèmes potentiels.

En tout cas je ne vois pas de raison de désespérer, ne serait-ce qu'en
réinstallant Nouveau provisoirement pour faciliter la manœuvre. Mais
avec un peu de ligne de commande...

Re: Set the MTU on the interface

[Michael Stone]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 03:55:52PM +0300, Алексей wrote:

I can't set the MTU in the eth0 configuration. I can probably write a pre-up
directive in the configuraion of the first vlan interface however I'm not sure
if this is correct way. Probably someone can advice better one?


You can do it with a pre-up to set the mtu of the base device. Once you 
set the base device to 9000 or whatever, you'll want to set the mtu on 
all of the other devices to the original value.


Mike Stone

Re[2]: Set the MTU on the interface

[Алексей]

Hi.

Here it is:

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth0
#auto eth1
#auto eth2
auto eth3

auto vlan8
iface vlan8 inet static
address 10.255.8.1
netmask 255.255.255.252
vlan-raw-device eth0

auto vlan5
iface vlan5 inet static
address 10.255.5.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
vlan-raw-device eth0

auto vlan4
iface vlan4 inet static
address 10.255.4.1
netmask 255.255.255.0
vlan-raw-device eth3
###


30 июля 2018, 17:14:10, от "Dan Ritter" :

On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 03:55:52PM +0300, Алексей wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I need an advice about how can I set the MTU on the interface which is not in 
> fact configured. So to explain in more detail:
> 
> I have a debian box acting as a router and it has interface let's say eth0. 
> Eth0 itself doesn't have any IP configuration, all IP configuration and 
> routing is done on vlan interfaces bound to eth0. I need to route jumbo 
> frames so I need to set the MTU on vlan interfaces to 9000 and consequently I 
> need to set MTU to 9000 on the physical eth0 also. However, as i have only 
> one line for eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces:
> 
> auto eth0
> 
> I can't set the MTU in the eth0 configuration. I can probably write a pre-up 
> directive in the configuraion of the first vlan interface however I'm not 
> sure if this is correct way. Probably someone can advice better one?
> 

Please show us your entire /etc/network/interfaces.

-dsr-

update alternative et lien nvidia

[Bernard Schoenacker]

bonjour,

suite à une mise à jour de debian je n'ai plus
d'affichage pour x11

la seule chose que j'ai pu trouver c'est un lien brisé
pour le serveur nvidia qui est déclaré dans update-alternatives


comment rétablir la situation ?

et navré de ne pas pouvoir en dire plus car je n'ai pas la
 machine sous la main

attention, j'utilise une testing


peut être reste t-il un espoir de sauver les meubles :

https://forum.siduction.org/index.php?topic=3953.0

merci
slt
bernard

Re: Question about /proc/loadavg

[Martin Drescher]

[...]
> Hi Martin,
> 
> can you show real data from /proc/loadavg output? Which column do you
> compare?

I' talking about the 1/5/15 minute numbers.

> I wouldn't worry about difference in /proc/loadavg because everything is
> different between RHEL/CentOS 6 and Debian 9 - kernel, Apache version,
> different patches, etc. For example if I/O is faster on Debian 9 then
> it's normal to have higher CPU load on the server, if I understood you
> correctly.

I'm aware there are differences. But both Apache HTTP versions (2.2 and 2.4, 
both in prefork mode) are running at an almost identical configuration, same 
content, same (virtual) hardware. In top(1) I can see, user, system, idle and 
wait are quite equal to each other. What I'm curious about is, how can this 
loadavg numbers then be _that_ different.

> Kind regards
> Georgi

Thanks, Martin




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Re: Question about /proc/loadavg

[Georgi Naplatanov]

On 07/31/2018 10:31 AM, Martin Drescher wrote:
> Hi ML members,
> 
> I have a question about how the numbers compute which I get from 
> /proc/loadavg.
> I'm running a bunch of HTTP servers, most of them running a RHEL 6, which is 
> a kernel version 2.6. All patches applied, so that Meltdown and Spectre stuff 
> should be included. Some of the servers where migrated to a Debian 9 with a 
> kernel version 4.9, also all patches applied. What I see is a tremendous 
> difference in /proc/loadavg. It is like 3 ~ 4 in kernel 2.6 and like 15 ~ 20 
> in 4.9. It is not a real problem, that Debian is running well.
> But does someone has a clue, what makes that difference?

Hi Martin,

can you show real data from /proc/loadavg output? Which column do you
compare?

I wouldn't worry about difference in /proc/loadavg because everything is
different between RHEL/CentOS 6 and Debian 9 - kernel, Apache version,
different patches, etc. For example if I/O is faster on Debian 9 then
it's normal to have higher CPU load on the server, if I understood you
correctly.

Kind regards
Georgi

Question about /proc/loadavg

[Martin Drescher]

Hi ML members,

I have a question about how the numbers compute which I get from /proc/loadavg.
I'm running a bunch of HTTP servers, most of them running a RHEL 6, which is a 
kernel version 2.6. All patches applied, so that Meltdown and Spectre stuff 
should be included. Some of the servers where migrated to a Debian 9 with a 
kernel version 4.9, also all patches applied. What I see is a tremendous 
difference in /proc/loadavg. It is like 3 ~ 4 in kernel 2.6 and like 15 ~ 20 in 
4.9. It is not a real problem, that Debian is running well.
But does someone has a clue, what makes that difference?



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su $path is veranderd..

[Gijs Hillenius]

Er is iets omgevallen op mijn Debian SID workstation. De apt update && apt 
upgrade van gistermorgen:

dpkg: warning: 'ldconfig' not found in PATH or not executable
dpkg: warning: 'start-stop-daemon' not found in PATH or not executable
dpkg: error: 2 expected programs not found in PATH or not executable
Note: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin

su zit in util-linux, en dat was de dag ervoor (zondag) vernieuwd.

Nu kan ik sudo -s doen en dan geeft PATH wel de juiste
toegangsmogelijkheden. Zo kan ik in ieder geval mijn update fix regelen,
anders zit ik hier maar te zenuwen in plaats van te werken.

Ik heb het als bug gerapporteerd:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=904988

maar in de tussentijd: zou ik gewoon moeten herstarten? Of juist niet!?