Re: GIMP and gif files

[Rudy Gevaert]

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 01:36:12AM +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 04:50:37PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
> > Maybe for you.  As I posted the last time this came up, there are
> > still uses.
> 
> I'm curious now; what use is an uncompressed gif file?

So you can view it anyhow... but it is not compressed :)

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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Alan Shutko]

Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm curious now; what use is an uncompressed gif file?

Animated pics with older browsers, for one.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Rob Weir]

On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 04:50:37PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 21:39, Alan Shutko wrote:
> >
> >> LZW is patent-encumbered.  GIFs do not need to be compressed.
> >
> > And loose all appeal instantly
> 
> Maybe for you.  As I posted the last time this came up, there are
> still uses.

I'm curious now; what use is an uncompressed gif file?

-rob


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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Paul 'Baloo' Johnson]

On Fri, 10 May 2002, Jim Lynch wrote:

> Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

http://packages.debian.org/stable/graphics/gimp1.1-nonfree.html

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Re: GIMP and gif files

[John Hasler]

Carl Fink writes:
> Okay, technically it's LZW that's patented, but even I, the owner of
> nitpicking.com, didn't want to bother explaining in that level of detail.

It isn't an irrelevant detail.  GIF's don't have to be compressed.
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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Carl Fink]

On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 03:39:53PM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote:
> Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > GIF is a patented format.  
> 
> No, it isn't.

Okay, technically it's LZW that's patented, but even I, the owner of
nitpicking.com, didn't want to bother explaining in that level of detail.
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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Alan Shutko]

Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 21:39, Alan Shutko wrote:
>
>> LZW is patent-encumbered.  GIFs do not need to be compressed.
>
> And loose all appeal instantly

Maybe for you.  As I posted the last time this came up, there are
still uses.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Mario Vukelic]

On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 21:39, Alan Shutko wrote:

> LZW is patent-encumbered.  GIFs do not need to be compressed.

And loose all appeal instantly
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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Alan Shutko]

Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> GIF is a patented format.  

No, it isn't.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Alan Shutko]

Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> gifs are patent encumbered

LZW is patent-encumbered.  GIFs do not need to be compressed.

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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Chad Walstrom]

Jim Lynch wrote:
> Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

apt-get install gimp1.2-nonfree


Package: gimp1.2-nonfree
Priority: optional
Section: non-free/graphics
Installed-Size: 57
Maintainer: Ben Gertzfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Source: gimp1.2
Version: 1.2.3-2
Replaces: gimp1.1-nonfree
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.4-4), libgimp1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libglib1.2 (>= 
1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 1.2.10-4), xlibs (>> 4.1.0)
Conflicts: gimp1.1-nonfree
Filename: pool/non-free/g/gimp1.2/gimp1.2-nonfree_1.2.3-2_i386.deb
Size: 23452
MD5sum: e397ad2ee228e1029d0ff183b2ffa456
Description: GIF support for the GNU Image Manipulation Program
 This package includes GIF support for The GNU Image Manipulation
 Program. These files are not freely available; their use is
 disallowed by the UNISYS patent on LZW compression.
 .
 Use at your own legal risk.
Enhances: gimp1.2

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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Andrey Vlassov]

 
No it is linux community doesn't support gif format because of it patent
for compression. But you can recompile GIMP with support for gif without
any problem.
Andrey
Jim Lynch wrote:
Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files
any longer?
Thanks,
Jim.
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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Carl Fink]

On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:34:23PM -0400, Jim Lynch wrote:

> Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

GIF is a patented format.  It can be (and is) argued that supporting
it without paying patent license fees is illegal.  Therefore no
"free" (libre) software collection can support it. You can download a
GIF support module for GIMP at your own risk from nonfree (the last
time I looked, anyway, which was a fair time ago).
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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Colin Watson]

On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 01:34:23PM -0400, Jim Lynch wrote:
> Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

Have you installed the gimp1.2-nonfree package?

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Re: GIMP and gif files

[Mario Vukelic]

On Fri, 2002-05-10 at 19:34, Jim Lynch wrote:
> Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

apt-get install gimp1.2-nonfree

gifs are patent encumbered
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GIMP and gif files

[Jim Lynch]

Is it just Debian or is GIMP not supporting gif files any longer?

Thanks,
Jim.


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