Re: New Etch install - IP address question
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:46:50 -0500 Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrei, it seems enough people do an install and have this problem that the answer has become know to the debian-user list. Now I know very little about zeroconf but it seems to me that it would be better to _not_ have it installed and allow those folks who need it to install it then to have newbies not have proper networking when they finish an install. Opinions? cheers, Kev avahi-daemon recommends libnss-mdns libnss-mdns recommends zeroconf The link is pretty weak, but it still gets installed on a lot of systems, because aptitude installs recommends by default. Maybe it (zeroconf) should be installed disabled? Regards, Andrei In my case it was dselect that pulled it in, since that also installs recommends by default. Installing it disabled would be OK, or changing it to suggestsI'm not sure how important zeroconf is for the overall user base. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Etch install - IP address question
Andrei Popescu wrote: avahi-daemon recommends libnss-mdns libnss-mdns recommends zeroconf The link is pretty weak, but it still gets installed on a lot of systems, because aptitude installs recommends by default. Although thankfully recommends are ignored on initial installs. The recommends has been removed in the avahi-daemon in unstable, it's only blocked from reaching testing by a missing build on alpha so should go in soon. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
New Etch install - IP address question
Just installed Etch from the RC1 net install CD. Did standard install, updated everything to the latest etch packages from the Debian repository, and then installed xorg + kde. Everything *works fine*, but something is different about the network configuration that I don't understand, and hoping someone can explain what I'm seeing. I didn't change anything in the network configuration - just left it as set up by default. I have a simple LAN behind a router that assigns IP addresses with DHCP. I'm using 192.168.2.X as the local subnet, so normally a system on the LAN will get an IP address such as 192.168.2.155 or 192.168.2.156 etc. But on this new install of etch, when I run ifconfig I'm getting this: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:20:F3:7A:03 inet addr:169.254.128.152 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::213:20ff:fef3:7a03/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:583 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:433 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:276931 (270.4 KiB) TX bytes:46680 (45.5 KiB) Note the strange IP address. The leases file in /var/lib/dhcp3 does show that the IP address assigned is in the expected range (192.168.2.199), and I can ping that IP from other systems etc. Again, everything looks and works normally excecpt for the strange IP address. Just hoping someone can explain or provide a link to some information - thanks...(maybe this is related to IPv6 ?) Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Etch install - IP address question
On Friday, 26.01.2007 at 11:08 -0500, Tom Pfeifer wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /sbin/ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:13:20:F3:7A:03 inet addr:169.254.128.152 Bcast:169.254.255.255 Mask:255.255.0.0 inet6 addr: fe80::213:20ff:fef3:7a03/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:583 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:433 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:276931 (270.4 KiB) TX bytes:46680 (45.5 KiB) That's very strange: the 169.254.x.x addresses I've seen in Windows: a Windows PC will give itself an address in that range if it has no hardcoded IP address and can't find the DHCP server. Never seen it appear on *nix before, though... Dave. -- Please don't CC me on list messages! ... Dave Ewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] All email from me is now digitally signed, key from http://www.sungate.co.uk/ Fingerprint: AEC5 9360 0A35 7F66 66E9 82E4 9E10 6769 CD28 DA92 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New Etch install - IP address question
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:08:45 -0500 Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, everything looks and works normally excecpt for the strange IP address. Just hoping someone can explain or provide a link to some information - thanks...(maybe this is related to IPv6 ?) These addresses are usually assigned by the zeroconf package. You can (should) purge that. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Etch install - IP address question
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:08:45 -0500 Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, everything looks and works normally excecpt for the strange IP address. Just hoping someone can explain or provide a link to some information - thanks...(maybe this is related to IPv6 ?) These addresses are usually assigned by the zeroconf package. You can (should) purge that. Regards, Andrei Yes, that was it - thanks. zeroconf can also be disabled (as a test) in /etc/default/zeroconf The other symptom of this is the output of route. It will have a link-local entry - which will show as 169.254.0.0 with route -n Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New Etch install - IP address question
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:50:46PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:08:45 -0500 Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, everything looks and works normally excecpt for the strange IP address. Just hoping someone can explain or provide a link to some information - thanks...(maybe this is related to IPv6 ?) These addresses are usually assigned by the zeroconf package. You can (should) purge that. Regards, Hi Andrei, it seems enough people do an install and have this problem that the answer has become know to the debian-user list. Now I know very little about zeroconf but it seems to me that it would be better to _not_ have it installed and allow those folks who need it to install it then to have newbies not have proper networking when they finish an install. Opinions? cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: New Etch install - IP address question
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:46:50 -0500 Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:50:46PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:08:45 -0500 Tom Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, everything looks and works normally excecpt for the strange IP address. Just hoping someone can explain or provide a link to some information - thanks...(maybe this is related to IPv6 ?) These addresses are usually assigned by the zeroconf package. You can (should) purge that. Regards, Hi Andrei, it seems enough people do an install and have this problem that the answer has become know to the debian-user list. Now I know very little about zeroconf but it seems to me that it would be better to _not_ have it installed and allow those folks who need it to install it then to have newbies not have proper networking when they finish an install. Opinions? cheers, Kev avahi-daemon recommends libnss-mdns libnss-mdns recommends zeroconf The link is pretty weak, but it still gets installed on a lot of systems, because aptitude installs recommends by default. Maybe it (zeroconf) should be installed disabled? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
