Re: Exim... can't get outgoing mail off my machine
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 07:13:45AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:05:56PM -0700, Seth R Arnold wrote: > > > Well, the line number that I pointed at tells how to make exim point at a > > smarthost. It looked like the smartuser director might be able to do it, but > > it looked more like whatever was near line 11900 would do it better. :) > > I'm concerned that it wouldn't even get to the smarthost - it would > think "this is a local address, I should be able to deliver it" and then > find it can't and bounce before ever trying a smarthost. D'oh! Upon looking again, I think you are right. Good thing the original poster fixed his problem, huh? :) > > detail, and yet .. even though I have read them through completely a few > > times, I still feel overwhelmed by the sheer amount of data they contain. It > > has to be one of the few programs well documented. :) > > I find the trick is to remember the big picture and look up those > specifics that aren't memorable. Keeping vi's '/' handy helps too. :) -- Seth Arnold | http://www.willamette.edu/~sarnold/ Hate spam? See http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ for help Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Re: Exim... can't get outgoing mail off my machine
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 10:05:56PM -0700, Seth R Arnold wrote: > Well, the line number that I pointed at tells how to make exim point at a > smarthost. It looked like the smartuser director might be able to do it, but > it looked more like whatever was near line 11900 would do it better. :) I'm concerned that it wouldn't even get to the smarthost - it would think "this is a local address, I should be able to deliver it" and then find it can't and bounce before ever trying a smarthost. > detail, and yet .. even though I have read them through completely a few > times, I still feel overwhelmed by the sheer amount of data they contain. It > has to be one of the few programs well documented. :) I find the trick is to remember the big picture and look up those specifics that aren't memorable. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgp2gug9NQZFu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Exim... can't get outgoing mail off my machine
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 06:03:09AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: >On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:49:21PM -0700, Seth R Arnold wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 04:51:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > Sorry, but I cannot figure out how to get mail to other people on our LAN >> > using exim. Those I send are booted back saying they don't exist on my >> > machine. Mail should go to a server, but it treats all with the same >> > domain >> > as being on my machine. Have gone through the manual but I guess I'm >> > blind. > >> Kenward, check out the /usr/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz file, near line 11900 for >> some information on setting up a smarthost thingy. > >I don't think that will help if the problem is that exim thinks that it >handles all mail for his domain. Most MTAs implement a luser_relay >option which allows one to specify a host to throw unknown local users >to. In exim this appears to be a smartuser director, and is documented >in the manual. [...] Mark, Thanks for the note. I ultimately went back into eximconfig and realized that a better choice would be a satellite system, and played with the settings. What I wound up with seems to fit what you describe. So far (with no one responding to test msgs. this late at night :) it seems to be working (replies don't get bounced back to me with delivery failures). Kenward >> (Anyone else think exim's docs might be a bit too big? :) > >The main problem is knowing what to look for rather than anything else - >it's not very well indexed and doesn't cater to people using different >terminology so well. fully agree with this
Re: Exim... can't get outgoing mail off my machine
On Wed, Sep 29, 1999 at 06:03:09AM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:49:21PM -0700, Seth R Arnold wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 04:51:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Sorry, but I cannot figure out how to get mail to other people on our LAN > > > using exim. Those I send are booted back saying they don't exist on my > > > machine. Mail should go to a server, but it treats all with the same > > > domain > > > as being on my machine. Have gone through the manual but I guess I'm > > > blind. > > > Kenward, check out the /usr/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz file, near line 11900 for > > some information on setting up a smarthost thingy. > > I don't think that will help if the problem is that exim thinks that it > handles all mail for his domain. Most MTAs implement a luser_relay > option which allows one to specify a host to throw unknown local users > to. In exim this appears to be a smartuser director, and is documented > in the manual. Well, the line number that I pointed at tells how to make exim point at a smarthost. It looked like the smartuser director might be able to do it, but it looked more like whatever was near line 11900 would do it better. :) > Try adding after the localuser director in your exim.conf: > > startuser: >driver = domainlist >transport = remote_smtp >route_list = "* mail.relay.for.your.site bydns_a" > > (Completely untested and assuming a fairly standard Debian exim > configuration). The other option is to use a fake name or your hostname > internally and use rewriting to make sure any addresses which make it > off your system are valid. > > > (Anyone else think exim's docs might be a bit too big? :) > > The main problem is knowing what to look for rather than anything else - > it's not very well indexed and doesn't cater to people using different > terminology so well. Hehhe. In the exim docs, EVERY SINGLE THING is explained in wonderful detail, and yet .. even though I have read them through completely a few times, I still feel overwhelmed by the sheer amount of data they contain. It has to be one of the few programs well documented. :) -- Seth Arnold | http://www.willamette.edu/~sarnold/ Hate spam? See http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ for help Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
Re: Exim... can't get outgoing mail off my machine
On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 07:49:21PM -0700, Seth R Arnold wrote: > On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 04:51:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sorry, but I cannot figure out how to get mail to other people on our LAN > > using exim. Those I send are booted back saying they don't exist on my > > machine. Mail should go to a server, but it treats all with the same domain > > as being on my machine. Have gone through the manual but I guess I'm blind. > Kenward, check out the /usr/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz file, near line 11900 for > some information on setting up a smarthost thingy. I don't think that will help if the problem is that exim thinks that it handles all mail for his domain. Most MTAs implement a luser_relay option which allows one to specify a host to throw unknown local users to. In exim this appears to be a smartuser director, and is documented in the manual. Try adding after the localuser director in your exim.conf: startuser: driver = domainlist transport = remote_smtp route_list = "* mail.relay.for.your.site bydns_a" (Completely untested and assuming a fairly standard Debian exim configuration). The other option is to use a fake name or your hostname internally and use rewriting to make sure any addresses which make it off your system are valid. > (Anyone else think exim's docs might be a bit too big? :) The main problem is knowing what to look for rather than anything else - it's not very well indexed and doesn't cater to people using different terminology so well. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpoW1WRPhQuh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Exim... can't get outgoing mail off my machine
Kenward, check out the /usr/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz file, near line 11900 for some information on setting up a smarthost thingy. (Anyone else think exim's docs might be a bit too big? :) On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 04:51:57PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry, but I cannot figure out how to get mail to other people on our LAN > using exim. Those I send are booted back saying they don't exist on my > machine. Mail should go to a server, but it treats all with the same domain > as being on my machine. Have gone through the manual but I guess I'm blind. > > Can someone kindly point out my blunder? > > Kenward > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < /dev/null -- Seth Arnold | http://www.willamette.edu/~sarnold/ Hate spam? See http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ for help Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
