Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
I had similar problem when upgrading from lenny to testing. First pull newer kernel image, 2.6.30, if I recall correctly (but don't pull 2.6.32-x yet, cause depends on new udev). Reboot. Then pull new udev, and reboot again. Now you can pull newest kernel. Hopefully if want to upgrade from testing to sid, then you won't have o much trouble, at least I didn't had. For me sid is stable enough, and I'm not having mercy to my laptop, running BOINC projects 24/7, with CPU temp around 90°, but it is just me... :) in fact it is behaving more stable than lenny ever had, even testing wasn't too stable in my case. 2010/6/25 Mark Allums : > On 6/24/2010 5:49 PM, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: >> >> Hi, Mark: >>> >>> I would retain the Lenny security update line in sources.list (for luck) >>> until Squeeze is released as Stable, and start with safe-upgrade. >> >> That's of little to no value since "security" will do nothing for packages >> you >> already have a higher version installed due to you going for Squeeze (it >> shouldn't hurt, either, so go as you please). > > > > The point is, there are a few things that aren't higher versions. A thing > or two. > > (That will surely change in the run up to release.) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject > of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c2482f9.1050...@allums.com > > -- darkestkhan -- jid: darkestk...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimvpk5ahpop4db7jkmelxzp-41ecqym5eet0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 6/24/2010 5:49 PM, Jesús M. Navarro wrote: Hi, Mark: I would retain the Lenny security update line in sources.list (for luck) until Squeeze is released as Stable, and start with safe-upgrade. That's of little to no value since "security" will do nothing for packages you already have a higher version installed due to you going for Squeeze (it shouldn't hurt, either, so go as you please). The point is, there are a few things that aren't higher versions. A thing or two. (That will surely change in the run up to release.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c2482f9.1050...@allums.com
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 25/06/10 07:41, Amar Cosic wrote: Well it ended up broken last night.. Everything boots OK but gdm wont start properly and doing aptitude safe-upgrade/full-upgrade acctualy shows some errors about udev. Funny thing is I did aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 before everything, but this acctualy pull'd a lot of things.. including udev. Weird that new udev depends on new kernel,but in same time it depends on it ? So without having any time for fixing, and without any graphical inv. would downloading and installing daily netinst cd of squeeze work OK ? I think this udev problem sounds more like the issue discussed in another branch of this thread. Looks like this problem http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=571255 If you read this report you will see there are some issues about what to depend on what. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c246811.6050...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 08:41 +0200, Amar Cosic wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Alan Chandler > wrote: > Well it ended up broken last night.. Everything boots OK but gdm wont start > properly and doing aptitude safe-upgrade/full-upgrade acctualy shows some > errors about udev. Funny thing is I did aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 > before everything, but this acctualy pull'd a lot of things.. including udev. > Weird that new udev depends on new kernel,but in same time it depends on it ? > So without having any time for fixing, and without any graphical inv. would > downloading and installing daily netinst cd of squeeze work OK ? The easiest way to deal with this is to install the package in question manually with dpkg -i, reboot and continue the upgrade. good luck Wolodja -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Alan Chandler wrote: > On 24/06/10 10:03, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> On 2010-06-24 08:29 +0200, Alan Chandler wrote: >> >> Yesterday, a fix for a problem where you could not make ext2, ext3 or >>> ext4 filesystems made it into testing. This has been around for a few >>> weeks, and although there is a workaround using the updated version >>> from SID, all the installation CDs from the weekly builds have not yet >>> caught up. >>> >> >> This can be worked around by using a daily snapshot of the installer: >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/ >> >> Worked fine for me in qemu three days ago. >> > > Unfortunately for me, these images did not recognise all my hardware, > whereas the weekly build full CD image did. They are using the sid > installer which is why they have a more up to date version. > > > > > -- > Alan Chandler > http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c2446a7.5040...@chandlerfamily.org.uk > > Well it ended up broken last night.. Everything boots OK but gdm wont start properly and doing aptitude safe-upgrade/full-upgrade acctualy shows some errors about udev. Funny thing is I did aptitude install linux-image-2.6-686 before everything, but this acctualy pull'd a lot of things.. including udev. Weird that new udev depends on new kernel,but in same time it depends on it ? So without having any time for fixing, and without any graphical inv. would downloading and installing daily netinst cd of squeeze work OK ? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ tnx. -- Amar Ćosić amar.co...@gmail.com a...@amar.ba +38761240095 http://www.amar.ba
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 24/06/10 10:03, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-06-24 08:29 +0200, Alan Chandler wrote: Yesterday, a fix for a problem where you could not make ext2, ext3 or ext4 filesystems made it into testing. This has been around for a few weeks, and although there is a workaround using the updated version from SID, all the installation CDs from the weekly builds have not yet caught up. This can be worked around by using a daily snapshot of the installer: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/ Worked fine for me in qemu three days ago. Unfortunately for me, these images did not recognise all my hardware, whereas the weekly build full CD image did. They are using the sid installer which is why they have a more up to date version. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c2446a7.5040...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
Hi, Mark: On Thursday 24 June 2010 16:06:17 Mark Allums wrote: > > Thank you all for info. Will upgrade tonight.. Just to be sure.. right > > way to do this is just to replace 'lenny' with 'squeeze' in sources.list > > && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ? Or there is something else > > I have to pay attention on ? > > I would retain the Lenny security update line in sources.list (for luck) > until Squeeze is released as Stable, and start with safe-upgrade. That's of little to no value since "security" will do nothing for packages you already have a higher version installed due to you going for Squeeze (it shouldn't hurt, either, so go as you please). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006250049.19646.jesus.nava...@undominio.net
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 2010-06-24 22:06 +0200, Mark Allums wrote: > On 6/24/2010 2:21 PM, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: >> On 06/24/2010 02:17 PM, Amar Cosic wrote: >>> And proper way to do this is apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 ? >> >> Yes, and then reboot. However, I recommend using aptitude for all >> functionality that aptitude allows for. > > > Does it matter what order udev is installed/upgraded: before, during, > or after the kernel is upgraded? Yes, that matters. And like Jordan said, you should boot with the new kernel before upgrading udev, because Squeeze's udev is not compatible with Lenny's kernel. See bug #571255¹ for the gory details. Sven ¹ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=571255 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8739wcrxn3@turtle.gmx.de
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 6/24/2010 2:21 PM, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: On 06/24/2010 02:17 PM, Amar Cosic wrote: And proper way to do this is apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 ? Yes, and then reboot. However, I recommend using aptitude for all functionality that aptitude allows for. Does it matter what order udev is installed/upgraded: before, during, or after the kernel is upgraded? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c23bac9.4080...@allums.com
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
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Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 06/24/2010 09:44 AM, Amar Cosic wrote: > > > > Thank you all for info. Will upgrade tonight.. Just to be sure.. right > way > > to do this is just to replace 'lenny' with 'squeeze' in sources.list && > > apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ? Or there is something else I > have > > to pay attention on ? > > > > > > Regards > > > > That alone will certainly fail due to changes in udev. You must upgrade > your kernel _first_, reboot, then proceed with the upgrade. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMI2++AAoJEKj/C3qNthmTwsQP/i4LDhefV4uoy5dlaMBKnZu2 > vWCwQInWKxZIfJcZLfCqnJuH5YaRFB3UY9jU7miVXwgMH0pVF4Y5oCkIjvqc1Tyj > eC02Ee6a36gFBkSa/Rml4zxmDnHTO+rZT1/YqCr5Kvb5owWsKX4utNR+refxjF01 > srGklIVoCNg7byNBPRpj6NNI1qZZlnm4AYkqN9oMZbkwWaXsaKvmxYeOCPsIS5/C > 4ajshSi0dvlJmFkYe80fgkonYyI1qUhZsOFucPcBPgTOp+LGrFpnIpSFNQAZ1ceV > ipIfPUtU5JzKkjx+hdCKN9dos56c3sFPLarxgPwaWks2LanrWEl0BnrEE8b8otok > gLDW/h+1+BTI9vJonHKT0W7WxH+4ya8G5KmxZdxs+F5BRBUqUdLCiV2q4OZn1EUj > pUi7J91jxgJo/DkNFvqOjpggKFDwA8ek/ZpztoEVQa1dlsg0AyvFX+E/7OTPj90R > +tPlKt+W/l5xadaOaX+qPE22IVAv7znq6CiwiEBalH8+nyVTGFxWK7rKrAWJvohm > 4eEDFZpcu6uvJspJg8JxGRlH0AjLFLoZ4Wysy+tsjx+PDP3i5xd/2c0KoskLPwKi > BKtq7pNmjAhupD2wBGJ2px9urgilY7RJpgC/fmdjWEkp4cmTjikGPGpBQcBq0z2Q > +7bwr1G9kOM0DYwbqeQf > =f44q > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c236fbe.50...@gmail.com > > And proper way to do this is apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 ? tnx. -- Amar Ćosić amar.co...@gmail.com a...@amar.ba +38761240095 http://www.amar.ba
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 06/24/2010 09:44 AM, Amar Cosic wrote: > > Thank you all for info. Will upgrade tonight.. Just to be sure.. right way > to do this is just to replace 'lenny' with 'squeeze' in sources.list && > apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ? Or there is something else I have > to pay attention on ? > > > Regards > That alone will certainly fail due to changes in udev. You must upgrade your kernel _first_, reboot, then proceed with the upgrade. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMI2++AAoJEKj/C3qNthmTwsQP/i4LDhefV4uoy5dlaMBKnZu2 vWCwQInWKxZIfJcZLfCqnJuH5YaRFB3UY9jU7miVXwgMH0pVF4Y5oCkIjvqc1Tyj eC02Ee6a36gFBkSa/Rml4zxmDnHTO+rZT1/YqCr5Kvb5owWsKX4utNR+refxjF01 srGklIVoCNg7byNBPRpj6NNI1qZZlnm4AYkqN9oMZbkwWaXsaKvmxYeOCPsIS5/C 4ajshSi0dvlJmFkYe80fgkonYyI1qUhZsOFucPcBPgTOp+LGrFpnIpSFNQAZ1ceV ipIfPUtU5JzKkjx+hdCKN9dos56c3sFPLarxgPwaWks2LanrWEl0BnrEE8b8otok gLDW/h+1+BTI9vJonHKT0W7WxH+4ya8G5KmxZdxs+F5BRBUqUdLCiV2q4OZn1EUj pUi7J91jxgJo/DkNFvqOjpggKFDwA8ek/ZpztoEVQa1dlsg0AyvFX+E/7OTPj90R +tPlKt+W/l5xadaOaX+qPE22IVAv7znq6CiwiEBalH8+nyVTGFxWK7rKrAWJvohm 4eEDFZpcu6uvJspJg8JxGRlH0AjLFLoZ4Wysy+tsjx+PDP3i5xd/2c0KoskLPwKi BKtq7pNmjAhupD2wBGJ2px9urgilY7RJpgC/fmdjWEkp4cmTjikGPGpBQcBq0z2Q +7bwr1G9kOM0DYwbqeQf =f44q -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c236fbe.50...@gmail.com
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
Brent Clark schreef: On 24/06/2010 15:44, Amar Cosic wrote: Thank you all for info. Will upgrade tonight.. Just to be sure.. right way to do this is just to replace 'lenny' with 'squeeze' in sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ? Or there is something else I have to pay attention on ? Thats what I did. But you may wish to rather use 'aptitude safe-upgrade'. 'aptitude safe-upgrade' will probably not upgrade many packages, as you're doing a 'full-upgrade' (previously 'dist-upgrade'). Yet, first doing a 'safe-upgrade' and see if all still is working is probably a cautious and thus good way to proceed. Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
Thank you all for info. Will upgrade tonight.. Just to be sure.. right way to do this is just to replace 'lenny' with 'squeeze' in sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ? Or there is something else I have to pay attention on ? I would retain the Lenny security update line in sources.list (for luck) until Squeeze is released as Stable, and start with safe-upgrade. Good luck! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c236659.3030...@allums.com
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 24/06/2010 15:44, Amar Cosic wrote: Thank you all for info. Will upgrade tonight.. Just to be sure.. right way to do this is just to replace 'lenny' with 'squeeze' in sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ? Or there is something else I have to pay attention on ? Thats what I did. But you may wish to rather use 'aptitude safe-upgrade'. Best of luck. Regards Brent Clark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c2363d9.3000...@gmail.com
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Brent Clark wrote: > On 24/06/2010 00:26, Amar Cosic wrote: > >> Hello list >> >> I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if >> everything is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you >> use squeeze so its probably best place to ask >> > > > Hiya > > I think its very stable, and sure enjoying it. > > Give it a whirl, I dont think you will be disappointed. > > Regards > Brent Clark > > P.s. Good to see more people using and enquiring about Squeeze. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c231890.10...@gmail.com > > Thank you all for info. Will upgrade tonight.. Just to be sure.. right way to do this is just to replace 'lenny' with 'squeeze' in sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ? Or there is something else I have to pay attention on ? Regards -- Amar Ćosić amar.co...@gmail.com a...@amar.ba +38761240095 http://www.amar.ba
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 24/06/2010 00:26, Amar Cosic wrote: Hello list I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if everything is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you use squeeze so its probably best place to ask Hiya I think its very stable, and sure enjoying it. Give it a whirl, I dont think you will be disappointed. Regards Brent Clark P.s. Good to see more people using and enquiring about Squeeze. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c231890.10...@gmail.com
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 2010-06-24 08:29 +0200, Alan Chandler wrote: > Yesterday, a fix for a problem where you could not make ext2, ext3 or > ext4 filesystems made it into testing. This has been around for a few > weeks, and although there is a workaround using the updated version > from SID, all the installation CDs from the weekly builds have not yet > caught up. This can be worked around by using a daily snapshot of the installer: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/ Worked fine for me in qemu three days ago. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wrtoera2@turtle.gmx.de
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 11:34 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > Well . . . I suppose this is not hijacking as it is about stability and > usability. I eagerly ran my apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, > rebooted and, voila, X refused to start. I finally installed the > proprietary nvidia driver AND removed nouveau and I got my X back. > > I was delighted to see that I could now define printers in KDE without > using the CUPS web interface. However, I still do not see a way to > change passwords as an ordinary user. How does an ordinary user who > does not use the command line (and thus passwd) and does not have the > root password change their password in KDE 4.4? Thanks - John System Settings -> Personal -> About Me -> Change Password Tao -- http://huangtao.me/ http://www.google.com/profiles/UniIsland > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1277350478.3411.16.ca...@localhost > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinq9iy_wvvuwlgykevtmtls3gvkhi6f9zfw2...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On 23/06/10 23:26, Amar Cosic wrote: Hello list I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if everything is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you use squeeze so its probably best place to ask Yesterday, a fix for a problem where you could not make ext2, ext3 or ext4 filesystems made it into testing. This has been around for a few weeks, and although there is a workaround using the updated version from SID, all the installation CDs from the weekly builds have not yet caught up. Other than that, I have been using it as a server and desktop (which I downgraded from SID) for some time. If you are just upgrading directly you should be ok. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c22fb51.8090...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 20:58 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 02:39 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > On Thursday 24 June 2010 02:21:39 John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 00:26 +0200, Amar Cosic wrote: > > > > Hello list > > > > > > > > > > > > I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if > > > > everything is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you > > > > use squeeze so its probably best place to ask > > > > > > On my newer hardware, Squeeze is preferable to Lenny. However, my > > > personal biggest issue with Squeeze as a KDE user is the forced > > > migration to KDE4 (not really a Debian issue but a KDE one as there is > > > no longer upstream support for KDE3). I have great hopes for KDE 4.4 > > > and like the new paradigm but the shipping KDE 4.3 still lacks basic > > > functionality. > > > > > > Tim Pearson has launched the Trinity project > > > (http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net - the site might be down due to > > > recent very severe weather) to continue development of KDE 3.5 for > > > Ubuntu and is willing to put together a Debian repository. That would > > > be my last major reservation for Squeeze until KDE 4.4 or 4.5 ships - > > > John > > > > Squeeze is shipped with kde 4.4.4 now > > Thierry > > > > > Fabulous! I'll have to give that a spin - John > > Well . . . I suppose this is not hijacking as it is about stability and usability. I eagerly ran my apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, rebooted and, voila, X refused to start. I finally installed the proprietary nvidia driver AND removed nouveau and I got my X back. I was delighted to see that I could now define printers in KDE without using the CUPS web interface. However, I still do not see a way to change passwords as an ordinary user. How does an ordinary user who does not use the command line (and thus passwd) and does not have the root password change their password in KDE 4.4? Thanks - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1277350478.3411.16.ca...@localhost
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 02:39 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Thursday 24 June 2010 02:21:39 John A. Sullivan III wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 00:26 +0200, Amar Cosic wrote: > > > Hello list > > > > > > > > > I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if > > > everything is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you > > > use squeeze so its probably best place to ask > > > > On my newer hardware, Squeeze is preferable to Lenny. However, my > > personal biggest issue with Squeeze as a KDE user is the forced > > migration to KDE4 (not really a Debian issue but a KDE one as there is > > no longer upstream support for KDE3). I have great hopes for KDE 4.4 > > and like the new paradigm but the shipping KDE 4.3 still lacks basic > > functionality. > > > > Tim Pearson has launched the Trinity project > > (http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net - the site might be down due to > > recent very severe weather) to continue development of KDE 3.5 for > > Ubuntu and is willing to put together a Debian repository. That would > > be my last major reservation for Squeeze until KDE 4.4 or 4.5 ships - > > John > > Squeeze is shipped with kde 4.4.4 now > Thierry > > Fabulous! I'll have to give that a spin - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1277341131.3411.13.ca...@localhost
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
To me squeeze is very stable. I have since moved to sid and surprisingly, it seems just as stable (to me that is) Sent from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Hanspeter Spalinger Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 02:27:46 To: Subject: Re: How 'stable' is squeeze? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 24.06.10 00:26, schrieb Amar Cosic: > Hello list > > I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if everything > is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you use squeeze so > its probably best place to ask > > > Regards > I use squeeze for my desktop workstation (web-things, IM, torrents, multimedia-things, games) and my local server (web, files, tor, dns). I had one arch-specific bug (which was fixed by check the bugtracker and edit a config file) but beside that no problems (less those I made by playing around). This is for ppc64-arch, I expected more trouble (kudos to debian-team). For non-critical systems I personaly consider squeeze 'ready for use' (but I wont let my mailserver use it until its stable ;-p) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkwipoEACgkQpjmLjrU66/7JmAD/dZ7Zndl72wiPkDW08hEdxI4i SfQsHmOgXLR0KrP1qiQBALRjBHi7ZJoJxRtBtiamSB8eH1Vn/TreF1LejSrwh1bK =E67V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c22a682.1040...@spahan.ch
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Thursday 24 June 2010 02:21:39 John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 00:26 +0200, Amar Cosic wrote: > > Hello list > > > > > > I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if > > everything is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you > > use squeeze so its probably best place to ask > > On my newer hardware, Squeeze is preferable to Lenny. However, my > personal biggest issue with Squeeze as a KDE user is the forced > migration to KDE4 (not really a Debian issue but a KDE one as there is > no longer upstream support for KDE3). I have great hopes for KDE 4.4 > and like the new paradigm but the shipping KDE 4.3 still lacks basic > functionality. > > Tim Pearson has launched the Trinity project > (http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net - the site might be down due to > recent very severe weather) to continue development of KDE 3.5 for > Ubuntu and is willing to put together a Debian repository. That would > be my last major reservation for Squeeze until KDE 4.4 or 4.5 ships - > John Squeeze is shipped with kde 4.4.4 now Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006240239.00996.tchate...@free.fr
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 24.06.10 00:26, schrieb Amar Cosic: > Hello list > > I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if everything > is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you use squeeze so > its probably best place to ask > > > Regards > I use squeeze for my desktop workstation (web-things, IM, torrents, multimedia-things, games) and my local server (web, files, tor, dns). I had one arch-specific bug (which was fixed by check the bugtracker and edit a config file) but beside that no problems (less those I made by playing around). This is for ppc64-arch, I expected more trouble (kudos to debian-team). For non-critical systems I personaly consider squeeze 'ready for use' (but I wont let my mailserver use it until its stable ;-p) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iF4EAREIAAYFAkwipoEACgkQpjmLjrU66/7JmAD/dZ7Zndl72wiPkDW08hEdxI4i SfQsHmOgXLR0KrP1qiQBALRjBHi7ZJoJxRtBtiamSB8eH1Vn/TreF1LejSrwh1bK =E67V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c22a682.1040...@spahan.ch
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
On Thu, 2010-06-24 at 00:26 +0200, Amar Cosic wrote: > Hello list > > > I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if > everything is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you > use squeeze so its probably best place to ask On my newer hardware, Squeeze is preferable to Lenny. However, my personal biggest issue with Squeeze as a KDE user is the forced migration to KDE4 (not really a Debian issue but a KDE one as there is no longer upstream support for KDE3). I have great hopes for KDE 4.4 and like the new paradigm but the shipping KDE 4.3 still lacks basic functionality. Tim Pearson has launched the Trinity project (http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net - the site might be down due to recent very severe weather) to continue development of KDE 3.5 for Ubuntu and is willing to put together a Debian repository. That would be my last major reservation for Squeeze until KDE 4.4 or 4.5 ships - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1277338899.3411.9.ca...@localhost
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
Hi, Amar: On Thursday 24 June 2010 00:26:28 Amar Cosic wrote: > Hello list > > I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if > everything is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you use > squeeze so its probably best place to ask The very people that works day in-day out with it doesn't deem it as being "Stable" but "Testing", so go figure. As of today, there's 594 Release-critical bugs*1 concerning the next release (Squezze to be named "Stable"). If you want to know more about Debian, its current status and its release cycle, have a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/ *1 Source: http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201006240208.47103.jesus.nava...@undominio.net
Re: How 'stable' is squeeze?
Le Thu 24/06/2010, Amar Cosic disait > Hello list > > I was thinking about upgrade to squeeze and just want to check if everything > is OK there? No 'critical' bugs etc.. ? I know a lot of you use squeeze so > its probably best place to ask > genarally nothing critical, but sometime a glitch may appear, like thos tlast days where a dependency bug broke mkfs.ext2 and mkfs.ext3 -- Erwan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100623223133.gb...@rail.eu.org
