SV: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :(
Hi Gancho A friend of mine (IBM-expert, former dealer) tells me you can download the setup disks from IBM's homepage. I dunno the adress, but it can't be hard to find. I'm gonna do this myself as I seem to have lost the disks for my old N51. Good Luck Vito > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Peter Allen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt:2. juni 1999 22:15 > Til: debian-user > Cc: recipient list not shown > Emne: Re: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :( > > I think I have read somewhere it is ctrl-alt-del then possibly > some other ctrl-alt combination. If all else feels, disconect > the keyboard, and something in the bios definatly comes up then. > (I'm not sure whether you can get in the bios itself from > that though, but its worth a try.) > > Peter Allen > > Gancho Tenev Tenev wrote: > > > > Hi !!! > > I did not speak about Debian Linux Instalation ! :) > > ( nor for rescue nor bootup diskette !!! ) > > Some IBM computers ( may be all ) have got setup ( for their hardware ) > on > > their HDD > > ( on separate hdd partition ). > > On other computers I press "DEL" and enter in setup program to configure > HDD, > > time, IRQ, > > memory, power management etc... I don't know how to do this on IBM PC > (PS/2) > > ... There is > > a diskette for this I am not sure ... :(( > > If I install Linux on sertain partition ( remove DOS FAT16 partition ) > and put > > in > > MBR Lilo things I AM AFRAID I WILL DESTROY something !!! > > If Linux instalation destroys something , I haven't got such diskette so > > I CANNOT configure hdd, time , IRQ ... etc. ( > > This is my problem !! > > > > Anybody knows what I should do !!! > > > > Sorry for I cannot explane this at first time !!! > > ( may be because of my bad english !:) > > > > Thanks for help !!! > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > Yo. > > > Don't need no ibm-setup-diskette. Get an installation cd from Debian > or > > > RedHat or whatever, should be fairly easy, or download the thing from > > > ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ There's also a very helpful installation > guide > > > in Debian's ftp-site, else try this: > > > http://visar.csustan.edu:8000/giveaway_dl.html > > > If you're using diskettes, be prepared for hell of a job. I did it > once, and > > > I'm not doing it again. CD is by far the easiest, lots less trouble, > no > > > keeping track of files and no bad diskettes. You can also do a > > > part-diskette, part-net installation, but I have no experience with > this. > > > A tiny program called FIPS will repartition your hd w/out any trouble. > > > Worked great for me. Available on most linux-ftp's. > > > Can't kill your computer, but might make it usable... > > > Good Luck! > > > Vitux > > > > > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > > > > Fra: Gancho Tenev Tenev [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sendt:31. maj 1999 15:40 > > > > Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > > Cc: recipient list not shown > > > > Emne: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! > > > > > > > > Hi!!! > > > > > > > > I have IBM 386 , 16 MB RAM , and 200 MB HDD. > > > > I have DOS (fat16) partition on HDD... > > > > I want to run linux on ext2 partition... > > > > But I don't know anything about IBM SETUP partition on HDD... > > > > I know that there is a setup-diskette . It runs setup-program that > > > > configure IBM hardware things :)... But I haven`t got such > diskette... > > > > :( > > > > I am going to remove DOS-partition ... and replace it with ext2 > > > > partition... > > > > I will use LILO boot loader ... > > > > Will I have a problem of some kind if I do this way!!! > > > > I am afraid that I will kill this IBM computer because of my > ignorance > > > > :))) > > > > HELP!!! > > > > > > > > Any Ideas!!! > > > > Gancho. #;o) > > > > > > > > P.S. Sorry for my bad english ... I hope You understand me ... and > help > > > > me :))) > > > > THANKS!!!... > > > > > > > > <> > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null
SV: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :(
Yo Gancho Think I know where you're at. The problem is accessing the IBM's bios/cmos w/out the special IBM system diskette. I used to have one for my ancient ibm laptop, but I can't find it right now, and I'm not even sure it works on a stationary system. A way of getting around it might be to install/deinstall some piece of hardware (f.x.change the ram-size) and see if the change will provoke some reaction from the built-in setup system. Might allow you to set other stuff too. Did this once on my laptop years ago, I believe. Anyway, what's the problem? The thing to do is go around the ibm-crap; you will be allowed to make other types of partitions than dos on an ibm disc. What you do is use fips, and just leave ibm-dos on its own (minimal) partition. You'll still be able to boot on the old dos-system using a normal dos-boot-diskette. This worked fine for me. Unless you want to change the hardware setup in the thing (f.x. put in a larger disc) there's no reason to make any changes in the cmos. Whatever you do, you can't destroy anything in the machine, only make it usable. If all else fails, why not try contacting IBM? I wouldnt wonder if they still supported that ol' thing. Good Luck Vitux Murphy's Law: Anything that can go wrong, will sooner or later. > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Gancho Tenev Tenev [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt:1. juni 1999 09:36 > Til: Wichmann, Viggo; debian-user@lists.debian.org > Emne: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! again :( > > Hi !!! > I did not speak about Debian Linux Instalation ! :) > ( nor for rescue nor bootup diskette !!! ) > Some IBM computers ( may be all ) have got setup ( for their hardware ) on > their HDD > ( on separate hdd partition ). > On other computers I press "DEL" and enter in setup program to configure > HDD, > time, IRQ, > memory, power management etc... I don't know how to do this on IBM PC > (PS/2) > ... There is > a diskette for this I am not sure ... :(( > If I install Linux on sertain partition ( remove DOS FAT16 partition ) and > put > in > MBR Lilo things I AM AFRAID I WILL DESTROY something !!! > If Linux instalation destroys something , I haven't got such diskette so > I CANNOT configure hdd, time , IRQ ... etc. ( > This is my problem !! > > Anybody knows what I should do !!! > > > Sorry for I cannot explane this at first time !!! > ( may be because of my bad english !:) > > Thanks for help !!! > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Yo. > > Don't need no ibm-setup-diskette. Get an installation cd from Debian or > > RedHat or whatever, should be fairly easy, or download the thing from > > ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ There's also a very helpful installation > guide > > in Debian's ftp-site, else try this: > > http://visar.csustan.edu:8000/giveaway_dl.html > > If you're using diskettes, be prepared for hell of a job. I did it once, > and > > I'm not doing it again. CD is by far the easiest, lots less trouble, no > > keeping track of files and no bad diskettes. You can also do a > > part-diskette, part-net installation, but I have no experience with > this. > > A tiny program called FIPS will repartition your hd w/out any trouble. > > Worked great for me. Available on most linux-ftp's. > > Can't kill your computer, but might make it usable... > > Good Luck! > > Vitux > > > > > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > > > Fra: Gancho Tenev Tenev [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sendt:31. maj 1999 15:40 > > > Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > Cc: recipient list not shown > > > Emne: Help!!! Linux plus IBM! > > > > > > Hi!!! > > > > > > I have IBM 386 , 16 MB RAM , and 200 MB HDD. > > > I have DOS (fat16) partition on HDD... > > > I want to run linux on ext2 partition... > > > But I don't know anything about IBM SETUP partition on HDD... > > > I know that there is a setup-diskette . It runs setup-program that > > > configure IBM hardware things :)... But I haven`t got such diskette... > > > :( > > > I am going to remove DOS-partition ... and replace it with ext2 > > > partition... > > > I will use LILO boot loader ... > > > Will I have a problem of some kind if I do this way!!! > > > I am afraid that I will kill this IBM computer because of my ignorance > > > :))) > > > HELP!!! > > > > > > Any Ideas!!! > > > Gancho. #;o) > > > > > > P.S. Sorry for my bad english ... I hope You understand me ... and > help > > > me :))) > > > THANKS!!!... > > > > > > <> < Tenev>>
SV: HELP!!!
Hi Kyle Im a newbie too! I've got almost the same problem as you do. But: are you installing from a CD? You might want to try specifying the path to the cd when using the dselect command. There seems (from my limited experience w/ dos and Linux) to be a problem w/ the partition table, some little flag or toggle must have gone wrong. I tried a couple of times before it worked. If you still have a dos/windows section (partition) on your harddisk, you should have three: one which is dos (usually /dev/hda1) and two for Linux: a file system partition (e.g. /dev/hda2) (which is where you store your stuff) and a swap partition (e.g. /dev/hda3). This is the way it worked for me. (I had to install the thing from the dos partition, since the machine aint got no cd-drive). >From what I can gather from various sources of information, though I haven't gotten as far as to installing the lot, it seems that linux is really "just" a unix-like os, and if you want a graphical interface, you have to install it. I believe it's called X-windows or just X. There is supposed to be both win and mac emulators out there too. > -Oprindelig meddelelse- > Fra: Kyle Landon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sendt:29. maj 1999 09:03 > Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Cc: recipient list not shown > Emne: HELP!!! > > Hi all, > > First of all I am a newbie. Second I cleared my c: and wipped win and all > > files gone. Not to upset about that, I just want to get Debian working. > I > can log on as my superuser and user so I can access the program. I cannot > > seem to do much at the $. I run dselect with my root account but cannot > find the packages.cd. I thought Debian had a graphical interface. What > might I be doing or have done that is wrong? I get the error message > /dev/hda1 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced. > > Thank you, > > Kyle > > > ___ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null
