Fw: Video card suggestion
Dear all, I have just raised a question on whether to adopt ATI or Nvidia in my new PC? I'm going to build a new PC to replace my old PC. As there is many adverse comment on the Phenom, I would buy a Althon X2 (probably 5000+ Black Edition). For the MO, I will select either the Asus M3A78-emh-hdmi or M3N78-EMH HDMI. It is a matter of ATI or Nvidia. As these two MO are not yet ready in the market, could you give me some comments based on the performance of M2N-VM DH (GeForce 6150SE + nForce 430 ) and M2A-VM HDMI (AMD 690G + SB600). It seems that I have got the answer - I should continue to stick to Nvidia. :-) Jerry Wong But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. (2 Peter 3:13) - Original Message - From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 11:00 AM Subject: Re: Video card suggestion -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: | On 02/10/08 17:45, KS wrote: | Hi all, | | I am planning on assembling an AMD based system. I noticed that most of | the motherboards that I am looking at (socket AM2 or AM2+) do not | onboard video card. That isn't a problem as I will put a dedicated video | card in there. But I'm a bit confused as to which brand to go for: | Nvidia or ATI. | | I have had a 5700LE Nvidia card(AGP) and it has been working great with | it's proprietary drivers (and nv driver also). I got it almost 2years | ago. How has the graphics cards scene changed since then? Does ATI based | cards support 3D acceleration and are as easily recognized as Nvidia | cards? | | They've opened their specs, but good 3D video drivers take time to | write. Maybe in two years I'll get an ATI card, but maybe then | again maybe I'll buy another NVIDIA, in recognition that they put | their money where their mouth was at a time when most h/w OEMs | wouldn't give FLOSS projects the time of day... | |The ones that looked attractive (price wise) are: | | ATI: | ASUS EAH2600XT/HTDP/256M Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI | Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121082 | | SAPPHIRE 100220L Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR4 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102708 | | MSI RX2600XT-T2D512EZ Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127298 | | | | as opposed to - Nvidia: | XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150229 | | MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127284 | | XFX PVT84GUDF3 GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150228 | | Unless you are doing *serious* 3D work, Linux just does *not* need | leading-edge video. | | I purchased a fanless PCI-e ASUS EN7200GS card with 256MB (maybe | 128MB) RAM from NewEgg, and am very happy with it. | ive been using nvidia cards on all my computers with linux over the last ~ 4 years with good luck. (proprietary driver) Tried an ATI card a couple years ago and wound up putting it my sons windows box, as I couldnt get it to work properly with 3d on suse was what I was using at the time. but that was a couple years ago. I use the ati proprietary driver on my laptop now, and have decent performance with it. I believe the general consensus is on all the lists I subscribe to is that nvidia is generally more advanced at this point, but ati is slowly coming around. If it were me, id stick with nvidia for now, good luck. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHr7er1L48K811Km0RAtqDAKDBL+XTk5wcBiGL9zZv4vvLT3n6hwCdGnEJ JTkVw/on+NmpiBYLUyEYsXs= =4Rp3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.20.2/1271 - Release Date: 11/2/2008 8:16 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video card suggestion
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 06:45:31PM -0500, KS wrote: I am planning on assembling an AMD based system. I noticed that most of the motherboards that I am looking at (socket AM2 or AM2+) do not onboard video card. That isn't a problem as I will put a dedicated video card in there. But I'm a bit confused as to which brand to go for: Nvidia or ATI. It depends (as always). -- Do you want or need 3D, or have you been happy with the nv driver? -- Do you have philisophical or security concerns around using nVIDIA's kernel blob driver? Check out the opendesktop website and follow the links and see where things stand right now with ATI. My feeling is that if ATI is opening up specs, we should support them once the ATI drivers come on line. That website should let you know. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Video card suggestion
Hi all, I am planning on assembling an AMD based system. I noticed that most of the motherboards that I am looking at (socket AM2 or AM2+) do not onboard video card. That isn't a problem as I will put a dedicated video card in there. But I'm a bit confused as to which brand to go for: Nvidia or ATI. I have had a 5700LE Nvidia card(AGP) and it has been working great with it's proprietary drivers (and nv driver also). I got it almost 2years ago. How has the graphics cards scene changed since then? Does ATI based cards support 3D acceleration and are as easily recognized as Nvidia cards? The ones that looked attractive (price wise) are: ATI: ASUS EAH2600XT/HTDP/256M Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121082 SAPPHIRE 100220L Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR4 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102708 MSI RX2600XT-T2D512EZ Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127298 as opposed to - Nvidia: XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150229 MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127284 XFX PVT84GUDF3 GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150228 Thanks, KS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video card suggestion
On Sun February 10 2008 03:45:31 pm KS wrote: Hi all, I am planning on assembling an AMD based system. I noticed that most of the motherboards that I am looking at (socket AM2 or AM2+) do not onboard video card. That isn't a problem as I will put a dedicated video card in there. But I'm a bit confused as to which brand to go for: Nvidia or ATI. I have had a 5700LE Nvidia card(AGP) and it has been working great with it's proprietary drivers (and nv driver also). I got it almost 2years ago. How has the graphics cards scene changed since then? Does ATI based cards support 3D acceleration and are as easily recognized as Nvidia cards? The ones that looked attractive (price wise) are: ATI: ASUS EAH2600XT/HTDP/256M Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121082 SAPPHIRE 100220L Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR4 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102708 MSI RX2600XT-T2D512EZ Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127298 as opposed to - Nvidia: XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150229 MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127284 XFX PVT84GUDF3 GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150228 I have always used an nvidia card myself, and they work well for me. I run a 5700LE also as well as a 6200 with 256mb. The drivers haven't been in testing for quite a while so if you use testing you'll need to get the packages from unstable. I find nvidia-kernel-legacy-96xx works well. I have been looking over the ati stuff lately though. They use the fglrx package and soon they will also have the aiglx packages (don't know much about these). I think my next video card will be an ati (owned by amd now I think) and see how it goes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video card suggestion
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 06:45:31PM -0500, KS wrote: I am planning on assembling an AMD based system. I noticed that most of the motherboards that I am looking at (socket AM2 or AM2+) do not onboard video card. That isn't a problem as I will put a dedicated video card in there. But I'm a bit confused as to which brand to go for: Nvidia or ATI. It depends (as always). -- Do you want or need 3D, or have you been happy with the nv driver? -- Do you have philisophical or security concerns around using nVIDIA's kernel blob driver? Check out the opendesktop website and follow the links and see where things stand right now with ATI. My feeling is that if ATI is opening up specs, we should support them once the ATI drivers come on line. That website should let you know. Doug. Yes, 3D is needed at times when I want to play games. Although that isn't that often, but still. But when I'm paying for the nVidia or ATI cards, I want their own drivers to work and utilize all the features of the hardware. It is another case that I am using nv instead of nVidia right now, but it is easy to get it working again. How do ATI cards fare in that regards? Is installing and removing ATI drivers ( proprietary ) as easy as nVidia's? How different is the performance? Oh, and how does nouveau fare for nVidia? Has anyone tested it yet? KS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video card suggestion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/10/08 17:45, KS wrote: Hi all, I am planning on assembling an AMD based system. I noticed that most of the motherboards that I am looking at (socket AM2 or AM2+) do not onboard video card. That isn't a problem as I will put a dedicated video card in there. But I'm a bit confused as to which brand to go for: Nvidia or ATI. I have had a 5700LE Nvidia card(AGP) and it has been working great with it's proprietary drivers (and nv driver also). I got it almost 2years ago. How has the graphics cards scene changed since then? Does ATI based cards support 3D acceleration and are as easily recognized as Nvidia cards? They've opened their specs, but good 3D video drivers take time to write. Maybe in two years I'll get an ATI card, but maybe then again maybe I'll buy another NVIDIA, in recognition that they put their money where their mouth was at a time when most h/w OEMs wouldn't give FLOSS projects the time of day... The ones that looked attractive (price wise) are: ATI: ASUS EAH2600XT/HTDP/256M Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121082 SAPPHIRE 100220L Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR4 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102708 MSI RX2600XT-T2D512EZ Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127298 as opposed to - Nvidia: XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150229 MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127284 XFX PVT84GUDF3 GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150228 Unless you are doing *serious* 3D work, Linux just does *not* need leading-edge video. I purchased a fanless PCI-e ASUS EN7200GS card with 256MB (maybe 128MB) RAM from NewEgg, and am very happy with it. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA PETA - People Eating Tasty Animals -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHr7DaS9HxQb37XmcRAoqsAKDrGvMDW7mYBurnhP1ZxPnGVjY48wCfcFFP h3GzSSiHE5nxvCI3Fk07rUQ= =XzqK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video card suggestion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: | On 02/10/08 17:45, KS wrote: | Hi all, | | I am planning on assembling an AMD based system. I noticed that most of | the motherboards that I am looking at (socket AM2 or AM2+) do not | onboard video card. That isn't a problem as I will put a dedicated video | card in there. But I'm a bit confused as to which brand to go for: | Nvidia or ATI. | | I have had a 5700LE Nvidia card(AGP) and it has been working great with | it's proprietary drivers (and nv driver also). I got it almost 2years | ago. How has the graphics cards scene changed since then? Does ATI based | cards support 3D acceleration and are as easily recognized as Nvidia | cards? | | They've opened their specs, but good 3D video drivers take time to | write. Maybe in two years I'll get an ATI card, but maybe then | again maybe I'll buy another NVIDIA, in recognition that they put | their money where their mouth was at a time when most h/w OEMs | wouldn't give FLOSS projects the time of day... | |The ones that looked attractive (price wise) are: | | ATI: | ASUS EAH2600XT/HTDP/256M Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI | Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121082 | | SAPPHIRE 100220L Radeon HD 2600XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR4 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102708 | | MSI RX2600XT-T2D512EZ Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127298 | | | | as opposed to - Nvidia: | XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150229 | | MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127284 | | XFX PVT84GUDF3 GeForce 8600GTS 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150228 | | Unless you are doing *serious* 3D work, Linux just does *not* need | leading-edge video. | | I purchased a fanless PCI-e ASUS EN7200GS card with 256MB (maybe | 128MB) RAM from NewEgg, and am very happy with it. | ive been using nvidia cards on all my computers with linux over the last ~ 4 years with good luck. (proprietary driver) Tried an ATI card a couple years ago and wound up putting it my sons windows box, as I couldnt get it to work properly with 3d on suse was what I was using at the time. but that was a couple years ago. I use the ati proprietary driver on my laptop now, and have decent performance with it. I believe the general consensus is on all the lists I subscribe to is that nvidia is generally more advanced at this point, but ati is slowly coming around. If it were me, id stick with nvidia for now, good luck. - -- Steve Reilly http://reillyblog.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHr7er1L48K811Km0RAtqDAKDBL+XTk5wcBiGL9zZv4vvLT3n6hwCdGnEJ JTkVw/on+NmpiBYLUyEYsXs= =4Rp3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
Jeff Noxon wrote: I'm not sure who started this thread, I did. but I recommend the nVidia RIVA TNT chip. You can buy a 16MB TNT card (PCI or AGP) for $99 at Best Buy. You can find them cheaper on the 'net. Creative Labs makes one, and so do several other companies. They work very well under both Windoze and X. And the driver is now open source. I found: STB Velocity 4400 Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Riva TNT ASUS V3400 TNT (AGP only) Diamond Viper V550 Hercules Dynamite TNT What version of XFree is required, and what xserver do we use? Thanks! Peter
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 12:59:31PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I found: STB Velocity 4400 Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Riva TNT ASUS V3400 TNT (AGP only) Diamond Viper V550 Hercules Dynamite TNT What version of XFree is required, and what xserver do we use? Just about any version of XFree will do. You may need to download a newer X server from xfree86.org, or upgrade to potato. If I recall correctly, the SVGA server contains the TNT support. You might want to double-check on the xfree86.org website. Regards Jeff
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Jeff Noxon wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 12:59:31PM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: I found: STB Velocity 4400 Creative Labs Graphics Blaster Riva TNT ASUS V3400 TNT (AGP only) Diamond Viper V550 Hercules Dynamite TNT What version of XFree is required, and what xserver do we use? Just about any version of XFree will do. You may need to download a newer X server from xfree86.org, or upgrade to potato. If I recall correctly, the SVGA server contains the TNT support. You might want to double-check on the xfree86.org website. I've been following this thread with interest as I've been looking for a new video card for a while. Its really cool to see NVIDIA openly contributing to a XFree 86 driver for the Riva-based video cards. I'll have to throw my measily monetary vote their way and pickup one of these cards soon. The Linux movement seems to be getting stronger and stronger!
8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
I have a PCI Matrox Millenium 2 MB video card (2 years old) and now I find I really want 32 bit colour. I tried to find a Matrox Millenium G200 PCI 8 MB card, but only AGP ones are available (PCI is in back-order). Any suggestions for an 8MB card well-supported by XFree PCI that can do 32bit-colour at 1600x1200 and 76Hz? Thanks -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 08:49:36AM -0400, Peter S Galbraith wrote: Any suggestions for an 8MB card well-supported by XFree PCI that can do 32bit-colour at 1600x1200 and 76Hz? I wouldn't call ATI well supported but here they are the only PCI cards still available. And they work with Linux (XFree86 3.3.3.1 version probably required) and are cheap as well. Nils -- Plug-and-Play is really nice, unfortunately it only works 50% of the time. To be specific the Plug almost always works.--unknown source pgpUIfzww2KUW.pgp Description: PGP signature
8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
Date: I have a PCI Matrox Millenium 2 MB video card (2 years old) and now I find I really want 32 bit colour. I tried to find a Matrox Millenium G200 PCI 8 MB card, but only AGP ones are available (PCI is in back-order). Any suggestions for an 8MB card well-supported by XFree PCI that can do 32bit-colour at 1600x1200 and 76Hz? Is your Millenium card upgradeable? I have the 8m version of the same card and it does the resolutions you want. (I paid about $60 for it because it was discontinued old stock at a computer show). BTW have you tried to run linux svga doom on yours? It causes mine to lock up with no video and I have to reboot. === Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
Kenneth Scharf wrote: I have a PCI Matrox Millenium 2 MB video card (2 years old) and now I find I really want 32 bit colour. I tried to find a Matrox Millenium G200 PCI 8 MB card, but only AGP ones are available (PCI is in back-order). Any suggestions for an 8MB card well-supported by XFree PCI that can do 32bit-colour at 1600x1200 and 76Hz? Is your Millenium card upgradeable? Yes, but (1) I couldn't find an upgrade for it a year ago, and (2) it uses WRAM and the 6 MB upgrade used to cost more than a newer G200 card anyway. I have the 8m version of the same card and it does the resolutions you want. (I paid about $60 for it because it was discontinued old stock at a computer show). Lucky! BTW have you tried to run linux svga doom on yours? It causes mine to lock up with no video and I have to reboot. Never tried. I use it at work. Thanks, Peter
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
I'm not sure who started this thread, but I recommend the nVidia RIVA TNT chip. You can buy a 16MB TNT card (PCI or AGP) for $99 at Best Buy. You can find them cheaper on the 'net. Creative Labs makes one, and so do several other companies. They work very well under both Windoze and X. And the driver is now open source. Regards Jeff
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
I've often wanted to go with a TNT card, but I'm concerned about the card's heat output. Every query I've ever made about just how hot does this card run has been left largely unanswered, which has just increased my trepidation about the card in general. Sean Jeff Noxon wrote: I'm not sure who started this thread, but I recommend the nVidia RIVA TNT chip. You can buy a 16MB TNT card (PCI or AGP) for $99 at Best Buy. You can find them cheaper on the 'net. Creative Labs makes one, and so do several other companies. They work very well under both Windoze and X. And the driver is now open source. Regards Jeff -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 03:14:40PM -0400, Sean wrote: I've often wanted to go with a TNT card, but I'm concerned about the card's heat output. Every query I've ever made about just how hot does this card run has been left largely unanswered, which has just increased my trepidation about the card in general. If you're looking for actual temperatures, check out http://sysdoc.pair.com. In general, don't worry about it. If you don't overclock the card, heat is not a problem. Mine uses a passive heatsink and it's just fine. The Diamond and Hercules and Asus use fans. The Asus and Hercules cards run cold. Regards, Jeff
Re: 8MB PCI 1600x1200@76Hz video card suggestion?
hi Kenneth Scharf wrote: I have a PCI Matrox Millenium 2 MB video card (2 years old) and now I find I really want 32 bit colour. I tried to find a Matrox Millenium G200 PCI 8 MB card, but only AGP ones are available (PCI is in back-order). Any suggestions for an 8MB card well-supported by XFree PCI that can do 32bit-colour at 1600x1200 and 76Hz? Is your Millenium card upgradeable? Yes, but (1) I couldn't find an upgrade for it a year ago, and (2) it uses WRAM and the 6 MB upgrade used to cost more than a newer G200 card anyway. I have the 8m version of the same card and it does the resolutions you want. (I paid about $60 for it because it was discontinued old stock at a computer show). Lucky! BTW have you tried to run linux svga doom on yours? It causes mine to lock up with no video and I have to reboot. Never tried. I use it at work. Thanks, Peter may recommend NVIDIA Riva card(s): Viper 330 PCI 8Meg with Riva 128 Viper 550 PCI 16Meg with Riva TNT now even accelerated openGL works OK
