installation von vmware tools in VMWare + Debian Woody 2.4

2003-12-04 Thread Jean Fiedler
Also mei Problem ist folgendes ich hab Debian unter VMWare installiert.
läuft alles supi. Hab Momentan kein KDE etc. wollte erst VMWare Tools
installieren.

konnte sie auch installieren, nur beim konfigurieren haperts!

VMWARE meint : What is the location of the directory of C header files that
match your running kernel?

Er schlägt das Verzeichnis /usr/src/linux/include vor, doch das existiert
nicht! Kann mir jemand sagen, wo sich das verzeicnis befindet, oder wo ich die
header files herbekomme?


Danke!


PS: falls es wichtig ist hab debian mit der option bf24 installiert, da man
es sonst unter VMWare gar nicht installieren kann :-(



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Re: installation von vmware tools in VMWare + Debian Woody 2.4

2003-12-04 Thread Heimo Ponnath
Hallo Jean,

Am Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2003 18:02 schrieb Jean Fiedler:
 Kann mir jemand sagen, wo sich das verzeicnis befindet, oder wo ich
 die header files herbekomme?

zunächst einmal musst Du wissen, welchen Kernel Du installiert hast. 
Dann aktualisierst Du mit

apt-get update

und suchst mit 

apt-cache search kernel-headers-2.x.yy

(dafür deine Kernelversion einsetzen)

Danach holst Du Dir die zu Deinem System passenden Kernel-Header-Dateien 
mit apt-get install kernel-headers-2.x.yy

Bei mir befinden sich die entsprechenden Dateien in 

/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.4.18-bf2.4/include/

Wobei ich mir offen gestanden nicht so ganz sicher bin, ob die damals 
bei der Installation per apt-get install ... dort automatisch gelandet 
waren, oder ob ich da noch Hand angelegt hatte..

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Re: installation von vmware tools in VMWare + Debian Woody 2.4

2003-12-04 Thread J-T Krug
Hallo Jean,

Jean Fiedler schrieb:

Also mei Problem ist folgendes ich hab Debian unter VMWare installiert.
läuft alles supi. Hab Momentan kein KDE etc. wollte erst VMWare Tools
installieren.
konnte sie auch installieren, nur beim konfigurieren haperts!

VMWARE meint : What is the location of the directory of C header files that
match your running kernel?
Er schlägt das Verzeichnis /usr/src/linux/include vor, doch das existiert
nicht! Kann mir jemand sagen, wo sich das verzeicnis befindet, oder wo ich die
header files herbekomme?
 

Du mußt die Kernel-Headers oder sogar -Quellen installieren.
Also, passend zu deinem Kernel: 'apt-get install kernel-headers-V' -
wobei 'V' der Ausgabe von 'uname -r' entspricht.
Anschliessend noch einen symbolischen Link in '/usr/src' mit 'ln -s
kernel-headers-V' linux setzen.
Gruß Jörg


Danke!

PS: falls es wichtig ist hab debian mit der option bf24 installiert, da man
es sonst unter VMWare gar nicht installieren kann :-(


 





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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Helgi Örn
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 04:12, Paul Johnson wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Helgi Örn wrote:
 
  Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in
Woody?
  I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major
  tweaking.
 
 Mostly, yes.  Just run the vmware config, and be sure to build those
 kernel modules.  If you use devfs, you'll need to let devfsd know this
 in it's config files so the vmware devices don't get smacked down on
 next reboot.
 
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Hi!

This is what I get when I start the installation with RPM:
---
# rpm -i --test VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
/bin/sh   is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
ld-linux.so.2 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libICE.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libSM.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libX11.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libXext.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libXi.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libXmu.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libXp.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libXpm.so.4 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libXt.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libXtst.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libc.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libcrypt.so.1 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libdl.so.2 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
libm.so.6 is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
/usr/bin/perl is needed by VMwareWorkstation-3.1.1-1790
---

#whereis gives a responce on some of the stuff at least:

sh: /bin/sh /usr/share/man/man1/sh.1.gz
ld-linux.so: /lib/ld-linux.so.2
libc.so: /lib/libc.so.6 /usr/lib/libc.so
libcrypt.so: /lib/libcrypt.so.1 /usr/lib/libcrypt.so
libdl.so: /lib/libdl.so.2 /usr/lib/libdl.so
libm.so: /lib/libm.so.6 /usr/lib/libm.so
perl: /usr/bin/perl /usr/lib/perl /usr/share/perl
/usr/share/man/man1/perl.1.gz

So what's the problem?
I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some
weird oddities combined with that?

Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On 12 Jun 2002 13:46:46 +0200
Helgi Örn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is what I get when I start the installation with RPM:
(snip)
 So what's the problem?
 I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some
 weird oddities combined with that?

Why are you trying to use the RPM?  Why not use the TAR archive at
the link below (taken directly from VMWare's web-site):

http://vmware-svca.www.conxion.com/software/VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.tar.gz


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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:46:46PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote:
 I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some
 weird oddities combined with that?

Never do that. Use alien if you can't find a non-RPM version of the
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:24, Jamin W. Collins wrote:
 
 Why are you trying to use the RPM?  Why not use the TAR archive at
 the link below (taken directly from VMWare's web-site):
 

http://vmware-svca.www.conxion.com/software/VMware-workstation-3.1.1-1790.tar.gz
 
Because that's what I had here, and RPM installed itself in Woody so why
shouldn't 
I have assumed that it(RPM) was there to be used?
But I'll use the tarball, I like tarballs...:-)

Thank's for the help.

Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:28, Colin Watson wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:46:46PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote:
  I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some
  weird oddities combined with that?
 
 Never do that. Use alien if you can't find a non-RPM version of the
 package.
 
Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there?
The Linux (rpm)package is not dist-specific AFAIK and RPM is installed
in Woody so why not?
I've never before seen or used RPM in Debian so I thought it was
interesting to give it a try, of course I used *rpm -i --test package*
just to se the outcome without actually installing.

Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:20:53PM +0200, Helgi ?rn Helgason wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:28, Colin Watson wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:46:46PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote:
   I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some
   weird oddities combined with that?
  
  Never do that. Use alien if you can't find a non-RPM version of the
  package.
 
 Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there?

I believe it's there for extracting files manually from RPMs, building
RPMs, and that sort of thing. Using it to install packages on your live
system is dangerous because there's no protection against RPM packages
stomping all over things that dpkg has installed; if you use alien, you
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Robert Ian Smit
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:20:53PM +0200, Helgi ?rn Helgason wrote:
 
 Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there?
 The Linux (rpm)package is not dist-specific AFAIK and RPM is installed
 in Woody so why not?
 I've never before seen or used RPM in Debian so I thought it was
 interesting to give it a try, of course I used *rpm -i --test package*
 just to se the outcome without actually installing.
 
Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in
section admin, priority optional.

In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use
alien instead:

Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system!

Enough said.

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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:26, Colin Watson wrote:
 I believe it's there for extracting files manually from RPMs, building
 RPMs, and that sort of thing. Using it to install packages on your live
 system is dangerous because there's no protection against RPM packages
 stomping all over things that dpkg has installed; if you use alien, you
 get that protection.
 
Thank's that was interesting. With time I will probably learn...:-)

Now when I run the tarball installation I can't seem to give the
installer the right information when it asks me:
*What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
running kernel?*

Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
 Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in
 section admin, priority optional.
 
 In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use
 alien instead:
 
 Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system!
 
 Enough said.
 
Thank's.
I promise I will keep away from rpm packages from now on, at least as
long as I stay with Debian, which I plan to do if I can manage to tame
this beast to my liking... :-)

Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:58:05PM +0200, Helgi ?rn Helgason wrote:
 Now when I run the tarball installation I can't seem to give the
 installer the right information when it asks me:
 *What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
 running kernel?*

If you compiled your own kernel, it's the include directory there.
Otherwise, you'll probably want to get hold of the appropriate
kernel-headers package.

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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On 12 Jun 2002 15:58:05 +0200
Helgi Örn Helgason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Now when I run the tarball installation I can't seem to give the
 installer the right information when it asks me:
 *What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your
 running kernel?*

Do you have the headers and/or source for your kernel version installed?

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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Ian D. Stewart

On 2002.06.12 09:58 Helgi Örn Helgason wrote:

On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:26, Colin Watson wrote:
 I believe it's there for extracting files manually from RPMs,
building
 RPMs, and that sort of thing. Using it to install packages on your
live
 system is dangerous because there's no protection against RPM
packages
 stomping all over things that dpkg has installed; if you use alien,
you
 get that protection.

Thank's that was interesting. With time I will probably learn...:-)

Now when I run the tarball installation I can't seem to give the
installer the right information when it asks me:
*What is the location of the directory of C header files that match
your
running kernel?*


Look in /usr/src.  Assuming you have installed the kernel-header 
package, there should be a directory called 
/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19, or something similiar.



HTH.
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Helgi Örn Helgason
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
 Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in
 section admin, priority optional.
 
 In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use
 alien instead:
 
 Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system!
 
# apt-get remove rpm
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kde kpackage rpm

The thing want's to remove KDE when I ask it to remove RPM, what kind of
service is that?

Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread John Hasler
Helgi writes:
 Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there?

RPM is there so that alien can use it to convert packages.

 The Linux (rpm)package is not dist-specific...

It is specific to RPM-based didtributions.  Using both RPM and dpkg on the
same system will result in each overwriting some files installed by the
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 04:41:32PM +0200, Helgi ?rn Helgason wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
  Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in
  section admin, priority optional.
  
  In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use
  alien instead:
  
  Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system!
 
 # apt-get remove rpm
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   kde kpackage rpm
 
 The thing want's to remove KDE when I ask it to remove RPM, what kind of
 service is that?

No, it doesn't. 'kde' is just a metapackage; it contains nothing but
dependencies on the real bits of KDE. If you want to remove one of those
bits (since kpackage depends on rpm), then there's absolutely nothing
wrong with removing the kde metapackage.

See 'dpkg -p kde'.

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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Helgi Örn
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 16:20, Ian D. Stewart wrote:
 
 Look in /usr/src.  Assuming you have installed the kernel-header 
 package, there should be a directory called 
 /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.2.19, or something similiar.
 
 
 HTH.
 Ian
 
I installed the kernel-image-2.4.18-686 package with apt-get, no
headers. 
Now I installed the headers and VmWare and everything seems to work OK
so far.
Sometimes life is quite a feast!

Thank's all for the help.

Skál víkingar!
HÖ

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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Michel Loos
Em Qua, 2002-06-12 às 10:20, Helgi Örn Helgason escreveu:
 On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:28, Colin Watson wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 01:46:46PM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote:
   I've never before installad a package with RPM in Debian, are there some
   weird oddities combined with that?
  
  Never do that. Use alien if you can't find a non-RPM version of the
  package.
  
 Please explain why RPM shouldn't be used when it's there?
 The Linux (rpm)package is not dist-specific AFAIK and RPM is installed
 in Woody so why not?

The dependences are not correctly checked.
rpm will check against other installed RPMs, 
dpkg checks against installed DEBs. 
If you want the dependance checking system to work correctly you
must use one installation system only, and it is much better
to use dpkg (.DEBs) because 1) it is much better then rpm, 2) it is the
default of Debian.

Michel. 

 I've never before seen or used RPM in Debian so I thought it was
 interesting to give it a try, of course I used *rpm -i --test package*
 just to se the outcome without actually installing.
 
 Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Michel Loos
Em Qua, 2002-06-12 às 11:41, Helgi Örn Helgason escreveu:
 On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
  Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in
  section admin, priority optional.
  
  In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use
  alien instead:
  
  Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system!
  
 # apt-get remove rpm
 Reading Package Lists... Done
 Building Dependency Tree... Done
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   kde kpackage rpm
 
 The thing want's to remove KDE when I ask it to remove RPM, what kind of
 service is that?

You are not removing kde, you are removing the kde meta-package, because
kpackage depends on rpm

Michel.


 
 Cheers,
 Helgi Örn
 
  
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-12 Thread Michel Loos
Em Qua, 2002-06-12 às 11:04, Helgi Örn Helgason escreveu:
 On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 15:27, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
  Rpm is installed in Woody only if you select it. It's available in
  section admin, priority optional.
  
  In the package desciption you will find a strong suggestion to use
  alien instead:
  
  Using rpm directly will bypass the Debian packaging system!
  
  Enough said.
  
 Thank's.
 I promise I will keep away from rpm packages from now on, at least as
 long as I stay with Debian, which I plan to do if I can manage to tame
 this beast to my liking... :-)

No need for that, just use alien to transform your .rpm in .deb
then use dpkg to install the resulting .deb

Michel.

 
 Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-07 Thread Mark Janssen
On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 04:12, Paul Johnson wrote:
 Mostly, yes.  Just run the vmware config, and be sure to build those
 kernel modules.  If you use devfs, you'll need to let devfsd know this
 in it's config files so the vmware devices don't get smacked down on
 next reboot.

Hi,

Could you send me these required changes... :)

I currently have to re-run vmware-config every time I reboot... which is
quite a lot on my laptop.

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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-07 Thread Paul Johnson
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:51:19AM +0200, Mark Janssen wrote:

 Could you send me these required changes... :)

Your /etc/devfs/devices file should look something like the attached.

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# devices file
# format: name [bc] major minor uid gid mode
# or: directory-name d   uid gid mode
#
# here's a sample for the cpuid and msr
#
#cpu/0   d   rootroot0755
#cpu/0/cpuid c   203 0   rootroot0660
#cpu/0/msr   c   202 0   rootroot0660
vmnet0  c   119 0   rootroot0600


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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-07 Thread Dave Carrigan
On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 23:54, Paul Johnson wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 08:51:19AM +0200, Mark Janssen wrote:
 
  Could you send me these required changes... :)
 
 Your /etc/devfs/devices file should look something like the attached.

After running wmware-config, do a ls -l /dev/vm* and make sure you add
all of the vmware devices that you see into the devices file. My vmware
installation also uses a vmmon file and a vmnet8 file.

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VmWare on Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Helgi Örn
Hello all!

Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody?
I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major
tweeking.

Cheers,
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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Quenten Griffith
Yes I am and it runs great right out of the box with the 2.4.18 kernel.

Helgi Örn wrote:

 Hello all!

 Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody?
 I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major
 tweeking.

 Cheers,
 Helgi Örn

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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Helgi Örn
Thank's. Great! now I can iron over a RedHat with a Woody... :-)

Cheers,
Helgi Örn


On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 02:00, Quenten Griffith wrote:
 Yes I am and it runs great right out of the box with the 2.4.18 kernel.
 
  Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody?
  I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major
  tweeking.

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Re: VmWare on Woody

2002-06-06 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 01:58:19AM +0200, Helgi ?rn wrote:

 Is there someone here with an experience running VmWare 3.1.1 in Woody?
 I just need to know if this is at all possible without any major
 tweeking.

Mostly, yes.  Just run the vmware config, and be sure to build those
kernel modules.  If you use devfs, you'll need to let devfsd know this
in it's config files so the vmware devices don't get smacked down on
next reboot.

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