Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
Harry Putnam wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > Ralph Katz wrote: > >> Also of course: > >> ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager > > > > I think the alternatives tool is better. > > $ update-alternatives --list x-window-manager > > $ update-alternatives --list x-session-manager > > Then to configure it: > > # update-alternatives --config x-session-manager > > I must really not be following what that tool is supposed to show me. It shows you programs that are available to act as alternatives for the generic name. When there are different equivalent programs for the same thing. Some generic names are awk (mawk, gawk), vi (elvis, nvi, vim.gtk, vim.tiny), emacs (emacs23, emacs24), editor (emacs, vi, nano, mcedit). And all of those others such as www-browser (elinks, links, lynx, w3m), x-session-manager (gnome-session, lxsession, xfce4-session), x-terminal-emulator (gnome-terminal, lxterm, konsole, xterm), x-window-manager (awesome, fvwm2, metacity, openbox, twm), x-www-browser (chromium, epiphany-browser, iceweasel, midori). Enabling customization is one of the reasons we call Debian the Universial Operating System. Your system for you. My system for me. Both runing Debian. But each customized for our specific needs. The Debian Alternatives is a customization framework. Some time ago I wrote this message where I try to describe how the alternatives system works. The particular item is a little dated now but I think the general concepts are all still relevant. Scroll down past the top and get down to the walk through of installing and uninstalling packages that use the alternatives and hopefully it will still be useful to describe how things work. https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/08/msg02808.html > On my system it shows > update-alternatives --list x-window-manager > /usr/bin/awesome > /usr/bin/blackbox > /usr/bin/metacity > /usr/bin/openbox > /usr/bin/startfluxbox > > But the desktop I'm running is XLDE... which is not even listed > there. LXDE is a session manager not a window manager. To see what session manager alternatives are installed you would need to look at those. List the x-session-manager alternatives not x-window-manager. $ update-alternatives --list x-session-manager Probably you will have lxsession in there. As far as your question about LXDE if I look at: $ apt-cache show lxde-core | grep Depends: ... Depends: desktop-file-utils, lxde-common, lxpanel, openbox, pcmanfm (>= 0.9.8) By default LXDE will use openbox if no other window manager is specified. I see openbox in your list. I don't know if that is what you have configured on your system. But I assume you have LXDE as your desktop session manager and have openbox as your window manager. I should have suggested --display to display all of the details. update-alternatives --display x-window-manager update-alternatives --display x-session-manager That will show the current settings too as well as more verbose information. x-session-manager - auto mode link currently points to /usr/bin/lxsession x-window-manager - auto mode link currently points to /usr/bin/openbox But the current settings for you will depend upon what you have installed and if you have made any customizations. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
Sharon Kimble writes: > On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:21:57 -0400 > Harry Putnam wrote: > >> Bob Proulx writes: >> >> > Ralph Katz wrote: >> >> Also of course: >> >> ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager >> > >> > I think the alternatives tool is better. >> > >> > $ update-alternatives --list x-window-manager >> > >> > $ update-alternatives --list x-session-manager >> > >> > Then to configure it: >> > >> > # update-alternatives --config x-session-manager >> >> I must really not be following what that tool is supposed to show me. >> >> On my system it shows >> update-alternatives --list x-window-manager >> /usr/bin/awesome >> /usr/bin/blackbox >> /usr/bin/metacity >> /usr/bin/openbox >> /usr/bin/startfluxbox >> >> But the desktop I'm running is XLDE... which is not even listed >> there. > > Of course it isn’t, because I bet you're NOT running XLDE, because it > doesn't exist! You probably mean 'LXDE', don't you? Gack... err yes. But the point is still valid. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txio6jdx@newsguy.com
Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:21:57 -0400 Harry Putnam wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > > Ralph Katz wrote: > >> Also of course: > >> ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager > > > > I think the alternatives tool is better. > > > > $ update-alternatives --list x-window-manager > > > > $ update-alternatives --list x-session-manager > > > > Then to configure it: > > > > # update-alternatives --config x-session-manager > > I must really not be following what that tool is supposed to show me. > > On my system it shows > update-alternatives --list x-window-manager > /usr/bin/awesome > /usr/bin/blackbox > /usr/bin/metacity > /usr/bin/openbox > /usr/bin/startfluxbox > > But the desktop I'm running is XLDE... which is not even listed > there. Of course it isn’t, because I bet you're NOT running XLDE, because it doesn't exist! You probably mean 'LXDE', don't you? Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/ Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.1.0.4 Registered Linux user 334501 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
Bob Proulx writes: > Ralph Katz wrote: >> Also of course: >> ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager > > I think the alternatives tool is better. > > $ update-alternatives --list x-window-manager > > $ update-alternatives --list x-session-manager > > Then to configure it: > > # update-alternatives --config x-session-manager I must really not be following what that tool is supposed to show me. On my system it shows update-alternatives --list x-window-manager /usr/bin/awesome /usr/bin/blackbox /usr/bin/metacity /usr/bin/openbox /usr/bin/startfluxbox But the desktop I'm running is XLDE... which is not even listed there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ob8w8nbe@newsguy.com
Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
Ralph Katz writes: > On 08/04/2013 10:25 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Summary: How to make focus follow mouse when all settings appear to be >> set for focus to follow mouse but still it does not happen. >> >> Details: >> Running an lxde desktop. I'm setup for ~/.xinitrc to invoke lxde. >> > [...] >> Ok, so what else to do to make focus follow mouse? > > Maybe check to see if you are actually running another window manager? > It happened to me once long ago. Look for metacity, xfwm4, etc here: > ~$ ps -ef Good call. It turned out I was logging into something called gnome/openbox. When I actually logged into LXDE the problem disappeared. I suppose I could persue why 'focus follows mouse' doesn't work in gnome/openbox but I don't really care enough since I don't like openbox much anyway. I meant to be using LXDE all along. This is a vm (vbox) with debian as guest, and has been setting here unused a good while... I fired it up and updated everthing, and never noticed I was in something besides LXDE. After a few days of setup, finally got around to being bothered enough missing 'focus follows mouse' to start snivelling. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/x6li4edgzn@newsguy.com
Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
Ralph Katz wrote: > Also of course: > ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager I think the alternatives tool is better. $ update-alternatives --list x-window-manager $ update-alternatives --list x-session-manager Then to configure it: # update-alternatives --config x-session-manager Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/05/2013 01:29 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: > On 08/04/2013 10:25 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Summary: How to make focus follow mouse when all settings appear >> to be set for focus to follow mouse but still it does not >> happen. > >> Details: Running an lxde desktop. I'm setup for ~/.xinitrc to >> invoke lxde. > > [...] >> Ok, so what else to do to make focus follow mouse? > > Maybe check to see if you are actually running another window > manager? It happened to me once long ago. Look for metacity, > xfwm4, etc here: ~$ ps -ef > > Good luck! Ralph Also of course: ~$ ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR/+JcAAoJECe2FpioHXO6mgsH/Ag+pR4BoFNQzGv1HLy8BEG3 wlzzvh1+rzUZh23nL2kn7G5LHbJOgEu9sPj78Pg52YxZgFgMWsW3WBYJxilzPF1C JC+YAwpYJ3s57QCrLUaf6uiF1CHjHJ3MIsXyYKDr4gMdYhxNpPUabr3oivjV4zRh shdcXI0vg7TEXYcTs82AtMMWdWvyqul46bRWyNVJ+elIqmK1NW3XASojcHZwjzYM a/sf9ZiVy6vYfE5k3xVZOSmoBboDUpoonBMVe3yFO55iIrFd6xWM27kBtyv7agcI hcSoNSa7f1C/jdlxja/H9j1SaOFjO8b+HVXLW3PltzYByuiyJdpNbaqdP8DtVPA= =f1J0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51ffe25f.5090...@rcn.com
Re: lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/04/2013 10:25 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Summary: How to make focus follow mouse when all settings appear to be > set for focus to follow mouse but still it does not happen. > > Details: > Running an lxde desktop. I'm setup for ~/.xinitrc to invoke lxde. > [...] > Ok, so what else to do to make focus follow mouse? Maybe check to see if you are actually running another window manager? It happened to me once long ago. Look for metacity, xfwm4, etc here: ~$ ps -ef Good luck! Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJR/+DfAAoJECe2FpioHXO6e6oIAIJpS1mPqFpQdTu5HRMiTWMe wlXDBmJBFmsVredOpbITcC3AvyTzPVlcx0Ms0Mf4CzDyKrkyNCmdI/NenIjyWHLf 1WpoUuxe5/kNeVSb9xapP2QpNrN09LUDthKXAwxQdJtp641yq54iU9R6LFIPqLZS miVSKmZqr9Takxfk9Cb+N0Iofsu1oEg+iof9S0ed/43QDo2UH6O+Jrio7auZFRjy awE2mJ7goxIA6YO+qpLDRJk8C31Ag6dkMJGTax+rFqHj/Pz0iiknbk8ncOsvRVp1 1vJIUKjdr0tKG4F/l922Jun7skRh8JS/BtNLm+q0laH1XkrbKhY6UZ4+1/lDF/M= =Fzyc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51ffe0e3.7060...@rcn.com
lxde and focus follow mouse... not happening
Summary: How to make focus follow mouse when all settings appear to be set for focus to follow mouse but still it does not happen. Details: Running an lxde desktop. I'm setup for ~/.xinitrc to invoke lxde. I dug around in the settings and found where I could set 'focus follows mouse' so that windows 'raise' when the mouse goes over them. And I could set the time in milliseconds for the raise to happen. All familiar stuff... other than finding where to make the settings in the GUI. There are actually two places: 1) From the top panel menu item Applications/ System Tools / preferences / openbox conifuration manager / then on the tabs on left of window chose 'Mouse' [x] Focus windows when the mouse pointer moves over them [...] [x] Raise windows when mouse pointer moves over them Delay before focusing ... 600 Milisec --- --- ---=--- --- --- 2) Applications / System tools / preferences / Advanced settings / then from the list on left chose 'Windows' "Window focus mode 'Mouse' So I have both set as indicated, but still, even after a reboot I don't have focus following mouse. Open and overlap two xterms move the mouse to the one partially under the other and it should be raised withing 600 miliseconds, which his just a bit over 1/2 second. NOTHING HAPPENS. So I checked the text (xml) config file found at: ~/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml, and sure enough I found the setting: (asterisks at key lines added -hp) yes *** yes yes no 600 *** yes --- --- ---=--- --- --- Ok, so what else to do to make focus follow mouse? Oh PS - I rebooted after making and checking all settings just to make sure that they had all been started. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87siyo50ww@newsguy.com
