Re: problem with modern desktops on Buster [RESOLVED]
I've been back in Plasma 5 for a couple of days now. I think it was a kernel update that did the trick. On 2018-08-06 03:03 PM, Gary Dale wrote: When I rebooted my computer (AMD64/Buster) yesterday, I couldn't get Plasma to operate. After logging with sddm, the computer locked up hard (wouldn't respond to SysRq or Ctl-Alt-Del) before the desktop appeared. I switched to Gnome which seems to work a little better but I was still getting lockups. I tried Gnome over Xorg in case it was a Wayland problem but that also seemed to have problems. It crashed overnight and left me with some panic text on the screen and the computer was locked up. I couldn't get much beyond the initial desktop display when I restarted. I've been using Gnome Flashback (Metacity) for about 5 hours now, including a couple periods when the screen saver / lock kicked in, and it seems OK. I'm not even sure where to report this problem since I can't identify a specific package that is causing it. However since Gnome Flashback seems to be working, I'd guess that it is in the flashier desktop elements.
Re: problem with modern desktops on Buster
Dale Forsyth wrote: > I've been using Gnome Flashback (Metacity) for about 5 hours now, > including a couple periods when the screen saver / lock kicked in, and > it seems OK. I stayed ad KDE3 (now trinity desktop) it never fails as it is 15+y proven technology regards
Re: problem with modern desktops on Buster
https://www.mycause.com.au/page/183259/a-smile-will-change-a-day-love-that-changed-my-world From: Gary Dale Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2018 5:03 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: problem with modern desktops on Buster When I rebooted my computer (AMD64/Buster) yesterday, I couldn't get Plasma to operate. After logging with sddm, the computer locked up hard (wouldn't respond to SysRq or Ctl-Alt-Del) before the desktop appeared. I switched to Gnome which seems to work a little better but I was still getting lockups. I tried Gnome over Xorg in case it was a Wayland problem but that also seemed to have problems. It crashed overnight and left me with some panic text on the screen and the computer was locked up. I couldn't get much beyond the initial desktop display when I restarted. I've been using Gnome Flashback (Metacity) for about 5 hours now, including a couple periods when the screen saver / lock kicked in, and it seems OK. I'm not even sure where to report this problem since I can't identify a specific package that is causing it. However since Gnome Flashback seems to be working, I'd guess that it is in the flashier desktop elements.
Re: problem with modern desktops on Buster
On 2018-08-08 12:13 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 2018-08-07 07:13 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 03:03:57PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I'm not even sure where to report this problem since I can't identify a specific package that is causing it. However since Gnome Flashback seems to be working, I'd guess that it is in the flashier desktop elements. You can report a bug against the pseudo-package "general" if you aren't sure what's at fault, but it's possibly better to ask here first, as you have, to see if people can help narrow down the problem. What graphics hardware do you have (e.g. nvidia), and have you installed any drivers from outside Debian to use it? Thanks. I'm thrilled to report that I'm back in Plasma and it is behaving itself again (so far) after doing the latest full-upgrade. As for non-debian drivers, I don't have any. The worst I've done is include non-free firmware for my NIC. Despite my earlier success with Gnome Flashback, it took to locking up when I tried to bring the computer back after the screen saver kicked in. Turning off the suspend mode cured that. I note that under KDE, I actually have just been locking the screen. Hopefully whatever nastiness caused me two days of pain using Gnome Flashback has been resolved. That situation lasted until my next reboot. Now I'm back to where it was, except the Gnome Flashback seems to be having trouble when coming back from the screensaver. I'm now using xfce which uses the Xscreensaver. It's been OK for 24 hours but I've just adjusted the screen saver to turn off the monitor when it kicks in. I'll see how that pans out. Last night's updates didn't fix the problem and I haven't seen anything in tonight's that looked hopeful. My hardware is Ryzen 7, ASUS x-370, 16G RAM, ASUS HD-7850 video, Samsung 960 EVO M2 ssd, and various HDs in a RAID 5 array. Everything was running great until a few days ago. When I first set up the system, I got the occasional lockup but a few UEFI updates and the latest kernels seemed to have ended that. Now the lockups are highly repeatable (e.g. starting Plasma 5).
Re: problem with modern desktops on Buster
On 2018-08-07 07:13 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 03:03:57PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I'm not even sure where to report this problem since I can't identify a specific package that is causing it. However since Gnome Flashback seems to be working, I'd guess that it is in the flashier desktop elements. You can report a bug against the pseudo-package "general" if you aren't sure what's at fault, but it's possibly better to ask here first, as you have, to see if people can help narrow down the problem. What graphics hardware do you have (e.g. nvidia), and have you installed any drivers from outside Debian to use it? Thanks. I'm thrilled to report that I'm back in Plasma and it is behaving itself again (so far) after doing the latest full-upgrade. As for non-debian drivers, I don't have any. The worst I've done is include non-free firmware for my NIC. Despite my earlier success with Gnome Flashback, it took to locking up when I tried to bring the computer back after the screen saver kicked in. Turning off the suspend mode cured that. I note that under KDE, I actually have just been locking the screen. Hopefully whatever nastiness caused me two days of pain using Gnome Flashback has been resolved.
Re: problem with modern desktops on Buster
On Mon, Aug 06, 2018 at 03:03:57PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I'm not even sure where to report this problem since I can't identify a specific package that is causing it. However since Gnome Flashback seems to be working, I'd guess that it is in the flashier desktop elements. You can report a bug against the pseudo-package "general" if you aren't sure what's at fault, but it's possibly better to ask here first, as you have, to see if people can help narrow down the problem. What graphics hardware do you have (e.g. nvidia), and have you installed any drivers from outside Debian to use it? -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Jonathan Dowland ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://jmtd.net ⠈⠳⣄ Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.
problem with modern desktops on Buster
When I rebooted my computer (AMD64/Buster) yesterday, I couldn't get Plasma to operate. After logging with sddm, the computer locked up hard (wouldn't respond to SysRq or Ctl-Alt-Del) before the desktop appeared. I switched to Gnome which seems to work a little better but I was still getting lockups. I tried Gnome over Xorg in case it was a Wayland problem but that also seemed to have problems. It crashed overnight and left me with some panic text on the screen and the computer was locked up. I couldn't get much beyond the initial desktop display when I restarted. I've been using Gnome Flashback (Metacity) for about 5 hours now, including a couple periods when the screen saver / lock kicked in, and it seems OK. I'm not even sure where to report this problem since I can't identify a specific package that is causing it. However since Gnome Flashback seems to be working, I'd guess that it is in the flashier desktop elements.
