Re: update tool

2014-10-18 Thread Diogene Laerce


On 10/18/2014 05:07 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote:
> 2014-10-18 14:24 keltezéssel, Diogene Laerce írta:
>>> There are several: apticron, cron-apt, unattended-upgrades and I see 
>>> update-notifier is being replaced with gnome-packagekit.
>>
>> I was looking for a portable and simple way to notify the user
>> of necessary update. But update-manager is not in Jessy, apticron and
>> cron-apt a bit too complicated..
> 
> I don't know apticron but in cron-apt you should only configure the
> destination email address and you can leave any other on the default
> setting. I would not say 'too complicated'.

I need something simple as True or False answer.

>> I guess I'm going to stick with a
>> "update && upgrade" script.
> 
> Your choice.

My burden.. I know. :)
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Re: update tool

2014-10-18 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-10-18 14:24 keltezéssel, Diogene Laerce írta:
>> There are several: apticron, cron-apt, unattended-upgrades and I see 
>> update-notifier is being replaced with gnome-packagekit.
> 
> I was looking for a portable and simple way to notify the user
> of necessary update. But update-manager is not in Jessy, apticron and
> cron-apt a bit too complicated..

I don't know apticron but in cron-apt you should only configure the
destination email address and you can leave any other on the default
setting. I would not say 'too complicated'.

> I guess I'm going to stick with a
> "update && upgrade" script.

Your choice.


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Re: update tool

2014-10-18 Thread Diogene Laerce


On 10/17/2014 10:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 17 oct 14, 20:20:29, Diogene Laerce wrote:
>>
>> Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
>> updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
>> security updates are available for their system. "
> ... 
>> So does anyone know what tool he does refer to ?
> 
> There are several: apticron, cron-apt, unattended-upgrades and I see 
> update-notifier is being replaced with gnome-packagekit.

I was looking for a portable and simple way to notify the user
of necessary update. But update-manager is not in Jessy, apticron and
cron-apt a bit too complicated.. I guess I'm going to stick with a
"update && upgrade" script.

>> There are several: apticron, cron-apt, unattended-upgrades and I see
>> update-notifier is being replaced with gnome-packagekit.
>
> So the text should read: "Debian has several tools to check if ..." ?
>

:)

Thanks to all. :)
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Re: update tool

2014-10-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:18:53PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 17 oct 14, 20:20:29, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> > 
> > Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
> > updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
> > security updates are available for their system. "
> ... 
> > So does anyone know what tool he does refer to ?
> 
> There are several: apticron, cron-apt, unattended-upgrades and I see 
> update-notifier is being replaced with gnome-packagekit.

So the text should read: "Debian has several tools to check if ..." ?

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Re: update tool

2014-10-17 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:29:11 -0400
Ric Moore  wrote:

> On 10/17/2014 03:27 PM, Reco wrote:
> >   Hi.
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:20:29 +0200
> > Diogene Laerce  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On this page :
> >> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch10.en.html
> >>
> >> One says : "10.1.2.1 Manually checking which security updates are available
> >>
> >> Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
> >> updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
> >> security updates are available for their system. "
> >>
> >> As the author tells about apt-get update && upgrade in the following
> >> lines, I guess it
> >> is not the tool he is referring to.
> >>
> >> So does anyone know what tool he does refer to ?
> >
> > This package fits the description:
> >
> > https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/update-manager-core
> 
> Not finding that one in Jessie. Thanx, Ric


https://packages.qa.debian.org/u/update-manager/news/20130524T163917Z.html

Reco


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Re: update tool

2014-10-17 Thread Ric Moore

On 10/17/2014 03:27 PM, Reco wrote:

  Hi.

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:20:29 +0200
Diogene Laerce  wrote:


Hi,

On this page :
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch10.en.html

One says : "10.1.2.1 Manually checking which security updates are available

Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
security updates are available for their system. "

As the author tells about apt-get update && upgrade in the following
lines, I guess it
is not the tool he is referring to.

So does anyone know what tool he does refer to ?


This package fits the description:

https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/update-manager-core


Not finding that one in Jessie. Thanx, Ric


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Re: update tool

2014-10-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 17 oct 14, 20:20:29, Diogene Laerce wrote:
> 
> Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
> updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
> security updates are available for their system. "
... 
> So does anyone know what tool he does refer to ?

There are several: apticron, cron-apt, unattended-upgrades and I see 
update-notifier is being replaced with gnome-packagekit.

Kind regards,
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Re: update tool

2014-10-17 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:20:29 +0200
Diogene Laerce  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On this page :
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch10.en.html
> 
> One says : "10.1.2.1 Manually checking which security updates are available
> 
> Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
> updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
> security updates are available for their system. "
> 
> As the author tells about apt-get update && upgrade in the following
> lines, I guess it
> is not the tool he is referring to.
> 
> So does anyone know what tool he does refer to ?

This package fits the description:

https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/update-manager-core

Reco


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update tool

2014-10-17 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi,

On this page :
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch10.en.html

One says : "10.1.2.1 Manually checking which security updates are available

Debian does have a specific tool to check if a system needs to be
updated but many users will just want to manually check if any
security updates are available for their system. "

As the author tells about apt-get update && upgrade in the following
lines, I guess it
is not the tool he is referring to.

So does anyone know what tool he does refer to ?

Thank you,

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