Re: xfce workspace switcher question

2013-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 23:07 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> "Use the mouse wheel" seems to work just fine; but no keyboard option.
> Time to hack code I guess :)

The mouse wheel sometimes can't replace the short cuts, but I can live
with cursor up and down key. Most of the times I anyway use only 1 row.
It's not only bad when it doesn't continue with the second row, it could
be an advantage, e.g. windows of programs could be in the first row and
terminal emulation windows were those programs were launched in the
second row, then it could be useful, if it won't continue with the
second row.



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Re: xfce workspace switcher question

2013-08-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/30/13, Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 22:15 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Start -> Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks
>> -> Workspaces -> Wrap workspaces when ...
>>
>> /usr/bin/xfwm4-tweaks-settings
>
> Yes, it's possible to stop it, but

Hi Ralph :)

The conjunction "yes ..., but" is not so tolerant. The word "but"
negates all that came before it. Also, it leads reader to think you
are negating/disdainful of what was before your "but". I hope you did
not want that.

> there seems to be no way to make it
> continue, when at the forth workspace (last one in the first row) to
> continue with the fifth workspace (first one in the second row).

"Use the mouse wheel" seems to work just fine; but no keyboard option.
Time to hack code I guess :)


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Re: xfce workspace switcher question

2013-08-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/30/13, François Patte  wrote:
> Le 30/08/2013 14:15, Zenaan Harkness a écrit :
>> On 8/30/13, François Patte  wrote:
>>> I configured the workspace switcher (is it the right name?) to have 8
>>> workspaces on 2 rows.
>>> I use Ctrl-Alt-left/right-arrows (and up/down) to switch from one
>>> workspace to another.
>>> When I reach the 4th workspace, if I press Ctrl-Alt-right, I come back
>>> to 1st workspace, same behaviour from 1st to 4th if I press
>>> Ctrl-Alt-left or I switch from 1st row to 2nd row pressing Ctrl-Alt-up.
>>> How can I stop this, ie. when I am on the last workspace I don't want to
>>> go to the 1st one... etc.
>>
>> Start -> Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks
>> -> Workspaces -> Wrap workspaces when ...
>>
>> /usr/bin/xfwm4-tweaks-settings
>
> Ah! thanks, I feel better!

There are a few things here and there that, when we get habitualized
to them, it is always a niggle while they no longer work that way. I
had to find the same thing about 6 months ago :)

> In French, we have to untick something entitled "Change workspace
> according to desktop settings"... Which is absolutly not explicit!

Sounds like XFCE french translations need some work.

My first thought is, the concept "enable workspace wraparound" is
generic, and the french translation is generic, so there ought be a
cross-desktop (eg gnome, kde, xfce, lxde, etc) translation database
... that would require someone to make that happen. If it's not done
in about 12 years, I may have time to start that project myself. Even
though I only speak English, I think it is a worthwhile project. I've
thought about these things in the past too... there could be benefits
to more cross-desktop cooperation.

> Also: Why the configuration of one thing is scattered accross 3 tools?
> To configure the workspaces you have: xfwm4-tweak-settings, the panel
> seeting and the workspaces settings...

Yes, there is much to do. In a few years, I plan to choose and join a
desktop project as a developer. Not possible for me for a while yet.

Good luck
Zenaan


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Re: xfce workspace switcher question

2013-08-30 Thread François Patte
Le 30/08/2013 14:15, Zenaan Harkness a écrit :
> On 8/30/13, François Patte  wrote:
>> I configured the workspace switcher (is it the right name?) to have 8
>> workspaces on 2 rows.
>> I use Ctrl-Alt-left/right-arrows (and up/down) to switch from one
>> workspace to another.
>> When I reach the 4th workspace, if I press Ctrl-Alt-right, I come back
>> to 1st workspace, same behaviour from 1st to 4th if I press
>> Ctrl-Alt-left or I switch from 1st row to 2nd row pressing Ctrl-Alt-up.
>> How can I stop this, ie. when I am on the last workspace I don't want to
>> go to the 1st one... etc.
> 
> Start -> Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks
> -> Workspaces -> Wrap workspaces when ...
> 
> /usr/bin/xfwm4-tweaks-settings

Ah! thanks, I feel better!

In French, we have to untick something entitled "Change workspace
according to desktop settings"... Which is absolutly not explicit!

Also: Why the configuration of one thing is scattered accross 3 tools?
To configure the workspaces you have: xfwm4-tweak-settings, the panel
seeting and the workspaces settings...


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Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849
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Re: xfce workspace switcher question

2013-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 22:15 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Start -> Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks
> -> Workspaces -> Wrap workspaces when ...
> 
> /usr/bin/xfwm4-tweaks-settings

Yes, it's possible to stop it, but there seems to be no way to make it
continue, when at the forth workspace (last one in the first row) to
continue with the fifth workspace (first one in the second row).



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Re: xfce workspace switcher question

2013-08-30 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/30/13, François Patte  wrote:
> I configured the workspace switcher (is it the right name?) to have 8
> workspaces on 2 rows.
> I use Ctrl-Alt-left/right-arrows (and up/down) to switch from one
> workspace to another.
> When I reach the 4th workspace, if I press Ctrl-Alt-right, I come back
> to 1st workspace, same behaviour from 1st to 4th if I press
> Ctrl-Alt-left or I switch from 1st row to 2nd row pressing Ctrl-Alt-up.
> How can I stop this, ie. when I am on the last workspace I don't want to
> go to the 1st one... etc.

Start -> Settings -> Window Manager Tweaks
-> Workspaces -> Wrap workspaces when ...

/usr/bin/xfwm4-tweaks-settings


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Re: xfce workspace switcher question

2013-08-30 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-08-30 at 10:42 +0200, François Patte wrote:
> How can I stop this, ie. when I am on the last workspace I don't want to
> go to the 1st one... etc.

I don't see a way to change this, in /usr/share/xfce4/panel/plugins/
and /usr/share/xfwm4/ I can't see settings for this, so there seem to be
only available, what's provided by the properties dialog.


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xfce workspace switcher question

2013-08-30 Thread François Patte
Bonjour,

I configured the workspace switcher (is it the right name?) to have 8
workspaces on 2 rows.

I use Ctrl-Alt-left/right-arrows (and up/down) to switch from one
workspace to another.

When I reach the 4th workspace, if I press Ctrl-Alt-right, I come back
to 1st workspace, same behaviour from 1st to 4th if I press
Ctrl-Alt-left or I switch from 1st row to 2nd row pressing Ctrl-Alt-up.

How can I stop this, ie. when I am on the last workspace I don't want to
go to the 1st one... etc.

Thank you.

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UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte



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