Bug#272280: xbase-clients: [xset] Document and make default mouse acceleration that doesn't suck

2004-10-14 Thread Dylan Thurston
retitle 272280 xserver-xfree86: [mouse] change acceleration default to smooth 
acceleration
thanks

On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 01:51:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> tag 272280 + upstream moreinfo

It's not an upstream issue; they've already fixed the issue, although they
haven't documented it.

> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xfree-xpert&m=101624642005523&w=2
> 
> I don't get many bug reports about mouse acceleration -- in fact, yours is
> the first I can recall -- so I suspect that you are in a minority in
> feeling that the default mouse acceleration parameters "suck".

OK, that was too strong, my apologies.

If you use the standard X acceleration, for instance the parameters
you recommend:

> Pointer Control:
>   acceleration:  20/10threshold:  4

the distance the on-screen cursor moves, as a function of the distance
your mouse moves in a time interval, is not continuous.  This is
easily observed by moving the mouse smoothly close to the threshold
value.  The cursor will move in fits and starts, depending whether you
moved more or less than the threshold in a particular interval.  This
broken behaviour is documented in the X standards; it hurts control in
a number of applications.  (When above the threshold, the distance
moved is multiplied by the acceleration; since this applies to the
total distance, not just the amount above the threshold, discontinuous
motion results.)

There are much better solutions to getting smooth cursor acceleration,
one of which was apparently implemented in XFree86 several years ago.
The post on xfree86-xpert that I gave the link to above is the only
place I've been able to find documentation of this feature, although
it's easy to verify that it works as advertised.

Peace,
Dylan


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Bug#272280: xbase-clients: [xset] Document and make default mouse acceleration that doesn't suck

2004-10-13 Thread Branden Robinson
retitle 272280 xserver-xfree86: [mouse] change acceleration default to 
something that 'doesn't suck'
reassign 272280 xserver-xfree86
severity 272280 wishlist
tag 272280 + upstream moreinfo
thanks

On Sat, Sep 18, 2004 at 07:15:25PM -0400, Dylan Thurston wrote:
> Package: xbase-clients
> Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7
> Severity: minor
> 
> The default mouse acceleration on a new X install is abysmal.  Please
> document and make default the xset options to make it not suck.  See
> 
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xfree-xpert&m=101624642005523&w=2

I don't get many bug reports about mouse acceleration -- in fact, yours is
the first I can recall -- so I suspect that you are in a minority in
feeling that the default mouse acceleration parameters "suck".

That, or something unusual is going on in your particular configuration.

When you first launch the X server, what mouse acceleration is reported?

You can find out by running "xset q".  For example, I get:

Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  20/10threshold:  4

...which works satisfactorily for me.

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Bug#272280: xbase-clients: [xset] Document and make default mouse acceleration that doesn't suck

2004-09-18 Thread Dylan Thurston
Package: xbase-clients
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-7
Severity: minor

The default mouse acceleration on a new X install is abysmal.  Please
document and make default the xset options to make it not suck.  See

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xfree-xpert&m=101624642005523&w=2

Thanks,
Dylan

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ii  libncurses5   5.4-4  Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii  libpng12-01.2.5.0-7  PNG library - runtime
ii  libsm64.3.0.dfsg.1-7 X Window System Session Management
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ii  libxcursor1   1.1.3-1X cursor management library
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