Setting the color of the background (was Re: Shortcuts text colour and Command Center window problems on Puppy Linux)

2020-03-03 Thread Richard Shann
On Tue, 2020-03-03 at 18:59 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > Talking about colours, is it possible to modify the background
> > > colour
> > > of both the editing
> > >   and print view windows?
> > 
> > The "editing window" that is, the Denemo Display, can have its
> > color
> > set from Scheme - I forget the syntax, ask if you need it - while
> > the
> > Print View is (IIRC) just the default i.e. theme-able.
> 
> It'd be nice to be able change the background colour of the Denemo
> Display.

I searched the Help->Browse Manual for "color" and came up with

SetBackground. Set passed 24 bit number as RGB color of background. 

which is cryptic to say the least it means

(d-SetBackground 0)

would set the background to black. 
(d-SetBackground #x00ff00) turns red and blue off etc.
There is a Denemo procedure to get a color from the user, too. (d-
SelectColor) which returns a list of r, g and b values in range 0.0-1.0
that would need converting to use with d-SetBackground.

HTH

Richard




Re: Shortcuts text colour and Command Center window problems on Puppy Linux

2020-03-03 Thread Lib Lists
On Tue, 3 Mar 2020 at 17:34, Richard Shann  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2020-03-03 at 15:31 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 20:55, Lib Lists  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 14:48, Richard Shann  > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 14:18 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 12:08, Richard Shann  > > > > .com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 19:51 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > > The color of the keyboard shortcuts is hard wired,
> > > > > > > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > > see from your picture that it doesn't work well with
> > > > > > > > > > themes
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > use a
> > > > > > > > > > dark background with light colored lettering. The
> > > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > > background
> > > > > > > > > > color
> > > > > > > > > > and the color of the labels in the menus is not hard-
> > > > > > > > > > wired
> > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > Denemo
> > > > > > > > > > however, so theming should work for them. I've not
> > > > > > > > > > explored
> > > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > > themes
> > > > > > > > > > can be chosen under Gtk though so I can't really go
> > > > > > > > > > beyond
> > > > > > > > > > saying
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > should work :( Do other Gtk-based applications change
> > > > > > > > > > appropriately
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > that virtual machine?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi, just tested with Abiword
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > is that a Gtk based program (or Qt for example)?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes it's a Gtk program.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and the background color of pop-up menus in Abiword changes
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > change theme but does not in Denemo?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry my mistake, Abiword behaves like Denemo i.e. only the
> > > > > title bar
> > > > > changes, while the menus don't. However, Gnumeric works well.
> > > > > After
> > > > > some research it seems that the installed version of Abiword is
> > > > > a
> > > > > Gtk3
> > > > > program, while Gnumeric (version 1.10.17) is a Gtk2 program.
> > > >
> > > > You can build Denemo against Gtk2 but there are some features
> > > > that are
> > > > not so good. IIRC Gtk3 has switched to using cascading style
> > > > sheets (or
> > > > some such terminology) where you can specify the style of things
> > > > at an
> > > > extremely granular level - Denemo is exploiting this internally,
> > > > e.g.
> > > > to paint the background of the frames differently for the
> > > > different
> > > > types of Denemo Directive in the Score/Movement/Staff/etc
> > > > editors.
> > > > Ideally this would be done by providing a style sheet with Denemo
> > > > that
> > > > the user could then adjust, but, as I say, I haven't delved so
> > > > deeply
> > > > into how that would work.
> > > > I think the installed Gtk3 libraries that you have will include a
> > > > variety of styles and something to specify the default, so, short
> > > > of
> > > > finding a Gtk3 theme chooser program you could directly alter
> > > > that
> > > > default (probably by putting the choice in some .config file in
> > > > your
> > > > home directory).
> > >
> > > Hi Richard,
> > > thank you for your suggestion! I'll give it a try and report.
> >
> > Hi,
> > I tried to modify various gtk3 .css files but didn't succeed.
> > However,
> > I noticed that in Abiword's menus the keyboard shortcuts are light
> > grey and not dark blue as in Denemo. Otherwise the menu colours are
> > exactly the same. Could it be that in Denemo the shortcut colour
> > number is hardcoded?
>
> it is - I mentioned this earlier (first sentence above!)

Hi, oops, I completely skipped that sentence, sorry about that.
>
> >
> > Talking about colours, is it possible to modify the background colour
> > of both the editing
> >  and print view windows?
>
> The "editing window" that is, the Denemo Display, can have its color
> set from Scheme - I forget the syntax, ask if you need it - while the
> Print View is (IIRC) just the default i.e. theme-able.

It'd be nice to be able change the background colour of the Denemo Display.

>
> >
> > Finally, I just noticed that in the version compiled by myself syntax
> > highlighting
>
> LilyPond syntax highlighting?

Yes

>
> >  doesn't work, while it works in the appimage downloaded
> > from Denemo website. Any hint?
> The Gtk widget involved is GtkSourceView which has refers to a file
> containing the syntax highlighting rules
> do you get this warning
>
> g_warning ("No syntax highlighting for LilyPond");

Yes, exactly, that's the message I get.
Thanks!

>
> the code doing this stuff is in src/export/exportlilypond.c if that
> helps.
>
> HTH
>
> Richard
>



Re: Shortcuts text colour and Command Center window problems on Puppy Linux

2020-03-03 Thread Richard Shann
On Tue, 2020-03-03 at 15:31 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 20:55, Lib Lists  wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 14:48, Richard Shann  > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 14:18 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 12:08, Richard Shann  > > > .com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 19:51 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > > The color of the keyboard shortcuts is hard wired,
> > > > > > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > see from your picture that it doesn't work well with
> > > > > > > > > themes
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > use a
> > > > > > > > > dark background with light colored lettering. The
> > > > > > > > > menu
> > > > > > > > > background
> > > > > > > > > color
> > > > > > > > > and the color of the labels in the menus is not hard-
> > > > > > > > > wired
> > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > Denemo
> > > > > > > > > however, so theming should work for them. I've not
> > > > > > > > > explored
> > > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > > themes
> > > > > > > > > can be chosen under Gtk though so I can't really go
> > > > > > > > > beyond
> > > > > > > > > saying
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > should work :( Do other Gtk-based applications change
> > > > > > > > > appropriately
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > that virtual machine?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hi, just tested with Abiword
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > is that a Gtk based program (or Qt for example)?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yes it's a Gtk program.
> > > > > 
> > > > > and the background color of pop-up menus in Abiword changes
> > > > > when
> > > > > you
> > > > > change theme but does not in Denemo?
> > > > 
> > > > Sorry my mistake, Abiword behaves like Denemo i.e. only the
> > > > title bar
> > > > changes, while the menus don't. However, Gnumeric works well.
> > > > After
> > > > some research it seems that the installed version of Abiword is
> > > > a
> > > > Gtk3
> > > > program, while Gnumeric (version 1.10.17) is a Gtk2 program.
> > > 
> > > You can build Denemo against Gtk2 but there are some features
> > > that are
> > > not so good. IIRC Gtk3 has switched to using cascading style
> > > sheets (or
> > > some such terminology) where you can specify the style of things
> > > at an
> > > extremely granular level - Denemo is exploiting this internally,
> > > e.g.
> > > to paint the background of the frames differently for the
> > > different
> > > types of Denemo Directive in the Score/Movement/Staff/etc
> > > editors.
> > > Ideally this would be done by providing a style sheet with Denemo
> > > that
> > > the user could then adjust, but, as I say, I haven't delved so
> > > deeply
> > > into how that would work.
> > > I think the installed Gtk3 libraries that you have will include a
> > > variety of styles and something to specify the default, so, short
> > > of
> > > finding a Gtk3 theme chooser program you could directly alter
> > > that
> > > default (probably by putting the choice in some .config file in
> > > your
> > > home directory).
> > 
> > Hi Richard,
> > thank you for your suggestion! I'll give it a try and report.
> 
> Hi,
> I tried to modify various gtk3 .css files but didn't succeed.
> However,
> I noticed that in Abiword's menus the keyboard shortcuts are light
> grey and not dark blue as in Denemo. Otherwise the menu colours are
> exactly the same. Could it be that in Denemo the shortcut colour
> number is hardcoded?

it is - I mentioned this earlier (first sentence above!)

> 
> Talking about colours, is it possible to modify the background colour
> of both the editing
>  and print view windows?

The "editing window" that is, the Denemo Display, can have its color
set from Scheme - I forget the syntax, ask if you need it - while the
Print View is (IIRC) just the default i.e. theme-able.

> 
> Finally, I just noticed that in the version compiled by myself syntax
> highlighting

LilyPond syntax highlighting?

>  doesn't work, while it works in the appimage downloaded
> from Denemo website. Any hint?
The Gtk widget involved is GtkSourceView which has refers to a file
containing the syntax highlighting rules
do you get this warning

g_warning ("No syntax highlighting for LilyPond");

the code doing this stuff is in src/export/exportlilypond.c if that
helps.

HTH

Richard




Re: Shortcuts text colour and Command Center window problems on Puppy Linux

2020-03-03 Thread Lib Lists
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 20:55, Lib Lists  wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 14:48, Richard Shann  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2020-03-02 at 14:18 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 12:08, Richard Shann 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 2020-02-29 at 19:51 +0200, Lib Lists wrote:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > > > > > > The color of the keyboard shortcuts is hard wired,
> > > > > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > see from your picture that it doesn't work well with themes
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > use a
> > > > > > > > dark background with light colored lettering. The menu
> > > > > > > > background
> > > > > > > > color
> > > > > > > > and the color of the labels in the menus is not hard-wired
> > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > Denemo
> > > > > > > > however, so theming should work for them. I've not explored
> > > > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > themes
> > > > > > > > can be chosen under Gtk though so I can't really go beyond
> > > > > > > > saying
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > should work :( Do other Gtk-based applications change
> > > > > > > > appropriately
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > that virtual machine?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi, just tested with Abiword
> > > > > >
> > > > > > is that a Gtk based program (or Qt for example)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes it's a Gtk program.
> > > >
> > > > and the background color of pop-up menus in Abiword changes when
> > > > you
> > > > change theme but does not in Denemo?
> > >
> > > Sorry my mistake, Abiword behaves like Denemo i.e. only the title bar
> > > changes, while the menus don't. However, Gnumeric works well. After
> > > some research it seems that the installed version of Abiword is a
> > > Gtk3
> > > program, while Gnumeric (version 1.10.17) is a Gtk2 program.
> >
> > You can build Denemo against Gtk2 but there are some features that are
> > not so good. IIRC Gtk3 has switched to using cascading style sheets (or
> > some such terminology) where you can specify the style of things at an
> > extremely granular level - Denemo is exploiting this internally, e.g.
> > to paint the background of the frames differently for the different
> > types of Denemo Directive in the Score/Movement/Staff/etc editors.
> > Ideally this would be done by providing a style sheet with Denemo that
> > the user could then adjust, but, as I say, I haven't delved so deeply
> > into how that would work.
> > I think the installed Gtk3 libraries that you have will include a
> > variety of styles and something to specify the default, so, short of
> > finding a Gtk3 theme chooser program you could directly alter that
> > default (probably by putting the choice in some .config file in your
> > home directory).
>
> Hi Richard,
> thank you for your suggestion! I'll give it a try and report.

Hi,
I tried to modify various gtk3 .css files but didn't succeed. However,
I noticed that in Abiword's menus the keyboard shortcuts are light
grey and not dark blue as in Denemo. Otherwise the menu colours are
exactly the same. Could it be that in Denemo the shortcut colour
number is hardcoded?

Talking about colours, is it possible to modify the background colour
of both the editing and print view windows?

Finally, I just noticed that in the version compiled by myself syntax
highlighting doesn't work, while it works in the appimage downloaded
from Denemo website. Any hint?

Thanks!
>
> lib
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >