Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?
I would just like to counter what Eyal Rosenberg says. Version number should be a marketing decision. But I agree with his points that marketing must consider that major innovations or missing features should be included with a major number change otherwise said number change will fall flat. The number 8 is a great opportunity so it shouldn't be wasted without having something impactful when it is launched. Regina Henschel escreveu no dia terça, 28/03/2023 à(s) 15:40: > Hi Italo, > > the change from 6.x to 7.0 happens together with the change from ODF 1.2 > to ODF 1.3. If the decision it to keep this kind of numbering, I think a > change to 8.0 should happen when LibreOffice starts support for ODF 1.4. > ODF 1.4 will hopefully be released end of 2024. > > Kind regards, > Regina > > Italo Vignoli schrieb am 27.03.2023 um 19:11: > > Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing > > purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in > > the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is > > that we are forever stuck at 7.x. > > > > We all know that the next version will not include any significant > > innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new > > build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm > > processors on Windows (which has not been announced). > > > > Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the > > "infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an > > infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all > > operating systems for personal productivity. > > > > This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't > > insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the > > marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I > > am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on > > the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a > > very short memory). > > > > Looking forward to your thoughts. > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?
Hi Italo, the change from 6.x to 7.0 happens together with the change from ODF 1.2 to ODF 1.3. If the decision it to keep this kind of numbering, I think a change to 8.0 should happen when LibreOffice starts support for ODF 1.4. ODF 1.4 will hopefully be released end of 2024. Kind regards, Regina Italo Vignoli schrieb am 27.03.2023 um 19:11: Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is that we are forever stuck at 7.x. We all know that the next version will not include any significant innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm processors on Windows (which has not been announced). Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the "infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all operating systems for personal productivity. This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a very short memory). Looking forward to your thoughts. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?
* Italo Vignoli (it...@libreoffice.org) wrote: > Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing purposes, > as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in the open source > office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is that we are forever > stuck at 7.x. > > We all know that the next version will not include any significant > innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new build > system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm processors on > Windows (which has not been announced). Some time ago, I suggested some cleanups (replacement of sal_Int* types by their standardised versions). Someone pointed out at the time it wasn't possible because it would be an API break, but perhaps we could do it on a major version bump. This was when 7.x was young. So, I'm saying if you are going to bump the major version, it would benefit from some planning ahead rather than a last minute number change so that any other incompatibilities people want to tidy up can be put in. (Irrespective of whether people like my particular change suggestion) Dave > Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the "infinite" > symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an infinite number > of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all operating systems for > personal productivity. > > This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't > insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the > marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I am > not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on the > "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a very > short memory). > > Looking forward to your thoughts. > -- > Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR > mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org > hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 > -- -Open up your eyes, open up your mind, open up your code --- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert| Running GNU/Linux | Happy \ \dave @ treblig.org | | In Hex / \ _|_ http://www.treblig.org |___/ -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-design] Re: Moving to LibreOffice 8?
For little that I am involved with LibreOffice itself, I feel like this would be nice move - You can take this as a non-formal feedback of the casual user public: +1 for 8.0, even without a lot of remarkable changes. On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 2:11 PM Italo Vignoli wrote: > Moving to LibreOffice 8 (instead of 7.6) makes sense for marketing > purposes, as media is looking at LibreOffice as the real innovator in > the open source office suite market, and the feeling of journalists is > that we are forever stuck at 7.x. > > We all know that the next version will not include any significant > innovation which can justify the change of version, apart from the new > build system for Windows and the availability of LibreOffice for Arm > processors on Windows (which has not been announced). > > Playing with the number 8, which can be rotated 90° to become the > "infinite" symbol, we can frame the next version as LibreOffice for an > infinite number of users, as we cover all hardware platforms and all > operating systems for personal productivity. > > This is my opinion. If the community wants to stick with 7.6, I won't > insist. I have received enough insults both public and private for the > marketing plan, and I am still receiving them from a few people, that I > am not willing to enter into that process again (even if the decision on > the "community" tag has not been mine, but it looks like people have a > very short memory). > > Looking forward to your thoughts. > -- > Italo Vignoli - LibreOffice Marketing & PR > mobile/signal +39.348.5653829 - email it...@libreoffice.org > hangout/jabber italo.vign...@gmail.com > GPG Key ID - 0xAAB8D5C0 > DB75 1534 3FD0 EA5F 56B5 FDA6 DE82 934C AAB8 D5C0 > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: design+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
