Re: [ISSUE] - bin/activemq.bat for Windows users
I agree. Putting too much in the activemq unix start script was an oversight and led to some bugs and inconsistencies we could have avoided. Regards -- Dejan Bosanac -- Red Hat, Inc. FuseSource is now part of Red Hat dbosa...@redhat.com Twitter: @dejanb Blog: http://sensatic.net ActiveMQ in Action: http://www.manning.com/snyder/ On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Hiram Chirino wrote: > I kinda wish that both activemq unix script and activemq were simple > start activemq in the foreground scripts. Starting activemq as a > service/background is different on Windows and Linux/Unix so that > should done using other extra files etc. > > For example we could have a bin/activemq-service script for unix that > handles doing the init.d unix stuff: 'activemq-service start' > 'activemq-service stop' etc. > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Claus Ibsen > wrote: > > Thanks > > > > So I assume it would be okay to remove the start from the > > activemq.bat, and have Windows users start the broker as we do unix. > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Gary Tully > wrote: > >> I think part of the reason is that only the unix scripts got an update > >> via https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2453 > >> > >> consistency is good and simpler from a doc perspective. > >> > >> On 13 November 2013 12:21, Claus Ibsen wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> I was looking at ticket > >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3101 > >>> > >>> > >>> I wonder why starting ActiveMQ on windows and unix is different, > according to > >>> > http://activemq.apache.org/version-5-getting-started.html#Version5GettingStarted-StartingActiveMQ > >>> > >>> On windows we tell users to do > >>>bin\activemq > >>> > >>> And on unix > >>>bin/activemq start > >>> > >>> eg on unix you pass in the start command. > >>> > >>> I would prefer that on Windows you should pass on the command as well > such as > >>>bin\activemq start > >>> > >>> Otherwise you cannot get the help syntax by just using bin/activemq > >>> > >>> Usage: Main [--extdir ] [task] [task-options] [task data] > >>> > >>> Tasks: > >>> browse - Display selected messages in a > >>> specified destination. > >>> bstat- Performs a predefined query that > >>> displays useful statistics regarding the specified broker > >>> create - Creates a runnable broker instance in > >>> the specified path. > >>> decrypt - Decrypts given text > >>> dstat- Performs a predefined query that > >>> displays useful tabular statistics regarding the specified destination > >>> type > >>> encrypt - Encrypts given text > >>> export - Exports a stopped brokers data files to > >>> an archive file > >>> list - Lists all available brokers in the > >>> specified JMX context > >>> purge- Delete selected destination's messages > >>> that matches the message selector > >>> query- Display selected broker component's > >>> attributes and statistics. > >>> start- Creates and starts a broker using a > >>> configuration file, or a broker URI. > >>> stop - Stops a running broker specified by the > >>> broker name. > >>> > >>> > >>> So I would if we should change this for Windows in the activemq.bat > >>> file, to not have the "start" command in there. So its consistent with > >>> unix. > >>> > >>> And also fixes AMQ-3101 > >>> > >>> > >>> Anyone know any reason about the "start" in the bin/activemq.bat file? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Claus Ibsen > >>> - > >>> Red Hat, Inc. > >>> Email: cib...@redhat.com > >>> Twitter: davsclaus > >>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com > >>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> http://redhat.com > >> http://blog.garytully.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Claus Ibsen > > - > > Red Hat, Inc. > > Email: cib...@redhat.com > > Twitter: davsclaus > > Blog: http://davsclaus.com > > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen > > > > -- > Hiram Chirino > > Engineering | Red Hat, Inc. > > hchir...@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com > > skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino > > blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo >
Re: [ISSUE] - bin/activemq.bat for Windows users
I kinda wish that both activemq unix script and activemq were simple start activemq in the foreground scripts. Starting activemq as a service/background is different on Windows and Linux/Unix so that should done using other extra files etc. For example we could have a bin/activemq-service script for unix that handles doing the init.d unix stuff: 'activemq-service start' 'activemq-service stop' etc. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: > Thanks > > So I assume it would be okay to remove the start from the > activemq.bat, and have Windows users start the broker as we do unix. > > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Gary Tully wrote: >> I think part of the reason is that only the unix scripts got an update >> via https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2453 >> >> consistency is good and simpler from a doc perspective. >> >> On 13 November 2013 12:21, Claus Ibsen wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I was looking at ticket >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3101 >>> >>> >>> I wonder why starting ActiveMQ on windows and unix is different, according >>> to >>> http://activemq.apache.org/version-5-getting-started.html#Version5GettingStarted-StartingActiveMQ >>> >>> On windows we tell users to do >>>bin\activemq >>> >>> And on unix >>>bin/activemq start >>> >>> eg on unix you pass in the start command. >>> >>> I would prefer that on Windows you should pass on the command as well such >>> as >>>bin\activemq start >>> >>> Otherwise you cannot get the help syntax by just using bin/activemq >>> >>> Usage: Main [--extdir ] [task] [task-options] [task data] >>> >>> Tasks: >>> browse - Display selected messages in a >>> specified destination. >>> bstat- Performs a predefined query that >>> displays useful statistics regarding the specified broker >>> create - Creates a runnable broker instance in >>> the specified path. >>> decrypt - Decrypts given text >>> dstat- Performs a predefined query that >>> displays useful tabular statistics regarding the specified destination >>> type >>> encrypt - Encrypts given text >>> export - Exports a stopped brokers data files to >>> an archive file >>> list - Lists all available brokers in the >>> specified JMX context >>> purge- Delete selected destination's messages >>> that matches the message selector >>> query- Display selected broker component's >>> attributes and statistics. >>> start- Creates and starts a broker using a >>> configuration file, or a broker URI. >>> stop - Stops a running broker specified by the >>> broker name. >>> >>> >>> So I would if we should change this for Windows in the activemq.bat >>> file, to not have the "start" command in there. So its consistent with >>> unix. >>> >>> And also fixes AMQ-3101 >>> >>> >>> Anyone know any reason about the "start" in the bin/activemq.bat file? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Claus Ibsen >>> - >>> Red Hat, Inc. >>> Email: cib...@redhat.com >>> Twitter: davsclaus >>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen >> >> >> >> -- >> http://redhat.com >> http://blog.garytully.com > > > > -- > Claus Ibsen > - > Red Hat, Inc. > Email: cib...@redhat.com > Twitter: davsclaus > Blog: http://davsclaus.com > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen -- Hiram Chirino Engineering | Red Hat, Inc. hchir...@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino blog: Hiram Chirino's Bit Mojo
Re: [ISSUE] - bin/activemq.bat for Windows users
Thanks So I assume it would be okay to remove the start from the activemq.bat, and have Windows users start the broker as we do unix. On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Gary Tully wrote: > I think part of the reason is that only the unix scripts got an update > via https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2453 > > consistency is good and simpler from a doc perspective. > > On 13 November 2013 12:21, Claus Ibsen wrote: >> Hi >> >> I was looking at ticket >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3101 >> >> >> I wonder why starting ActiveMQ on windows and unix is different, according to >> http://activemq.apache.org/version-5-getting-started.html#Version5GettingStarted-StartingActiveMQ >> >> On windows we tell users to do >>bin\activemq >> >> And on unix >>bin/activemq start >> >> eg on unix you pass in the start command. >> >> I would prefer that on Windows you should pass on the command as well such as >>bin\activemq start >> >> Otherwise you cannot get the help syntax by just using bin/activemq >> >> Usage: Main [--extdir ] [task] [task-options] [task data] >> >> Tasks: >> browse - Display selected messages in a >> specified destination. >> bstat- Performs a predefined query that >> displays useful statistics regarding the specified broker >> create - Creates a runnable broker instance in >> the specified path. >> decrypt - Decrypts given text >> dstat- Performs a predefined query that >> displays useful tabular statistics regarding the specified destination >> type >> encrypt - Encrypts given text >> export - Exports a stopped brokers data files to >> an archive file >> list - Lists all available brokers in the >> specified JMX context >> purge- Delete selected destination's messages >> that matches the message selector >> query- Display selected broker component's >> attributes and statistics. >> start- Creates and starts a broker using a >> configuration file, or a broker URI. >> stop - Stops a running broker specified by the >> broker name. >> >> >> So I would if we should change this for Windows in the activemq.bat >> file, to not have the "start" command in there. So its consistent with >> unix. >> >> And also fixes AMQ-3101 >> >> >> Anyone know any reason about the "start" in the bin/activemq.bat file? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Claus Ibsen >> - >> Red Hat, Inc. >> Email: cib...@redhat.com >> Twitter: davsclaus >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen > > > > -- > http://redhat.com > http://blog.garytully.com -- Claus Ibsen - Red Hat, Inc. Email: cib...@redhat.com Twitter: davsclaus Blog: http://davsclaus.com Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
Re: [ISSUE] - bin/activemq.bat for Windows users
I think part of the reason is that only the unix scripts got an update via https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-2453 consistency is good and simpler from a doc perspective. On 13 November 2013 12:21, Claus Ibsen wrote: > Hi > > I was looking at ticket > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3101 > > > I wonder why starting ActiveMQ on windows and unix is different, according to > http://activemq.apache.org/version-5-getting-started.html#Version5GettingStarted-StartingActiveMQ > > On windows we tell users to do >bin\activemq > > And on unix >bin/activemq start > > eg on unix you pass in the start command. > > I would prefer that on Windows you should pass on the command as well such as >bin\activemq start > > Otherwise you cannot get the help syntax by just using bin/activemq > > Usage: Main [--extdir ] [task] [task-options] [task data] > > Tasks: > browse - Display selected messages in a > specified destination. > bstat- Performs a predefined query that > displays useful statistics regarding the specified broker > create - Creates a runnable broker instance in > the specified path. > decrypt - Decrypts given text > dstat- Performs a predefined query that > displays useful tabular statistics regarding the specified destination > type > encrypt - Encrypts given text > export - Exports a stopped brokers data files to > an archive file > list - Lists all available brokers in the > specified JMX context > purge- Delete selected destination's messages > that matches the message selector > query- Display selected broker component's > attributes and statistics. > start- Creates and starts a broker using a > configuration file, or a broker URI. > stop - Stops a running broker specified by the > broker name. > > > So I would if we should change this for Windows in the activemq.bat > file, to not have the "start" command in there. So its consistent with > unix. > > And also fixes AMQ-3101 > > > Anyone know any reason about the "start" in the bin/activemq.bat file? > > > > > > -- > Claus Ibsen > - > Red Hat, Inc. > Email: cib...@redhat.com > Twitter: davsclaus > Blog: http://davsclaus.com > Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen -- http://redhat.com http://blog.garytully.com
[ISSUE] - bin/activemq.bat for Windows users
Hi I was looking at ticket https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-3101 I wonder why starting ActiveMQ on windows and unix is different, according to http://activemq.apache.org/version-5-getting-started.html#Version5GettingStarted-StartingActiveMQ On windows we tell users to do bin\activemq And on unix bin/activemq start eg on unix you pass in the start command. I would prefer that on Windows you should pass on the command as well such as bin\activemq start Otherwise you cannot get the help syntax by just using bin/activemq Usage: Main [--extdir ] [task] [task-options] [task data] Tasks: browse - Display selected messages in a specified destination. bstat- Performs a predefined query that displays useful statistics regarding the specified broker create - Creates a runnable broker instance in the specified path. decrypt - Decrypts given text dstat- Performs a predefined query that displays useful tabular statistics regarding the specified destination type encrypt - Encrypts given text export - Exports a stopped brokers data files to an archive file list - Lists all available brokers in the specified JMX context purge- Delete selected destination's messages that matches the message selector query- Display selected broker component's attributes and statistics. start- Creates and starts a broker using a configuration file, or a broker URI. stop - Stops a running broker specified by the broker name. So I would if we should change this for Windows in the activemq.bat file, to not have the "start" command in there. So its consistent with unix. And also fixes AMQ-3101 Anyone know any reason about the "start" in the bin/activemq.bat file? -- Claus Ibsen - Red Hat, Inc. Email: cib...@redhat.com Twitter: davsclaus Blog: http://davsclaus.com Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
