[JIRA] Created: (FOR-493) site: protocol fails in tabs

2005-05-07 Thread issues
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Key: FOR-493
Summary: site: protocol fails in tabs
   Type: Bug

 Status: Unassigned
   Priority: Minor

Project: Forrest
 Components: 
 Core operations
   Versions:
 0.7-dev

   Assignee: 
   Reporter: Ross Gardler

Created: Sat, 7 May 2005 3:55 AM
Updated: Sat, 7 May 2005 3:55 AM

Description:
Whilst it is legal to have an external link in tabs this canot be achieved with 
the site: protocol.


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Re: Forrest sites google ranking

2005-05-07 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
I just noticed that the changes in the Forrest site have resulted in a 
complete loss of our google ranking. That is we currently have a rank of 
n/a. Prior to the redirects we had a very healthy 7.

Since our redirect will change every time we release a new version this 
loss of ranking will happen with each release.

Of course, the Google engine still has the old indexes and these links 
will be redirected when the user arrives. My concern is that over time 
we will suffer because of this.

I think we need to change the website so that we have an index.html page 
that is consitent through all releases. However, I do not claim to fully 
understand the Google ranking algorithm, so please correct me if I am wrong.

I wonder if we just need to use AliasMatch directives
for apache httpd rather than the RedirectMatch that we are
currently using.
I'm no httpd whizz, nor google whizz for that matter, but if the
AliasMatch means that the URL still appears, in the client, as
http://forrest.apache.org then I think this will work.
Ross


Re: SVN Inconsitent Line Endings

2005-05-07 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
I presume that this does not happen when you do 'forrest' to
build the plugin's docs, rather than doing 'ant docs'.
I had also assumed that, however it turns our to be incorrect.
In fact doing forrest site on any site, including site-author, results 
in the same error.

I can only assume that it has not raised it's head before because I have 
not been the first person to commit generated sites to SVN with the eol 
settings set to native.

Sorry, i can't parse that. Too many nots. :-)
All text files should have line-endings appropriate for the local system
OS and should always be 'svn propset svn:eol-style native'.
Sorry, I'll try again, but I'll try by asking a couple of questions
rather than stating what I think the problem might be.
Has anyone built a site using Forrest on Windows and then been the first
to commit it to SVN?
Do we know for sure that the Ant SVN tasks pick up the SVN config info?
Given the above observation that the XSL generated comments ahve 
different line endings to other XSL generated files I can only assume it 
is something to do with the XSLT parser.

What happens when you do a simple test with Xalan on the commandline.
Not sure, I'll do that soon.
For now I have put a workaround in place in the buildfile (uses an ant 
task to fix the line endings). I'll also place an issue on the issue 
tracker to remind us of this.

I saw that. However i couldn't understand why it was converting
them to UNIX line-endings regardless of which OS the user is on.
Do we need to detect the OS?
I converted to UNIX more out of habit than design. But it works for me
and I'm on Windows so I'm happy.
I have not heard of this problem before. At Cocoon and Incubator,
people on various operating systems generate the website and commit
the result to SVN, with no problems.
Yes, but they don't do what we are doing with docs generated by Forrest
and then imported into SVN by ant tasks.
Ross



Re: SVN Inconsitent Line Endings

2005-05-07 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
 Ross Gardler wrote:
 David Crossley wrote:
 
 I presume that this does not happen when you do 'forrest' to
 build the plugin's docs, rather than doing 'ant docs'.
 
 I had also assumed that, however it turns our to be incorrect.
 
 In fact doing forrest site on any site, including site-author, results 
 in the same error.
 
 I can only assume that it has not raised it's head before because I have 
 not been the first person to commit generated sites to SVN with the eol 
 settings set to native.
 
 Sorry, i can't parse that. Too many nots. :-)
 
 All text files should have line-endings appropriate for the local system
 OS and should always be 'svn propset svn:eol-style native'.
 
 Sorry, I'll try again, but I'll try by asking a couple of questions
 rather than stating what I think the problem might be.

I am finally beginning to understand what your issues are.
I thought you just had a problem with mixed line-endings,
but it sounds a bigger problem and perhaps separate issues.

 Has anyone built a site using Forrest on Windows and then been the first
 to commit it to SVN?

 Do we know for sure that the Ant SVN tasks pick up the SVN config info?

I just reviewed our SVN forrest/site/0.7/docs/plugins/
and found that there are files with *.rss and *.pod
which are missing the 'svn:eol-style native'. So perhaps
your ~/.subversion/config is out-of-date.
http://www.apache.org/dev/version-control.html
http://www.apache.org/dev/svn-eol-style.txt

To test if the Ant task gets the new config,
try 'svn rm' one of the plugins and re-add it.

Those *.rss and *.pod are also not handled by the workaround
below. However, they don't need to be, because there are no
mixed line-endings in those (no xml comments either).

 Given the above observation that the XSL generated comments ahve 
 different line endings to other XSL generated files I can only assume it 
 is something to do with the XSLT parser.
 
 What happens when you do a simple test with Xalan on the commandline.
 
 Not sure, I'll do that soon.
 
 For now I have put a workaround in place in the buildfile (uses an ant 
 task to fix the line endings). I'll also place an issue on the issue 
 tracker to remind us of this.
 
 I saw that. However i couldn't understand why it was converting
 them to UNIX line-endings regardless of which OS the user is on.
 Do we need to detect the OS?
 
 I converted to UNIX more out of habit than design. But it works for me
 and I'm on Windows so I'm happy.

My comment was more an SVN-based one:
eol-style native means native to the user's OS.

 I have not heard of this problem before. At Cocoon and Incubator,
 people on various operating systems generate the website and commit
 the result to SVN, with no problems.
 
 Yes, but they don't do what we are doing with docs generated by Forrest
 and then imported into SVN by ant tasks.

Now i understand the issue a bit more. Sorry, i must have
missed something earlier in the thread.

I don't know if this is related, but thanks Google and mail-archive.com:
line endings xsl:comment ...
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/XALANJ-656
xsl:copy introduces inappropriate line-end characters processing comments.

--David