Re: [Dev] What are these new "INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder" logs at start up
Changed to debug logs in r178694.
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama <
jeewan...@wso2.com> wrote:
> That's a change done by Oleg to print the certificate information in the
> keyStore.
>
> 162829 oleg@wso2. for (X509Certificate
> cert: certs) {
> 162829 oleg@wso2. log.info(name + "
> Subject DN: " + cert.getSubjectDN());
> 162829 oleg@wso2. log.info(name + "
> Issuer DN: " + cert.getIssuerDN());
> 162829 oleg@wso2. }
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Suresh Attanayaka wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Nirodha Pramod wrote:
>>
>>> So whats the importance of having them in the startup log? we haven;t
>>> seen these logs in previous releases.
>>>
>>
>> I think they should be debug logs.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama <
>>> jeewan...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>
These logs are printed when SSLContext is made when initializing
Passthru or NHttp transport listeners.
Jeewantha.
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Suresh Attanayaka wrote:
> Hi,
>
> These seems come from Synapse. May be Kasun or Jeewantha knows.
>
> Thanks,
> -Suresh
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nirodha Pramod wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What are these following INFO logs which can be seen at server
>> startup of 4.2.0 packs. Seems like related to keystores. However these
>> occur only in API-M and ESB packs, (not in IS, AS, GReg)
>>
>> [2013-07-19 11:21:53,943] INFO - TomcatGenericWebappsDeployer
>> Deployed webapp:
>> StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost[localhost].StandardContext[/STRATOS_ROOT].File[/home/nirodha/WSO2/Carbon4/4.2.0/19July/packs/wso2am-1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/repository/deployment/server/webapps/STRATOS_ROOT]
>> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,084] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS
>> Loading Identity Keystore from :
>> repository/resources/security/wso2carbon.jks
>> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,097] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS
>> Subject DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US
>> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS
>> Issuer DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US
>> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS
>> Loading Trust Keystore from :
>> repository/resources/security/client-truststore.jks
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Nirodha
>>
>> --
>> *
>> *
>> *Nirodha Gallage*
>> Senior Software Engineer, QA.
>> WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/
>> Mobile: +94716429078
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Suresh Attanayake
> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/
> Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/
> Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/
> Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld
> Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt
> LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt
> Mobile : +94755012060
> Mobile : +01-616-617-1172
>
--
Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama
Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/
Phone : (+94) 774726790
Skype : prasad.jeewantha
LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeewanthad
Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeewamp
Blog: http://jeewanthad.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Nirodha Gallage*
>>> Senior Software Engineer, QA.
>>> WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/
>>> Mobile: +94716429078
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Suresh Attanayake
>> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/
>> Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/
>> Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/
>> Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld
>> Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt
>> LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt
>> Mobile : +94755012060
>> Mobile : +01-616-617-1172
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama
> Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/
> Phone : (+94) 774726790
> Skype : prasad.jeewantha
> LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeewanthad
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeewamp
> Blog: http://jeewanthad.blogspot.com/
>
--
Suresh Attanayake
Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/
Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/
Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld
Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt
LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt
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Re: [Dev] What are these new "INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder" logs at start up
That's a change done by Oleg to print the certificate information in the
keyStore.
162829 oleg@wso2. for (X509Certificate
cert: certs) {
162829 oleg@wso2. log.info(name + "
Subject DN: " + cert.getSubjectDN());
162829 oleg@wso2. log.info(name + "
Issuer DN: " + cert.getIssuerDN());
162829 oleg@wso2. }
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Suresh Attanayaka wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Nirodha Pramod wrote:
>
>> So whats the importance of having them in the startup log? we haven;t
>> seen these logs in previous releases.
>>
>
> I think they should be debug logs.
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama <
>> jeewan...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>
>>> These logs are printed when SSLContext is made when initializing
>>> Passthru or NHttp transport listeners.
>>> Jeewantha.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Suresh Attanayaka wrote:
>>>
Hi,
These seems come from Synapse. May be Kasun or Jeewantha knows.
Thanks,
-Suresh
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nirodha Pramod wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What are these following INFO logs which can be seen at server startup
> of 4.2.0 packs. Seems like related to keystores. However these occur only
> in API-M and ESB packs, (not in IS, AS, GReg)
>
> [2013-07-19 11:21:53,943] INFO - TomcatGenericWebappsDeployer
> Deployed webapp:
> StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost[localhost].StandardContext[/STRATOS_ROOT].File[/home/nirodha/WSO2/Carbon4/4.2.0/19July/packs/wso2am-1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/repository/deployment/server/webapps/STRATOS_ROOT]
> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,084] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS
> Loading Identity Keystore from :
> repository/resources/security/wso2carbon.jks
> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,097] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS
> Subject DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US
> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS
> Issuer DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US
> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS
> Loading Trust Keystore from :
> repository/resources/security/client-truststore.jks
>
> Thanks,
> Nirodha
>
> --
> *
> *
> *Nirodha Gallage*
> Senior Software Engineer, QA.
> WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/
> Mobile: +94716429078
>
--
Suresh Attanayake
Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/
Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/
Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld
Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt
LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt
Mobile : +94755012060
Mobile : +01-616-617-1172
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama
>>> Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/
>>> Phone : (+94) 774726790
>>> Skype : prasad.jeewantha
>>> LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeewanthad
>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeewamp
>>> Blog: http://jeewanthad.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *
>> *
>> *Nirodha Gallage*
>> Senior Software Engineer, QA.
>> WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/
>> Mobile: +94716429078
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Suresh Attanayake
> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/
> Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/
> Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/
> Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld
> Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt
> LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt
> Mobile : +94755012060
> Mobile : +01-616-617-1172
>
--
Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama
Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/
Phone : (+94) 774726790
Skype : prasad.jeewantha
LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeewanthad
Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeewamp
Blog: http://jeewanthad.blogspot.com/
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Re: [Dev] What are these new "INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder" logs at start up
Hi, On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Nirodha Pramod wrote: > So whats the importance of having them in the startup log? we haven;t seen > these logs in previous releases. > I think they should be debug logs. > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama < > jeewan...@wso2.com> wrote: > >> These logs are printed when SSLContext is made when initializing Passthru >> or NHttp transport listeners. >> Jeewantha. >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Suresh Attanayaka wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> These seems come from Synapse. May be Kasun or Jeewantha knows. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Suresh >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nirodha Pramod wrote: >>> Hi, What are these following INFO logs which can be seen at server startup of 4.2.0 packs. Seems like related to keystores. However these occur only in API-M and ESB packs, (not in IS, AS, GReg) [2013-07-19 11:21:53,943] INFO - TomcatGenericWebappsDeployer Deployed webapp: StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost[localhost].StandardContext[/STRATOS_ROOT].File[/home/nirodha/WSO2/Carbon4/4.2.0/19July/packs/wso2am-1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/repository/deployment/server/webapps/STRATOS_ROOT] [2013-07-19 11:21:54,084] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading Identity Keystore from : repository/resources/security/wso2carbon.jks [2013-07-19 11:21:54,097] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Subject DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Issuer DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading Trust Keystore from : repository/resources/security/client-truststore.jks Thanks, Nirodha -- * * *Nirodha Gallage* Senior Software Engineer, QA. WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/ Mobile: +94716429078 >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Suresh Attanayake >>> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/ >>> Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/ >>> Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/ >>> Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld >>> Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt >>> LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt >>> Mobile : +94755012060 >>> Mobile : +01-616-617-1172 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama >> Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ >> Phone : (+94) 774726790 >> Skype : prasad.jeewantha >> LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeewanthad >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeewamp >> Blog: http://jeewanthad.blogspot.com/ >> > > > > -- > * > * > *Nirodha Gallage* > Senior Software Engineer, QA. > WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/ > Mobile: +94716429078 > -- Suresh Attanayake Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/ Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/ Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/ Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt Mobile : +94755012060 Mobile : +01-616-617-1172 ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] What are these new "INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder" logs at start up
So whats the importance of having them in the startup log? we haven;t seen these logs in previous releases. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama < jeewan...@wso2.com> wrote: > These logs are printed when SSLContext is made when initializing Passthru > or NHttp transport listeners. > Jeewantha. > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Suresh Attanayaka wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> These seems come from Synapse. May be Kasun or Jeewantha knows. >> >> Thanks, >> -Suresh >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nirodha Pramod wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What are these following INFO logs which can be seen at server startup >>> of 4.2.0 packs. Seems like related to keystores. However these occur only >>> in API-M and ESB packs, (not in IS, AS, GReg) >>> >>> [2013-07-19 11:21:53,943] INFO - TomcatGenericWebappsDeployer Deployed >>> webapp: >>> StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost[localhost].StandardContext[/STRATOS_ROOT].File[/home/nirodha/WSO2/Carbon4/4.2.0/19July/packs/wso2am-1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/repository/deployment/server/webapps/STRATOS_ROOT] >>> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,084] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading >>> Identity Keystore from : repository/resources/security/wso2carbon.jks >>> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,097] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Subject >>> DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US >>> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Issuer >>> DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US >>> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading >>> Trust Keystore from : repository/resources/security/client-truststore.jks >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Nirodha >>> >>> -- >>> * >>> * >>> *Nirodha Gallage* >>> Senior Software Engineer, QA. >>> WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/ >>> Mobile: +94716429078 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Suresh Attanayake >> Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/ >> Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/ >> Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/ >> Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld >> Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt >> LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt >> Mobile : +94755012060 >> Mobile : +01-616-617-1172 >> > > > > -- > Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama > Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ > Phone : (+94) 774726790 > Skype : prasad.jeewantha > LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeewanthad > Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeewamp > Blog: http://jeewanthad.blogspot.com/ > -- * * *Nirodha Gallage* Senior Software Engineer, QA. WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/ Mobile: +94716429078 ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] What are these new "INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder" logs at start up
These logs are printed when SSLContext is made when initializing Passthru or NHttp transport listeners. Jeewantha. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Suresh Attanayaka wrote: > Hi, > > These seems come from Synapse. May be Kasun or Jeewantha knows. > > Thanks, > -Suresh > > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nirodha Pramod wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> What are these following INFO logs which can be seen at server startup of >> 4.2.0 packs. Seems like related to keystores. However these occur only in >> API-M and ESB packs, (not in IS, AS, GReg) >> >> [2013-07-19 11:21:53,943] INFO - TomcatGenericWebappsDeployer Deployed >> webapp: >> StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost[localhost].StandardContext[/STRATOS_ROOT].File[/home/nirodha/WSO2/Carbon4/4.2.0/19July/packs/wso2am-1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/repository/deployment/server/webapps/STRATOS_ROOT] >> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,084] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading >> Identity Keystore from : repository/resources/security/wso2carbon.jks >> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,097] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Subject >> DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US >> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Issuer >> DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US >> [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading >> Trust Keystore from : repository/resources/security/client-truststore.jks >> >> Thanks, >> Nirodha >> >> -- >> * >> * >> *Nirodha Gallage* >> Senior Software Engineer, QA. >> WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/ >> Mobile: +94716429078 >> > > > > -- > Suresh Attanayake > Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/ > Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/ > Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/ > Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld > Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt > LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt > Mobile : +94755012060 > Mobile : +01-616-617-1172 > -- Jeewantha Dharmaparakrama Software Engineer; WSO2, Inc.; http://wso2.com/ Phone : (+94) 774726790 Skype : prasad.jeewantha LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeewanthad Twitter: https://twitter.com/jeewamp Blog: http://jeewanthad.blogspot.com/ ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] What are these new "INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder" logs at start up
Hi, These seems come from Synapse. May be Kasun or Jeewantha knows. Thanks, -Suresh On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Nirodha Pramod wrote: > Hi, > > What are these following INFO logs which can be seen at server startup of > 4.2.0 packs. Seems like related to keystores. However these occur only in > API-M and ESB packs, (not in IS, AS, GReg) > > [2013-07-19 11:21:53,943] INFO - TomcatGenericWebappsDeployer Deployed > webapp: > StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost[localhost].StandardContext[/STRATOS_ROOT].File[/home/nirodha/WSO2/Carbon4/4.2.0/19July/packs/wso2am-1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/repository/deployment/server/webapps/STRATOS_ROOT] > [2013-07-19 11:21:54,084] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading > Identity Keystore from : repository/resources/security/wso2carbon.jks > [2013-07-19 11:21:54,097] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Subject > DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US > [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Issuer > DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US > [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading > Trust Keystore from : repository/resources/security/client-truststore.jks > > Thanks, > Nirodha > > -- > * > * > *Nirodha Gallage* > Senior Software Engineer, QA. > WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/ > Mobile: +94716429078 > -- Suresh Attanayake Senior Software Engineer; WSO2 Inc. http://wso2.com/ Blog : http://sureshatt.blogspot.com/ Web : http://www.ssoarcade.com/ Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/IdentityWorld Twitter : https://twitter.com/sureshatt LinkedIn : http://lk.linkedin.com/in/sureshatt Mobile : +94755012060 Mobile : +01-616-617-1172 ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
[Dev] What are these new "INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder" logs at start up
Hi, What are these following INFO logs which can be seen at server startup of 4.2.0 packs. Seems like related to keystores. However these occur only in API-M and ESB packs, (not in IS, AS, GReg) [2013-07-19 11:21:53,943] INFO - TomcatGenericWebappsDeployer Deployed webapp: StandardEngine[Catalina].StandardHost[localhost].StandardContext[/STRATOS_ROOT].File[/home/nirodha/WSO2/Carbon4/4.2.0/19July/packs/wso2am-1.4.0-SNAPSHOT/repository/deployment/server/webapps/STRATOS_ROOT] [2013-07-19 11:21:54,084] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading Identity Keystore from : repository/resources/security/wso2carbon.jks [2013-07-19 11:21:54,097] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Subject DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Issuer DN: CN=localhost, O=WSO2, L=Mountain View, ST=CA, C=US [2013-07-19 11:21:54,098] INFO - ServerConnFactoryBuilder HTTPS Loading Trust Keystore from : repository/resources/security/client-truststore.jks Thanks, Nirodha -- * * *Nirodha Gallage* Senior Software Engineer, QA. WSO2 Inc.: http://wso2.com/ Mobile: +94716429078 ___ Dev mailing list Dev@wso2.org http://wso2.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dev
