Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Rodd Clarkson
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> Thanks to everyone for their testing, it's greatly appreciated. Based on
> the positive response here and on forums, we spun a new RC of the beta
> with the -24 kernel included, so now if you still want to help testing,
> please test that. See
> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2010-April/61.html 
> .

Now that testing of f-13-beta rc#5 has commenced, shouldn't this kernel
have appeared as an update through yum?


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gtkmm24 updates to F13 (was Re: What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13)

2010-04-07 Thread Denis Leroy
On 04/07/2010 09:35 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:37:25 +0200, Denis wrote:
>
>> On 04/07/2010 08:30 AM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote:
>>> Denis Leroy wrote, at 04/07/2010 03:20 PM +9:00:
 On 03/08/2010 04:37 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> The buildroots are populated from packages in the:
>
> dist-f13
> dist-f13-override
> dist-f12-updates
>
> tags.  If a package isn't in one of those tags, it's not going to be in 
> the
> buildroot.  If you need to build against a newer version of a package, 
> then you
> need to file a ticket on the rel-eng trac instance asking for a buildroot
> override (which will get it tagged into dist-f13-override).

 Sorry to revive this old thread, but does this imply that one cannot use
 'make chain-build' for F-13 updates then ?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>
>> Thanks Mamoru-san,
>>
>> Well, this is not the most motivating news.
>
> How easy is it for releng to create a custom buildroot/tag, which
> could be used instead of working with an override tag?

Yikes, I'm pretty stumped. How can we deal with such a burdensome 
process for something that is not even released yet ? Unfortunately I do 
not have the spare time nor the patience to go through with it, I will 
have to pass the buck on this. Heck I can't even create scratch builds 
for my own testing.

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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 10:27:03PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 05:14:32PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> 
> > What would be the correct way to enable synclient support? I didn't find
> > any documentation so had to go poking to figure out the "right" thing.
> 
> Don't use synclient. Use xinput.

synclient uses the same backend approach as xinput does and it is "safe" to
use. It uses device properties since 1.1 (F-12)by default and the
commandline-option to force the use of SHM was removed in 1.2 (F-12).
In F12, Jon's option has zero effect on the use of synclient.

xinput is IMO too generic to be really user-friendly, especially since you
still need to figure out what property to trigger. Similar options may be
bunched together in one property so you need to make sure you don't
overwrite the other options.
As an example, to set one-finger tapping you need to run:
xinput --set-prop "Synaptics Touchpad" "Synaptics Tap Actions" 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
substituting the zeros with whatever value was there before to avoid
changing another option.

With synclient, the same is 
synclient TapButton1=1

In both cases, the request sent to the server is identical, or should be
anyway. I recommend the use of synclient to users testing the driver for
that reason, xinput is the generic swiss property knife.

Jon:
there's a synaptics configuration tab in system-preferences-mouse for
the most common settings including the option to turn tapping on or off (off
should actually be the default, not sure why it wasn't on your box).

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F-13-Beta Go/No-Go Meeting #2 @ 2010-04-08 00:00 UTC Recap

2010-04-07 Thread James Laska
Greetings,

Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to
review whether the Fedora 13 Beta release criteria [1] have been met.
The team agreed that the Beta criteria *have* been met with
F-13-Beta-RC5.  For additional details, please refer to the attached
minutes.

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria

#fedora-meeting: F-13-Beta engineering readiness meeting



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* Waiting for critical mass  (jlaska, 00:01:59)

* Why are we here?  (jlaska, 00:07:20)
  * The purpose is to decide whether the beta has met the release
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  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria
(jlaska, 00:07:30)

* Go or No Go?  (jlaska, 00:10:30)
  * AGREED: The Beta release criteria have been met with F-13-Beta-RC5
(jlaska, 00:20:51)

* What's next?  (jlaska, 00:21:55)
  * adamw removing bug#579739 from F13Beta  (jlaska, 00:22:22)
  * RelEng will begin staging to mirrors starting Thu Apr 8  (jlaska,
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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 10:27:42PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:18:37PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Matthew Garrett  wrote:
> > > Never, ever, ever do this. Ever. Configure synaptics using xinput.
> > 
> > Can we just patch this out of the driver and let it print a warning
> > when someone sets the option?
> 
> Very possible. I'll talk to Peter.

SHM configuration was removed last April and these days SHM is only used for
monitoring the hardware state if needed. 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-input-synaptics/commit/?id=c09a3d50e995302ec08c5d5f8c679148613e1656
is the last commit in that series.

Cheers,
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Re: vga_switcharoo

2010-04-07 Thread Mail Lists
On 04/07/2010 08:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 20:10 -0400, Mail Lists wrote:
>> On 04/07/2010 01:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ah, wasn't aware of that. Thanks.
>>
>>  Also I think without the switcheroo the power consumption may be a lot
>> higher (rumor- is that true ?) - lowering power consumption on the
>> unused card may be helpful too ...
> 
> Well, I would think that if you boot with the Intel adapter active, it
> wouldn't power up the NVIDIA one. But I'm just guessing :)

  I guessed the same, until google found claims to the contrary '-)

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Re: vga_switcharoo

2010-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 20:10 -0400, Mail Lists wrote:
> On 04/07/2010 01:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Ah, wasn't aware of that. Thanks.
> 
>  Also I think without the switcheroo the power consumption may be a lot
> higher (rumor- is that true ?) - lowering power consumption on the
> unused card may be helpful too ...

Well, I would think that if you boot with the Intel adapter active, it
wouldn't power up the NVIDIA one. But I'm just guessing :)
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Re: vga_switcharoo

2010-04-07 Thread Mail Lists
On 04/07/2010 01:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:

> 
> Ah, wasn't aware of that. Thanks.

 Also I think without the switcheroo the power consumption may be a lot
higher (rumor- is that true ?) - lowering power consumption on the
unused card may be helpful too ...

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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:30 +0200, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote:
> On Mi, 2010-04-07 at 09:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> [...]
> > Thanks to everyone for their testing, it's greatly appreciated. Based on
> > the positive response here and on forums, we spun a new RC of the beta
> > with the -24 kernel included, so now if you still want to help testing,
> > please test that. See
> > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2010-April/61.html
> >  .
> 
> Kernel 2.6.33.1-19 and -24 do _not_ really work for me. I hadn't had the
> time to file a proper bug report but since no one screamed here an now,
> I will have to do so ;-)

If -19 didn't work for you, we actually care less, strange as that may
seem. Mostly this was about making sure -24 has no regressions compared
to -19.

> Sorry for this quick and dirty bug report. Hopefully I will find some
> time during the weekend. Otherwise, hope this helps.

Please file a regular report, or this won't get followed up.
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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:27 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 05:14:32PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> 
> > What would be the correct way to enable synclient support? I didn't find
> > any documentation so had to go poking to figure out the "right" thing.
> 
> Don't use synclient. Use xinput.

I know how to use list-props to view various properties, but I can't see
e.g. how to set the button tap and click properties on this device from
the list of properties returned - what am I missing?

btw, the HAL fdi policy file I created was based upon a boilerplate
version already shipping with HAL in F12. That would probably also need
removing if it isn't already gone in rawhide.

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License change: lilyterm

2010-04-07 Thread Christoph Wickert
lilyterm changed it#s license from BSD to GPLv3+ in 0.9.8.

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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 11:18:37PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Matthew Garrett  wrote:
> > Never, ever, ever do this. Ever. Configure synaptics using xinput.
> 
> Can we just patch this out of the driver and let it print a warning
> when someone sets the option?

Very possible. I'll talk to Peter.
 
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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 05:14:32PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:

> What would be the correct way to enable synclient support? I didn't find
> any documentation so had to go poking to figure out the "right" thing.

Don't use synclient. Use xinput.

> I only just found all of these issues. I'll file some bugs later.

Please file bugs before posting workarounds. It means there's a much 
better chance of these issues not perpetuating.

> I agree. I'm not interested in perpetuating anything, however I am
> interested in a Macbook being useful right now rather than in 6 or 12
> months from now. Therefore I'll take some horrible VT hack for suspend,
> and I'll live with a kludged up mouse driver that actually works for me.
> I wanted to share some instructions for those who can't figure this out
> but nonetheless do buy a Macbook and want to run Fedora with it today.

With the exception of the closed driver requirements, I'm unaware of any 
reason why these issues wouldn't be fixed within a week. Encouraging 
others to utilise these workarounds perpetuates the implication that 
they're necessary, reducing the probability that anyone will ever get 
around to filing a bug and things getting fixed. Search Google and 
you'll find thousands of pages where people describe their workarounds, 
in many cases for issues that never get dealt with properly because 
people have their itch scratched and can't be bothered reporting the 
problem. This hurts the people who then have to continue applying their 
workarounds every cycle, and hurts the people who won't even bother 
trying to find workarounds or file bugs when things don't just work out 
of the box.

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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread drago01
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:14 PM, Jon Masters  wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 15:06 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:12:53AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>>
>> >     synaptics
>> >         > > type="string">On
>>
>> Never, ever, ever do this. Ever. Configure synaptics using xinput.
>
> What would be the correct way to enable synclient support? I didn't find
> any documentation so had to go poking to figure out the "right" thing.

It is very easy ... it just works with a new enough driver / xserver (i.e F-12+)
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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread drago01
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Matthew Garrett  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:12:53AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>
>>       synaptics
>>         > type="string">On
>
> Never, ever, ever do this. Ever. Configure synaptics using xinput.

Can we just patch this out of the driver and let it print a warning
when someone sets the option?
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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 15:06 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:12:53AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> 
> > synaptics
> >  > type="string">On
> 
> Never, ever, ever do this. Ever. Configure synaptics using xinput.

What would be the correct way to enable synclient support? I didn't find
any documentation so had to go poking to figure out the "right" thing.

> Beyond that, I can't find bugs filed from you on any of the "It doesn't 
> work" issues.

I only just found all of these issues. I'll file some bugs later.

> It's not acceptable for users to have to remove packages, run scripts or 
> manually change VTs in order for this to work, and perpetuating these 
> workarounds in locations that are likely to encoruage others to do the 
> same just means that it's less likely we'll ever fix the underlying 
> problem.

I agree. I'm not interested in perpetuating anything, however I am
interested in a Macbook being useful right now rather than in 6 or 12
months from now. Therefore I'll take some horrible VT hack for suspend,
and I'll live with a kludged up mouse driver that actually works for me.
I wanted to share some instructions for those who can't figure this out
but nonetheless do buy a Macbook and want to run Fedora with it today.

Also, I repartitioned part of it earlier in order to keep a small
staging (F13) and rawhide around. I'll try the latest bits and give an
update on what works - I don't mind being a guinea pig and rebooting to
test, but I'm not running rawhide as my regular desktop experience ;)

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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Jon Masters
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 20:08 +0300, Debarshi Ray wrote:
> > 7). The webcam isn't working out of the box and nor is bluetooth. There
> > are instructions online covering these.
> 
> Are you talking about isight-firmware-tools [1]? I orphaned it
> sometime ago but no one picked it up.

Yea. Upstream doesn't support pulling out the firmware from the current
OSX driver here anyway. I believe I have a newer iSight on this system.
But it's lower on my priority list than even full multitouch gesture
support is (which is already about as low as possible - drag and drop is
all I want to do, with a horrible hack if necessary, as I have) since
I'll only use it to make a small number of video calls.

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ideas for Summer Coding deadline moved to 14 April

2010-04-07 Thread Karsten Wade
In today's SIG meeting we finalized the Summer Coding 2010 schedule,
and that included adding more time for ideas to be listed for
students.

The new deadline is next Wed. 14 April. We are inviting students to
begin working on proposals starting today, with those due on 21 April.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_Coding_2010_schedule

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_Coding_2010_ideas

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F-13 Branched report: 20100407 changes

2010-04-07 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Apr  7 09:15:04 UTC 2010

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Re: vga_switcharoo

2010-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 13:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 18:11 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:14:09AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > 
> > > FWIW, I figure the support is currently reasonably useless for NVIDIA
> > > chips, as there's nothing for which nouveau-on-NVIDIA is actually faster
> > > than intel-on-Intel in Linux, AFAIK. So aside from going 'ooh, it works,
> > > shiny', there's no actual reason to switch to the NVIDIA chip, even if
> > > you can make it fly. I don't believe you can use the feature with the
> > > NVIDIA proprietary driver.
> > 
> > The only obvious reason is to be able to use displayport, since the 
> > switching implementation conveniently "borrows" some pins on the Intel 
> > gpu that are otherwise required for it.
> 
> Any digital output at all, in fact.

Ah, wasn't aware of that. Thanks.
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Re: geos soname bump in F-12 updates

2010-04-07 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Orion Poplawski  wrote:
> Looks like the geos update for F-12 bumped the soname:
> python-basemap-0:0.99.2-6.fc12.i686

Sigh thanks for the heads up. I'll push a rebuild now.


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Re: Two new applications to package and add to Fedora

2010-04-07 Thread Damian Brasher
Rahul Sundaram wrote:

> On 04/07/2010 06:02 PM, Damian Brasher wrote:
>> I have coded two projects (beta1 and beta2) that I would like to package
>> and add to Fedora (extras?).
>
> There is no "extras" repository since Fedora 7 release.

Thought not, was thinking equivalent of.

>> 1) DIASER (2005-2010) - Long-term geo-redundancy archiving software [for
>> the cloud] written in Perl.
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/

My mistake,

http://sourceforge.net/projects/diaser/

not dspaceinvaders for both:)

>> Where do I start?
>
> Here:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers
>
> If you have questions, feel free to ask.
>
> Rahul

Thank you, I will,

Damian

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Re: Two new applications to package and add to Fedora

2010-04-07 Thread Damian Brasher
Stephen Gallagher wrote:

> On 04/07/2010 08:32 AM, Damian Brasher wrote:
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/

My mistake

https://sourceforge.net/projects/diaser/

not dspaceinvaders for both:)

>> 2) DSI (2001-2010) - Pristine (code) Space Invaders clone written in C
>> and
>> recently revived for fun and to support DIASER.
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/
>>
>> Where do I start?

> Follow the package review process for Fedora described here:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process

Okay

> Welcome to Fedora!

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Re: vga_switcharoo

2010-04-07 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 18:11 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:14:09AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> 
> > FWIW, I figure the support is currently reasonably useless for NVIDIA
> > chips, as there's nothing for which nouveau-on-NVIDIA is actually faster
> > than intel-on-Intel in Linux, AFAIK. So aside from going 'ooh, it works,
> > shiny', there's no actual reason to switch to the NVIDIA chip, even if
> > you can make it fly. I don't believe you can use the feature with the
> > NVIDIA proprietary driver.
> 
> The only obvious reason is to be able to use displayport, since the 
> switching implementation conveniently "borrows" some pins on the Intel 
> gpu that are otherwise required for it.

Any digital output at all, in fact.

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Re: vga_switcharoo

2010-04-07 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:14:09AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> FWIW, I figure the support is currently reasonably useless for NVIDIA
> chips, as there's nothing for which nouveau-on-NVIDIA is actually faster
> than intel-on-Intel in Linux, AFAIK. So aside from going 'ooh, it works,
> shiny', there's no actual reason to switch to the NVIDIA chip, even if
> you can make it fly. I don't believe you can use the feature with the
> NVIDIA proprietary driver.

The only obvious reason is to be able to use displayport, since the 
switching implementation conveniently "borrows" some pins on the Intel 
gpu that are otherwise required for it.

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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Debarshi Ray
> 7). The webcam isn't working out of the box and nor is bluetooth. There
> are instructions online covering these.

Are you talking about isight-firmware-tools [1]? I orphaned it
sometime ago but no one picked it up.

Cheers,
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[389-devel] Please review: Bug 572162 - the string "|*" within a search filter on a non-indexed attribute returns all elements.

2010-04-07 Thread Rich Megginson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572162

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=405023&action=diff

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Re: geos soname bump in F-12 updates

2010-04-07 Thread Rich Mattes
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote:

> Looks like the geos update for F-12 bumped the soname:
>
> --> Processing Dependency: libgeos-3.2.0.so for package:
> python-basemap-0.99.2-6.fc12.i686
> ---> Package geos.i686 0:3.2.1-1.fc12 set to be updated
> ---> Package geos-devel.i686 0:3.2.1-1.fc12 set to be updated
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
> Error: Package: python-basemap-0.99.2-6.fc12.i686 (@updates)
>Requires: libgeos-3.2.0.so
>Removing: geos-3.2.0-1.fc12.i686 (@updates)
>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
>
>
> # repoquery --whatrequires libgeos-3.2.0.so
> python-basemap-0:0.99.2-6.fc12.i686
> player-0:3.0.1-4.fc12.i686
>
> So it looks like python-basemap and player need to get rebuilt.
>
>
The soname got bumped in F-13 and devel too.  I rebuilt Player two days ago
and submitted it to updates-testing, but the request for F-12 is still
pending.

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geos soname bump in F-12 updates

2010-04-07 Thread Orion Poplawski
Looks like the geos update for F-12 bumped the soname:

--> Processing Dependency: libgeos-3.2.0.so for package: 
python-basemap-0.99.2-6.fc12.i686
---> Package geos.i686 0:3.2.1-1.fc12 set to be updated
---> Package geos-devel.i686 0:3.2.1-1.fc12 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: python-basemap-0.99.2-6.fc12.i686 (@updates)
Requires: libgeos-3.2.0.so
Removing: geos-3.2.0-1.fc12.i686 (@updates)
  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest


# repoquery --whatrequires libgeos-3.2.0.so
python-basemap-0:0.99.2-6.fc12.i686
player-0:3.0.1-4.fc12.i686

So it looks like python-basemap and player need to get rebuilt.

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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 14:53 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hi, everyone. We're looking at pulling kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13 into
> Fedora 13 Beta, quite late, because current Beta candidate builds
> include kernel-2.6.33.1-19.fc13 which is known to include a severe bug
> that breaks boot on systems with Broadcom wired ethernet adapters
> supported by the b44 module.
> 
> However, -24 has other changes from -19, including to the nouveau
> (NVIDIA graphics) and iwlwifi (Intel wifi) drivers. We really need as
> many people as possible to test kernel -24, which you can get at
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=164598 , and
> confirm that it works okay on your systems.
> 
> To install it, use 'rpm -ivh' for the kernel and -devel packages. If you
> have kernel-headers installed, 'rpm -Uvh' that first. Then reboot to the
> kernel and check that it boots up okay. Please reply to this thread with
> your results. Thanks!

Thanks to everyone for their testing, it's greatly appreciated. Based on
the positive response here and on forums, we spun a new RC of the beta
with the -24 kernel included, so now if you still want to help testing,
please test that. See
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test-announce/2010-April/61.html .
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Re: vga_switcharoo

2010-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-04-06 at 23:17 -0400, Mail Lists wrote:
> I just got an Asus UL30vt which has dual graphics (onbaord intel and
> nvidia) - I am aware of some work by Dave Airlie in this area -
> 
>  Anyone share the status of whether this might be usable (via cli or
> other) in f13 (or f12 for that matter!)
> 
>  Thanks!

FWIW, I figure the support is currently reasonably useless for NVIDIA
chips, as there's nothing for which nouveau-on-NVIDIA is actually faster
than intel-on-Intel in Linux, AFAIK. So aside from going 'ooh, it works,
shiny', there's no actual reason to switch to the NVIDIA chip, even if
you can make it fly. I don't believe you can use the feature with the
NVIDIA proprietary driver.
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rawhide report: 20100407 changes

2010-04-07 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Apr  7 08:15:03 UTC 2010

Broken deps for i386
--
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emotion-0.1.0.042-5.fc12.i686 requires libevas.so.0
emotion-0.1.0.042-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore.so.0
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enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore_txt.so.0
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enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore_con.so.0
enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libedbus.so.0
enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libevas.so.0
enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libehal.so.0
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enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libefreet.so.0
enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libedje.so.0
enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore_file.so.0
enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore_evas.so.0
enlightenment-0.16.999.050-5.fc12.i686 requires libefreet_mime.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_ipc.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_con.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libevas.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_fb.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_x.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libedje.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_file.so.0
epsilon-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_evas.so.0
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epsilon-xine-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_con.so.0
epsilon-xine-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libevas.so.0
epsilon-xine-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore.so.0
epsilon-xine-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_fb.so.0
epsilon-xine-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_x.so.0
epsilon-xine-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_file.so.0
epsilon-xine-0.3.0.012-9.fc12.i686 requires libecore_evas.so.0
evolution-couchdb-0.3.2-2.fc13.i686 requires libcouchdb-glib-1.0.so.1
ewl-0.5.2.042-12.fc12.i686 requires libecore_txt.so.0
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ewl-devel-0.5.2.042-12.fc12.i686 requires libecore_evas.so.0
hornsey-1.5.2-0.1.fc13.i686 requires libclutter-gst-0.10.so.0
3:koffice-filters-2.1.1-4.fc13.i686 requires libwv2.so.4
paperbox-0.4.4-2.fc12.i686 requires libtrackerclient.so.0
perl-Gtk2-MozEmbed-0.08-6.fc14.12.i686 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.2.2
rss-glx-0.9.1.p-2.fc13.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.2
rss-glx-0.9.1.p-2.fc13.i686 requires libMagickWand.so.2
rubygem-right_aws-1.10.0-3.fc14.noarch requires 
rubygem(right-http_connection) >= 0:1.2.4
rubygem-zoom-0.4.1-7.fc12.i686 requires libyaz.so.3
tellico-2.2-1.fc14.i686 requires libyaz.so.3
zikula-module-menutree-2.2-1.fc13.noarch requires zikula >= 0:1.2



Broken deps for x86_64
--
anaconda-14.3-1.fc14.x86_64 requires fcoe-utils >= 
0:1.0.12-3.20100323git
emotion-0.1.0.042-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore_job.so.0
emotion-0.1.0.042-5.fc12.i686 requires libevas.so.0
emotion-0.1.0.042-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore.so.0
emotion-0.1.0.042-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore_fb.so.0
emotion-0.1.0.042-5.fc12.i686 requires 

[389-devel] Please review: Bug 563513 - New replication -> No changelong configured-msg

2010-04-07 Thread Endi Sukma Dewata
Hi,

Please review the patch for this bug:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563513

Patch:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=404999&action=edit
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=404999&action=diff

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Re: [Xen-users] [ANNOUNCE] Xen 4.0.0 released

2010-04-07 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Keir Fraser  wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Xen 4.0.0 has now been released! New features include:
>  * blktap2 (VHD support, snapshot discs, ...)
>  * Remus live checkpointing and fault tolerance
>  * Page sharing and page-to-disc for HVM guests
>  * Transcendent memory (http://oss.oracle.com/projects/tmem/)
>
> More details available on the wiki:
>  http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/Xen4.0
>
> You can pick up the sources from the new 4.0 source repository:
>  http://xenbits.xensource.com/xen-4.0-testing.hg (tag 'RELEASE-4.0.0')
>
> Or download a source tarball:
>  http://www.xen.org/products/xen_source.html
>
> Thanks to everyone who contributed to this release effort!
>
>  -- Keir
>
>


I think the fedora-xen can be upgraded to the 4.0.0 now right ?



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Re: RPM packaging workshop example

2010-04-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/07/2010 04:59 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 04/07/2010 05:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> There is a small bug in the example:
>>
>> Instead of
>>
>> %find_lang %{name}
>> rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/info/dir
>>
>> this should be
>>
>> %find_lang %{name}
>> rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_infodir}/dir
>>
>
> Hmm.  The original example works.  Changing that and building the spec
> doesn't actually work.  Have you checked that?

You have
rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{infodir}/dir

in the Wiki.

It should be
rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_infodir}/dir

Note: %{_infodir} vs. %{infodir}

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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread John Reiser
On 04/07/2010 12:21 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:45:39 -0700 John Reiser wrote:
>> Then I did "rpm --erase" of -24 and "rpm --install" of -24, and the
>> message was: -
>> /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: line 289:  2334 Segmentation fault  (core
>> dumped)
>
> Is it reproducible if you run dracut by hand?:
> dracut -f -v /boot/initramfs-2.6.33.1-24.fc13.x86_64.img \
>   2.6.33.1-24.fc13.x86_64

Yes, the "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" is reproducible.

> Did abrt catch the segfault? If yes, did you post the report to
> Bugzilla?

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=580141

I had to look for the abrt report; there wasn't any icon displayed
in the Gnome desktop menu bar.  So I didn't see it yesterday,
and this report is from a re-run this morning.

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Re: RPM packaging workshop example

2010-04-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/07/2010 05:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> There is a small bug in the example:
>
> Instead of
>
> %find_lang %{name}
> rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/info/dir
>
> this should be
>
> %find_lang %{name}
> rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_infodir}/dir
>   

Hmm.  The original example works.  Changing that and building the spec
doesn't actually work.  Have you checked that?

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Re: review swap

2010-04-07 Thread Neil Horman
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:16:09AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> Neil Horman wrote:
> > Anyone interested in swapping reviews?  I'de like to get this put to bed:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570166
> > If someone has something they want reviewed, let me know.
> > Thanks!
> > Neil
> >
> >   
> I'll have a go.  I have 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569833 and 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575822 outstanding, take 
> your pick, if you like.
> 
I've grabbed 575822, thanks!
Neil

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Re: review swap

2010-04-07 Thread Jon Ciesla
Neil Horman wrote:
> Anyone interested in swapping reviews?  I'de like to get this put to bed:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570166
> If someone has something they want reviewed, let me know.
> Thanks!
> Neil
>
>   
I'll have a go.  I have 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569833 and 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575822 outstanding, take 
your pick, if you like.

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review swap

2010-04-07 Thread Neil Horman
Anyone interested in swapping reviews?  I'de like to get this put to bed:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570166
If someone has something they want reviewed, let me know.
Thanks!
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Re: Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 09:12:53AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:

>   synaptics
>  type="string">On

Never, ever, ever do this. Ever. Configure synaptics using xinput.

Beyond that, I can't find bugs filed from you on any of the "It doesn't 
work" issues. If anything that doesn't depend on non-free components we 
can't ship fails to work out of the box, please make sure it's filed. 
It's not acceptable for users to have to remove packages, run scripts or 
manually change VTs in order for this to work, and perpetuating these 
workarounds in locations that are likely to encoruage others to do the 
same just means that it's less likely we'll ever fix the underlying 
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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Aioanei Rares
Running ok here on my HP Pavilion dv9750ed lappy [dmesg attached]


dmesg
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[Test-Announce] F-13-Beta Go/No-Go Meeting #2 @ 2010-04-08 00:00 UTC (2010-04-07 @ 8pm EDT)

2010-04-07 Thread James Laska
# F-13-Beta Go/No-Go meeting
# Date: 2010-04-08
# Time: 00:00 UTC (tonight @ 20:00 EDT, 17:00 PDT)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net 

Before each public release Development, QA, and Release Engineering meet
to determine if the release criteria are met for a particular release.
This meeting is called the: Go/No-Go Meeting.  

Verifying that the Release criteria are met is the responsibility of the
QA Team.  Release Criteria are set for each public release and are found
at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria

For more details about this important meeting see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Engineering_Readiness_Meetings

To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-07 Thread Colin Walters
2010/4/6 Radek Vokál :
> Hi all,
>
>  I need few suggestions about this ..
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald
> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use
> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for
> dumpcap/wireshark.

Using PolicyKit instead of hardcoding a Unix group gives a lot more
flexibility to system administrators.   For example, in Fedora we
could interactively prompt for the root password by default.  Or we
could default to allowing "console users" auth.  Or require the user's
password.  Or in fact, allow it for a given Unix group.

Basically, you already have the privileged component/user session
separation, which is great, so the dumpcap program just needs to be
runnable as a DBus service, it could expose say an API to get a file
descriptor which gives a dump stream for a given interface.

Documentation lives at: http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/
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[Test-Announce] F-13-Beta RC#5 available for testing

2010-04-07 Thread James Laska
Greetings,

Fedora 13 Beta RC#5 is available for testing.  Beta RC#5 includes an
updated kernel to address F13Beta blocker bug#577463.  Comparisons
against RC#4 are available (i386 [1] and x86_64 [2]).  Once again,
thanks to Andre for creating the test results page and providing Delta
ISO's.

There isn't a lot of time until the go/no_go meeting this evening.
Please take a minute to install the live image and run through a few
tests in the matrix.  We are looking to identify issues that impact the
Beta release criteria [3].  Available tests are linked from the
following wiki pages:

  * Installation -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test
  * Desktop -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test

As always, feel free to discuss problems/issues with other testers on
#fedora-qa or t...@lists.fedoraproject.org.

Thanks,
James

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/0/0d/F-13-Beta-RC5-i386.repodiff
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/2/21/F-13-Beta-RC5-x86_64.repodiff
[3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Beta_Release_Criteria


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Re: Synaptics click and drag problems

2010-04-07 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 04:22:34PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:

> That would seem to do exactly what I wanted. I sent the author an email
> and will see if this still works with the recent driver (it should do).
> If so, then this would be a good candidate for reworking into upstream.

Please don't attempt to put this in the kernel. It's an entirely 
inappropriate place to do it. If you're interested in making this work, 
there's a woeful lack of manpower upstream - I'm sure your contributions 
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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-07 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com):
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 10:47:22PM +0200, Radek Vokál wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> >   I need few suggestions about this .. 
> > https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald 
> > Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use 
> > capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for 
> > dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other 
> > apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly 
> > I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something 
> > like following to %post
> > 
> > # groupadd -g wireshark
> > # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
> > # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
> > # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark
> 
> This is useful to avoid having setuid binary, but how will regular
> users get access to the wireshark group? Maybe through policykit?

The originally quoted URL also says:

# groupadd -g wireshark
# usermod -a -G wireshark gerald

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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Steven I Usdansky
Already running 2.6.33.1-26.fc13.i686 on my HP s3707c (AMD 5400+ 
Nvidia 9100 onboard) . No problems


  
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Re: Talking about live upgrade

2010-04-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:21 AM, Liang Suilong  wrote:
>  Will Live upgrade
> replace preupgrade?

No.

It's much less engineering work to fix the few bugs preupgrade has
than to make "live" upgrade reliable.
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Re: non-responsive maintainer: thomasvs

2010-04-07 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 08:53:10PM +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote:
> W dniu 06.04.2010 15:56, Thomas Vander Stichele pisze:
> > On Sat, 2010-04-03 at 20:10 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote:
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> it seems like thomasvs became unresponsive. I have filed a bug asking
> >> about python-twisted update [1] on 6th of February. It was then duped by
> >> a similar bug [2] on 23rd of March. I have also emailed Thomas on 26th
> >> of March. None of the queries met any response. Should I initiate the
> >> non-responsive maintainer process?
> > 
> > Hi Julian,
> > 
> > I'm still around, but a direct mail to me is the easiest way to get my
> > attention (as I suspect is the case for most developers).  I saw you did
> > two weeks ago asking about an update, but that's a different beast then
> > marking me as unresponsive :)
> > 
> > I think in general it would be good that when people want to initiate
> > the non-responsive maintainer process, they first of all mail the person
> > involved saying so.
> > 
> > For practical reasons contacting me over IRC doesn't always work since
> > I'm on three different machines regularly, and I only check bugzilla
> > stuff once a month relying on getting a mail or poke if something is
> > critical.
> > 
> > As for the issue at hand, Twisted is a complex beast to upgrade and
> > validate, so I sure could use help there! I see in the bug report you
> > made a list of current dependendants, we could divide them up and verify
> > them ?
> > 
> > Thomas
> > 
> Sorry if I acted to quickly, but the lack of response to my email made
> me afraid that you might be gone.
> Anyway, when it comes to the update, I'm happy to help. The total number
> of downstream packages dependent on twisted is 33. Should we expect
> breakage? Were there any API changes in twisted?
> I think we could start by dividing the list of the packages fifty-fifty,
> and check if they work at all. Then, I think it would be a good idea to
> bring maintainers into the loop since they actually know what the
> packages are supposed to do. The cleaned-up list follows below:
> 
> buildbot-0:0.7.12-1.fc12.noarch
> cnucnu-0:0-0.3.20100110.fc12.noarch
> desktopcouch-0:0.6.3-3.fc12.noarch
> elisa-base-0:0.5.35-2.fc12.noarch
> elisa-plugins-bad-0:0.5.35-2.fc12.noarch
> elisa-plugins-ugly-0:0.5.35-1.fc11.noarch
> entertainer-0:0.4.2-7.fc12.noarch
> flumotion-0:0.6.1-1.fc12.x86_64
> gadget-0:0.0.3-4.fc12.noarch
> itaka-0:0.2.2-1.fc12.noarch
> jabbim-0:0.5-0.12.svn20091030.fc12.noarch
> londonlaw-0:0.2.1-7.fc12.noarch
> nwsserver-0:2.0.0-1.fc12.noarch
> openxcap-0:1.1.2-1.fc12.noarch
> orbited-0:0.7.10-3.fc12.noarch
> poker-network-0:1.7.3-3.fc12.noarch
> postr-0:0.12.3-8.fc12.x86_64
> pyicq-t-0:0.8.1.5-5.fc12.noarch
> pyjigdo-0:0.4.0.1-2.fc12.noarch
> python-Coherence-0:0.6.4-1.fc12.noarch
> python-desktopcouch-0:0.6.3-3.fc12.noarch
> python-foolscap-0:0.4.2-3.fc12.noarch
> python-gnutls-0:1.1.9-1.fc12.x86_64
> python-morbid-0:0.8.7.3-1.fc12.noarch
> python-nevow-0:0.9.32-3.fc12.noarch
> python-pyrad-0:1.1-3.fc12.noarch
> python-sippy-0:1.0.1-1.fc12.noarch
> python-wokkel-0:0.6.3-1.fc12.noarch
> pyutil-0:1.6.1-4.fc12.noarch
> pywbem-0:0.7.0-3.fc12.noarch
> rhythmbox-upnp-0:0.12.5-8.fc12.x86_64
> supybot-0:0.83.4.1-2.fc12.noarch
> telepathy-sunshine-0:0.1.6-1.fc12.noarch

The python-mwlib package is dependent on twisted-core; will packages
like that one be affected too?

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Macbook Pro 13.3" (5,5) Fedora 12 notes

2010-04-07 Thread Jon Masters
Folks,

In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.

1). Installation proceeds normally. You may want to install rEFIt to
allow dual booting with Mac OS X, in which case Anaconda should oblige
by placing grub on the partition of your /boot partition. You then only
need to run gptsync by choosing the Partitioning Tool next boot.

I took my new Macbook apart and upgraded the disk to a 500GB model from
the tiny one it came with. They wanted a small fortune for a non 7200K
drive upgrade, so I laughed. My partitions are as follows:

1: EFI (hidden in OSX)
2: OSX (100GB)
3: Linux Boot (1GB)
4: Linux LVM (swap,root,100GB)
5: Shared (hfsplus,100GB)
6: Data (2ext4,200GB)

The first three partitions are mapped to the MBR style GRUB is looking
for following a gptsync within the EFI booter tool.

2). The new install has no networking because the 432b reversion part is
unsupported by the b43 Open Source driver (they are working on it). You
will need to download the "wl" driver from Broadcom. It won't load out
of the box because it can't see the device. For the moment, the
following hack in /usr/local/bin/wl_hack.sh (called from /etc/rc.local)
suffices to load (this is weird, seems the second load/unload results in
some ACPI power state change and the device will then show up randomly):

#!/bin/sh

# for some reason we don't see the bcm part unless we unload/reload
b43/wl.

modprobe b43
modprobe -r b43
modprobe wl
modprobe -r wl
modprobe b43
modprobe -r b43
modprobe wl

It may still drop off the network from time to time. An upstream driver
will be really helpful when that is available. I will need a backport of
a future stable wireless tree to 2.6.32 since I am not planning to
upgrade my X drivers for the incompatible ABI in future nouveau.

3). Sound won't work out of the box, but it will (including the
headphone detection) if you do the following:

rpm -e alsa-plugins-pulseaudio

Then alsamixer will show all of the channel options, which you should
set to 100% volume for now. The GNOME volume controls will now work. Add
"alsa-plugins-pulseaudio" to and exclude line /etc/yum.conf to prevent
it ever getting installed again. Also add "kernel" to that line while
you're at it if you'll be fixing the mouse in the next step. I like to
build my own kernels for Fedora so I generally forbid it installing.

4). Out of the box, the mouse experience is horrible. You may want to
create an xorg.conf file (using Xorg -configure), but there is a better
way to configure the mouse on recent systems. Place the following
in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/20thirdparty/10-synaptics.fdi:




  


synaptics
On
0
0



  


That will turn off the most annoying "TapButton" options and tell X to
start the synaptics touchpad driver with the ability to dynamically tune
the driver using a shared memory mechanism. This enables "synclient".

You need a fixed bcm5974 mouse driver (with the attached patch - cleaned
up version to follow) that correctly supports two finger click-and-drag.
I have modified an existing patch for 2.6.32 kernels and will post a
kmod in due course. With that patch enabled you won't need to turn off
the ClickButton support and can both drag and right/middle click.

5). The gnome-power-manager gets a little confused sometimes. Make sure
it is always showing at least (sometimes it doesn't notice the battery
even though that is showing in lshal, etc.):

gconftool-2 -s -t string /apps/gnome-power-manager/ui/icon_policy always

You will also need to chvt or similar to/from another VT on resume in
order for the display to wake up. The HAL scripts specifically disable
quirks in the case of KMS because they believe it will always work. I
have tried hacking up the low level /usr/libexec/scripts/linux/ bits but
that isn't working, so I need to find out what I am missing. For the
moment, I switch to/from another VT on resume.

6). The backlit keyboard and controls aren't showing up or working. I
can live without these until I get chance to figure that out.

7). The webcam isn't working out of the box and nor is bluetooth. There
are instructions online covering these.

Once I configured my themes, set SELinux to permissive, and made a few
other personal taste quirks, the experience so far isn't too bad.

Jon.

diff --git a/drivers/input/mouse/bcm5974.c b/drivers/input/mouse/bcm5974.c
index 0d1d334..5d5d2d0 100644
--- a/drivers/input/mouse/bcm5974.c
+++ b/drivers/input/mouse/bcm5974.c
@@ -96,6 +96,11 @@ static int debug = 1;
 module_param(debug, int, 0644);
 MODULE_PARM_DESC(debug, "Activate debugging output");
 
+/* constants used to distinguish two-finger-clicking and click-and-drag
+ * on touchpads with integrated button */
+#define TWO_FINGERS_MAX_DIST_SQR (4500 * 4500)
+#define MIN_THUMB_WIDTH 1300
+
 /* button data structure */
 struct bt_data {
 	u8 unknown1;		/* constant */
@@ -317,9 +322,15 @@ static int report_tp_state(struct bcm5974 *dev, int size)
 	const s

Re: RPM packaging workshop example

2010-04-07 Thread yersinia
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Rahul Sundaram  wrote:
> On 04/07/2010 05:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> There is a small bug in the example:
>>
>> Instead of
>>
>> %find_lang %{name}
>> rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/info/dir
>>
>> this should be
>>
>> %find_lang %{name}
>> rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_infodir}/dir
>>
>
> Someone else fixed it now.  Thanks.
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Re: Two new applications to package and add to Fedora

2010-04-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/07/2010 06:02 PM, Damian Brasher wrote:
> I have coded two projects (beta1 and beta2) that I would like to package
> and add to Fedora (extras?). 

There is no "extras" repository since Fedora 7 release. 

> I hope this archive this over several weeks
> and I (my company) will be the long-term maintainer.
>
> 1) DIASER (2005-2010) - Long-term geo-redundancy archiving software [for
> the cloud] written in Perl.
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/
>
> 2) DSI (2001-2010) - Pristine (code) Space Invaders clone written in C and
> recently revived for fun and to support DIASER.
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/
>
> Where do I start?
>   

Here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join_the_package_collection_maintainers

If you have questions, feel free to ask.

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Re: Two new applications to package and add to Fedora

2010-04-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
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> 
> I'm new to this list, a brief intro - I currently work for the University
> of Southampton (ECS) as a systems administrator / programmer and also
> run my small development company, Interlinux Ltd. See LinkedIn
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/dbrasher
> 
> 'to the chase:
> 
> I have coded two projects (beta1 and beta2) that I would like to package
> and add to Fedora (extras?). I hope this archive this over several weeks
> and I (my company) will be the long-term maintainer.
> 
> 1) DIASER (2005-2010) - Long-term geo-redundancy archiving software [for
> the cloud] written in Perl.
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/
> 
> 2) DSI (2001-2010) - Pristine (code) Space Invaders clone written in C and
> recently revived for fun and to support DIASER.
> 
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/
> 
> Where do I start?
> 
> TIA - Damian
> 


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Two new applications to package and add to Fedora

2010-04-07 Thread Damian Brasher
Hi List

I'm new to this list, a brief intro - I currently work for the University
of Southampton (ECS) as a systems administrator / programmer and also run
my small development company, Interlinux Ltd. See LinkedIn
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dbrasher

'to the chase:

I have coded two projects (beta1 and beta2) that I would like to package
and add to Fedora (extras?). I hope this archive this over several weeks
and I (my company) will be the long-term maintainer.

1) DIASER (2005-2010) - Long-term geo-redundancy archiving software [for
the cloud] written in Perl.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/diaser/

2) DSI (2001-2010) - Pristine (code) Space Invaders clone written in C and
recently revived for fun and to support DIASER.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/

Where do I start?

TIA - Damian

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Two new applications to package and add to Fedora

2010-04-07 Thread Damian Brasher
Hi List

I'm new to this list, a brief intro - I currently work for the University
of Southampton (ECS) as a systems administrator / programmer and also
run my small development company, Interlinux Ltd. See LinkedIn
http://www.linkedin.com/in/dbrasher

'to the chase:

I have coded two projects (beta1 and beta2) that I would like to package
and add to Fedora (extras?). I hope this archive this over several weeks
and I (my company) will be the long-term maintainer.

1) DIASER (2005-2010) - Long-term geo-redundancy archiving software [for
the cloud] written in Perl.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/

2) DSI (2001-2010) - Pristine (code) Space Invaders clone written in C and
recently revived for fun and to support DIASER.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/dspaceinvadors/

Where do I start?

TIA - Damian

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Re: RPM packaging workshop example

2010-04-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 04/07/2010 05:37 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> There is a small bug in the example:
>
> Instead of
>
> %find_lang %{name}
> rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/info/dir
>
> this should be
>
> %find_lang %{name}
> rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_infodir}/dir
>   

Someone else fixed it now.  Thanks.

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Talking about live upgrade

2010-04-07 Thread Liang Suilong
Hi, all

Several days ago, I wrote an article about upgrading. Many users meets the
same problem. Also Casey Dahlin gives me a lot of advices. Maybe devel list
is fit for a border discuss about upgrade experience. Will Live upgrade
replace preupgrade?

Now we can not get access to my blog because of censorship in China. I will
solve it in several days. Please wait for moments.

I paste my article at Fpaste:  http://fpaste.org/tTLC/

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Re: RPM packaging workshop example

2010-04-07 Thread devzero2000
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Ralf Corsepius  wrote:
> There is a small bug in the example:

Corrected.

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Re: RPM packaging workshop example

2010-04-07 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/07/2010 01:50 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 03/29/2010 03:55 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:43:23 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>>
>>> For the purpose of doing a RPM packaging workshop, I need a simple
>>> clear hello world type example using autotools. Can anyone point me to
>>> something suitable for the purpose?
>>>
>> You mean GNU hello? :-)
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/
>>
>
> A tutorial is available at
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/A_Short_RPM_Tutorial
>
> Thanks to Przemek Klosowski for writing it.

There is a small bug in the example:

Instead of

%find_lang %{name}
rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/info/dir

this should be

%find_lang %{name}
rm -f $RPM_BUILD_ROOT%{_infodir}/dir


Background: The example uses %configure
i.e. it passes --infodir=%{_infodir} to configure,
i.e. it's %{_infodir} where "dir" is being installed,
not "/usr/share/info"

Ralf
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Re: RPM packaging workshop example

2010-04-07 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/29/2010 03:55 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:43:23 +0530 Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>   
>> For the purpose of doing a RPM packaging workshop, I need a simple
>> clear hello world type example using autotools. Can anyone point me to
>> something suitable for the purpose?
>> 
> You mean GNU hello? :-)
> http://www.gnu.org/software/hello/
>   

A tutorial is available at

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/A_Short_RPM_Tutorial

Thanks to Przemek Klosowski for writing it.

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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13 works for me (amd64 system with nvidia chipset).

Regards,

Hans


On 04/06/2010 11:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hi, everyone. We're looking at pulling kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13 into
> Fedora 13 Beta, quite late, because current Beta candidate builds
> include kernel-2.6.33.1-19.fc13 which is known to include a severe bug
> that breaks boot on systems with Broadcom wired ethernet adapters
> supported by the b44 module.
>
> However, -24 has other changes from -19, including to the nouveau
> (NVIDIA graphics) and iwlwifi (Intel wifi) drivers. We really need as
> many people as possible to test kernel -24, which you can get at
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=164598 , and
> confirm that it works okay on your systems.
>
> To install it, use 'rpm -ivh' for the kernel and -devel packages. If you
> have kernel-headers installed, 'rpm -Uvh' that first. Then reboot to the
> kernel and check that it boots up okay. Please reply to this thread with
> your results. Thanks!
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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi,

kernel-2.6.33.1-19.fc13 works for me (amd64 system with nvidia chipset).

Regards,

Hans


On 04/06/2010 11:53 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hi, everyone. We're looking at pulling kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13 into
> Fedora 13 Beta, quite late, because current Beta candidate builds
> include kernel-2.6.33.1-19.fc13 which is known to include a severe bug
> that breaks boot on systems with Broadcom wired ethernet adapters
> supported by the b44 module.
>
> However, -24 has other changes from -19, including to the nouveau
> (NVIDIA graphics) and iwlwifi (Intel wifi) drivers. We really need as
> many people as possible to test kernel -24, which you can get at
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=164598 , and
> confirm that it works okay on your systems.
>
> To install it, use 'rpm -ivh' for the kernel and -devel packages. If you
> have kernel-headers installed, 'rpm -Uvh' that first. Then reboot to the
> kernel and check that it boots up okay. Please reply to this thread with
> your results. Thanks!
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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-07 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 10:47:22PM +0200, Radek Vokál wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   I need few suggestions about this .. 
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald 
> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use 
> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for 
> dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other 
> apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly 
> I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something 
> like following to %post
> 
> # groupadd -g wireshark
> # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark

This is useful to avoid having setuid binary, but how will regular
users get access to the wireshark group? Maybe through policykit?

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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Frank Murphy
On 06/04/10 23:22, Adam Williamson wrote:

Works fine on Dell Vostro 200 as factory minus included soft.

Kernel.x86_64
System i686

Architecture:  x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):32-bit, 64-bit
CPU(s):1
Thread(s) per core:1
Core(s) per socket:1
CPU socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s):  1
Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
CPU family:6
Model: 22
Stepping:  1
CPU MHz:   1600.000
L1d cache: 32K
L1i cache: 32K
L2 cache:  512K


00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)


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Re: Hibernation causing many crashes; get a rid of it

2010-04-07 Thread Roman Rakus
On 04/07/2010 08:49 AM, Marian Holovatskyy wrote:
> Hi!
> Roman: suppose you can disable it.
>
> On 7 April 2010 08:48, Marian Holovatskyy  wrote:
>
>
>> Hi!
>> I do agree with Stefan as hibernation is really useful feature: I set the
>> laptop to hibernate on low battery power, so I can continue my work after
>> charge. Never got any problems with it (except of long time to bring the PC
>> up).
>>
>> Best regards.
>>
>>
>> On 6 April 2010 19:07, stefan riemens  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> Just to let you know: I hardly ever do a real shutdown, always
>>> suspending and hibernating... Works like a charm here (even running
>>> virtual machines in VirtualBox survive a suspend-resume of the host...
>>> Go figure!)
>>> So I wouldn't call it useless, although restore from hibernate takes
>>> quite some time with the ever-increasing amount of memory modern
>>> machines ship with...
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> 2010/4/6, Rahul Sundaram:
>>>
 On 04/06/2010 09:39 PM, Roman Rakus wrote:
  
> Hi all,
> since we have abrt, I'm getting many bug reports for bash. Nearly all
>
>>> of
>>>
> them are caused by hibernation. User hibernates the computer and than -
> crash here and there.
> What about to get a rid of hibernation since it is useless?
>
>
 If you got bugs in your software, fix it. What's wrong with hibernation?

 Rahul

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>>  
>
>
I'm sorry for my strong words :) It is not useless :)
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Re: Hibernation causing many crashes; get a rid of it

2010-04-07 Thread Roman Rakus
On 04/06/2010 06:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> If you got bugs in your software, fix it. What's wrong with hibernation?
>
That's what I don't know. I know nearly nothing about hibernation. I 
have mark bugs as duplicates and reassigned it to kernel guys. See 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=551570.
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Re: What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13?

2010-04-07 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:37:25 +0200, Denis wrote:

> On 04/07/2010 08:30 AM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote:
> > Denis Leroy wrote, at 04/07/2010 03:20 PM +9:00:
> >> On 03/08/2010 04:37 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> >>> The buildroots are populated from packages in the:
> >>>
> >>> dist-f13
> >>> dist-f13-override
> >>> dist-f12-updates
> >>>
> >>> tags.  If a package isn't in one of those tags, it's not going to be in 
> >>> the
> >>> buildroot.  If you need to build against a newer version of a package, 
> >>> then you
> >>> need to file a ticket on the rel-eng trac instance asking for a buildroot
> >>> override (which will get it tagged into dist-f13-override).
> >>
> >> Sorry to revive this old thread, but does this imply that one cannot use
> >> 'make chain-build' for F-13 updates then ?
> >
> > Yes.
> 
> Thanks Mamoru-san,
> 
> Well, this is not the most motivating news.

How easy is it for releng to create a custom buildroot/tag, which
could be used instead of working with an override tag?
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Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-07 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:45:39 -0700 John Reiser wrote:
> Then I did "rpm --erase" of -24 and "rpm --install" of -24, and the
> message was: -
> /sbin/new-kernel-pkg: line 289:  2334 Segmentation fault  (core
> dumped)

Is it reproducible if you run dracut by hand?:
dracut -f -v /boot/initramfs-2.6.33.1-24.fc13.x86_64.img \
2.6.33.1-24.fc13.x86_64

Did abrt catch the segfault? If yes, did you post the report to
Bugzilla?

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