Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-09 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Radek Vokál (radekvo...@gmail.com):
> On 04/08/2010 10:49 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 April 2010 04:47:22 pm Radek Vokál wrote:
> >>I need few suggestions about this ..
> >> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald
> >> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use
> >> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for
> >> dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other
> >> apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly
> >> I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something
> >> like following to %post
> >>
> >> # groupadd -g wireshark
> >> # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
> >> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
> >> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark
> >>
> >> Suggestions? Ideas? Spec file patches?
> >
> > rpm supposedly has native support for capabilities. That would mean that you
> > don't need to call setcap.
> >
> > -Steve
> >
> 
> Are there any docs for that? I haven't found any so far.

Thread starting here:

http://www.mail-archive.com/rpm-ma...@lists.rpm.org/msg01015.html

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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-09 Thread Radek Vokál
On 04/08/2010 10:49 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Tuesday 06 April 2010 04:47:22 pm Radek Vokál wrote:
>>I need few suggestions about this ..
>> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald
>> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use
>> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for
>> dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other
>> apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly
>> I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something
>> like following to %post
>>
>> # groupadd -g wireshark
>> # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
>> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
>> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark
>>
>> Suggestions? Ideas? Spec file patches?
>
> rpm supposedly has native support for capabilities. That would mean that you
> don't need to call setcap.
>
> -Steve
>

Are there any docs for that? I haven't found any so far.

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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-08 Thread Steve Grubb
On Tuesday 06 April 2010 04:47:22 pm Radek Vokál wrote:
>   I need few suggestions about this ..
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald
> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use
> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for
> dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other
> apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly
> I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something
> like following to %post
> 
> # groupadd -g wireshark
> # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark
> 
> Suggestions? Ideas? Spec file patches?

rpm supposedly has native support for capabilities. That would mean that you 
don't need to call setcap.

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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-07 Thread Colin Walters
2010/4/6 Radek Vokál :
> Hi all,
>
>  I need few suggestions about this ..
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald
> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use
> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for
> dumpcap/wireshark.

Using PolicyKit instead of hardcoding a Unix group gives a lot more
flexibility to system administrators.   For example, in Fedora we
could interactively prompt for the root password by default.  Or we
could default to allowing "console users" auth.  Or require the user's
password.  Or in fact, allow it for a given Unix group.

Basically, you already have the privileged component/user session
separation, which is great, so the dumpcap program just needs to be
runnable as a DBus service, it could expose say an API to get a file
descriptor which gives a dump stream for a given interface.

Documentation lives at: http://hal.freedesktop.org/docs/PolicyKit/
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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-07 Thread Serge E. Hallyn
Quoting Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com):
> On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 10:47:22PM +0200, Radek Vokál wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> >   I need few suggestions about this .. 
> > https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald 
> > Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use 
> > capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for 
> > dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other 
> > apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly 
> > I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something 
> > like following to %post
> > 
> > # groupadd -g wireshark
> > # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
> > # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
> > # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark
> 
> This is useful to avoid having setuid binary, but how will regular
> users get access to the wireshark group? Maybe through policykit?

The originally quoted URL also says:

# groupadd -g wireshark
# usermod -a -G wireshark gerald

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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-07 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 10:47:22PM +0200, Radek Vokál wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   I need few suggestions about this .. 
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald 
> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use 
> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for 
> dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other 
> apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly 
> I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something 
> like following to %post
> 
> # groupadd -g wireshark
> # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark

This is useful to avoid having setuid binary, but how will regular
users get access to the wireshark group? Maybe through policykit?

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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-06 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
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Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote:

Ah Sorry, scratch the last line please, an oversight :)
> I would suggest using libpcap-ng rather than libpcap if it works.


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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-06 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
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Hi,
I was speaking about this with Rahul Sundaram and he pointed me to:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LowerProcessCapabilities

I would suggest using libpcap-ng rather than libpcap if it works.



Radek Vokál wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   I need few suggestions about this .. 
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald 
> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use 
> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for 
> dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other 
> apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly 
> I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something 
> like following to %post
> 
> # groupadd -g wireshark
> # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark
> 
> Suggestions? Ideas? Spec file patches?
> 
> Any help is welcome.
> 
> Radek


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Re: Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-06 Thread Dan Horák
Radek Vokál píše v Út 06. 04. 2010 v 22:47 +0200: 
> Hi all,
> 
>   I need few suggestions about this .. 
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald 
> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use 
> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for 
> dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other 
> apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly 
> I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something 
> like following to %post
> 
> # groupadd -g wireshark
> # chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap

for creating the group you should use the standard scriptlet from
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/UsersAndGroups and set the
group via %attr in %files

> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
> # setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark

I would add this commands to %post too


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Using capabilities for libpcap apps

2010-04-06 Thread Radek Vokál
Hi all,

  I need few suggestions about this .. 
https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald 
Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use 
capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for 
dumpcap/wireshark. It makes whole lot of sense, so I've looked if other 
apps in Fedora are already using it and I haven't found any. Honestly 
I'm not sure about right way to use them. The idea is to add something 
like following to %post

# groupadd -g wireshark
# chgrp wireshark /usr/bin/dumpcap
# setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/dumpcap
# setcap cap_net_raw,cap_net_admin+eip /usr/bin/tshark

Suggestions? Ideas? Spec file patches?

Any help is welcome.

Radek
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