Re: [Geany-Devel] Storing per-project settings for plugins

2017-02-16 Thread Matthew Brush

On 2017-02-16 07:33 AM, Thomas Martitz wrote:

Am 16.02.2017 um 15:55 schrieb Matthew Brush:

On 2017-02-16 03:15 AM, Thomas Martitz wrote:

Am 16.02.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Vasiliy Faronov:

Jiří, Matthew, thanks!

I missed the GKeyFile thing.

Actually, my plugin is written in Python (via Geanypy), and doesn't
get the GKeyFile on project-open/project-save. Probably because there
are no Python bindings for it.

But I guess Python's built-in ConfigParser should be enough.


Geanypy is not actively developed at this time. Let me suggest to give


What does that mean? It's not 100% perfect, but it does what it's
intended to do quite well. Should we just start committing random
changes so it's "actively developed"?



It's not being updated for new Geany APIs, nor does the upstream
developer (you :-) review PRs in a timely manner, for a start.



In this particular case, I don't think PyGtk has bindings for GKeyFile 
(since ConfigParser was effectively the same), so there's not much point 
in GeanyPy just passing a naked C pointer into Python which can't be 
manipulated in any meaningful way.


As for new APIs, "the" upstream developer, and making it sound like a 
dead project; everyone who wants to contribute is more than welcome. 
There are 5 "collaborators" with push access on the Github repo 
(including you) and I'd gladly add anyone else who is interested in 
contributing. Just because I choose not to spend a lot of time hacking 
on something that works well enough for me, doesn't mean it has stop 
anyone else from making it better for them.


Regards,
Matthew Brush
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Re: [Geany-Devel] Storing per-project settings for plugins

2017-02-16 Thread Lex Trotman
>
>>
>> What does that mean? It's not 100% perfect, but it does what it's intended
>> to do quite well. Should we just start committing random changes so it's
>> "actively developed"?
>
>
>
> It's not being updated for new Geany APIs, nor does the upstream developer
> (you :-) review PRs in a timely manner, for a start.

Matthew, Thomas, play nice please children. :)

Neither Python solution is perfect.

Geanypy is the available Python solution that is mature(ish) and
distributed, but is GTK2 only, whilst Peasy is GTK3 but still in
Thomas' private repository, incompletely documented (according to
Thomas), and not distributed.

Thats always the way during transitions, the old way gets little love,
whilst the new way is not quite ready yet. :)

As a volunteer open source project nobody is paid to work on Geany, so
we have to allow for the fact that contributors will vary in ability,
interest, availability and we should accommodate their foibles with
patience.

Thanks
Lex

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[Geany-Devel] New plugin: Python Navigation

2017-02-16 Thread Vasiliy Faronov
Hi all,

I hope you don't mind a quick mention of a little new Geany plugin:

https://github.com/vfaronov/geany-pynav

I've been using it privately for months, and I find that it makes my
Python experience in Geany quite a bit better.

Thanks to Matthew and everyone for GeanyPy, on which this plugin is based.


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Re: [Geany-Devel] Storing per-project settings for plugins

2017-02-16 Thread Vasiliy Faronov
Hi Thomas,

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Thomas Martitz  wrote:
> Geanypy is not actively developed at this time. Let me suggest to give my
> Peasy plugin a
> try, as all the signals should be working there. Peasy is a newer approach
> to support Python (and lua)
> plugins inside Geany.

Thank you for your suggestion. Peasy is interesting and will probably
be indispensable for GTK+3 Geany. But at this time GeanyPy is better
suited for my purposes, as it's more widely packaged and works well
enough for me. The signals are emitted all right; it's just that the
callback doesn't get a GKeyFile argument, but that seems like a minor
nuisance.


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Re: [Geany-Devel] Storing per-project settings for plugins

2017-02-16 Thread Thomas Martitz

Am 16.02.2017 um 15:55 schrieb Matthew Brush:

On 2017-02-16 03:15 AM, Thomas Martitz wrote:

Am 16.02.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Vasiliy Faronov:

Jiří, Matthew, thanks!

I missed the GKeyFile thing.

Actually, my plugin is written in Python (via Geanypy), and doesn't
get the GKeyFile on project-open/project-save. Probably because there
are no Python bindings for it.

But I guess Python's built-in ConfigParser should be enough.


Geanypy is not actively developed at this time. Let me suggest to give


What does that mean? It's not 100% perfect, but it does what it's 
intended to do quite well. Should we just start committing random 
changes so it's "actively developed"?



It's not being updated for new Geany APIs, nor does the upstream 
developer (you :-) review PRs in a timely manner, for a start.


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Re: [Geany-Devel] Storing per-project settings for plugins

2017-02-16 Thread Matthew Brush

On 2017-02-16 03:15 AM, Thomas Martitz wrote:

Am 16.02.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Vasiliy Faronov:

Jiří, Matthew, thanks!

I missed the GKeyFile thing.

Actually, my plugin is written in Python (via Geanypy), and doesn't
get the GKeyFile on project-open/project-save. Probably because there
are no Python bindings for it.

But I guess Python's built-in ConfigParser should be enough.


Geanypy is not actively developed at this time. Let me suggest to give


What does that mean? It's not 100% perfect, but it does what it's 
intended to do quite well. Should we just start committing random 
changes so it's "actively developed"?


Regards,
Matthew Brush
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Re: [Geany-Devel] Storing per-project settings for plugins

2017-02-16 Thread Thomas Martitz

Am 16.02.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Vasiliy Faronov:

Jiří, Matthew, thanks!

I missed the GKeyFile thing.

Actually, my plugin is written in Python (via Geanypy), and doesn't
get the GKeyFile on project-open/project-save. Probably because there
are no Python bindings for it.

But I guess Python's built-in ConfigParser should be enough.


Geanypy is not actively developed at this time. Let me suggest to give 
my Peasy plugin a
try, as all the signals should be working there. Peasy is a newer 
approach to support Python (and lua)

plugins inside Geany.

https://github.com/kugel-/peasy/

There are also prebuilt debian/ubuntu binaries here (they require a GTK3 
built of Geany

which is also available here):

https://deb.tmartitz.de/

Unfortunately I haven't written a migration guide yet but if you have 
questions feel free to ask.


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Re: [Geany-Devel] Storing per-project settings for plugins

2017-02-16 Thread Vasiliy Faronov
Jiří, Matthew, thanks!

I missed the GKeyFile thing.

Actually, my plugin is written in Python (via Geanypy), and doesn't
get the GKeyFile on project-open/project-save. Probably because there
are no Python bindings for it.

But I guess Python's built-in ConfigParser should be enough.


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