Re: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-25 Thread Daniel Narvaez
As far as I know these are based on the latest OLPC builds (and kernel).
Only the sugar packages are updated, see the wiki page Walter linked.
Gonzalo just linked the XO4 build linked from Walter's page.

On Monday, 25 November 2013, C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 A related question.  I'll try to phrase this delicately -- what's the
 relationship between Walter's Sugar 100 build and the latest OLPC
 kernel?  Can I safely assume that SugarLabs is the current keeper of
 the flame and has all the latest hardware-support bits (I hope so!).
 Gonzalo pointed me to a different build.  Can someone explain the
 different sources of bits and development to me?
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Re: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-25 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Our latest builds (Walter and me pointed to the same) are based on Fedora
18,
as 13.2.0, and only have the sugar 0.100 rpms, and a few other updates from
dsd.
Sadly, we don't have resources to work in the low level stuff,
then we didn't moved to newer Fedora releases.

Gonzalo


On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 As far as I know these are based on the latest OLPC builds (and kernel).
 Only the sugar packages are updated, see the wiki page Walter linked.
 Gonzalo just linked the XO4 build linked from Walter's page.


 On Monday, 25 November 2013, C. Scott Ananian wrote:

 A related question.  I'll try to phrase this delicately -- what's the
 relationship between Walter's Sugar 100 build and the latest OLPC
 kernel?  Can I safely assume that SugarLabs is the current keeper of
 the flame and has all the latest hardware-support bits (I hope so!).
 Gonzalo pointed me to a different build.  Can someone explain the
 different sources of bits and development to me?
   --scott
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Re: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-25 Thread Anna
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.netwrote:
IIRC startup volume is persistent, but I can't remember how it is adjusted.

Oh, this was one of the more common questions I used to get from teachers
here in Birmingham.  The startup tones were extremely distracting in the
classroom.

I just tested this on my XO4 to make sure the process is the same as it was
on the XO-1.  Start with the XO4 powered off.  Locate and hover your finger
over F11 (the volume down key) and get ready.  Power on.  While (or even
before, it doesn't hurt anything) you hear the tones, press F11 repeatedly
until the volume level is satisfactory.  To raise the volume back up, it's
the same process but with F12 (volume up).

I think at this point some of us have technically heard The Edge's guitar
playing more than a lot of U2 fans.

Anna
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Re: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-25 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 08:55:54PM -0600, Anna wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote:
  IIRC startup volume is persistent, but I can't remember how it is
  adjusted.
 
 Oh, this was one of the more common questions I used to get from
 teachers here in Birmingham.  The startup tones were extremely
 distracting in the classroom.

Prepare a USB drive for your teachers to disable the sound:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Startup_sound#Can_we_disable_it_for_a_classroom.3F

 I just tested this on my XO4 to make sure the process is the same as
 it was on the XO-1.

Yes, it is the same across XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4.

 Start with the XO4 powered off.  Locate and hover your finger over
 F11 (the volume down key) and get ready.   Power on.  While (or even
 before, it doesn't hurt anything) you hear the tones, press F11
 repeatedly until the volume level is satisfactory.  To raise the
 volume back up, it's the same process but with F12 (volume up).

You can also hold a volume key down after turning the laptop on, and
it will repeat.  You can use this on any random XO you pick up to
avoid the startup sound almost entirely.

 I think at this point some of us have technically heard The Edge's
 guitar playing more than a lot of U2 fans.

Yes, during OLPC conference calls and team meetings having some
participant reboot an XO repeatedly was very distracting.  ;-)

Sick of U2?  You can now change the startup sound.
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Startup_sound#Can_we_use_another_sound.3F

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Re: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-24 Thread Walter Bender
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote:
 Anyone have any suggestions for my six year old friend?
 IIRC startup volume  is persistent, but I can't remember how it is adjusted.

Yes. He can adjust the volume using the volume control on the Frame
and it should persist.

 The rest might be  helped by upgrading to the latest XO4 build?

I recommend he try [1] if he has an XO 4. Feedback appreciated.

   --scott

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Douglas Rogers purpleairpl...@gmail.com
 Date: Nov 24, 2013 12:00 PM
 Subject: XO Problems (4 Problems)
 To: csc...@cscott.net
 Cc:

 hi scott it's Douglas. Can you help me make my xo work?
 1) When I turn on the computer,the ''on music'' is too loud.(so loud I have
 to cover the speakers)
 2) In scratch when I switch projects all the sprites from the old project
 stay there.
 3) My XO freezes up a lot
 4)  If I use the touch screen I can't start using the mouse again



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[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Testing
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Re: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-24 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Probably [1] == http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/AU1B/33024xx4.zd


On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net
 wrote:
  Anyone have any suggestions for my six year old friend?
  IIRC startup volume  is persistent, but I can't remember how it is
 adjusted.

 Yes. He can adjust the volume using the volume control on the Frame
 and it should persist.

  The rest might be  helped by upgrading to the latest XO4 build?

 I recommend he try [1] if he has an XO 4. Feedback appreciated.

--scott
 
  -- Forwarded message --
  From: Douglas Rogers purpleairpl...@gmail.com
  Date: Nov 24, 2013 12:00 PM
  Subject: XO Problems (4 Problems)
  To: csc...@cscott.net
  Cc:
 
  hi scott it's Douglas. Can you help me make my xo work?
  1) When I turn on the computer,the ''on music'' is too loud.(so loud I
 have
  to cover the speakers)
  2) In scratch when I switch projects all the sprites from the old project
  stay there.
  3) My XO freezes up a lot
  4)  If I use the touch screen I can't start using the mouse again
 
 
 
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Re: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-24 Thread Paul Fox
walter wrote:
  On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote:
   Anyone have any suggestions for my six year old friend?
   IIRC startup volume  is persistent, but I can't remember how it is 
   adjusted.
  
  Yes. He can adjust the volume using the volume control on the Frame
  and it should persist.

really?  i thought startup volume (the on music -- love it!) was
controlled by, and persisted by, OFW, and that it was a separate
setting than for the running OS.  i.e., it used to be that you had to
adjust the volume while the chimes were still playing, and then you'd
be all set.

paul

  
   The rest might be  helped by upgrading to the latest XO4 build?
  
  I recommend he try [1] if he has an XO 4. Feedback appreciated.
  
 --scott
  
   -- Forwarded message --
   From: Douglas Rogers purpleairpl...@gmail.com
   Date: Nov 24, 2013 12:00 PM
   Subject: XO Problems (4 Problems)
   To: csc...@cscott.net
   Cc:
  
   hi scott it's Douglas. Can you help me make my xo work?
   1) When I turn on the computer,the ''on music'' is too loud.(so loud I have
   to cover the speakers)
   2) In scratch when I switch projects all the sprites from the old project
   stay there.
   3) My XO freezes up a lot
   4)  If I use the touch screen I can't start using the mouse again
  
  
  
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Re: XO Problems (4 Problems)

2013-11-24 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Nov 25, 2013 5:37 AM, Paul Fox p...@laptop.org wrote:

 walter wrote:
   On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:53 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net
wrote:
Anyone have any suggestions for my six year old friend?
IIRC startup volume  is persistent, but I can't remember how it is
adjusted.
  
   Yes. He can adjust the volume using the volume control on the Frame
   and it should persist.

 really?  i thought startup volume (the on music -- love it!) was
 controlled by, and persisted by, OFW, and that it was a separate
 setting than for the running OS.  i.e., it used to be that you had to
 adjust the volume while the chimes were still playing, and then you'd
 be all set.


OFW and Linux do handle their volume settings individually. Paul's
suggestion should fix that problem up. I believe there is a newer OFW
revision that reduces the overall volume to avoid distortion.
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