en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-23 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
OLPC OS 12.1.0 is looking good! I noticed that en_US and en_AU are
available. We have our language fallbacks set to en_AU;en_GB;en_US to
overcome the lack of strings in en_AU. Would it be possible to have
en_GB included by default as well?

Thanks,
Sridhar


Sridhar Dhanapalan
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One Laptop per Child Australia
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Re: en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan
 wrote:
> OLPC OS 12.1.0 is looking good! I noticed that en_US and en_AU are
> available. We have our language fallbacks set to en_AU;en_GB;en_US to
> overcome the lack of strings in en_AU. Would it be possible to have
> en_GB included by default as well?

I assume you'll be building a custom OS image, no?



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Re: en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-24 Thread James Cameron
On behalf of the kids that I test with ...

I'd prefer that we not include en_AU at all if we can't also include
en_GB, but I don't know if we have the ability to configure fallbacks
in Sugar.  If we can't configure fallbacks, we should exclude en_AU
and languages for which a specified fallback is necessary.

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Re: en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-24 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 25 May 2012 03:05, Martin Langhoff  wrote:
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan
>  wrote:
>> OLPC OS 12.1.0 is looking good! I noticed that en_US and en_AU are
>> available. We have our language fallbacks set to en_AU;en_GB;en_US to
>> overcome the lack of strings in en_AU. Would it be possible to have
>> en_GB included by default as well?
>
> I assume you'll be building a custom OS image, no?

Yes, which admittedly makes this discussion redundant for those who
use our builds.

I am only really asking because you have gone to the trouble (thanks!)
of including en_AU, which in its current state is only useful if
there's an en_GB fallback. This actually makes sense, since en_AU and
en_GB are probably 99% identical.

Sridhar
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Re: en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-24 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 25 May 2012 08:00, James Cameron  wrote:
> On behalf of the kids that I test with ...
>
> I'd prefer that we not include en_AU at all if we can't also include
> en_GB, but I don't know if we have the ability to configure fallbacks
> in Sugar.  If we can't configure fallbacks, we should exclude en_AU
> and languages for which a specified fallback is necessary.

Sugar allegedly supports fallbacks, but they are not working properly
for us right now:

https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/999

Our fallback for now is to use en_GB as the primary language.

Sridhar
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Re: en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-24 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan
 wrote:
> On 25 May 2012 08:00, James Cameron  wrote:
>> On behalf of the kids that I test with ...
>>
>> I'd prefer that we not include en_AU at all if we can't also include
>> en_GB, but I don't know if we have the ability to configure fallbacks
>> in Sugar.  If we can't configure fallbacks, we should exclude en_AU
>> and languages for which a specified fallback is necessary.
>
> Sugar allegedly supports fallbacks, but they are not working properly
> for us right now:
>
> https://dev.laptop.org.au/issues/999
>
> Our fallback for now is to use en_GB as the primary language.
>
> Sridhar
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There doesn't seem to have been an upstream ticket filed, so I doubt
anyone upstream has looked into it. If I am properly parsing the
thread, it seems that the fallback is broken when there are multiple
fallbacks: the intermediate language is not picked up?

-walter

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Re: en_GB in OLPC OS 12.1.0

2012-05-24 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan
 wrote:
> I am only really asking because you have gone to the trouble (thanks!)
> of including en_AU, which in its current state is only useful if
> there's an en_GB fallback. This actually makes sense, since en_AU and
> en_GB are probably 99% identical.

Ok, so there's a bug or error in there somewhere. Sounds worth
pursuing but perhaps not high pri -- we do have some burning topics at
this time.

Can you file it in dev.laptop.org, with a bit more fleshing out?

I assume fallback works correctly when en_GB is there, have you tested
this recently?

thanks!



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