Re: Xfree86.0 high CPU in 1280x768
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006, Barry Scott wrote: > Mark Vojkovich wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Barry Scott wrote: > > > > > >> I'm seeing the X process take a lot more CPU time to run any workload in > >> 1280x768 compared to a standard VGA mode like 1280x1024. > >> > >> For example running a text scrolling app (lots of XCopyArea calls) I see > >> the > >> following CPU usage figures: > >> > >> 1280x1024: 6.75% > >> 1280x768: 10.53% > >> > >> top shows that the X process is the only one to show a change between > >> the two modes. > >> > >> With XVIDEO apps the difference is from 50% to 70% to play a movie. > >> > >> This happens with the i810 driver and the via driver so I don't think > >> its a driver > >> specific issue. I think that X is changing its behavior. > >> > > > >I seriously doubt that. > > > > > >> Is it possible that X has turned off it acceleration in 1280x768 mode? > >> > > > > "X" doesn't have anything to do with acceleration. This is entirely > > a driver/HW issue. > > > I'm surprised that XAA has nothing to do with the X core. I'd have assumed > that if the driver supports a speed up then X uses it otherwise X falls > back to > none accelerated algorithm. But if you say its all in the driver I guess > that > means that both the via and the i810 driver have the same bug in them. It's not clear that it's a bug yet. > > >> What can I look at to find out what the problem is? > >> > > > > Is your refresh rate the same in both cases? Integrated > > graphics have peculiar performance characteristics because the > > graphics hardware shares memory bandwidth with the CPU. > > > Refresh rate is 60Hz in both cases. So I assume that its not a memory > bandwidth change as you suggest. > > Where should I look to get some data to work on? > When you did your text scrolling test, were the windows the same size? It's often the case that the CPU usage increases when the graphics speed is faster. That's because the faster graphics allows more work to get done. If it takes a certain amount of CPU to render one line of text and scroll the window, faster scrolling (because you have few lines to scroll) translates to higher CPU usage. Run some experiments on fixed size windows. "x11perf -scroll500" would be an interesting test. Ideally both resolutions would have the same performance and CPU usage. If the lower resolution runs faster, which it might due to more memory bandwidth being available, then I'd expect CPU usage to increase as well. Mark. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@XFree86.Org http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Xfree86.0 high CPU in 1280x768
Mark Vojkovich wrote: On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Barry Scott wrote: I'm seeing the X process take a lot more CPU time to run any workload in 1280x768 compared to a standard VGA mode like 1280x1024. For example running a text scrolling app (lots of XCopyArea calls) I see the following CPU usage figures: 1280x1024: 6.75% 1280x768: 10.53% top shows that the X process is the only one to show a change between the two modes. With XVIDEO apps the difference is from 50% to 70% to play a movie. This happens with the i810 driver and the via driver so I don't think its a driver specific issue. I think that X is changing its behavior. I seriously doubt that. Is it possible that X has turned off it acceleration in 1280x768 mode? "X" doesn't have anything to do with acceleration. This is entirely a driver/HW issue. I'm surprised that XAA has nothing to do with the X core. I'd have assumed that if the driver supports a speed up then X uses it otherwise X falls back to none accelerated algorithm. But if you say its all in the driver I guess that means that both the via and the i810 driver have the same bug in them. What can I look at to find out what the problem is? Is your refresh rate the same in both cases? Integrated graphics have peculiar performance characteristics because the graphics hardware shares memory bandwidth with the CPU. Refresh rate is 60Hz in both cases. So I assume that its not a memory bandwidth change as you suggest. Where should I look to get some data to work on? Barry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@XFree86.Org http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Re: Xfree86.0 high CPU in 1280x768
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Barry Scott wrote: > I'm seeing the X process take a lot more CPU time to run any workload in > 1280x768 compared to a standard VGA mode like 1280x1024. > > For example running a text scrolling app (lots of XCopyArea calls) I see the > following CPU usage figures: > > 1280x1024: 6.75% > 1280x768: 10.53% > > top shows that the X process is the only one to show a change between > the two modes. > > With XVIDEO apps the difference is from 50% to 70% to play a movie. > > This happens with the i810 driver and the via driver so I don't think > its a driver > specific issue. I think that X is changing its behavior. I seriously doubt that. > > Is it possible that X has turned off it acceleration in 1280x768 mode? "X" doesn't have anything to do with acceleration. This is entirely a driver/HW issue. > > What can I look at to find out what the problem is? Is your refresh rate the same in both cases? Integrated graphics have peculiar performance characteristics because the graphics hardware shares memory bandwidth with the CPU. Mark. ___ Devel mailing list Devel@XFree86.Org http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
Xfree86.0 high CPU in 1280x768
I'm seeing the X process take a lot more CPU time to run any workload in 1280x768 compared to a standard VGA mode like 1280x1024. For example running a text scrolling app (lots of XCopyArea calls) I see the following CPU usage figures: 1280x1024: 6.75% 1280x768: 10.53% top shows that the X process is the only one to show a change between the two modes. With XVIDEO apps the difference is from 50% to 70% to play a movie. This happens with the i810 driver and the via driver so I don't think its a driver specific issue. I think that X is changing its behavior. Is it possible that X has turned off it acceleration in 1280x768 mode? What can I look at to find out what the problem is? Barry ___ Devel mailing list Devel@XFree86.Org http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/devel
