Re: [DDN] in search of volunteer moderators (was The future of DDN)
-Original Message- From: Cindy Lemcke-Hoong Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:10 AM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] in search of volunteer moderators (was The future of DDN) First of all can someone, such as Andy Carvin, come up with a to-do/qualifications/expectation etc. list for moderator? Without that, some qualified persons might shy away from volunteering. Cindy = cindyho...@gmail.com --- On Tue, 30/12/08, Andy Carvin wrote: From: Andy Carvin Subject: [DDN] in search of volunteer moderators (was The future of DDN) To: "The Digital Divide Network discussion group" Date: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 6:34 PM Hi Tom, The problem is that there isn't an official moderator at the moment. Technically I'm not supposed to be moderating the list anymore because I work for NPR News and I can't be involved directly in policy discussions, but the moderating from TakingITGlobal sometimes runs behind. I would suggest that DDN members try to find three or four people who could share the moderating duties, and I'm sure the TIG folks would be happy to get them set up. Either way, I really shouldn't be doing it as long as I work for NPR. ac Andy Carvin andycarvin at yahoo com www.andycarvin.com www.pbs.org/learningnow - Original Message From: tom abeles To: digitaldivide@digitaldivide.net Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:20:20 PM Subject: Re: [DDN] The future of DDN hmm, how long between submission and "approval" as in this just released batch of postings. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@digitaldivide.net http://digitaldivide.net/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to digitaldivide-requ...@digitaldivide.net with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@digitaldivide.net http://digitaldivide.net/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to digitaldivide-requ...@digitaldivide.net with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@digitaldivide.net http://digitaldivide.net/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to digitaldivide-requ...@digitaldivide.net with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC
-Original Message- From: Sarah Blackmun-Eskow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 2:32 PM To: 'The Digital Divide Network discussion group' Subject: Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC Thank you, Joel, for pointing out all the taken-for-granteds implicit in the advocacy of OLPC. Sarah The narratives of the world are numberless. . . . there nowhere is nor has been a people without narrative.--Roland Barthes Sarah Blackmun-Eskow President, The Pangaea Network 290 North Fairview Avenue Goleta CA 93117 805-692-6998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.pangaeanetwork.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 10:57 AM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC Hi, Cindy! My post was not intended as a response to your inquiry (to which I extend my apologies), but to segue BACK to the topic (OLPC) by relating it to telecenters. Personally, I am in favor of both developments. BayangPinoy has been working for the implementation of community/telecenters in the Philippines for over 10 years now, and we actually look forward to a $100 PC as something that a community of 100 families can afford 5 units of (as the HW component of the telecenters). FYI, my post was intended to point out that "community centers" (and telecenters) are focused on COMMUNITY, while OLPCs (P - PERSONAL) and other computer technologies are focused on individuals that can afford at least: a) $100 for a computer, b) $20/month for "acceptable broadband", c) understands English (to maximize the value of the material available on the internet) d) has access to electronic bank accounts or credit cards (to be able to participate in ecommerce), and presumably: c) understands English (to maximize the value of the material available on the internet) d) has access to electronic bank accounts or credit cards (to be able to participate in ecommerce), e) has the time / motivation / (?luxury) of "catching up" to all the background knowledge that is a prerequisite of a "point-and-click" networked system. These items (a-e) are definitely not easy (or even possible) for the majority of the citizens of under-developed countries. Regards, J Galgana BayangPinoy Organization, Inc. On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Cindy Lemcke-Hoong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Joel, > I think you misunderstood me. I was only asking for clarifications of the differences between the term 'community computers' vs. telecenters. If you read any of my previous posts you would understand that I am not supporter of OLPC. > > To my understanding 'community computers' is no different than telecenters. Just another new terms that says the same thing. > > Telecenter has been in existence for more than 20 years and there are many well researched documents written on telecenter. Why reinventing the wheels? > > Cindy > ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@digitaldivide.net http://digitaldivide.net/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@digitaldivide.net http://digitaldivide.net/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message. ___ DIGITALDIVIDE mailing list DIGITALDIVIDE@digitaldivide.net http://digitaldivide.net/mailman/listinfo/digitaldivide To unsubscribe, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of the message.
Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC
-Original Message- From: Paperless Homework <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 2:32 PM To: The Digital Divide Network discussion group Subject: Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC Hello steve, I do generaly agree with your views except that I would like to change this little bit.. You said " The real choice is between online learning or no learning." It would be more appropriate to rephrase it as The real choice is between online/offline learning throug ICT or no learning." This is because to say online learning is the only choice for ICT in Education is not exactly right. More learning today are learnt through offline than online... in many homes and schools around the world. More people are offline at anyone time than online. Another thing, having a computer or two in a telecenter does not mean only 1 or 2 students may benefit. That is the old model. Today telecenters can make use of 1 or 2 computers to serve entire class of students using projectors etc. So it depends on how you use the computers. Having one computer for each(as originally intended in the OLPC) is good but in more cases than not ...impractical in third world countries (in fact I really doubt any third world country). The real issue of the digital divide as far as schools are concerned today is the inabilities to reach out to the unreached anytime any place and any cost. We can talk until the cows come home about other issues highlighted by many contributors here, without this being solved first, we are like trying to teach the rural folks to run before they able able to walk. Hence to really close the digital divides among nations around the world, look into issue of reach... then we can start talking about pedagogy. Read an article about our initiative here and perhaps most will understand what the world is doing and what she lacks as far as trying to reach the unreached 5 billion. http://www.govtech.com/dc/articles/270167 Meanwhile we should not forget about the environment impact our current schools are contributing to the deteriorating environments filling land fills with millions of tons of paper wastes. This in spite of all the high techs. Read about about a Practical tech not high tech article by a 14 years experieced ICT journalist. www.paperlesshomework.com/surf Regards Alan www.paperlesshomework.com An elearning solution for rural areas where online/CDs cannot reach. Get the latest happenings through paperlesshomework tool bar www.paperlesshomework.communitytoolbars.com --- On Sat, 10/4/08, Steve Eskow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Steve Eskow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [DDN] PhD research on OLPC To: "The Digital Divide Network discussion group" Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 3:55 AM Hi Tom, Sorry to be so slow in responding. For some reason I missed this message of yours when it arrived. Perhaps it would be useful to put the matter of moving out of what Bourdieu called "the scholastic enclosure" into the new spaces of communication technology into an action research mode. For example: we know that the poor nations aren't going to meet the Millenium Development Goals for education by erecting buildings to teach and house those now left untaught. The real choice is between online learning or no learning. One question, then, for research is how to bring computers and students together. Sarah talked about "community computers." I've used the term "social computers," to contrast with the taken-for-granted rich country assumption of the "personal computer." The "telecentre" is one approach to the "social" computer, and it has clear limitations. We can put a computer in a school, a church, a kiosk, a cafe and it can serve one, three, five students. Will such an approach do the job? We don't know for sure, but we can try, keep careful records and report results. On the matter of pedagogy: perhaps we need a transitional strategy, rather than insisting that all existing syllabi and curriculum materials and instructional strategies are hopelessly inadequate, an approach guaranteed to frighten or threaten or anger many of the faculty whose support we need. I, for one, would rather make existing instructional strategies made available via ICT than nothing at all. Again, we encourage an action research approach, and we report on how well the traditional pedagogies do when compared to the new ones that seem more authentic and relevant to us. Steve On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 9:19 AM, tom abeles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Steve > > You are right, there are transitions and there are different models. What > might be appropriate today in Ghana might be different, today in the US. The > approach of education planners is to want to eventually find the one global > model. Yet with technology, as you suggest, there are many models for > learning including different approaches from didactic, sage of stage, to a > problem-based-learning model as examples. T
