Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
- Original Message - From: "Patrick Lindecker" > > The best way would be that some digital association manages this (as for > the > SSTV codes, however I don't know who manages this SSTV list...) . No-one, as far as I know I'm the only person writing / maintaining SSTV code. > Call ID: I have created an extension of a specific RS ID, called "Call ID" > (the code in Pascal will be available with the 4.14 version as I have > added > a Prop ID). > OK - I suggest we (you) send Mode ID then sender Callsign (optional). > XML file?: it's surely very powerful but I don't know this technic, in > fact. > However, it's just a list with an identifier for a mode string, so a serie > of IF is sufficient. XML is for professionals like yourself :) Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
Simon and all, Up to now, the developper who wants a RS ID code asks me and it will be OK if the number of modes is reasonnable. For example, I can't give for each Olivia/Constestia/RTTYM mode a code because this would correspond to 120 codes... As in Multipsk, I try to limit the number of sub-modes, it corresponds also to the RS ID need. Once given, I communicate it to Votjech so that he can add to his code. The goal is have always one code for one mode and not one code for x modes. If it is maintained collectively, the risk is to have one code for x modes... The best way would be that some digital association manages this (as for the SSTV codes, however I don't know who manages this SSTV list...) . Call ID: I have created an extension of a specific RS ID, called "Call ID" (the code in Pascal will be available with the 4.14 version as I have added a Prop ID). XML file?: it's surely very powerful but I don't know this technic, in fact. However, it's just a list with an identifier for a mode string, so a serie of IF is sufficient. 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: "Simon (HB9DRV)" To: Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth > What do other developers think about the Definitive List of RS-ID codes > being maintained here? I suggest all programs should display this list if > requested by the user together with the version number. > > I'll be away on holiday for two weeks and will try to get the code working > while I'm away. I wonder whether the RS ID idea could be / should be > extended to optionally include a callsign? > > Once I get the code integrated into DM780 I'll be able to make more > sensible > suggestions. > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > www.ham-radio-deluxe.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Andy obrien" > > >> Well done Simon, this would be a good collaboration. > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, DM780, or Multipsk > Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
Patrick, What do you think about maintaining this code database in an XML file? Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: "Patrick Lindecker" > > IF NUMBER=1 THEN MODE:='BPSK31' ELSE > ...
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
What do other developers think about the Definitive List of RS-ID codes being maintained here? I suggest all programs should display this list if requested by the user together with the version number. I'll be away on holiday for two weeks and will try to get the code working while I'm away. I wonder whether the RS ID idea could be / should be extended to optionally include a callsign? Once I get the code integrated into DM780 I'll be able to make more sensible suggestions. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: "Andy obrien" > Well done Simon, this would be a good collaboration.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
8-250, CONTESTIA-8-500,
CONTESTIA-16-500, CONTESTIA-16-1000, CONTESTIA-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=49 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=50 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=51 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=52 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=53 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-16-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=54 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-4-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=55 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-4-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=56 THEN MODE:='VOICE' ELSE
IF NUMBER=57 THEN MODE:='MFSK16' ELSE
IF NUMBER=60 THEN MODE:='MFSK8' ELSE
{"RTTYM" parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: "4" (4 tones), "8" (8
tones), "16" (16 tones), "32" (32 tones), parameter 2: "250" (B=250 Hz),
"500" (B=500 Hz) or "1000" (B=1000 Hz))...same parameters as OLIVIA
Examples: RTTYM-32-1000 or RTTYM-8-500
Note: the following are the main RTTYM modes: RTTYM-4-250, RTTYM-4-500,
RTTYM-8-250, RTTYM-8-500, RTTYM-16-500, RTTYM-16-1000, RTTYM-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=61 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=62 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=63 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=65 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=66 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-16-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=67 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-4-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=68 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-4-250' ELSE
{"OLIVIA" parameter 1 parameter 2 (parameter 1: "4" (4 tones), "8" (8
tones), "16" (16 tones), "32" (32 tones), parameter 2: "250" (B=250 Hz),
"500" (B=500 Hz) or "1000" (B=1000 Hz))
Examples: OLIVIA-32-1000 or OLIVIA-8-500
Note: the following are the main Olivia modes: OLIVIA-4-250, OLIVIA-4-500,
OLIVIA-8-250, OLIVIA-8-500, OLIVIA-16-500, OLIVIA-16-1000, OLIVIA-32-1000}
IF NUMBER=69 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-8-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=70 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-16-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=71 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-32-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=72 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-8-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=73 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-16-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=74 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-4-500' ELSE
IF NUMBER=75 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-4-250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=76 THEN MODE:='PAX' ELSE
IF NUMBER=77 THEN MODE:='PAX2' ELSE
IF NUMBER=78 THEN MODE:='DOMINOF' ELSE
IF NUMBER=79 THEN MODE:='FAX' ELSE
{the sub-modes SSTV are automatically recognized in SSTV so no parameters
are needed for SSTV}
IF NUMBER=81 THEN MODE:='SSTV' ELSE
{"DOMINOEX" parameter 1 and optionally parameter 2 (parameter 1: "4" (4
baud) , "5" (5 bauds),
"8" (8 bauds), "11" (11 bauds), "16" (16 bauds), "22" (22 bauds),
parameter 2 "" (no parameter 2 for non-FEC) or "FEC" (for FEC correction))
Example: DOMINOEX-11 or DOMINOEX-16-FEC (parameter 2 is optional)}
IF NUMBER=84 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-4' ELSE
IF NUMBER=85 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-5' ELSE
IF NUMBER=86 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-8' ELSE
IF NUMBER=87 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-11' ELSE
IF NUMBER=88 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-16' ELSE
IF NUMBER=90 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-22' ELSE
IF NUMBER=92 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-4-FEC' ELSE
IF NUMBER=93 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-5-FEC' ELSE
IF NUMBER=97 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-8-FEC' ELSE
IF NUMBER=98 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-11-FEC' ELSE
IF NUMBER=99 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-16-FEC' ELSE
IF NUMBER=101 THEN MODE:='DOMINOEX-22-FEC' ELSE
IF NUMBER=104 THEN MODE:='FELD HELL' ELSE
IF NUMBER=105 THEN MODE:='PSK HELL' ELSE
IF NUMBER=106 THEN MODE:='HELL 80' ELSE
{"FMHELL" parameter 1 (parameter 1: "105" (105 bauds) or "245" (245
bauds)),
Example: FMHELL-245}
IF NUMBER=107 THEN MODE:='FM HELL-105' ELSE
IF NUMBER=108 THEN MODE:='FM HELL-245' ELSE
IF NUMBER=110 THEN MODE:='QPSK31' ELSE
{"PACKET" parameter 1 (parameter 1: "110" (bauds),Example: PACKET-110}
IF NUMBER=113 THEN MODE:='PACKET-110' ELSE
IF NUMBER=114 THEN MODE:='141A' ELSE
IF NUMBER=116 THEN MODE:='OLIVIA-8-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=117 THEN MODE:='CONTESTIA-8-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=119 THEN MODE:='RTTYM-8-1000' ELSE
IF NUMBER=123 THEN MODE:='DTMF' ELSE
IF NUMBER=125 THEN MODE:='ALE400' ELSE
IF NUMBER=126 THEN MODE:='BPSK250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=127 THEN MODE:='QPSK250' ELSE
IF NUMBER=131 THEN MODE:='FDMDV' ELSE
IF NUMBER=132 THEN MODE:='JT65-A' ELSE
IF NUMBER=134 THEN MODE:='JT65-B' ELSE
IF NUMBER=135 THEN MODE:='JT65-C' ELSE
IF NUMBER=136 THE
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
No - it's sent in the center frequency and indicates the mode being used. For robustness it could be sent a few times maybe... If you can't decode the RS ID then you'll probably not decode the mode being used anyway. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: "Rud Merriam" > The RSID is good but is it overly complicated?
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
The RSID is good but is it overly complicated? What if a pilot tone or tones were sent indicating the mode? Maybe 25 msecs of tones with changes at 5 msecs. These tones would also establish the center (or edge) frequency for the mode so auto-tuning might be possible. A pattern might be 1k and 1.2k for 5 msecs, then 1k and 1.4k, then 1.2k and 1.4k ... Some modes like PSK31 might not need a dedicated tone since the idle patter is unique. The drawback to RSID is you have to get a good decode. Something simpler like a set of relatively long durations tones might be more robust. - 73 - Rud Merriam K5RUD ARES AEC Montgomery County, TX http://TheHamNetwork.net > -Original Message- > From: Simon (HB9DRV) [mailto:simon.br...@kns.ch] > Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 9:50 AM > To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR > bandwidth > > > I've just looked at Vojtech's code, it seems reasonable *and* he's > resampling from 8kHz up to 11.025kHz. > > If I can get this working (and why not!) then I suggest we > attempt to for a > standard for the RSID codes similar to the SSTV VIS codes, maybe even > storing the standard in this forum. > > This will really help when not using a 'standard' mode such > as PSK31, 63 or > RTTY. > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > www.ham-radio-deluxe.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Vojtech Bubnik" > > > > My code is derived from Patrick's, only I heavily optimized it to be > > executed on a less powerful fixed point arithmetics CPU. I > am obsessed > > with optimization to increase battery life of the Pocket PC device. > > > > > > Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Pages at > http://www.obriensweb.com/sked > > Recommended digital mode software: Winwarbler, FLDIGI, > DM780, or Multipsk > Logging Software: DXKeeper or Ham Radio Deluxe. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
Well done Simon, this would be a good collaboration. Andy K3UK On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Simon (HB9DRV) wrote: > > > I've just looked at Vojtech's code, it seems reasonable *and* he's > resampling from 8kHz up to 11.025kHz. > > If I can get this working (and why not!) then I suggest we attempt to for a > standard for the RSID codes similar to the SSTV VIS codes, maybe even > storing the standard in this forum. > > This will really help when not using a 'standard' mode such as PSK31, 63 or > RTTY. > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > www.ham-radio-deluxe.com
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day? RS ID on SdR bandwidth
I've just looked at Vojtech's code, it seems reasonable *and* he's resampling from 8kHz up to 11.025kHz. If I can get this working (and why not!) then I suggest we attempt to for a standard for the RSID codes similar to the SSTV VIS codes, maybe even storing the standard in this forum. This will really help when not using a 'standard' mode such as PSK31, 63 or RTTY. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: "Vojtech Bubnik" > > My code is derived from Patrick's, only I heavily optimized it to be > executed on a less powerful fixed point arithmetics CPU. I am obsessed > with optimization to increase battery life of the Pocket PC device.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Mode of the Day?
Jaak, > Calling frequencies DigiQRP group http://hflink.com/olivia/ > http://www.edutee.net/digiqrp Thanks for pasing that along. Tony -K2MO
