Re: [Discuss] D-I-Y NAS enclosures, Backblaze
Kurt Keville wrote: I have been following this dialogue at various locations... like http://openstoragepod.org/ ... it is remarkable how cheap DIY NAS is getting... Thanks for the link. It says they were inspired by the Backblaze project. For those not familiar, Backblaze is in the business of providing online storage, and they published the plans for the low-cost petabyte storage servers they used internally: http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ This is great to see, and I've looked into some of the components they use, like the SATA port multiplier backplanes, but Backblaze and OpenStoragePod are interested in solving the problem for petabyte-scale storage, which is an order of magnitude (or two or three) beyond what I'm interested in at the moment. I had hoped to see multiple vendors start offering the SATA backplanes, but years later the item is still hard to find. Compared to the enterprise alternatives, a Backblaze is a bargain, but much of it doesn't scale down cost effectively to 6 ~ 12 drives. They paid $748 for their steel enclosure alone. A smaller one would obviously cost less, but any custom enclosure is going to run $200+. What's on the market for small-scale NASs is already cheap by enterprise standards. But there is still a noticeable server tax on these small system. At least some of it is justifiable due to lower volumes. So it is a harder problem to solve. -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA Enterprise solutions through open source. Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] D-I-Y NAS enclosures, Backblaze
Sounds about right. A few years ago I paid $779 for a 12-disk enclosure from newegg, plus another $120 for a 1U server from ebay to run the thing. On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Tom Metro tmetro-...@vl.com wrote: Kurt Keville wrote: I have been following this dialogue at various locations... like http://openstoragepod.org/ ... it is remarkable how cheap DIY NAS is getting... Thanks for the link. It says they were inspired by the Backblaze project. For those not familiar, Backblaze is in the business of providing online storage, and they published the plans for the low-cost petabyte storage servers they used internally: http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ This is great to see, and I've looked into some of the components they use, like the SATA port multiplier backplanes, but Backblaze and OpenStoragePod are interested in solving the problem for petabyte-scale storage, which is an order of magnitude (or two or three) beyond what I'm interested in at the moment. I had hoped to see multiple vendors start offering the SATA backplanes, but years later the item is still hard to find. Compared to the enterprise alternatives, a Backblaze is a bargain, but much of it doesn't scale down cost effectively to 6 ~ 12 drives. They paid $748 for their steel enclosure alone. A smaller one would obviously cost less, but any custom enclosure is going to run $200+. What's on the market for small-scale NASs is already cheap by enterprise standards. But there is still a noticeable server tax on these small system. At least some of it is justifiable due to lower volumes. So it is a harder problem to solve. -Tom -- Tom Metro Venture Logic, Newton, MA, USA Enterprise solutions through open source. Professional Profile: http://tmetro.venturelogic.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux Unix AIM abreauj / JABBER j...@jabber.blu.org / YAHOO abreauj / SKYPE zusa_it_mgr Email j...@blu.org / WWW http://www.abreau.net / PGP-Key-ID 0xD5C7B5D9 PGP-Key-Fingerprint 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] D-I-Y NAS enclosures, Backblaze
On Fri, July 29, 2011 2:57 pm, John Abreau wrote: Sounds about right. A few years ago I paid $779 for a 12-disk enclosure from newegg, plus another $120 for a 1U server from ebay to run the thing. Right now you can pay ~$350 for a 20-disk enclosure from NewEgg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219033 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021 These get you 20 SATA/SAS hot-swap bays PLUS space to place a MOBO and controller! You just need to supply the motherboard and SATA cards/multiplexers, cables, etc to make your NAS server! -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] D-I-Y NAS enclosures, Backblaze
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Daniel Feenberg feenb...@nber.org wrote: On Fri, 29 Jul 2011, John Abreau wrote: Sounds about right. A few years ago I paid $779 for a 12-disk enclosure from newegg, plus another $120 for a 1U server from ebay to run the thing. And what would be wrong with the Antec Twelve Hundred case, available from Microcenter for $185? From what I can tell, most of the drive bays are internal and as a result not hot swappable. It you can schedule downtime to replace a drive in your RAID array, then maybe that doesn't matter to you. Bill Bogstad ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
