Re: [Discuss] Verizon Landline Strikes Again
2015-02-27 11:21 GMT-05:00 Bill Horne : > On 2/26/2015 4:14 PM, Bouman MC wrote: > >> Fact1: I choose dial up landline service as a brass tacks answer to >> hacking: Hacking can't happen, unless someone climbs a pole. >> > > Sorry, that's not correct. Once you connect to the Internet, you're just > like every other Verizon user, no matter which "physical layer" you use to > get online. Yes, no matter what the physical layer, I'm no different. But dial up is a case of out of sight, out of mind. Do I really need my router to come up on somebody else's laptop along with 15 other local routers? I think no. I still believe the "climb the pole" concept, primitive tho it is has it's operational value. > > > Fact 2: Verizon has disconnected dial up landline without admitting it to >> anyone. But they are still billing. >> > > Do you mean that Verizon no longer offers a dial-up, modem-based access, > or that they have disconnected your phone line? I mean they summarily have transposed all dial up accounts to a wireless venue. The dial up phone # works, and connects to the server (1 mile from me) but all IP addresses to all search engines are now blocked. Yes, improbable tho that may be, that's the case. Every 6 weeks or so, the password doesn't work, and I have to call Verizon and sit on hold so I can hear a droid read from a flowchart apologizing for any inconvenience and offering to "fix" it. Nothing was broken, the password was changed internally. How did this happen? I think the NSA swept thru and ignorant beaurocrats failed to cover their tracks because they are guaranteed a paycheck 52 weeks/yr with no fear of employment termination. If this theory is false, how do you explain the fact that the newly assigned User Name on the wireless and landline are now not only the same (wasn't Verizon Landline & Verizon wiresless two different corporate entities?) but the new Acct Name is now a composite of my home phone # and first four digits of my last name? I'm not stupid. > > > Result: As I write, landline dial up to all search engines (but not other >> web sites) has been blocked to my internet connection. I can send but not >> receive mail. >> > > Well, then, you have /some/ connectivity. That tends to obviate problems > in the physical layer, so please tell us more about the problem. > > See above point. > This is an outrage. The customer service in India can't speak >> our language and verizon pretends that they're gonna "fix" it, except that >> they can't and just transfer you to someone else. By the way, I don't need >> a technican, cust support and any other clown at the end of an 800 line. >> > > And Verizon doesn't need any complaints from customers, so they hire firms > 7,605 miles away to give the impression that they care about you. As others > have suggested, you must bypass them. > > Yes, I have wireless (which is how you got this message) but that's not the >> point. >> > > Do you mean that you have email access via a cellular phone, or that > you're using a WiFi hotspot? It's important. > > I use either somebody else's router (with permission) or my own wireless account, which is separate from the dial up. > When are We, the People going to stand up for our rights in this >> country and start running it again, instead of letting the oligarchy that >> is draining our taxes and right of access run over us with a tank? >> Remember >> the Iron Curtain? Remember Radio Free Europe? What's the difference >> between >> then and now? >> > > We have cable TV. > > Bill > > I continue to maintain that this country is being walked all over by the > government. We finance them rationing our lives, our liberties and our > freedom of speech. > > > -- > E. William Horne > 339-364-8487 > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@blu.org > http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Verizon Landline Strikes Again
On 2/26/2015 4:14 PM, Bouman MC wrote: Fact1: I choose dial up landline service as a brass tacks answer to hacking: Hacking can't happen, unless someone climbs a pole. Sorry, that's not correct. Once you connect to the Internet, you're just like every other Verizon user, no matter which "physical layer" you use to get online. Fact 2: Verizon has disconnected dial up landline without admitting it to anyone. But they are still billing. Do you mean that Verizon no longer offers a dial-up, modem-based access, or that they have disconnected your phone line? Result: As I write, landline dial up to all search engines (but not other web sites) has been blocked to my internet connection. I can send but not receive mail. Well, then, you have /some/ connectivity. That tends to obviate problems in the physical layer, so please tell us more about the problem. This is an outrage. The customer service in India can't speak our language and verizon pretends that they're gonna "fix" it, except that they can't and just transfer you to someone else. By the way, I don't need a technican, cust support and any other clown at the end of an 800 line. And Verizon doesn't need any complaints from customers, so they hire firms 7,605 miles away to give the impression that they care about you. As others have suggested, you must bypass them. Yes, I have wireless (which is how you got this message) but that's not the point. Do you mean that you have email access via a cellular phone, or that you're using a WiFi hotspot? It's important. When are We, the People going to stand up for our rights in this country and start running it again, instead of letting the oligarchy that is draining our taxes and right of access run over us with a tank? Remember the Iron Curtain? Remember Radio Free Europe? What's the difference between then and now? We have cable TV. Bill -- E. William Horne 339-364-8487 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Verizon Landline Strikes Again
Bouman MC wrote: > Fact1: I choose dial up landline service as a brass tacks answer to > hacking: Hacking can't happen, unless someone climbs a pole. I'm not following your reasoning. Can you elaborate on why you believe this to be the case? > Fact 2: Verizon has disconnected dial up landline without admitting it to > anyone. But they are still billing. I agree with the other poster's suggestion to switch your dial-up service to a smaller, independent ISP. It doesn't surprise me that Verizon has forgotten that they still provide this service. I'm rather surprised to hear that they (claim to) still provide it. -Tom -- Tom Metro The Perl Shop, Newton, MA, USA "Predictable On-demand Perl Consulting." http://www.theperlshop.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Verizon Landline Strikes Again
Bouman MC writes: > Fact1: I choose dial up landline service as a brass tacks answer to > hacking: Hacking can't happen, unless someone climbs a pole. > Fact 2: Verizon has disconnected dial up landline without admitting it to > anyone. But they are still billing. > Result: As I write, landline dial up to all search engines (but not other > web sites) has been blocked to my internet connection. I can send but not > receive mail. This is an outrage. The customer service in India can't speak > our language and verizon pretends that they're gonna "fix" it, except that > they can't and just transfer you to someone else. By the way, I don't need > a technican, cust support and any other clown at the end of an 800 line. > > Yes, I have wireless (which is how you got this message) but that's not the > point. When are We, the People going to stand up for our rights in this > country and start running it again, instead of letting the oligarchy that > is draining our taxes and right of access run over us with a tank? Remember > the Iron Curtain? Remember Radio Free Europe? What's the difference between > then and now? > > Think about it. Hard. SDF has local phone numbers. You could get an account with them and use their numbers instead of connecting to Verizon. They're definitely not the oligarchy. Are there still CLECs in MA? If so perhaps you could completely dump Verizon. http://sdf.org/?dialup I just looked and theworld still has dialup too, $5/mth. Not very much disk space in their shell/mail accounts, though. How do you find browsing the web with dialup? Is it mostly doable (before whatever changed with Verizon)? I'm thinking about this option if my roommate moves out. Most of what needs high bandwidth is stuff I don't want to see or can get another way, I think. I'd think with aggressive noscript, adblock and requestpolicy settings it might be okay. And I could say to my sister, "sorry, I have only dialup now, so I can't watch those 10 youtube videos you sent me." Would rdp over a vpn be possible with dialup? I know rdesktop has "experience" settings nominally for a 56 kbps modem, but I wonder if that works acceptably well in practice. -- Mike Small sma...@panix.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] Verizon Landline Strikes Again
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 04:14:51PM -0500, Bouman MC wrote: > Fact1: I choose dial up landline service as a brass tacks answer to > hacking: Hacking can't happen, unless someone climbs a pole. > Fact 2: Verizon has disconnected dial up landline without admitting it to > anyone. But they are still billing. > Result: As I write, landline dial up to all search engines (but not other > web sites) has been blocked to my internet connection. I can send but not > receive mail. This is an outrage. The customer service in India can't speak > our language and verizon pretends that they're gonna "fix" it, except that > they can't and just transfer you to someone else. By the way, I don't need > a technican, cust support and any other clown at the end of an 800 line. Have you talked to the regulating authority? In MA, for example, start with the Consumer Division of the Department of Telecommunications and Energy, and escalate to the Attorney General's office. If you copy Verizon's execs on this, you probably won't have to get up to the AG. -dsr- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[Discuss] Verizon Landline Strikes Again
Fact1: I choose dial up landline service as a brass tacks answer to hacking: Hacking can't happen, unless someone climbs a pole. Fact 2: Verizon has disconnected dial up landline without admitting it to anyone. But they are still billing. Result: As I write, landline dial up to all search engines (but not other web sites) has been blocked to my internet connection. I can send but not receive mail. This is an outrage. The customer service in India can't speak our language and verizon pretends that they're gonna "fix" it, except that they can't and just transfer you to someone else. By the way, I don't need a technican, cust support and any other clown at the end of an 800 line. Yes, I have wireless (which is how you got this message) but that's not the point. When are We, the People going to stand up for our rights in this country and start running it again, instead of letting the oligarchy that is draining our taxes and right of access run over us with a tank? Remember the Iron Curtain? Remember Radio Free Europe? What's the difference between then and now? Think about it. Hard. MCBouman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
