Re: [Discuss] GMail doesn't recognize mailing lists
On 11/07/2011 05:20 PM, Ricker, William wrote: Yeah, it would be nice if I had a third button to not sent Greg and Jerry an extra copy (as I likely will "forget" to take the time to drag&drop Discuss from Cc to To, and drop Jerry and Greg direct, as I would do if I had old school email manners). Reply-all is fine as long as you're using mailman (mailman is smart enough to not send two copies to Greg and Jerry; majordart and other inferior mailing-list managers are not). Matt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] GMail doesn't recognize mailing lists
>> extra "reply list" button. >Exactly Reply-List is nice, but as long as the client has both Reply-Sender & Reply-All, I can live with it. Here at $DayJob, that's the two buttons Outlook provides, same as Gmail. Yeah, it would be nice if I had a third button to not sent Greg and Jerry an extra copy (as I likely will "forget" to take the time to drag&drop Discuss from Cc to To, and drop Jerry and Greg direct, as I would do if I had old school email manners). Yeah, Google's excuse is they have to be at least as functional as Outleak. :-( If enough of us request Reply-List on their feedback pages, maybe they'll add it. Bill Not speaking for the Firm ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] GMail doesn't recognize mailing lists
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Jerry Feldman wrote: > On 11/03/2011 12:30 AM, Daniel C. wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) > > wrote: > >> Why doesn't GMail reply to list by default?! Does this lack of feature > bug > >> you? > > Gmail is behaving correctly. The reply-to header is set by the > > mailing list administrator, and should be obeyed by the mail client. > > If you want this list to reply to list by default, feel free to argue > > your case here but be warned that this topic is almost always a sticky > > morass of flames, dogma and other unpleasantness. > No, that is not what Greg is talking about. > For instance on Thunderbird, when I get email from a listserv, I have an > extra "reply list" button. I also know that claws has this feature also. > The client detects the email is from a listserv and sets up that buttoin > automatically. it has nothing to do with how the list admin sets the > reply header. > > Exactly -- Greg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] GMail doesn't recognize mailing lists
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Daniel C. wrote: > If you want this list to reply to list by default, feel free to argue > your case here but be warned that this topic is almost always a sticky > morass of flames, dogma and other unpleasantness. Any such argument will be pointless. This list has been in operation for 17 years now, and the argument was settled long ago. Basically, most list members expressed no preference. The tiny minority that did express a preference was split roughly 50-50, and both sides generally seemed to feel that their way was the One True Way and that only a drooling moron could possibly disagree with their side. There are solid arguments for both sides, so it cannot be resolved on technical grounds. And voting on the question would not resolve anything, it would either change nothing, or merely swap which half of the tiny minority was unhappy. Actually, that's not entirely accurate. Arbitrarily changing the list behavior any time someone wanted a new vote would be disruptive to the silent majority that don't care which way it's set but who expect the list to behave consistently. So if you want to argue your case on the Reply-To matter, you should know that at best, your argument will be ignored by the list admins. We consider the matter to be closed. -- John Abreau / Executive Director, Boston Linux & Unix OLD GnuPG KeyID: D5C7B5D9 / Email: abre...@gmail.com OLD GnuPG FP: 72 FB 39 4F 3C 3B D6 5B E0 C8 5A 6E F1 2C BE 99 2011 GnuPG KeyID: 32A492D8 / Email: abre...@gmail.com 2011 GnuPG FP: ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] GMail doesn't recognize mailing lists
On 11/03/2011 12:30 AM, Daniel C. wrote: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) > wrote: >> Why doesn't GMail reply to list by default?! Does this lack of feature bug >> you? > Gmail is behaving correctly. The reply-to header is set by the > mailing list administrator, and should be obeyed by the mail client. > If you want this list to reply to list by default, feel free to argue > your case here but be warned that this topic is almost always a sticky > morass of flames, dogma and other unpleasantness. No, that is not what Greg is talking about. For instance on Thunderbird, when I get email from a listserv, I have an extra "reply list" button. I also know that claws has this feature also. The client detects the email is from a listserv and sets up that buttoin automatically. it has nothing to do with how the list admin sets the reply header. -- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id:3BC1EB90 PGP Key fingerprint: 49E2 C52A FC5A A31F 8D66 C0AF 7CEA 30FC 3BC1 EB90 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] GMail doesn't recognize mailing lists
"Daniel C." writes: > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) > wrote: >> Why doesn't GMail reply to list by default?! Does this lack of feature bug >> you? > > Gmail is behaving correctly. The reply-to header is set by the > mailing list administrator, and should be obeyed by the mail client. > If you want this list to reply to list by default, feel free to argue > your case here but be warned that this topic is almost always a sticky > morass of flames, dogma and other unpleasantness. "Reply" should reply to the original sender, not to the list. That is what the "Reply-to-List" and "Reply-All" functionality is for. > -Dan -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH warl...@mit.eduPGP key available ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [Discuss] GMail doesn't recognize mailing lists
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Greg Rundlett (freephile) wrote: > Why doesn't GMail reply to list by default?! Does this lack of feature bug > you? Gmail is behaving correctly. The reply-to header is set by the mailing list administrator, and should be obeyed by the mail client. If you want this list to reply to list by default, feel free to argue your case here but be warned that this topic is almost always a sticky morass of flames, dogma and other unpleasantness. -Dan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
