Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Community starts 50, 000 Euro challenge for setting-up its foundation

[Florian Effenberger]

Thanks a lot for your support!

yahoo-pier_andreit wrote on 2011-02-16 21.18:

just donated:-)


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Re: [tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Community starts 50, 000 Euro challenge for setting-up its foundation

[yahoo-pier_andreit]

Il 16/02/2011 13:18, Florian Effenberger ha scritto:
> LibreOffice Community starts 50,000 Euro challenge for setting-up its
> foundation

just donated :-)

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[tdf-discuss] FOSDEM LibreOffice talk now available as video

[Michael]

Hi,

I have not seen any notice about it on this list, so just in case you are not 
already aware of it:
The great talk Liberating Open Office Development from Michael Meeks presented 
at this years FOSDEM is available as a video on 
http://video.fosdem.org/2011/maintracks/

Regards,
Michael

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Help with telling the story Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility: What's the story?

[drew]

On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 17:30 +, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Hi Joanie,
> 
> On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 16:24 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > > * Is there an active a11y team and/or developers focused on
> > >   a11y issues in LibreOffice?
> > 
> > Sure there are people with a focus on this. I am not sure if we 
> > actually can speak of 'a team'.
> 
>   Quite - whether there is a team at OO.o is a similar question ;-) there
> are people who can help fix problems. From ORCA's perspective, I created
> the design, prototype, and ~50% of the existing atk bridge in vcl; so I
> wouldn't fret that we are skill-less in this area :-)
> 
>   Furthermore, it is far easier to work on LibreOffice process-wise to
> get fixes in, so I anticipate (over time) a better accessibility
> experience; and of course we welcome patches (on the dev list).
> 

Hi,

If I may change the subject here for a moment.

When lasted I noted any comment on the OO.o lists with regard to the
IAccessibilty code coming from IBM, IIRC, the comment was that it was
'not yet integrated' - I don't know if that is still true.

From LibreOffice stand point, I am not sure I have heard what the plan
is, would that integration be merged here? (if the answer is still don't
know till we see it - that's a valid answer)

I remember watching the session on accessibility at the last OOoConn and
I know there was a MS rep there, as I remember you had some small
interaction. I'm don't know then if your (the dev teams) thoughts are to
look for the integration coming via OO.o/IBM or if you are looking at
going a different route.

Please don't feel you need to respond directly - if there are some
references already (other emails, blogs) it would be great if anyone
could point in the direction of those.

This next period there are number of shows in the US and the question of
accessibility is treated quite directly in this area. I was thinking of
trying to create a small reference piece for the booth staff at the
shows with some information on this subject (within this next 2 weeks -
to make the first show): LIbreOffice support for accessibility
technologies (current and future) [or something similar]

I'm starting with the assumption that anything relating to OO.o 3.3
would be correct also for Libo 3.3 - correct assumption?

Beyond that - I'm not asking for a direct response here to this email,
but if that assumption is not correct, or there are actual plans for a
different direction for integration it would be much appreciated if
anyone could direct some links my way, I will read and assemble a
smaller flyer type piece, then ask folks to review it.

Thanks for your time,

Drew


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

[Michael Meeks]

Hi Christophe,

This question prolly belongs best on the dev list.

On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 15:28 +0100, Christophe Strobbe wrote:
> 1. Now imagine that I contribute code to LibreOffice and the 
> contribution is accepted. Is it then still acceptable (from a 
> copyright point of view) to sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and 
> submit the same code to OpenOffice.org?

Yes - on the other hand, this creates more work for LibreOffice, and
(of course) lots of work for you submitting code to OO.o - signing and
faxing a form, CWS creation, etc. etc. That's fine of course by me, but
when it comes to merging (the inevitably different) changes from OO.o it
just makes even more work when we merge that stuff in. So this practise
is essentially not recommended.

> 2.b. Can I contribute the code to LibreOffice while the acceptance of 
> my patch to OpenOffice.org is still pending?

So - if it is licensed under LGPLv3+/MPL we are happy to accept it -
please post it to the dev list, we're eager to see it :-) if Oracle owns
the copyright[1], but you can license it to us under LGPLv3+/MPL, I (for
one) don't much mind who owns it :-)

But again, you consume LibreOffice engineering resource doing merging
changes, and our life is easier if you don't do that in most cases :-)

ATB,

Michael.

[1] - and their assignment-cum-license is a pretty thorough way of
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Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility: What's the story?

[Michael Meeks]

Hi Joanie,

On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 16:24 +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > * Is there an active a11y team and/or developers focused on
> >   a11y issues in LibreOffice?
> 
> Sure there are people with a focus on this. I am not sure if we 
> actually can speak of 'a team'.

Quite - whether there is a team at OO.o is a similar question ;-) there
are people who can help fix problems. From ORCA's perspective, I created
the design, prototype, and ~50% of the existing atk bridge in vcl; so I
wouldn't fret that we are skill-less in this area :-)

Furthermore, it is far easier to work on LibreOffice process-wise to
get fixes in, so I anticipate (over time) a better accessibility
experience; and of course we welcome patches (on the dev list).

All the best,

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Re: [tdf-discuss] REVIEW ARTICLE: VITAL reading for LibreOffice developers, users, supporters

[Kürti László]

John,

I'm not with you with this interpretation of the compatibility issues

>> These include compatibility with MS Office XML and 2010 files, 
>> Presentation having limited PowerPoint features, and a few others that 
>> the article mentions.

the problem is keeping the standards or not.
this is a mission impossible being compatible with closed MS formats, as you 
might know well MS doesn't even keep it's own standard bought from ISO

In this point, I suggest we have to show some toughness and we should show up a 
bit about MS indolent if not malicious behavior.

Laszlo

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[tdf-discuss] Re: REVIEW ARTICLE: VITAL reading for LibreOffice developers, users, supporters

[Marc Paré]

Le 2011-02-16 11:45, Joe Rotello a écrit :

Almost VITAL reading for LibreOffice developers, users, and supporters:

http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/open-office-dilemma-openofficeorg-vs-libreoffice-716?page=0,0&source=IFWNLE_nlt_daily_2011-02-16


PLEASE... might recommended that one pay particular attention to what
is/are found as weaknesses in BOTH OpenOffice and LibreOffice.

The reasoning is that these weakness areas MUST be addressed and SOON,
as the weakness seen will almost assuredly "turn off" many potential
users and LibreOffice adopters, even those the same basic weakness
described also afflict OpenOffice as well.

These include compatibility with MS Office XML and 2010 files,
Presentation having limited PowerPoint features, and a few others that
the article mentions.

Hope that this reading of the article brings many fruits to LibreOffice,
perhaps in 3.3.1 or the next release and Update.

Joe Rotello
WindowGroup / Knoxville, TN / USA



Thanks for the article Joe. Good reading. I am sure the devs will have a 
look at this too.


I have added this into our "LibreOffice in the Press" wiki page[1]

Cheers

Marc

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[tdf-discuss] REVIEW ARTICLE: VITAL reading for LibreOffice developers, users, supporters

[Joe Rotello]

Almost VITAL reading for LibreOffice developers, users, and supporters:

http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/open-office-dilemma-openofficeorg-vs-libreoffice-716?page=0,0&source=IFWNLE_nlt_daily_2011-02-16

PLEASE... might recommended that one pay particular attention to what 
is/are found as weaknesses in BOTH OpenOffice and LibreOffice.


The reasoning is that these weakness areas MUST be addressed and SOON, 
as the weakness seen will almost assuredly "turn off" many potential 
users and LibreOffice adopters, even those the same basic weakness 
described also afflict OpenOffice as well.


These include compatibility with MS Office XML and 2010 files, 
Presentation having limited PowerPoint features, and a few others that 
the article mentions.


Hope that this reading of the article brings many fruits to LibreOffice, 
perhaps in 3.3.1 or the next release and Update.


Joe Rotello
WindowGroup / Knoxville, TN / USA

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[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

[Bjoern Michaelsen]

Hi all,

IANAL and all that jazz, but ...

On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:45:43 +0100
"Charles-H. Schulz"  wrote:

> > 2. Conversely, if I sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and
> > submit code (and it gets accepted, otherwise the copyright reverts
> > to me), can I then still submit the same code to LibreOffice or
> > would that cause problems for LibreOffice (because Oracle now
> > shares copyright of the code I submitted)?
> 
> Yes. Actually that's what we do when we "pull" the OOo codebase over
> to us. 

... there is a slight difference: Whatever we pull from OOo is
currently LGPLv3 (no "or later"), while direct contributions can also
carry additional licenses. It is currently recommended to contribute
under "LGPLv3 (or later)/MPL".

Best Regards,

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility: What's the story?

[Olav Dahlum]

On 16/02/11 16:24, Cor Nouws wrote:
> Hi Joanie,
> 
> Joanmarie Diggs wrote (15-02-11 21:55)
> 
>> A question I've been wondering, and that Orca users are wondering, and
>> that the GNOME accessibility team is wondering is: What's the story with
>> LibreOffice accessibility? In particular:
>>
>> * Is the fork so complete that fixes made in OOo will not even be seen
>>-- or incorporated into LibreOffice even if they are seen? Or
>>
>> * Are things from OOo still being cherry picked for inclusion in
>>LibreOffice -- or would be if they were pointed out via bugzilla?
> 
> In general, yes.
> 
> 
>> Also:
>>
>> * Is there an active a11y team and/or developers focused on a11y issues
>>in LibreOffice?
> 
> Sure there are people with a focus on this.
> I am not sure if we actually can speak of 'a team'.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Cor
> 
> 

Well, I haven't had the time to reinstall my mate's computer with Orca and
GNOME yet, but I'll get there. Once that's done, it should be possible to
extract useful data for LibO.

Sincerely,
Olav Dahlum

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility: What's the story?

[Cor Nouws]

Hi Joanie,

Joanmarie Diggs wrote (15-02-11 21:55)


A question I've been wondering, and that Orca users are wondering, and
that the GNOME accessibility team is wondering is: What's the story with
LibreOffice accessibility? In particular:

* Is the fork so complete that fixes made in OOo will not even be seen
   -- or incorporated into LibreOffice even if they are seen? Or

* Are things from OOo still being cherry picked for inclusion in
   LibreOffice -- or would be if they were pointed out via bugzilla?


In general, yes.



Also:

* Is there an active a11y team and/or developers focused on a11y issues
   in LibreOffice?


Sure there are people with a focus on this.
I am not sure if we actually can speak of 'a team'.


Regards,
Cor


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[tdf-discuss] Re: Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

[Alexander Thurgood]

Le 16/02/11 15:28, Christophe Strobbe a écrit :

Hi Christophe,

> 
> 1. Now imagine that I contribute code to LibreOffice and the
> contribution is accepted. Is it then still acceptable (from a copyright
> point of view) to sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and submit the
> same code to OpenOffice.org?

Yes.


> 
> 2. Conversely, if I sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and submit
> code (and it gets accepted, otherwise the copyright reverts to me), can
> I then still submit the same code to LibreOffice or would that cause
> problems for LibreOffice (because Oracle now shares copyright of the
> code I submitted)?
> 2.b. Can I contribute the code to LibreOffice while the acceptance of my
> patch to OpenOffice.org is still pending?


Yes. Articles 2 and 4 of the OCA (see below for extracts) specifically
allow this kind of situation. The assignment provides for joint
ownership, or, in the worst case scenario, a non-exclusive, worldwide,
perpetual licence. You are allowed to do what you like with the
copyrights you retain as initial author.

"You agree that each of us can do all things in relation to your
contribution as if each of us were the sole owners, and if one of us
makes a derivative work of your contribution, the one who makes the
derivative work (or has it made) will be the sole owner of that
derivative work"

"you agree that neither of us has any duty to consult with, obtain the
consent of, pay or render an accounting to the other for any use or
distribution of your contribution."


Alex



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Und schon wieder eine Frage zu Übersetzungen

[Andre Schnabel]

Hi Karl-Heinz,

I guess, this was the wron list, so I'm sending to german list as well.
(Follow ups should be sent only there ;)

 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:38:08 +0100
> Von: "Karl-Heinz Gödderz" 
> An: LibO-global-discuss 
> Betreff: [tdf-discuss] Und schon wieder eine Frage zu Übersetzungen

> Hallo,
> 
> ich stoße in den englischen Texten ab und zu auf Schlagworte wie
> "dispatch framework". Gibt es eine Stelle, an der ich nachsehen kann,
> wie dieser Terminus technicus zu übersetzen ist, wenn überhaupt. Ich
> denke dabei insbesondere an eine Konsistenz zwischen Dokumentation,
> Onlinehilfe und Hilfe.


Ich hatte angefangen, die Terminologie in Pootle zu pflegen [1]. 
Allerdings enthält diese bisher nur extrem wenige Begriffe, da ich 
zunächst nur das ertfasst habe, wo es bei den Letzten Übersetzungen 
Probleme bzw. Rückfragen gab.

Vorschlag: 
Sende fragliche Passagen (möglichst mit Referenz auf einen kompletten 
Absatz) an die de-discuss liste. Dort können wir uns dann einigen
und die formulierung in die Pootle terminologie aufnehmen.

Gruß,

André

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Sorry wrong list Re: [tdf-discuss] Und schon wieder eine Frage zu Übersetzungen

[Karl-Heinz Gödderz]

Am 16.02.2011 15:38, schrieb Karl-Heinz Gödderz:
> Hallo,
>
> ich stoße in den englischen Texten ab und zu auf Schlagworte wie
> "dispatch framework". Gibt es eine Stelle, an der ich nachsehen kann,
> wie dieser Terminus technicus zu übersetzen ist, wenn überhaupt. Ich
> denke dabei insbesondere an eine Konsistenz zwischen Dokumentation,
> Onlinehilfe und Hilfe.
>
> Gruß
> Karl-Heinz   
>


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Re: [tdf-discuss] Accessibility: What's the story?

[Christophe Strobbe]

Hi,

These are important questions that I also wanted to ask, especially 
in the light of IBM's contribution of an IAccessible2 implementation 
to OpenOffice.org, which would significantly improve accessibility on 
Windows. After describing what I know about OOo accessibility on 
Windows on the LibO accessibility mailing list [1], one of the 
questions that I am interested in is whether that IAccessible2 
implementation would also become available in LibreOffice or whether 
it would have to be redeveloped from scratch for LibreOffice (due to 
copyright / IP reasons, because I can't think of anything else).


[1] 

Best regards,

Christophe


At 21:55 15/02/2011, Joanmarie Diggs wrote:

Hey all.

A question I've been wondering, and that Orca users are wondering, 
and that the GNOME accessibility team is wondering is: What's the 
story with LibreOffice accessibility? In particular:


* Is the fork so complete that fixes made in OOo will not even be 
seen   -- or incorporated into LibreOffice even if they are seen? Or


* Are things from OOo still being cherry picked for inclusion 
in   LibreOffice -- or would be if they were pointed out via bugzilla?


Also:

* Is there an active a11y team and/or developers focused on a11y 
issues in LibreOffice?


And, yeah, I know: It's open source. And getting and building the 
code is a zillion times easier than is the case with OOo (for which 
I'm truly grateful). So I should just submit patches. :-) Let's 
pretend we've already had that discussion with the conclusion being 
that I sincerely promise to contribute as soon as I get caught up on 
my DayJob, Orca work, GNOME 3 issues, etc., etc. In meantime 
What's the story w.r.t. the questions above?


Oh, and yes, I already inquired on the accessibility list a couple 
of months ago. No one there seems to know and the only advice I got 
was to file bugs in both issue trackers. Thus if any of y'all can 
shed light on the situation it would be super.


Thanks in advance!
--joanie
Orca project lead
GNOME accessibility team



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Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Christophe, 

Le Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:28:43 +0100,
Christophe Strobbe  a écrit :

> Hi,
> 
> I have a question about licences and copyright. As many of you know, 
> contributing code to the core of OpenOffice.org requires that one 
> signs the Oracle Contributor Agreement [1] (which is identical to the 
> Sun Contributor Agreement). Extensions are exempt from this [2].

So, IANAL, I'm not Oracle, this is not a TDF official statement, don't
put your cat in the microwave, etc, etc

> 
> 1. Now imagine that I contribute code to LibreOffice and the 
> contribution is accepted. Is it then still acceptable (from a 
> copyright point of view) to sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and 
> submit the same code to OpenOffice.org?

Yes. 

> 
> 2. Conversely, if I sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and submit 
> code (and it gets accepted, otherwise the copyright reverts to me), 
> can I then still submit the same code to LibreOffice or would that 
> cause problems for LibreOffice (because Oracle now shares copyright 
> of the code I submitted)?

Yes. Actually that's what we do when we "pull" the OOo codebase over to
us. 

> 2.b. Can I contribute the code to LibreOffice while the acceptance of 
> my patch to OpenOffice.org is still pending?

Yes. 


Best,
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[tdf-discuss] Und schon wieder eine Frage zu Übersetzungen

[Karl-Heinz Gödderz]

Hallo,

ich stoße in den englischen Texten ab und zu auf Schlagworte wie
"dispatch framework". Gibt es eine Stelle, an der ich nachsehen kann,
wie dieser Terminus technicus zu übersetzen ist, wenn überhaupt. Ich
denke dabei insbesondere an eine Konsistenz zwischen Dokumentation,
Onlinehilfe und Hilfe.

Gruß
Karl-Heinz   

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Re: [tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

[Christian Lohmaier]

Hi Christophe,

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Christophe Strobbe
 wrote:
>
> 1. Now imagine that I contribute code to LibreOffice and the contribution is
> accepted. Is it then still acceptable (from a copyright point of view) to
> sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and submit the same code to
> OpenOffice.org?

Sure - also the other way round is possible, first contribute to OOo
and then commit the same code to LO - with the joint copyright
assignment you don't loose your own rights, you are free to submit
your code under whatever licence terms you please.

> 2. Conversely, if I sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and submit code
> (and it gets accepted, otherwise the copyright reverts to me),

You never loose the copyright, you just assign the same rights you
have on your code to Oracle as well, additionally.

ciao
Christian

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[tdf-discuss] Oracle Contributor Agreement and LibreOffice contributions

[Christophe Strobbe]

Hi,

I have a question about licences and copyright. As many of you know, 
contributing code to the core of OpenOffice.org requires that one 
signs the Oracle Contributor Agreement [1] (which is identical to the 
Sun Contributor Agreement). Extensions are exempt from this [2].


1. Now imagine that I contribute code to LibreOffice and the 
contribution is accepted. Is it then still acceptable (from a 
copyright point of view) to sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and 
submit the same code to OpenOffice.org?


2. Conversely, if I sign the Oracle Contributor Agreement and submit 
code (and it gets accepted, otherwise the copyright reverts to me), 
can I then still submit the same code to LibreOffice or would that 
cause problems for LibreOffice (because Oracle now shares copyright 
of the code I submitted)?
2.b. Can I contribute the code to LibreOffice while the acceptance of 
my patch to OpenOffice.org is still pending?


These are important questions for developers who don't want to take 
sides for or against OpenOffice.org or LibreOffice. If this has 
already been clarified in a wiki somewhere, please let me know. (I 
have searched the web but I haven't found any info on this.)


[1] 
[2] 
: 
Licensing FAQ: Contributing Works


Best regards,

Christophe

PS: As long as this issue has not been clarified, certain 
contributions will be published as an extension instead of a 
submission to the core.



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[tdf-discuss] Accessibility: What's the story?

[Joanmarie Diggs]

Hey all.

A question I've been wondering, and that Orca users are wondering, and
that the GNOME accessibility team is wondering is: What's the story with
LibreOffice accessibility? In particular:

* Is the fork so complete that fixes made in OOo will not even be seen
  -- or incorporated into LibreOffice even if they are seen? Or

* Are things from OOo still being cherry picked for inclusion in 
  LibreOffice -- or would be if they were pointed out via bugzilla?

Also:

* Is there an active a11y team and/or developers focused on a11y issues 
  in LibreOffice?

And, yeah, I know: It's open source. And getting and building the code
is a zillion times easier than is the case with OOo (for which I'm truly
grateful). So I should just submit patches. :-) Let's pretend we've
already had that discussion with the conclusion being that I sincerely
promise to contribute as soon as I get caught up on my DayJob, Orca
work, GNOME 3 issues, etc., etc. In meantime What's the story w.r.t.
the questions above?

Oh, and yes, I already inquired on the accessibility list a couple of
months ago. No one there seems to know and the only advice I got was to
file bugs in both issue trackers. Thus if any of y'all can shed light on
the situation it would be super.

Thanks in advance!
--joanie
  Orca project lead
  GNOME accessibility team


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[tdf-discuss] LibreOffice Community starts 50,000 Euro challenge for setting-up its foundation

[Florian Effenberger]

LibreOffice Community starts 50,000 Euro challenge for setting-up its 
foundation


German-based model provides best stability and safety for users, 
adopters, developers and enterprises

Race for funds open until March 21st

The Internet, February 16th, 2011 - The community around LibreOffice, 
the free office productivity suite, today announced its fifty-thousand 
Euro challenge for setting-up The Document Foundation as a legal entity. 
The race for funds is open until March 21st 2011, which marks the 
beginning of Spring in the northern hemisphere. All users - especially 
enterprises - are invited to donate to the capital stock of the future 
foundation.


"After thorough investigation, the Steering Committee came to the 
conclusion that a foundation based in Germany would provide the best 
stability, not only for our users, but also for adopters, developers and 
enterprises. For achieving this stability, a capital stock of at least 
50,000 Euros is considered best practice in Germany," says Florian 
Effenberger, Steering Committee member of The Document Foundation. "Now 
that we have our first release of LibreOffice, which has been downloaded 
and installed all around the world, the time has come to legally 
establish the future home for our community".


All donations will be used for setting-up The Document Foundation, and 
after the fifty thousand Euros has been collected for the capital stock, 
donations over the top of that sum will be fed directly into the future 
foundation's budget to cover operating costs. Should the race for funds 
not succeed, The Document Foundation will use the donations to 
incorporate itself in a different country that requires less capital 
stock, such as the United Kingdom.


To achieve their ambitious goal of a Foundation in Germany in just five 
weeks, the community has set-up a dedicated website with detailed 
information at http://challenge.documentfoundation.org The site will 
also give adopters, community members and corporate sponsors a voice, 
and will have special features rolled out at the accomplishment of each 
donation milestone.


"We have seen wide support from many organizations, and the amount of 
volunteer work that has been put into The Document Foundation is just 
amazing. Without people donating their free time, knowledge and 
creativity to what will be the future home of LibreOffice, we wouldn't 
be where we are today. However, volunteer work alone can't fund the 
necessary capital stock, which is why we have started a public race for 
donations, especially targeting contributions from enterprises and 
public administrations adopting LibreOffice, and those interested in an 
independent, vital and growing ecosystem around free office productivity 
software", Florian Effenberger adds.


Information about LibreOffice can be found at http://www.libreoffice.org
The home of The Document Foundation is at http://www.documentfoundation.org

About The Document Foundation
The Document Foundation has the mission of facilitating the evolution of 
the OOo Community into a new, open, independent, and meritocratic 
organization within the next few months. An independent Foundation is a 
better reflection of the values of our contributors, users and 
supporters, and will enable a more effective, efficient and transparent 
community. TDF will protect past investments by building on the 
achievements of the first decade, will encourage wide participation 
within the community, and will co-ordinate activity across the community.


Media Contacts for TDF
Florian Effenberger (Germany)
Mobile: +49 151 14424108 - E-mail: flo...@documentfoundation.org
Olivier Hallot (Brazil)
Mobile: +55 21 88228812 - E-mail: olivier.hal...@documentfoundation.org
Charles H. Schulz (France)
Mobile: +33 6 98655424 - E-mail: charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org
Italo Vignoli (Italy)
Mobile: +39 348 5653829 - E-mail: italo.vign...@documentfoundation.org

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Florian Effenberger 
Steering Committee and Founding Member of The Document Foundation
Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108
Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff

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