Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
Hi, Tanstaafl wrote on 2011-12-19 20:41: Well... the first beta is scheduled to be released in January, so I imagine it will be rtm by mid year, so if you were to start working on the logistics and infrastructure, and start a dialog with the mailman devs on how to migrate the users/settings from mlmmj to mailman, that you could be ready to go as soon as the release happens... let's see. At the moment, to be honest, we have so many important tasks to work on, that migrating a working and existing system to something different that involves a lot of work doesn't sound too attracting to me. ;) My plan would rather be to wait until Mailman is final, wait some time until other people made hands-on experience, and then consider it again. However, my personal timeline for that is set to 6 to 12 months, as I really don't consider that important, and there are dozens of important tasks on our agenda. Others may have a different point of view, of course. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Board of Directors at The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
On 2011-12-19 1:26 PM, Florian Effenberger wrote: I think migrating to Mailman 3 will take a while, since it requires lots of efforts to switch our mail system, I guess. I would wager that if whoever would be tasked with doing this was to ask nicely on the mailman-dev list, you would get lots of help with the migration to make it easy/smooth. Apart from that, Mailman 3 has not been released yet, so I would consider such an option to be realistic - if we want it at all - within 6 to 12 months. Well... the first beta is scheduled to be released in January, so I imagine it will be rtm by mid year, so if you were to start working on the logistics and infrastructure, and start a dialog with the mailman devs on how to migrate the users/settings from mlmmj to mailman, that you could be ready to go as soon as the release happens... But, obviously, it will not be without effort... Anyway, thats my .02 clad coins worth... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
Hi, Tanstaafl wrote on 2011-12-19 19:13: My quggestion was not to code this from scratch im mlmmj, it was to wait until Mailman3 is released, and simply migrate all of the lists to it - which fits in well with your last statement: I think migrating to Mailman 3 will take a while, since it requires lots of efforts to switch our mail system, I guess. Apart from that, Mailman 3 has not been released yet, so I would consider such an option to be realistic - if we want it at all - within 6 to 12 months. Florian -- Florian Effenberger Board of Directors at The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
On 2011-12-19 6:31 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote: Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-12-15 23:56: As well the proposal of Charles (Tanstaafl) of having a choice while subscribing is worth considering. Maybe there is a possibility to have a further subscribing mode with mlmmj. If possible, this might be not ideal, but should be no problem for a dev mind. But this is nothing to be in effect within days. indeed. I don't know if this approach makes sense - it causes more system load (because mails have to be processed twice), and needs development time. My quggestion was not to code this from scratch im mlmmj, it was to wait until Mailman3 is released, and simply migrate all of the lists to it - which fits in well with your last statement: Well, since it's Christmas soon anyways, and I am busy with "real life" things ;), I will keep my hands off this topic anyways for the moment. I still think we should do something soon, as the developers have been asking for a change for months, two of them we discussed - but I myself won't have time before next year, so let's leave it at that for now... -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
On 06/12/11 08:40, Michael Meeks wrote: > Grief, does anyone provide an embarrassing mail removal service ? if so, I'd like to use it ;-) There are a couple of companies that claim to provide that service. More precisely, they claim to be able to remove any negative content about you, or originated by you, anywhere on the Internet. They don't claim to be cheap, but they do claim to be effective. jonathon -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling
Hi, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-12-15 23:56: As well the proposal of Charles (Tanstaafl) of having a choice while subscribing is worth considering. Maybe there is a possibility to have a further subscribing mode with mlmmj. If possible, this might be not ideal, but should be no problem for a dev mind. But this is nothing to be in effect within days. indeed. I don't know if this approach makes sense - it causes more system load (because mails have to be processed twice), and needs development time. The good news: Since the beginning there is a volunteer from the admin team, happy to solve the issue. Not withdrawing his offer (well, thinking several times about it). - it's me! :o)) I'm in favor of switching off reply-to mangling, but without hurting valueable contributors, we urgently need. As I'm tired now, I'll stress that more in a (near ;o))) future mail and as well the following questions. Well, since it's Christmas soon anyways, and I am busy with "real life" things ;), I will keep my hands off this topic anyways for the moment. I still think we should do something soon, as the developers have been asking for a change for months, two of them we discussed - but I myself won't have time before next year, so let's leave it at that for now... Florian -- Florian Effenberger Board of Directors at The Document Foundation Tel: +49 8341 99660880 | Mobile: +49 151 14424108 Skype: floeff | Twitter/Identi.ca: @floeff -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted