[tdf-discuss] LO Feature...
I never joined the OOo mailing lists so it never got proposed there, and if there's a better TDF mailing list to post this to then please let me know so I may do so. I did, however, try to submit something to the ODF folks; but that never got any where. I've worked on proposals and similar kinds of documents in the past - where you split a single document up among a number of people, each writing a section, and have one person in charge of re-integrating everything again. Frankly, I'm quite surprised that Word doesn't have better support there - but that just means opportunities for OOo/LO and other F/OSS software. Please point me at how to do this in LO/OOo if this already exists, but essentially I'd like to do the following: 1. Create a master document (A.odt) 2. Create a master outline in the master document (A.odt - outline) 3. Create a sub-document (A.sub1.odt) from the master document with permission to only edit a certain section of the master outline. 4. Repeat #3 for each section of the outline as desired. 5. Join all sub-documents as the single master document - e.g. the many documents are viewable as a single document. 6. Apply a master set of formatting styles from the master document, overriding any formatting styles in the sub-documents. I kind of see this playing out in the files as follows: A. Each sub-document is its own file (ODT, etc.) B. LO/OOo Writer would generate the sub-documents from the master document C. When re-integrating the sub-documents, they would simply become part of the master document - the ODT/etc would be embedded into the ODT of the master document and a file reference would be provided to reference it; perhaps a master index.xml file would be used for linking everything. The ultimate goal is to have discreet modules of the document that can be handed out for others to write; they don't necessarily need to even have the outline from the master document - though they might. Each discreet module would then be seamlessly integrated back into the master document by simple linking - with the outline of the master document taking precedence. For example, the master document has 3 sections; each section (I, II, and III) are pushed out as discreet modules for others to write. Each writer sees an outline starting at one (I, 1, A, etc.) and writes their piece. When the document it relinked back into the master document, its internal outline then becomes the outline under the specified section. This should be possible to do recursively - e.g. the writer of a section II generates an outline II.A, II.B, II.C and does the same there. I'm pretty sure that the ODF format can support this. If OOo/LO cannot do this now, then that would be a great enhancement that could really help many in their work flows for developing proposals and any other kind of documents that are farmed out among a team in an organization like that. Ben -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Feature...
On Mon Nov 29 2010 13:14:25 GMT-0800 (PST) BRM wrote: I never joined the OOo mailing lists so it never got proposed there, and if there's a better TDF mailing list to post this to then please let me know so I may do so. I did, however, try to submit something to the ODF folks; but that never got any where. I've worked on proposals and similar kinds of documents in the past - where you split a single document up among a number of people, each writing a section, and have one person in charge of re-integrating everything again. Frankly, I'm quite surprised that Word doesn't have better support there - but that just means opportunities for OOo/LO and other F/OSS software. Please point me at how to do this in LO/OOo if this already exists, but essentially I'd like to do the following: 1. Create a master document (A.odt) 2. Create a master outline in the master document (A.odt - outline) 3. Create a sub-document (A.sub1.odt) from the master document with permission to only edit a certain section of the master outline. 4. Repeat #3 for each section of the outline as desired. 5. Join all sub-documents as the single master document - e.g. the many documents are viewable as a single document. 6. Apply a master set of formatting styles from the master document, overriding any formatting styles in the sub-documents. I kind of see this playing out in the files as follows: A. Each sub-document is its own file (ODT, etc.) B. LO/OOo Writer would generate the sub-documents from the master document C. When re-integrating the sub-documents, they would simply become part of the master document - the ODT/etc would be embedded into the ODT of the master document and a file reference would be provided to reference it; perhaps a master index.xml file would be used for linking everything. The ultimate goal is to have discreet modules of the document that can be handed out for others to write; they don't necessarily need to even have the outline from the master document - though they might. Each discreet module would then be seamlessly integrated back into the master document by simple linking - with the outline of the master document taking precedence. For example, the master document has 3 sections; each section (I, II, and III) are pushed out as discreet modules for others to write. Each writer sees an outline starting at one (I, 1, A, etc.) and writes their piece. When the document it relinked back into the master document, its internal outline then becomes the outline under the specified section. This should be possible to do recursively - e.g. the writer of a section II generates an outline II.A, II.B, II.C and does the same there. I'm pretty sure that the ODF format can support this. If OOo/LO cannot do this now, then that would be a great enhancement that could really help many in their work flows for developing proposals and any other kind of documents that are farmed out among a team in an organization like that. Ben Hi Ben, Have you tried working with master documents? The User Guide is available on the OOo wiki at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide on the right hand side is a list of documents for Writer. That may not cover your points 100% but I think you will find it close. Andy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Feature...
Writer support master documents since many a year. Open your favourite template and go to File - Send - Master document: an .odm file will be created. Just create your subdocuments from the same template and you will be ok. Inside the master document and using the navigator (open it with F5), you will be able to insert your subdocuments and the styles defined on the master will have priority over the others. Maybe it have some issues, but it works and I already used it several times. 2010/11/29 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I never joined the OOo mailing lists so it never got proposed there, and if there's a better TDF mailing list to post this to then please let me know so I may do so. I did, however, try to submit something to the ODF folks; but that never got any where. I've worked on proposals and similar kinds of documents in the past - where you split a single document up among a number of people, each writing a section, and have one person in charge of re-integrating everything again. Frankly, I'm quite surprised that Word doesn't have better support there - but that just means opportunities for OOo/LO and other F/OSS software. Please point me at how to do this in LO/OOo if this already exists, but essentially I'd like to do the following: 1. Create a master document (A.odt) 2. Create a master outline in the master document (A.odt - outline) 3. Create a sub-document (A.sub1.odt) from the master document with permission to only edit a certain section of the master outline. 4. Repeat #3 for each section of the outline as desired. 5. Join all sub-documents as the single master document - e.g. the many documents are viewable as a single document. 6. Apply a master set of formatting styles from the master document, overriding any formatting styles in the sub-documents. I kind of see this playing out in the files as follows: A. Each sub-document is its own file (ODT, etc.) B. LO/OOo Writer would generate the sub-documents from the master document C. When re-integrating the sub-documents, they would simply become part of the master document - the ODT/etc would be embedded into the ODT of the master document and a file reference would be provided to reference it; perhaps a master index.xml file would be used for linking everything. The ultimate goal is to have discreet modules of the document that can be handed out for others to write; they don't necessarily need to even have the outline from the master document - though they might. Each discreet module would then be seamlessly integrated back into the master document by simple linking - with the outline of the master document taking precedence. For example, the master document has 3 sections; each section (I, II, and III) are pushed out as discreet modules for others to write. Each writer sees an outline starting at one (I, 1, A, etc.) and writes their piece. When the document it relinked back into the master document, its internal outline then becomes the outline under the specified section. This should be possible to do recursively - e.g. the writer of a section II generates an outline II.A, II.B, II.C and does the same there. I'm pretty sure that the ODF format can support this. If OOo/LO cannot do this now, then that would be a great enhancement that could really help many in their work flows for developing proposals and any other kind of documents that are farmed out among a team in an organization like that. Ben -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Feature...
- Original Message From: Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net snip Have you tried working with master documents? The User Guide is available on the OOo wiki at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide on the right hand side is a list of documents for Writer. That may not cover your points 100% but I think you will find it close. I had noticed it recently (really recently) and hadn't had a chance to play with it yet, but was not quite sure if it was the same as what I am describing. From what you an and RGB ES are saying it is - in which case, cool. That's one up for OOo/LO over Microsoft Office. Thanks! Ben -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [tdf-discuss] LO Feature...
On Mon Nov 29 2010 16:45:19 GMT-0800 (PST) BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net snip Have you tried working with master documents? The User Guide is available on the OOo wiki at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide on the right hand side is a list of documents for Writer. That may not cover your points 100% but I think you will find it close. I had noticed it recently (really recently) and hadn't had a chance to play with it yet, but was not quite sure if it was the same as what I am describing. From what you an and RGB ES are saying it is - in which case, cool. That's one up for OOo/LO over Microsoft Office. Thanks! Ben That is the process that Jean uses once the docs are done to produce the printable manuals for OOo. On the OOoAuthors site you can find copies of some the User Manuals that have been combined using a master document. http://www.oooauthors.org/english/userguide3/gs3/V32_published at the bottom of the list of chapters is an ODM with the full manual. Give it a look see. Andy -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to discuss+h...@documentfoundation.org Archive: http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/discuss/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
