Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Re: Soft-DVB DVB-T transmitter

2008-11-11 Thread rafael2k
Hello people,
I'm following the discussion about the Soft-DVB, and I'm thinking about use of 
the WBX0510 daughterboard (50 MHz to 1 GHz) w/ Soft-DVB - Will then be 
possible to transmitt in any VHF/UHF channel?

Bye,
Rafael Diniz

Em Tuesday 11 November 2008, Vincenzo Pellegrini escreveu:
> Martin ,
> sorry for the delay. My exams seem to have gone well even if it's not
> official yet. I also had to do a demo for a company I have a temporary
> contract with for developing some gnuradio based gsm-r security
> sentinels. Also the demo was smooth. (i already listed the project on
> the gnuradio wiki)
> so i really hope i'll be able to prepare the 8Mhz stream for you
> within the next 2/3 days. Would this still be useful?
>
> 2008/11/3, Martin DvH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 14:13 +0100, Martin DvH wrote:
> >> 
> >>
> >> >  Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Namens Vincenzo Pellegrini
> >>
> >> >  Verzonden: maandag 3 november 2008 0:16
> >> >  Aan: Martin DvH
> >> >  CC: discuss-gnuradio
> >> >  Onderwerp: [Discuss-gnuradio] Re: Soft-DVB DVB-T transmitter
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  This is Great... :)
> >> >
> >> >  Yup, the playback cannot be smooth because of the wrong throughput,
> >>
> >> definitely.
> >>
> >> >  Did you use the USRP1 with interpolation factor = 16 ?
> >>
> >> Yes I did.
> >>
> >> >  I can prepare a modulated signal with the correct throughput for
> >>
> >> you.. this is not a problem... :)
> >>
> >> Please do, this would be great.
> >>
> >> >  what hard disc are you playing your signal back from?
> >>
> >> Internal 2.5" harddisk of my acer 6930 notebook (Aspire 6930G-734G32BN
> >> LX.AVB0X.135)
> >> 2.5" 320GB HDD 5400rpm, SATA
> >
> > I checked now. It is a:
> > Western digital Scorpio 320 GB SATA (WDC WD3200BEVT-22ZCT0)
> > 2.5-inch SATA Hard Drive 320 GB, 3 Gb/s, 8 MB Cache, 5400 RPM
> >
> > Benchmark from tomshardware (h2benchw 3.6):
> > http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2-5-hard-drive-charts/Minimum-Read-Tra
> >nsfer-Performance,687.html minimum read transfer rate 33.5 MB/sec
> > average read transfer rate 52.2 MB/sec
> > maximum read transfer rate 68.2 MB/sec
> >
> >> I am not at home right now So I can't check the exact brand and model of
> >> the
> >> harddisk.
> >> It can do around 38 MB/sec so this is just enough (required 32 MB/sec)
> >>
> >> I also have 4GB of memory in this notebook, so I think it will buffer
> >> the complete file.
> >>
> >> I had to use my notebook because with my desktop PC (ASrock
> >> 939-DUAL-SATA2)
> >> The USB TX bandwidth is less then 32 MB/sec.
> >> (Which is strange because I CAN receive 32 MB/sec)
> >> I get UuUuUu on this machine when useing interpolation 16, so unusable.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> >  regards
> >> >
> >> >  vincenzo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >  2008/11/3 Martin DvH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>> > In fact: 8 complex Msps implement a 7 MHz channel while
> >>
> >> 9.142857143
> >>
> >>> > complex Msps implement an 8 MHz channel.
> >>> > Just try to go as close as possible to such sampling
> >>
> >> frequency by
> >>
> >>> > using USRP2 and let me know what happens... it could
> >>
> >> turn out that we
> >>
> >>> > need a resampler block.
> >>>
> >>> So if I use a fractional rate resampler with interpolation
> >>
> >> factor
> >>
> >>> 10/8=1.25 I get a 7 Mhz channel with 10 Msps samplerate.
> >>> If I use a fractional rate resampler with interpolation
> >>
> >> factor
> >>
> >>> 10/9.142857143=1.09375 I get a 8 Mhz channel with 10 Msps
> >>
> >> samplerate
> >>
> >>> If I use a fractional rate resampler with DECIMATION
> >>
> >> factor
> >>
> >>> 9.142857143/8=8/7=1.142857143 I get a 8 Mhz channel with 8
> >>
> >> Msps
> >>
> >>> samplerate with the out-of-band skirts folded back at the
> >>
> >> sides.
> >>
> >>> Would be interesting to see if this last one works with a
> >>
> >> USRP1.
> >>
> >>> I'll let you know how the experiments go.
> >>
> >>I resampled and scaled your ofdm_40.dump file so it now will
> >> use 8 Mhz bandwidth with a 8 Msps samplerate.
> >>The reception never can be perfect this way but it seems
> >> good enough for
> >>tests.
> >>
> >>My USB DVB-T receiver receives the transport stream without
> >> problems.
> >>Mplayer playes the stream without problem for two loops and
> >> then crashes
> >>with a broken frame.
> >>My standalone settopbox DVB-T receiver now also receives the
> >> stream.
> >>(8 MHz channel on UHF)
> >>It has big problems displaying it. Sound is only a chop of
> >> sound now and
> >>then and video stops, then runs for a second, then stops
> >> again.
> >>
> >>I think this is 

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] URSP/Gnuradio for amateur radio usage

2008-10-30 Thread rafael2k
Hi Tiller,

Wow, very nice to hear that!!!

Is there any code of this port already available?

bye,
rafael diniz

Em Friday 31 October 2008, Robert Tiller escreveu:
> The code is open source and being ported to Linux.  Integration with GNU
> Radio is being planned.
>
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:18 PM, rafael2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That one is nice. but the price is not that good, and the software runs
> > on Windows... (of course we could write the driver to gnuradio).
> > btw, back to our ursp/gnuradio, a friend that works w/ RF will try to
> > design a
> > board that conects to the LFTX w/ the stuff needed to transmit SSB and so
> > on.
> > If I get something, I email to the list.
> >
> > I already transmitted from gnuradio to a 2m amateur radio without any
> > add-on,
> > just the standard BasicTX.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > bye,
> > rafael diniz
> >
> > Em Wednesday 29 October 2008, Robert Tiller escreveu:
> > > The transmitter is being designed now...
> > >
> > > From the QS1R Yahoo group:
> > >
> > > "The SRL QS1R features expandability with an I2C and SPI/Microwire
> > > expansion bus. Also planned is a PCI interface version of the QS1R with
> > > accompanying DAC/transmitter board as well as various VHF/UHF/Microwave
> > > add-on boards."
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Robert Tiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > And do not forget the new QS1
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.philcovington.com/QuickSilver/
> > > >
> > > > I guess it's helpful to see some validation of USRP2 pricing. :) (It
> > > > looks like a RX only USRP2 plus USB2.0 bottleneck, minus external
> > > > refclock)
> > > >
> > > > An RX only device doesn't meet Rafael's interest though:  Anyone
> > > > working on a GNU Radio driver for this thing?


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] URSP/Gnuradio for amateur radio usage

2008-10-29 Thread rafael2k
That one is nice. but the price is not that good, and the software runs on 
Windows... (of course we could write the driver to gnuradio).
btw, back to our ursp/gnuradio, a friend that works w/ RF will try to design a 
board that conects to the LFTX w/ the stuff needed to transmit SSB and so on.
If I get something, I email to the list.

I already transmitted from gnuradio to a 2m amateur radio without any add-on, 
just the standard BasicTX.
:)

bye,
rafael diniz

Em Wednesday 29 October 2008, Robert Tiller escreveu:
> The transmitter is being designed now...
>
> From the QS1R Yahoo group:
>
> "The SRL QS1R features expandability with an I2C and SPI/Microwire
> expansion bus. Also planned is a PCI interface version of the QS1R with
> accompanying DAC/transmitter board as well as various VHF/UHF/Microwave
> add-on boards."
>
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Gregory Maxwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Robert Tiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > And do not forget the new QS1
> > >
> > > http://www.philcovington.com/QuickSilver/
> >
> > I guess it's helpful to see some validation of USRP2 pricing. :) (It
> > looks like a RX only USRP2 plus USB2.0 bottleneck, minus external
> > refclock)
> >
> > An RX only device doesn't meet Rafael's interest though:  Anyone
> > working on a GNU Radio driver for this thing?



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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] URSP/Gnuradio for amateur radio usage

2008-10-28 Thread rafael2k
thats true Chris,
Thanks for the information.
but none runs gnuradio, usually PowerSDR is used.

bye,
rafael diniz


Em Monday 27 October 2008, Chris Albertson escreveu:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:36 PM, rafael2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There are others SDR radios out there that were made for amateurs, like
> > Flex5000, softrock and others, but they all use a stereo sound cable
> > connected to the PC soundcard as interface (at most 96kHZ and 20kHz
> > bandwidth), ..., ursp is much more powerfull.
>
> There are exceptions to your "they all use a stereo sound cable" rule.
>  One that you might want to look at is here http://hpsdr.org/  There
> are several sub projects within HPSDR.  Look at both of these:
> http://hpsdr.org/mercury.html
> http://hpsdr.org/penelope.html



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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] URSP/Gnuradio for amateur radio usage

2008-10-27 Thread rafael2k
Thanks Johnathan,
I'll try to get such amplifier and probably a passband filter.
I send the schematics to the list If I get something working.

There are others SDR radios out there that were made for amateurs, like 
Flex5000, softrock and others, but they all use a stereo sound cable 
connected to the PC soundcard as interface (at most 96kHZ and 20kHz 
bandwidth), ..., ursp is much more powerfull.


bye,
Rafael Diniz

Em Monday 27 October 2008, Johnathan Corgan escreveu:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:08 PM, rafael2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'd like to know the output power I can get from a usrp 1, and if someone
> > has any experience with this kind of experiment, like what amplifiers to
> > use, what filters, and things like that.
>
> The maximum USRP1 output using the LFTX board is approximately 2V P-P
> into 50 ohms, or about 10 milliwatts rms.  Depending on your waveform
> peak to average ratio, your rms power will be less.
>
> On TX, to get to say, a max of 5W for QRP operation, you'd need a PA
> with at least 27 dB of gain.  For operation with SSB, this would have
> to be a linear amplifier.  For CW only, you could use a non-linear PA
> which would be easier to design.
>
> The LFRX board has no gain, and essentially just provides
> anti-aliasing filtering and impedance matching between the input at 50
> ohms and the analog-to-digital converter input circuitry.  You can
> think of it as having roughly a 55dB noise figure, so you'd need at
> least that much external low-noise amplification to get any sort of
> useful weak signal reception.(The 55dB figure was from an
> empirical measurement with a signal generator; YMMV.)
>
> Since the ADC is digitizing the entire 0-30 MHz spectrum, it would be
> essential to have a band filter ahead of the amplification, in order
> to avoid strong out-of-band signals limiting the amount of gain you
> could use.  In addition, you'd want some sort of analog AGC.
>
> Anyway, it's obvious the LFRX and LFTX were designed as baseband
> interface cards, not as an HF receiver or transceiver.  Still let us
> know what you come up with.  It's certainly possible, given the open
> design of the USRP1/USRP2, that you or someone else could design
> customer daughterboards that incorporate some or all of the above.
>
> -Johnathan (AE6HO)



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[Discuss-gnuradio] URSP/Gnuradio for amateur radio usage

2008-10-26 Thread rafael2k
Hello people,
I'm aiming to transmitt in some amateur radio bands, especially the 40m band.
The bands that LFRX and LFTX can cover are (considering the 30MHz lowpass 
filter):
1.8, 3.5, 5, 7, 10.1, 14, 21, 24.89, 28 MHz

I know gnuradio can do SSB and CW modulation :)
I'd like to know the output power I can get from a usrp 1, and if someone has 
any experience with this kind of experiment, like what amplifiers to use, 
what filters, and things like that.

Thanks,
Rafael Diniz

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] rfx900 wiki edit

2008-08-06 Thread rafael2k
Hi Vince,
Are you transmitting DVB w/ it?
I'm in the hope to transmitt ISDB-T :)

Bye,
Rafael Diniz

Em Tuesday 05 August 2008, Vincenzo Pellegrini escreveu:
> I was planning to edit the RFX900 wiki page like this, as promised in my
> previous email requiring info RFX900 gain
> I thought to submit the modification to the list before doing it
>
> thanks
>
> vincenzo
>
>
>
> = USRP Daugherboard: RFX900 =
>
> '''Specifications'''[[BR]]
>   __RX__: 800MHz - 1000MHz [[BR]]
>   __TX__: 800MHz - 1000MHz @ 200+mW [[BR]]
>
>   http://www.ettus.com/images/Flex900.jpg
>
> The board features an ISM band filter that suppresses the RF signal outside
> the 902-928 MHz band and attenuates it within such band by one dB or two.
>
> If usage of the board outside the ISM band is required, the filter can be
> bypassed by cutting the traces to the filter FIL.1 and soldering a 100pF
> capacitor in parallel to it.



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[Discuss-gnuradio] gnuradio .py applications

2008-07-27 Thread rafael2k
Hi,
I'd like to know if there is some other source of .py (for ursp especially) 
than the official svn.
Sometimes I see people discussing about some .py I don't have.


Thanks a lot,
Rafael Diniz

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[Discuss-gnuradio] using gnuradio as a amateur radio

2008-06-16 Thread rafael2k
Hi all,
I'm using gnuradio to receive and transmit to 2 meters amateur radio, and when 
I went to buy the cable, I didn't know what impedance should I use w/ the 
usrp. 50 ohm or 75 ohm?

Can I connect an amplifier to the basic-tx without any problem?

thanks
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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Which version of Linux is the most convenient, SuSE or Fedora or ...

2008-05-08 Thread rafael2k
Em Thursday 08 May 2008, Steve Totaro escreveu:
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Roshan Baliga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Zhenghao Zhang wrote:
> > > I am new to GNU radio and I was wondering which version of Linux you
> > > use. Is it SuSE or Fedora? I just want to know which is the most
> > > popular version of Linux for gnu radio such that I would have less
> > > problems working on it. I have a PC with CentOS and I cannot install
> > > gnu radio on it fully. Thanks very much for your time.
> >
> >  This page
> >
> >
> > http://gnuradio.org/trac/wiki/BuildGuide#OperatingSystemSpecificInstructi
> >ons
> >
> >  Includes direction for various flavors of GNU/Linux. My personal
> > experience is that Ubuntu and Fedora are fairly easy to use with
> > gnuradio.
> >
> >  -Roshan
>
> The distro instructions always failed in some way or another for me.
> Not that I could not run gnuradio, but certain dependencies for
> modules almost always failed.
>
> FC8 rocks now that gnuradio is in the repos.
>
> It is as easy as "yum install gnuradio"

to install gnuradio using slackware 12.1:

wget  
http://slack.sarava.org/packages/noarch/simplepkg-0.6pre27-noarch-1rha.tgz

installpkg simplepkg-0.6pre27-noarch-1rha.tgz

wget  
ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-12.1/extra/slacktrack/slacktrack-1.32-i486-1.tgz

installpkg slacktrack-1.32-i486-1.tgz

createpkg --sync

createpkg -i gnuradio

if you want to review the bash scripts that made the packages, take a look at:
/var/simplepkg/slackbuilds
/var/simplepkg/slackbuilds/media/radio/gnuradio

or, via web:
http://slack.sarava.org/slackbuilds/
http://slack.sarava.org/slackbuilds/media/radio/gnuradio/

bye,
rafael diniz

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Latest publications: about DAB and Soft-DVB

2008-05-07 Thread rafael2k
Ciao Vincenzo,
Grazie!

Is the video link correct?

Rafael Diniz

Em Tuesday 06 May 2008, Vincenzo Pellegrini escreveu:
> Hi Rafael,
> you can find the paper here:
> http://wwvince.interfree.it/PellegriniBacciLuise_WSR08_CR.pdf
>
> thanks for your interest.
>
> soon (one or two days) there will also be a video of the presentation in
> Karlsruhe (including a live Soft-DVB demonstration) here:
>
> www.legalepellegrini.it/Soft-DVB-Karlsruhe.mp4
>
> 2008/5/6 rafael2k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi all,
> > Can anyone make available the OFDM / DAB implementation by Jens Elsner,
> > which
> > original location was:
> > -  http://www.1c3.de/gr-dab.tar.bz2
> >
> > There is also a paper called:
> > -  V. Pellegrini, G. Bacci, M. Luise, "Soft-DVB, a Fully Software,
> > GNURadio
> > Based ETSI DVB-T Modulator", in Proc. WSR'08, Karlsruhe, Germany, March
> > 2008
> >
> > Can it be accessible via any University Online Library?


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[Discuss-gnuradio] Latest publications: about DAB and Soft-DVB

2008-05-05 Thread rafael2k
Hi all,
Can anyone make available the OFDM / DAB implementation by Jens Elsner, which 
original location was:
-  http://www.1c3.de/gr-dab.tar.bz2

There is also a paper called:
-  V. Pellegrini, G. Bacci, M. Luise, "Soft-DVB, a Fully Software, GNURadio  
Based ETSI DVB-T Modulator", in Proc. WSR'08, Karlsruhe, Germany, March 2008

Can it be accessible via any University Online Library?


Thanks,
Rafael Diniz
@ Campinas University

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GNU Radio in Fedora repo

2008-05-04 Thread rafael2k
if it's interesting for anyone,
We, at slack.sarava.org did SlackBuilds for gnuradio and grc for Slackware 
(along w/ it's dependencies):
http://slack.sarava.org/slackbuilds/media/radio/

bye,
rafael diniz


Em Sunday 04 May 2008, Steve Totaro escreveu:
> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Eric Blossom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 04:19:16PM +0200, Trond Danielsen wrote:
> >  > GNU Radio and related tools are now available from the Fedora
> >  > repository which should get you up and running in no time :-)
> >  >
> >  > Regard,
> >  > --
> >  > Trond Danielsen
> >
> >  That's great news Trond!
> >
> >  Thanks!
> >  Eric
>
> Very NICE!  I am yumming it right now on FC8 (28M).  Thanks Trond.
>
> Steve Totaro


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