Re: improving fellowship communication (GA motion)

2017-10-13 Thread Cornelia S.
Hallo Daniel!
Have you succeeded? Was the meeting held? I understnad this year was election 
of new president. Did you candidate? It seems many think new leadership is 
needed:

 http://lists.spi-inc.org/pipermail/spi-general/2017-October/003779.html

Regards,
Cornelia

>  Original Message 
> Subject: improving fellowship communication (GA motion)
> Local Time: October 2, 2017 8:10 AM
> UTC Time: October 2, 2017 8:10 AM
> From: dan...@pocock.pro
> To: FSFE Discussion 
> FSFE General Assembly 
>
> Hi all,
>
> Since being elected as one of the fellowship representatives, I've been 
> looking at various ways to perform this role effectively.
>
> For people who joined FSFE through the FSFE fellowship program, the 
> fellowship representatives are the most senior elected representatives 
> designated in the FSFE constitution[1] and therefore it would appear logical 
> to me that as the representatives, we would be the ones trusted to make 
> decisions about communication with our constituency.  In practice, however, 
> this is not the case and people in various parts of the organization (this 
> was discussed in the GA list) have expressed various concerns (e.g. data 
> protection laws, member expectations) for not empowering the fellowship 
> representatives to communicate directly with the people who voted for us.  
> The original request I sent to the GA is at the bottom of this email.
>
> Personally, I felt these concerns demonstrated a lack of trust and confidence 
> in the fellowship representatives and in fact even a lack of trust and 
> confidence in humanity to organize ourselves democratically.  Having served 
> in various representative roles in the past where membership lists were 
> always available to me I actually felt somewhat insulted by these responses 
> and uncertain about whether the fellowship representative role is meant to be 
> only an illusion of representation rather than an active representative.
>
> I put forward a motion for the GA meeting to address this for the future.  To 
> maximize the possibility of achieving consensus at the GA meeting (motions 
> are not usually voted on), the motion is not retrospective and does not 
> attempt to clarify the current status of membership data under privacy laws 
> or whatever else, it is only about avoiding further ambiguity in the future.
>
> To ensure the GA can understand how people feel, it would be interesting to 
> get opinions from the community:
>
> - when you join an organization such as FSFE and you provide personal data 
> such as your name and email address, do you expect that office holders and 
> elected representatives would have some access to this data in performing 
> their roles?
>
> - do you feel it is reasonable for people who are in a position of trust to 
> have some discretion in how they use the data as long as they do so in the 
> best interests of the organization, it's mission and it's members?  Or do you 
> believe the organization should strive to obfuscate the data so that even 
> office holders can't read it and put systems in place so communications are 
> sent out to members through an opaque process?
>
> - what are the practices you have seen in other community organizations in 
> the free software space and can we learn anything from them in developing 
> best practice?
>
> Proposed motion:
> The GA recognizes the stark difference between the way FSFE coordinates
> contributor data and other organizations are doing things.  FSFE
> supporter data is only available to Reinhard, Jones, system-hackers(?),
> ISP staff and third-parties involved in payment processing.  The GA
> resolves to let supporters choose to be a "silent" supporter who simply
> donates and expects nothing in return and contributors who choose to
> volunteer and are identifiable to other contributors through a PGP
> keyring, directory or other means.  Where somebody chooses to be in the
> former category, their personal data will remain under a somewhat
> default data protection regime (need-to-know access only) whereas if
> they choose to be in the latter category, they will be informed that a
> less stringent data protection policy is in effect.  Where somebody in
> the latter category (contributor) provides information that is only
> required to process a donation (credit card billing address, payment
> card details, etc), that information will remain under strict privacy
> controls.
>
> Background to this motion: In Debian, for example, all trusted
> contributors are identified in a publicly distributed PGP keyring and
> many more contributors are identified through resources like
> contributors.debian.org and the Ultimate Debian Database.  Many people
> feel that a de-centralized organization like this is more appropriate
> for robustness and for empowering volunteers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
> 1. https://fsfe.org/about/legal/constitution.en.html
>
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Re: an FSFE hackathon?

2017-11-24 Thread Cornelia S.
which community meeting is this? where is it and can we join? i have not seen 
it announced here.

Regards,
Cornelia

>  Original Message 
> Subject: Re: an FSFE hackathon?
> Local Time: November 24, 2017 9:46 AM
> UTC Time: November 24, 2017 9:46 AM
> From: dan...@pocock.pro
> To: discussion@lists.fsfe.org
>
> This might be a good topic for discussion at the community meeting this
> weekend.
>
> On 25/08/17 13:53, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Has there ever been an FSFE hackathon?
>> How would people feel about having such an event, or even a few small
>> hackathons in parallel?
>> Are there tasks that would be useful to FSFE and can be completed in one
>> or two days, either by an individual or small teams?
>> Would anybody have ideas about obtaining prizes, t-shirts or other
>> support for hackathon participants?
>> Hackathons can be particularly useful for potential Outreachy and GSoC
>> interns to become familiar with the free software community and also for
>> them to complete small pieces of code that help mentors identify which
>> candidates to shortlist.
>> Regards,
>> Daniel
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34C3

2018-01-11 Thread Cornelia S.
With all talk of a code of conduct, this ist the result:

https://blogs.fsfe.org/majestyx/2018/01/07/sold-out-majestyx-goes-to-chaos/#more-335

It is shameful, this coming from the FSFE.

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Re: impact of Gmail's "promotions" tab on free software communities

2018-01-25 Thread Cornelia S.
I can recommend Protonmail, it works very well with linux!

​Regards,
Cornelia



 Original Message 
 On January 25, 2018 10:09 AM, Daniel Pocock  wrote:

>
> There was a discussion in one community recently about essential emails
> not reaching new contributors because they get stuck in the Gmail
> "promotions" tab.
>
> This is quite concerning, for example, when Debian sends out the yearly
> announcement for DebConf travel grants / bursaries, if only the regular
> participants receive that email it undermines renewal and diversity in
> the organization.
>
> It is even worse if sending people an email that their talk proposal or
> travel grant is accepted and they don't see that email.
>
> I have a few questions about this:
>
> - are other communities who operate mailing lists or send announcements
> noticing a similar problem, for example, announcements not reaching
> people or lower participation in email discussions?
>
>
> - are people noticing it in their capacity as Gmail users / recipients
> of email?
>
>
> - are people consciously talking about the problem in other communities?
>
>
> - given the high percentage of people using Gmail, would it be
> reasonable to take countermeasures, for example, when somebody registers
> for an event, refusing to let them use a gmail address and giving them a
> link to a page with more details about the problem?
>
>
> - is there any particularly good web page we can point people to
> explaining the Gmail problem and giving them a concise list of
> alternatives so they can migrate quickly?
>
> Regards,
>
> Daniel
>
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Apply for membership now!

2018-01-31 Thread Cornelia S.
I have learnt the FSFE is abolishing their community representatives in their 
board (remember the Linux Foundation?)
You should apply to become voting member of the FSFE, to change this.
All you need an e-mail to m...@fsfe.org and say that you apply.
Please do it now! Copy me/list if you have done it, so we see who applies. I 
wil apply after FOSDEM.

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