Re: When will updatedb be completed?

2007-05-10 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick

On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 08:11 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
> On 5/11/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/10/07, Sebastian Macias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Do any of you guys when the django-admin.py updatedb command will be
> > > completed? updatedb is basically all django is missing for me and many
> > > developers at the company I work for to abandon CakePHP and move to
> > > django.
> >
> > As far as I know, none of the core development team are actively
> > working on any form of automated schema evolution. There is a branch,
> > but it is the responsibility of a volunteer who was writing the code;
> > if you're interested in seeing that code completed, the best thing to
> > do is contact the person who was working on it and see about
> > collaborating to finish the work.
> 
> There's actually two branches (schema-evolution and
> schema-evolution-ng); in addition to those, I can recall at least 2
> occasions in the last six months where someone has offered to work on
> schema-evolution..
> 
> Unfortunately, schema evolution seems to be a black hole for
> contributors. People offer to work on schema evolution, and they are
> never heard from again... :-)

This effort http://www.aswmc.com/dbmigration/ is actually a pretty good
(and recent) piece of work. It's not completely automatic (since that's
impossible), but it's reasonably easy to use.

Regards,
Malcolm



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Re: When will updatedb be completed?

2007-05-10 Thread Russell Keith-Magee

On 5/11/07, James Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 5/10/07, Sebastian Macias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Do any of you guys when the django-admin.py updatedb command will be
> > completed? updatedb is basically all django is missing for me and many
> > developers at the company I work for to abandon CakePHP and move to
> > django.
>
> As far as I know, none of the core development team are actively
> working on any form of automated schema evolution. There is a branch,
> but it is the responsibility of a volunteer who was writing the code;
> if you're interested in seeing that code completed, the best thing to
> do is contact the person who was working on it and see about
> collaborating to finish the work.

There's actually two branches (schema-evolution and
schema-evolution-ng); in addition to those, I can recall at least 2
occasions in the last six months where someone has offered to work on
schema-evolution..

Unfortunately, schema evolution seems to be a black hole for
contributors. People offer to work on schema evolution, and they are
never heard from again... :-)

Personally, I'm very keen to see schema evolution done (and done
well). I've got a whole lot of other stuff on my plate at the moment,
so I wouldn't count on schema evolution emerging from _my_ corner any
time soon. However, if some enterprising soul wants to make an effort,
I'm happy to help out wherever I can.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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Re: When will updatedb be completed?

2007-05-10 Thread Sebastian Macias

Hey James,

Do you have this person's contact info so we can coordinate the
completion of that function?

Thanks,

Sebastian

On May 10, 2:53 pm, "James Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5/10/07, Sebastian Macias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Do any of you guys when the django-admin.py updatedb command will be
> > completed? updatedb is basically all django is missing for me and many
> > developers at the company I work for to abandon CakePHP and move to
> > django.
>
> As far as I know, none of the core development team are actively
> working on any form of automated schema evolution. There is a branch,
> but it is the responsibility of a volunteer who was writing the code;
> if you're interested in seeing that code completed, the best thing to
> do is contact the person who was working on it and see about
> collaborating to finish the work.
>
> --
> "Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct -- the best kind of correct."


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Re: When will updatedb be completed?

2007-05-10 Thread James Bennett

On 5/10/07, Sebastian Macias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do any of you guys when the django-admin.py updatedb command will be
> completed? updatedb is basically all django is missing for me and many
> developers at the company I work for to abandon CakePHP and move to
> django.

As far as I know, none of the core development team are actively
working on any form of automated schema evolution. There is a branch,
but it is the responsibility of a volunteer who was writing the code;
if you're interested in seeing that code completed, the best thing to
do is contact the person who was working on it and see about
collaborating to finish the work.

-- 
"Bureaucrat Conrad, you are technically correct -- the best kind of correct."

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When will updatedb be completed?

2007-05-10 Thread Sebastian Macias

Do any of you guys when the django-admin.py updatedb command will be
completed? updatedb is basically all django is missing for me and many
developers at the company I work for to abandon CakePHP and move to
django.

Thanks,

Sebastian


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