Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread golinux

On 2020-10-31 17:20, Antony Stone wrote:

On Saturday 31 October 2020 at 23:07:42, goli...@devuan.org wrote:

There is a reason the Devuan team takes the time to write Release 
Notes.

I only wish that more users would take the time to read them:


An admirable comment - I only ask - how are such notes brought to 
people's
attention when they're going through the installation or upgrade 
process?



Antony.


Preparation should not be an after-thought.

The Release Notes are included at the source of the isos: 
http://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/ and all the mirrors would have 
identical content.


In addition, the Release Notes as well as installation instructions are 
included on the isos using the Debian installer.  I know because I 
picked the short straw to prepare that documentation.


golinux
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Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 31 October 2020 at 23:07:42, goli...@devuan.org wrote:

> There is a reason the Devuan team takes the time to write Release Notes.
> I only wish that more users would take the time to read them:

An admirable comment - I only ask - how are such notes brought to people's 
attention when they're going through the installation or upgrade process?


Antony.

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temperature of patients in a hospital."

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Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread golinux
 On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:34:30 -0700 Michael K.  
wrote 


*establishing connetion to pulsaudio, please wait *

(a fresh installed Beowulf wth XFCE has no Sound. )

There was a hint once before on the list to edit "something" in a
Pulsaudio file. But I can't find this info anymore.

What do I have to do to get back in contact with the sound mixer?

Thanks in advance

Michael




There is a reason the Devuan team takes the time to write Release Notes. 
 I only wish that more users would take the time to read them:


https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/Release_notes.txt

golinux





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Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread David Kuehling via Dng
> "Marc" == Marc Shapiro via Dng  writes:
   
> It may have been a response to one of my posts that you are
> remembering.  Back on September 25 I posted that I had "(Almost) no
> sound under Beowulf" and viverna posted a reply suggesting the need
> for a .asound file.  In the end, I did not need this file.  Although
> pulseaudio was installed, it was, for whatever reason, not starting
> for all users.  I added a line to start pulseaudio in each user's
> .bashrc file and that fixed the problem on their next login.

I did a similar work-around fix when first faced with the same problem
on Devuan.  However, I think the proper fix, as pointed out by Ken, is
to edit

  /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/00-disable-autospawn.conf

and comment out the "autospawn=no" line.  This is the solution that I'm
currently using on all my Devuan Beowulf systems without encountering
any issues.  I wonder why Devuan isn't distributing a patched version of
pulseaudio that has this configured correctly by default?

David
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Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng


On 10/31/20 10:30 AM, kdibble wrote:




 On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:34:30 -0700 *Michael K. * 
wrote 


*establishing connetion to pulsaudio, please wait *

(a fresh installed Beowulf wth XFCE has no Sound. )

There was a hint once before on the list to edit "something" in a
Pulsaudio file. But I can't find this info anymore.

What do I have to do to get back in contact with the sound mixer?

Thanks in advance

Michael


I cannot remember either.
So
I checked my configuration and the only
file changed is in /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/

which has 00-disable-autospawn.conf

the contents of which are

 On linux systems, disable autospawn by default
# If you are not using systemd, comment out this line
# autospawn=n

I am sure someone with definitive knowledge will come along, refresh
my memory and help you.

Ken

It may have been a response to one of my posts that you are 
remembering.  Back on September 25 I posted that I had "(Almost) no 
sound under Beowulf" and viverna posted a reply suggesting the need for 
a .asound file.  In the end, I did not need this file. Although 
pulseaudio was installed, it was, for whatever reason, not starting for 
all users.  I added a line to start pulseaudio in each user's .bashrc 
file and that fixed the problem on their next login.  YMMV.


Marc

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Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

2020-10-31 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng


On 10/31/20 3:43 AM, spiralofhope wrote:

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:22:34 -0700
Marc Shapiro via Dng  wrote:


Sorry, spiralofhope.  I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the
list.

I'll re-send this to the list then.  :)



On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:15:42 -0700
Marc Shapiro  wrote:


I think they have already obfuscated things.

I used to use the Video Download Helper plugin for Firefox, but that
stopped working for me.

I know there were some issues with youtube-dl, and I switched to
youtube-dlc because it included some unapproved pull requests.

I checked, and I'm able to download your examine (sgN7fUGPgMM).  If you
want, I can provide it.

I can also supply a 64bit binary or the repository I kept.


Thanks for the prompt reply.  That video was just a test, to get the 
error messages to post.


I am now finding that Video Download Helper will sometimes complete a 
download and some of those actually work, but not all.


For now, I am going to wait and see how this all plays out.


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Re: [DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread kdibble
 On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:34:30 -0700 Michael K.  wrote 



*establishing connetion to pulsaudio, please wait *

(a fresh installed Beowulf wth XFCE has no Sound. )

There was a hint once before on the list to edit "something" in a
Pulsaudio file. But I can't find this info anymore.

What do I have to do to get back in contact with the sound mixer?

Thanks in advance

Michael




I cannot remember either.

So

I checked my configuration and the only

file changed is in /etc/pulse/client.conf.d/



which has 00-disable-autospawn.conf



the contents of which are



 On linux systems, disable autospawn by default

# If you are not using systemd, comment out this line

# autospawn=n



I am sure someone with definitive knowledge will come along, refresh

my memory and help you.



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Re: [DNG] XFCE in Beowulf confuses left and right

2020-10-31 Thread kdibble
 On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 08:14:27 -0700 Michael K.  wrote 


Heyho, 
 
I have setup a Desktop with Beowulf and XFCE. The install was done with 
only one Monitor (Acer 24" HDMI) 
 
I put on a other Monitor (Acer 20" VGA) and yes i get "Figure 3. 
Configure new displays dialog." (*) In this display dialog i see the 
first "confuses of left and right" The 20" stands *left* from 24" (for 
medical reasons i need it) I drag and drop the Icons to te right places, 
how my monitors are positioned. I set 24" as default. And XFCE use the 
20" as default?! 24" shows only the default XFCE Background. (***) 
 
"if i want to reach the monitor left with the mouse i have to move the 
mouse to the right." 
 
Although, the 24" is the *default* Monitor XFCE give me the Menu and 
other Desktop Items on the small one 20" ?? E.g. open Thunar  
 
I *disable* the Small on 20", and the Monitor Icon for the 20" goes 
automatically to the right side. See screenshot (**) 
 
I make this settings as a "normal user" non root privileges. (***) 
 
what can I do to make this program do what I want? 
 
Thank you in advance and have a nice weekend 
 
Michael 



 


I setup my multi monitor location and configuration in

Preferences->LXQt Settings->Monitor settings



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[DNG] No Sound in XFCE Beowulf - Pulsaudio

2020-10-31 Thread Michael K.
*establishing connetion to pulsaudio, please wait *

(a fresh installed Beowulf wth XFCE has no Sound. )

There was a hint once before on the list to edit "something" in a
Pulsaudio file. But I can't find this info anymore.

What do I have to do to get back in contact with the sound mixer?

Thanks in advance

Michael
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[DNG] XFCE in Beowulf confuses left and right

2020-10-31 Thread Michael K.
Heyho,

I have setup a Desktop with Beowulf and XFCE. The install was done with
only one Monitor (Acer 24" HDMI)

I put on a other Monitor (Acer 20" VGA) and yes i get "Figure 3.
Configure new displays dialog." (*) In this display dialog i see the
first "confuses of left and right" The 20" stands *left* from 24" (for
medical reasons i need it) I drag and drop the Icons to te right places,
how my monitors are positioned. I set 24" as default. And XFCE use the
20" as default?! 24" shows only the default XFCE Background. (***)

"if i want to reach the monitor left with the mouse i have to move the
mouse to the right."

Although, the 24" is the *default* Monitor XFCE give me the Menu and
other Desktop Items on the small one 20" ?? E.g. open Thunar 

I *disable* the Small on 20", and the Monitor Icon for the 20" goes
automatically to the right side. See screenshot (**)

I make this settings as a "normal user" non root privileges. (***)

what can I do to make this program do what I want?

Thank you in advance and have a nice weekend

Michael

(*) https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/4.12/display
(**) https://paste.pics/d4c5304aad0b59d810705756c06c5774
(***) https://paste.pics/22edd79281ed949a7d48419688d5c927


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Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

2020-10-31 Thread spiralofhope
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:22:34 -0700
Marc Shapiro via Dng  wrote:

> Sorry, spiralofhope.  I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the
> list.

I'll re-send this to the list then.  :)



On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:15:42 -0700
Marc Shapiro  wrote:

> I think they have already obfuscated things.
> 
> I used to use the Video Download Helper plugin for Firefox, but that 
> stopped working for me.  

I know there were some issues with youtube-dl, and I switched to
youtube-dlc because it included some unapproved pull requests.

I checked, and I'm able to download your examine (sgN7fUGPgMM).  If you
want, I can provide it.

I can also supply a 64bit binary or the repository I kept.

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Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-31 Thread Dimitris T. via Dng
Simon Walter wrote:
> On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote:
>>> That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my
>>> local resolver lately. It's pleasant.
>>
>>  From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I
>> clearly do not trust that technology.
> 
> What meetings? Is it possible to divulge some more info WRT what you
> discovered? I am curious.


curious here too, unbound has always been considered somewhat secure.
there's also an recent independent security audit (link from unbound
site), so this would be interesting to know, please share.. :)

using bind mainly as authoritative in servers, although it seems really
heavy and tbh don't like the fact that bind's almost a monopoly...
also heard nice things about knot - will probably give it a try sometime
soon...

anyway, using almost exclusively unbound in pcs, as local caching dns..
seems to me lighter/easier to configure than dnsmasq.
and iirc, most linux distros have moved to unbound as well..

2c.
d.





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