Re: [DNG] How borged is D-bus?
2016-03-04 12:55 GMT+01:00, Nuno Magalhães : > Meh, i don't buy their guarantees. Rephrasing: considering they're > focusing on sd-bus, is the borg collective maintaining D-bus? Or is it > still "free"? What are the init-inclinations of freedesktop.org? It seems to me, reading the main Borg Frontman, that libdbus will be mantained until someone is wishing to mantain it, then it will be deprecated in favour of GDBus from GIO, then if kdbus is going to make it in mainline, dbus project will be strongly encouraged to link against whatever the systemd lib for sd-bus will be. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How borged is D-bus?
On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:54 AM, Joel Roth wrote: > Being that > so much complex code is built on dbus, Pottering and co > guarantee that dbus will not be broken by updates in the > protocol. Meh, i don't buy their guarantees. Rephrasing: considering they're focusing on sd-bus, is the borg collective maintaining D-bus? Or is it still "free"? What are the init-inclinations of freedesktop.org? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How borged is D-bus?
Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 04/03/16 12:42, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Considering the systemd team has been focusing on sd-bus, how > > systemd-free is dbus? > > > Our package doesn't depend on systemd, libsystemd0 or libpam-systemd It does constitute fundamental protocol used and depended on by many parts of the systemd ecosystem, however doesn't involve the init system, so you're free of that. Being that so much complex code is built on dbus, Pottering and co guarantee that dbus will not be broken by updates in the protocol. There is some question (at least I am ignorant) whether how backward compatible sdbus will be with dbus. Also will you have a choice to not use kernel-mediated boundary crossing sdbus in future? So there is some borginess(tm) there. IIRC Linus commented that the only reason for sdbus is that dbus code is badly implemented. So caveat emptor, and as the japanese say, TADA YORI TAKAI MONO GA NAI (nothing is more expensive than [what appears to be given for] free.) People should think about that when signing up for Gmail! cheers, Joel (yes, I have a gmail account, another type of borginess) > -- > Daniel Reurich > Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. > 021 797 722 > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How borged is D-bus?
On 04/03/16 12:42, Nuno Magalhães wrote: > Greetings, > > Considering the systemd team has been focusing on sd-bus, how > systemd-free is dbus? > Our package doesn't depend on systemd, libsystemd0 or libpam-systemd -- Daniel Reurich Centurion Computer Technology (2005) Ltd. 021 797 722 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] How borged is D-bus?
Greetings, Considering the systemd team has been focusing on sd-bus, how systemd-free is dbus? Cheers, Nuno ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng