[libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Hello Team, I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. Under *Advanced find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text attributes and formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or *Font color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. For example, following these steps below, no options appear under the *Find* box to choose from: 1. On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), click the *Attributes* button. 2. Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected attributes appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text that has been changed from the default font color, select the *Font Color* attribute. I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, Is anyone else able to get this working? Thank you! Kind regards, Toni -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what you want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the replace field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click FORMAT and select the formatting you want for that text. For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you want replaced--making it rather useless. On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: > Hello Team, > > I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. Under > *Advanced > find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text attributes and > formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or *Font > color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. > For example, following these steps below, no options appear under the *Find* > box to choose from: > > >1. > >On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), click >the *Attributes* button. >2. > >Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the >Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected attributes >appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text that has >been changed from the default font color, select the *Font Color* >attribute. > > I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, Is > anyone else able to get this working? > > Thank you! > > Kind regards, > > Toni > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Hello Team! I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in updating the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > Attributes* option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we delete this section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the *Attributes* search that doesn't work. Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the instructions say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of the font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. [image: image.png] Thank you! Toni On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin wrote: > Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what you > want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the > formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the replace > field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click FORMAT > and select the formatting you want for that text. > > For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you want > replaced--making it rather useless. > > On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: > > Hello Team, > > > > I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. Under > *Advanced > > find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text attributes and > > formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or *Font > > color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. > > For example, following these steps below, no options appear under the > *Find* > > box to choose from: > > > > > >1. > > > >On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), click > >the *Attributes* button. > >2. > > > >Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the > >Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected attributes > >appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text that has > >been changed from the default font color, select the *Font Color* > >attribute. > > > > I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, Is > > anyone else able to get this working? > > > > Thank you! > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Toni > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Maybe you are seeing https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 Ilmari Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: Hello Team! I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in updating the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > Attributes* option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we delete this section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the *Attributes* search that doesn't work. Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the instructions say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of the font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. [image: image.png] Thank you! Toni On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin wrote: Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what you want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the replace field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click FORMAT and select the formatting you want for that text. For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you want replaced--making it rather useless. On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: Hello Team, I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. Under *Advanced find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text attributes and formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or *Font color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. For example, following these steps below, no options appear under the *Find* box to choose from: 1. On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), click the *Attributes* button. 2. Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected attributes appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text that has been changed from the default font color, select the *Font Color* attribute. I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, Is anyone else able to get this working? Thank you! Kind regards, Toni -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > Maybe you are seeing > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 > > Ilmari > > Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: > > Hello Team! > > > > I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in updating > > the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > > Attributes* > > option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we delete > this > > section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the > *Attributes* > > search that doesn't work. > > > > Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the instructions > > say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of the > > font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. > > > > [image: image.png] > > > > Thank you! > > > > Toni > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin wrote: > > > >> Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what you > >> want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the > >> formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the replace > >> field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click FORMAT > >> and select the formatting you want for that text. > >> > >> For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you want > >> replaced--making it rather useless. > >> > >> On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: > >>> Hello Team, > >>> > >>> I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. Under > >> *Advanced > >>> find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text attributes and > >>> formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or > *Font > >>> color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. > >>> For example, following these steps below, no options appear under the > >> *Find* > >>> box to choose from: > >>> > >>> > >>> 1. > >>> > >>> On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), > click > >>> the *Attributes* button. > >>> 2. > >>> > >>> Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the > >>> Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected > attributes > >>> appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text that > has > >>> been changed from the default font color, select the *Font Color* > >>> attribute. > >>> > >>> I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, Is > >>> anyone else able to get this working? > >>> > >>> Thank you! > >>> > >>> Kind regards, > >>> > >>> Toni > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: > documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > >> Problems? > >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >> Posting guidelines + more: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >> List archive: > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > >> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Hi Toni, I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, when looked into online help I found related content in the below link which might answer your query: https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all instances of text that do not use the default font are found". So I guess the "Font" function works only to search for the font which doesn't default in the document. Same with the font color option as well when font color is changed in the document and the "Find next" option is clicked with the "Font color" attribute selected, it works. I tried both the options and it worked for me as per whats mentioned in the link. Hope my explanation makes sense. Kind regards Shravani On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Toni B wrote: > Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < > ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > > > Maybe you are seeing > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 > > > > Ilmari > > > > Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: > > > Hello Team! > > > > > > I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in > updating > > > the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > > > Attributes* > > > option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we delete > > this > > > section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the > > *Attributes* > > > search that doesn't work. > > > > > > Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the > instructions > > > say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of > the > > > font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. > > > > > > [image: image.png] > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > Toni > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin wrote: > > > > > >> Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what > you > > >> want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the > > >> formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the > replace > > >> field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click FORMAT > > >> and select the formatting you want for that text. > > >> > > >> For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you > want > > >> replaced--making it rather useless. > > >> > > >> On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: > > >>> Hello Team, > > >>> > > >>> I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. Under > > >> *Advanced > > >>> find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text attributes > and > > >>> formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or > > *Font > > >>> color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. > > >>> For example, following these steps below, no options appear under the > > >> *Find* > > >>> box to choose from: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 1. > > >>> > > >>> On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), > > click > > >>> the *Attributes* button. > > >>> 2. > > >>> > > >>> Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the > > >>> Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected > > attributes > > >>> appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text > that > > has > > >>> been changed from the default font color, select the *Font Color* > > >>> attribute. > > >>> > > >>> I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, Is > > >>> anyone else able to get this working? > > >>> > > >>> Thank you! > > >>> > > >>> Kind regards, > > >>> > > >>> Toni > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: > > documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > >> Problems? > > >> > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > >> Posting guidelines + more: > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > >> List archive: > > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > > >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > >> > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe e-mail to: > documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > > Problems? > > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > > Posting guidelines + more: > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To u
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Thank you all for the suggestions and research. Shravani - I do see the behavior you describe and afterward, the text makes better sense. As an "end user" I think this behavior is very confusing. I would expect the Find/Replace to work as described in Find and Replace Paragraph Styles. I will have to let this sink in and see if I can find a better way to describe it for those first using it. The expectation of choices popping up in the Find and the Replace boxes really threw me off and I think it may throw others off who are first using the software. I welcome any suggestions or opinions. Thanks again! Toni On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM S Shravz wrote: > Hi Toni, > > I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, when > looked into online help I found related content in the below link which > might answer your query: > > https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN > > The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all > instances of text that do not use the default font are found". So I guess > the "Font" function works only to search for the font which doesn't default > in the document. Same with the font color option as well when font color is > changed in the document and the "Find next" option is clicked with the > "Font color" attribute selected, it works. I tried both the options and it > worked for me as per whats mentioned in the link. > > Hope my explanation makes sense. > > Kind regards > Shravani > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Toni B wrote: > >> Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < >> ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: >> >> > Maybe you are seeing >> > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 >> > >> > Ilmari >> > >> > Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: >> > > Hello Team! >> > > >> > > I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in >> updating >> > > the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > >> > Attributes* >> > > option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we delete >> > this >> > > section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the >> > *Attributes* >> > > search that doesn't work. >> > > >> > > Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the >> instructions >> > > say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of >> the >> > > font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. >> > > >> > > [image: image.png] >> > > >> > > Thank you! >> > > >> > > Toni >> > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin >> wrote: >> > > >> > >> Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what >> you >> > >> want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the >> > >> formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the >> replace >> > >> field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click >> FORMAT >> > >> and select the formatting you want for that text. >> > >> >> > >> For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you >> want >> > >> replaced--making it rather useless. >> > >> >> > >> On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: >> > >>> Hello Team, >> > >>> >> > >>> I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. >> Under >> > >> *Advanced >> > >>> find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text attributes >> and >> > >>> formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or >> > *Font >> > >>> color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. >> > >>> For example, following these steps below, no options appear under >> the >> > >> *Find* >> > >>> box to choose from: >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 1. >> > >>> >> > >>> On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), >> > click >> > >>> the *Attributes* button. >> > >>> 2. >> > >>> >> > >>> Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the >> > >>> Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected >> > attributes >> > >>> appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text >> that >> > has >> > >>> been changed from the default font color, select the *Font >> Color* >> > >>> attribute. >> > >>> >> > >>> I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, >> Is >> > >>> anyone else able to get this working? >> > >>> >> > >>> Thank you! >> > >>> >> > >>> Kind regards, >> > >>> >> > >>> Toni >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: >> > documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> > >> Problems? >> > >> >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> > >> Posting guidelines + more: >> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> > >> List archive: >> > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> > >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoun
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Glad if my inputs did sort this out in some way. I haven't referred to this topic in the guide. Yes! few aspects are actually confusing for the end user to understand, even I have been changing it to be even more user friendly. Have a nice day! Kind regards Shravani On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:40 AM Toni B wrote: > Thank you all for the suggestions and research. > Shravani - I do see the behavior you describe and afterward, the text makes > better sense. > As an "end user" I think this behavior is very confusing. I would expect > the Find/Replace to work as described in Find and Replace Paragraph > Styles. I will have to let this sink in and see if I can find a better way > to describe it for those first using it. The expectation of choices > popping up in the Find and the Replace boxes really threw me off and I > think it may throw others off who are first using the software. I welcome > any suggestions or opinions. > Thanks again! > Toni > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM S Shravz wrote: > > > Hi Toni, > > > > I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, when > > looked into online help I found related content in the below link which > > might answer your query: > > > > > https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN > > > > The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all > > instances of text that do not use the default font are found". So I guess > > the "Font" function works only to search for the font which doesn't > default > > in the document. Same with the font color option as well when font color > is > > changed in the document and the "Find next" option is clicked with the > > "Font color" attribute selected, it works. I tried both the options and > it > > worked for me as per whats mentioned in the link. > > > > Hope my explanation makes sense. > > > > Kind regards > > Shravani > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Toni B wrote: > > > >> Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < > >> ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > >> > >> > Maybe you are seeing > >> > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 > >> > > >> > Ilmari > >> > > >> > Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: > >> > > Hello Team! > >> > > > >> > > I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in > >> updating > >> > > the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > > >> > Attributes* > >> > > option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we > delete > >> > this > >> > > section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the > >> > *Attributes* > >> > > search that doesn't work. > >> > > > >> > > Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the > >> instructions > >> > > say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of > >> the > >> > > font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. > >> > > > >> > > [image: image.png] > >> > > > >> > > Thank you! > >> > > > >> > > Toni > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what > >> you > >> > >> want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the > >> > >> formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the > >> replace > >> > >> field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click > >> FORMAT > >> > >> and select the formatting you want for that text. > >> > >> > >> > >> For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you > >> want > >> > >> replaced--making it rather useless. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Team, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. > >> Under > >> > >> *Advanced > >> > >>> find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text > attributes > >> and > >> > >>> formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font > *or > >> > *Font > >> > >>> color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. > >> > >>> For example, following these steps below, no options appear under > >> the > >> > >> *Find* > >> > >>> box to choose from: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> 1. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* > displayed), > >> > click > >> > >>> the *Attributes* button. > >> > >>> 2. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in > the > >> > >>> Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected > >> > attributes > >> > >>> appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text > >> that > >> > has > >> > >>> been changed from the default font color, select the *Font > >> Color* > >> > >>> attribute. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Four comments... 1/ To my mind there's a missing piece of information: the definition of (or how to determine) the default font. Is it the Font used by the Default paragraph style (and if so, is it the Family, the Asian Text Font, or the CTL Font)? Or is it something else, like the Default character style (and if so, is it the Family, the Asian Text Font, or the CTL Font)? Or something else? 2/ The information callout says: "If you want to find text with any font by name, click the Format button in the Find & Replace dialog of LibreOffice Writer." Since people may read just the callout, should it perhaps instead say: "If you want to find text with any font by name (that is not the default font), click the Format button in the Find & Replace dialog of LibreOffice Writer." 3/ Also, reading the text reminds me of why I originally joined the team - to try to write up what I've been learning about what is meant by direct formatting. I've had so little spare time I still haven't made any contribution in that area. So I wonder if, in the opening paragraph that opens by saying: "You can search for text with attributes that are applied either by direct formatting or by styles." - whether the mention of "direct formatting" could be hyperlinked to any documentation that explains what's meant by that. Or is that an area where I could still perhaps make a contribution? 4/ One final small suggestion: in the "To search for all font changes" section, might it be a good idea to add a sentence like: "To search for a specific font (e.g. Times Roman), or a particular font style (e.g. Italic), select "Format..." instead of "Attributes..." in the Find & Replace panel", followed by the "Font" tab in the provided "Search for formatting" panel. luke On 23/4/20 2:37 am, S Shravz wrote: Glad if my inputs did sort this out in some way. I haven't referred to this topic in the guide. Yes! few aspects are actually confusing for the end user to understand, even I have been changing it to be even more user friendly. Have a nice day! Kind regards Shravani On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:40 AM Toni B wrote: Thank you all for the suggestions and research. Shravani - I do see the behavior you describe and afterward, the text makes better sense. As an "end user" I think this behavior is very confusing. I would expect the Find/Replace to work as described in Find and Replace Paragraph Styles. I will have to let this sink in and see if I can find a better way to describe it for those first using it. The expectation of choices popping up in the Find and the Replace boxes really threw me off and I think it may throw others off who are first using the software. I welcome any suggestions or opinions. Thanks again! Toni On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM S Shravz wrote: Hi Toni, I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, when looked into online help I found related content in the below link which might answer your query: https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all instances of text that do not use the default font are found". So I guess the "Font" function works only to search for the font which doesn't default in the document. Same with the font color option as well when font color is changed in the document and the "Find next" option is clicked with the "Font color" attribute selected, it works. I tried both the options and it worked for me as per whats mentioned in the link. Hope my explanation makes sense. Kind regards Shravani On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Toni B wrote: Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: Maybe you are seeing https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 Ilmari Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: Hello Team! I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in updating the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > Attributes* option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we delete this section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the *Attributes* search that doesn't work. Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the instructions say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of the font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. [image: image.png] Thank you! Toni On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin wrote: Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what you want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the replace field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click FORMAT and select the formatting you want for that text. For so
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Thank you for the helpful comments Luke. I will plan to put your suggestion 4 in the documentation. Can anyone explain the difference between an attribute and a format in "beginner" or "layperson" language? I don't think I have a good understanding. I couldn't find it in the documentation, but perhaps I overlooked it. Have an awesome day! Toni On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 8:46 PM Luke (gmail) wrote: > Four comments... > > 1/ > To my mind there's a missing piece of information: the definition of (or > how to determine) the default font. > > Is it the Font used by the Default paragraph style (and if so, is it the > Family, the Asian Text Font, or the CTL Font)? > > Or is it something else, like the Default character style (and if so, is > it the Family, the Asian Text Font, or the CTL Font)? > > Or something else? > > 2/ > The information callout says: > "If you want to find text with any font by name, click the Format button > in the Find & Replace dialog of LibreOffice Writer." > > Since people may read just the callout, should it perhaps instead say: > "If you want to find text with any font by name (that is not the default > font), click the Format button in the Find & Replace dialog of > LibreOffice Writer." > > 3/ > Also, reading the text reminds me of why I originally joined the team - > to try to write up what I've been learning about what is meant by direct > formatting. > > I've had so little spare time I still haven't made any contribution in > that area. So I wonder if, in the opening paragraph that opens by saying: > "You can search for text with attributes that are applied either by > direct formatting or by styles." > - whether the mention of "direct formatting" could be hyperlinked to any > documentation that explains what's meant by that. Or is that an area > where I could still perhaps make a contribution? > > 4/ > One final small suggestion: in the "To search for all font changes" > section, might it be a good idea to add a sentence like: > "To search for a specific font (e.g. Times Roman), or a particular font > style (e.g. Italic), select "Format..." instead of "Attributes..." in > the Find & Replace panel", followed by the "Font" tab in the provided > "Search for formatting" panel. > > luke > > On 23/4/20 2:37 am, S Shravz wrote: > > Glad if my inputs did sort this out in some way. > > I haven't referred to this topic in the guide. > > Yes! few aspects are actually confusing for the end user to understand, > > even I have been changing it to be even more user friendly. > > > > Have a nice day! > > > > Kind regards > > Shravani > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:40 AM Toni B wrote: > > > >> Thank you all for the suggestions and research. > >> Shravani - I do see the behavior you describe and afterward, the text > makes > >> better sense. > >> As an "end user" I think this behavior is very confusing. I would > expect > >> the Find/Replace to work as described in Find and Replace Paragraph > >> Styles. I will have to let this sink in and see if I can find a better > way > >> to describe it for those first using it. The expectation of choices > >> popping up in the Find and the Replace boxes really threw me off and I > >> think it may throw others off who are first using the software. I > welcome > >> any suggestions or opinions. > >> Thanks again! > >> Toni > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM S Shravz wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Toni, > >>> > >>> I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, when > >>> looked into online help I found related content in the below link which > >>> might answer your query: > >>> > >>> > >> > https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN > >>> > >>> The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all > >>> instances of text that do not use the default font are found". So I > guess > >>> the "Font" function works only to search for the font which doesn't > >> default > >>> in the document. Same with the font color option as well when font > color > >> is > >>> changed in the document and the "Find next" option is clicked with the > >>> "Font color" attribute selected, it works. I tried both the options and > >> it > >>> worked for me as per whats mentioned in the link. > >>> > >>> Hope my explanation makes sense. > >>> > >>> Kind regards > >>> Shravani > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Toni B wrote: > >>> > Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < > ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > > > Maybe you are seeing > > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 > > > > Ilmari > > > > Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: > >> Hello Team! > >> > >> I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in > updating > >> the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find &
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Toni, Based on my current understanding, the current names of those buttons don't really make any sense. Note how the "No Format" button clears both. I don't think the current help text is any good either. I would describe the "formats" you can search for as specific instances or valuations of the "attributes". attribute -> format a/b/c color -> auto, red, blue, ... font -> Liberation Sans, Liberation Serif... etc. But this has nothing to do with any normal meaning of the words "format" or "attribute". So I wouldn't worry too much about the words themselves, and just describe what the features do. Examples: - If you want to search for *any* manually applied font, click the "Attributes" button and check the box next to "Font", then click "OK". - If you want to search for *a particular* manually applied font, such as "Liberation Serif", click the "Format" button, then... --Kenneth On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 12:09 PM Toni B wrote: > Thank you for the helpful comments Luke. I will plan to put your > suggestion 4 in the documentation. > Can anyone explain the difference between an attribute and a format in > "beginner" or "layperson" language? I don't think I have a good > understanding. I couldn't find it in the documentation, but perhaps I > overlooked it. > Have an awesome day! > Toni > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 8:46 PM Luke (gmail) > wrote: > > > Four comments... > > > > 1/ > > To my mind there's a missing piece of information: the definition of (or > > how to determine) the default font. > > > > Is it the Font used by the Default paragraph style (and if so, is it the > > Family, the Asian Text Font, or the CTL Font)? > > > > Or is it something else, like the Default character style (and if so, is > > it the Family, the Asian Text Font, or the CTL Font)? > > > > Or something else? > > > > 2/ > > The information callout says: > > "If you want to find text with any font by name, click the Format button > > in the Find & Replace dialog of LibreOffice Writer." > > > > Since people may read just the callout, should it perhaps instead say: > > "If you want to find text with any font by name (that is not the default > > font), click the Format button in the Find & Replace dialog of > > LibreOffice Writer." > > > > 3/ > > Also, reading the text reminds me of why I originally joined the team - > > to try to write up what I've been learning about what is meant by direct > > formatting. > > > > I've had so little spare time I still haven't made any contribution in > > that area. So I wonder if, in the opening paragraph that opens by > saying: > > "You can search for text with attributes that are applied either by > > direct formatting or by styles." > > - whether the mention of "direct formatting" could be hyperlinked to any > > documentation that explains what's meant by that. Or is that an area > > where I could still perhaps make a contribution? > > > > 4/ > > One final small suggestion: in the "To search for all font changes" > > section, might it be a good idea to add a sentence like: > > "To search for a specific font (e.g. Times Roman), or a particular font > > style (e.g. Italic), select "Format..." instead of "Attributes..." in > > the Find & Replace panel", followed by the "Font" tab in the provided > > "Search for formatting" panel. > > > > luke > > > > On 23/4/20 2:37 am, S Shravz wrote: > > > Glad if my inputs did sort this out in some way. > > > I haven't referred to this topic in the guide. > > > Yes! few aspects are actually confusing for the end user to > understand, > > > even I have been changing it to be even more user friendly. > > > > > > Have a nice day! > > > > > > Kind regards > > > Shravani > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:40 AM Toni B wrote: > > > > > >> Thank you all for the suggestions and research. > > >> Shravani - I do see the behavior you describe and afterward, the text > > makes > > >> better sense. > > >> As an "end user" I think this behavior is very confusing. I would > > expect > > >> the Find/Replace to work as described in Find and Replace Paragraph > > >> Styles. I will have to let this sink in and see if I can find a > better > > way > > >> to describe it for those first using it. The expectation of choices > > >> popping up in the Find and the Replace boxes really threw me off and I > > >> think it may throw others off who are first using the software. I > > welcome > > >> any suggestions or opinions. > > >> Thanks again! > > >> Toni > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM S Shravz wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hi Toni, > > >>> > > >>> I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, > when > > >>> looked into online help I found related content in the below link > which > > >>> might answer your query: > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?&DbPAR=WRITER&System=WIN > > >>> > > >>> The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all >
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
On 4/23/20 5:08 PM, Toni B wrote: >Can anyone explain the difference between an attribute and a format in >"beginner" or "layperson" language? Format is presentation markup. Attribute is the specific quality associated with the presentation markup. Presentation markup is the stuff to use to make your document look good, bad, ugly, etc. Setting _Comic Sans_ as the font, is setting an attribute (the font) for the presentation markup. Setting _Libre Office Green 0_as the foreground colour, is setting an attribute (ink colour) of the presentation markup. Note: Attribute can also refer to syntactical markup. However, that would be beyond the scope of the documentation you are working on. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
On 4/23/20 5:51 PM, Kenneth Hanson wrote: >the current names of those buttons don't really make any sense. Note how the >"No Format" button clears both. That is the normal and expected behaviour. No format should leave the text with the default font, size, and colour. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Find and Replace is ancient programming and should be working at this stage. It might be something else that is making this an issue. C/C++ ancient programming code for Find and Replace. It looks like it might be something with the button or the drop down menu/type ahead field and not the basic Find and Replace. example: drop down menu or type ahead field is missing the font selection 1.404.584.8180 office www.linkedin.com/in/vandyjuggler On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 3:55 PM toki wrote: > On 4/23/20 5:51 PM, Kenneth Hanson wrote: > > >the current names of those buttons don't really make any sense. Note how > the "No Format" button clears both. > > That is the normal and expected behaviour. > No format should leave the text with the default font, size, and colour. > > jonathon > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy