Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread Patrick Wigmore
On Fri, 08 Mar 2019 16:23:55 +, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
> I've not used it, and don't fully understand its operation, but I
> wonder if RADIUS is well suited to the `authentication and
> authorisation' of clients to the home network.

I have got the impression from these messages that Tim might be quite 
enjoying the cat and mouse game, and so going straight for the 
'nuclear option' of RADIUS might spoil the fun! Having said that, 
perhaps I am underestimating the adversary.

One 'cheaper' option for authentication would be to just have more 
than one WiFi SSID.

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Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread tda

Hi Ralph

On 08/03/2019 16:23, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Tim,


There's a fair number of devices (20-30) on the network at any time.


I've not used it, and don't fully understand its operation, but I wonder
if RADIUS is well suited to the `authentication and authorisation'
of clients to the home network.  https://freeradius.org/ is popular and
packaged for Debian.  This would be at a higher level than MAC or IP
address and allow password or certificates to be used for authentication.

With RADIUS's third `A', accounting, CC#2 could be given the option of
out of hours access for a fee.  :-)



Haha - thanks, will do some reading.

Cheers

Tim
 



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Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread tda

Hi Keith

On 08/03/2019 16:46, Keith Edmunds wrote:

You might want to install arpalert, too.

http://www.arpalert.org/arpalert.html




Thanks, have installed and set this up.

Cheers

Tim
 



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Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread Keith Edmunds
You might want to install arpalert, too.

http://www.arpalert.org/arpalert.html


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Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Tim,

> There's a fair number of devices (20-30) on the network at any time.

I've not used it, and don't fully understand its operation, but I wonder
if RADIUS is well suited to the `authentication and authorisation'
of clients to the home network.  https://freeradius.org/ is popular and
packaged for Debian.  This would be at a higher level than MAC or IP
address and allow password or certificates to be used for authentication.

With RADIUS's third `A', accounting, CC#2 could be given the option of
out of hours access for a fee.  :-)

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Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread tda

Hi Stephen

On 08/03/2019 11:17, Stephen Wolff wrote:

Hiya


then for around 30 minutes in the morning, returning exactly as Cost
Centre #2 left for school.


Blimey. Hadn’t considered that CCs could upset networking routing in the house. 
I think I’d better try this SmokePing thing



Try Ralph's script - it tracked down the culprit for me pretty quickly!

Cheers

Tim




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Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread tda

Hi Ralph

On 08/03/2019 11:12, Ralph Corderoy wrote:

Hi Tim,


then for around 30 minutes in the morning, returning exactly as Cost
Centre #2 left for school.


I was going to mention at the club if it could be your policy rules
interfering.  It didn't occur to me it could be them being routed
around.  :-)


A few months ago, everything starts being a bit flaky. Sometimes I
can't get a DHCP response from Golux when trying to connect my own
laptop to one Wifi access point, but can do from one of the others. I
have my suspicions, especially as rebooting the router clears the
problem. Suspicions reinforced as flushing the router ARP table also
clears the problem. But can't see anything untoward in the ARP table
contents.


Could #CC2 be switching to your laptop's MAC address?


I think the evidence is that he's switching to Golux's IP address, as I lose 
connectivity with Golux from work (over VPN) when he's doing his thing. My 
laptop's off/asleep so it's really out of the equation. What I can't explain 
though is that I can't contact the router either from work during those times, 
and from the logs the router WAN actually goes down. I did suspect at one point 
he may be plugging another router into a phone extension socket, but have ruled 
that out. Could be down to the router being configured to use Golux as its DNS 
server.




7. So, last night, a quick fix of blacklisting CC#2's phone MAC for
Wifi access in all the access points, although longer term will change
this to a whitelist and IP filtering.


How about leaving the mouse to continue his excursions, but see if you
can monitor traffic levels over time by MAC or IP address on the
Draytek.  Or if the Draytek doesn't offer that, on Golux, if all traffic
must pass through it to reach the Draytek.  That might give a clue as to
what's being spoofed?



Yes, I had that in mind. If it's just the IP address it should be fairly quick 
to nail. If it's MAC and IP address, could take a bit of figuring and may be 
easier to bring out the thumbscrews :) There's a fair number of devices (20-30) 
on the network at any time.

Cheers

Tim

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Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread Stephen Wolff
Hiya

>> then for around 30 minutes in the morning, returning exactly as Cost
>> Centre #2 left for school.

Blimey. Hadn’t considered that CCs could upset networking routing in the house. 
I think I’d better try this SmokePing thing


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Re: [Dorset] Monitoring Internet Connectivity.

2019-03-08 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Tim,

> then for around 30 minutes in the morning, returning exactly as Cost
> Centre #2 left for school.

I was going to mention at the club if it could be your policy rules
interfering.  It didn't occur to me it could be them being routed
around.  :-)

> A few months ago, everything starts being a bit flaky. Sometimes I
> can't get a DHCP response from Golux when trying to connect my own
> laptop to one Wifi access point, but can do from one of the others. I
> have my suspicions, especially as rebooting the router clears the
> problem. Suspicions reinforced as flushing the router ARP table also
> clears the problem. But can't see anything untoward in the ARP table
> contents.

Could #CC2 be switching to your laptop's MAC address?

> 7. So, last night, a quick fix of blacklisting CC#2's phone MAC for
> Wifi access in all the access points, although longer term will change
> this to a whitelist and IP filtering.

How about leaving the mouse to continue his excursions, but see if you
can monitor traffic levels over time by MAC or IP address on the
Draytek.  Or if the Draytek doesn't offer that, on Golux, if all traffic
must pass through it to reach the Draytek.  That might give a clue as to
what's being spoofed?

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