Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Client for a Windows User ?

2022-09-13 Thread Wojciech Puchar

alpine can work with IMAP accounts.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2022, Sam Kuper wrote:


On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 04:10:22PM +, White, Daniel E. wrote:

On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 12:07 Narcis Garcia wrote:

El 13/9/22 a les 18:01, White, Daniel E. ha escrit:

Specifically, Windows 2016 server

I suggested Thunderbird.
Is there anything else ?

Is this current ?
https://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows_email_clients


Not helpful.


Er... *yes* helpful.



Which ones, if any, behave with Dovecot ?


Any standards-compliant MUA should work fine with Dovecot.

If you don't like Wikipedia's list, maybe you'll prefer this list:
https://alternativeto.net/software/mozilla-thunderbird/?platform=windows



I notice that Thunderbird is not listed.


Sigh.  It's not an *exhaustive* list.



Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Client for a Windows User ?

2022-09-13 Thread Sam Kuper
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 04:10:22PM +, White, Daniel E. wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 12:07 Narcis Garcia wrote:
>> El 13/9/22 a les 18:01, White, Daniel E. ha escrit:
>>> Specifically, Windows 2016 server
>>> 
>>> I suggested Thunderbird.
>>> Is there anything else ?
>>> 
>>> Is this current ?
>>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows_email_clients
> 
> Not helpful.

Er... *yes* helpful.


> Which ones, if any, behave with Dovecot ?

Any standards-compliant MUA should work fine with Dovecot.

If you don't like Wikipedia's list, maybe you'll prefer this list:
https://alternativeto.net/software/mozilla-thunderbird/?platform=windows


> I notice that Thunderbird is not listed.

Sigh.  It's not an *exhaustive* list.


Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Client for a Windows User ?

2022-09-13 Thread Dave McGuire



  "Windows" and "behave" in the same sentence is pretty funny to begin 
with.


  Millions of people use Thunderbird with Dovecot with no issues, 
myself included, at this very moment.


  (are you the same Dan White who used to work for me, by the way?)

  -Dave

On 9/13/22 12:10, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] wrote:

Not helpful.
Which ones, if any, behave with Dovecot ?
I notice that Thunderbird is not listed.

From: dovecot  on behalf of Narcis Garcia 

Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 12:07
To: Dovecot SPM 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Client for a Windows User ?

https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows_email_clientsdata=05|01|daniel.e.wh...@nasa.gov|b3ca2f99a64e42c46b5308da95a219e6|7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b|0|0|637986820715805399|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0=|3000|||sdata=ImhiXM1VB6jZv1juiyg0lFeCvD9Izft27B74qyfVFZ8=reserved=0


Narcis Garcia

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I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator
should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
El 13/9/22 a les 18:01, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] ha escrit:
Specifically, Windows 2016 server

I suggested Thunderbird.
Is there anything else ?

Is this current ?
https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://wiki.dovecot.org/Clientsdata=05|01|daniel.e.wh...@nasa.gov|b3ca2f99a64e42c46b5308da95a219e6|7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b|0|0|637986820715805399|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0=|3000|||sdata=pKJenoDD3uT9v9e1izVN1DFdHNZqfpGkNYiM3EO5OmM=reserved=0






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Re: Client for a Windows User ?

2022-09-13 Thread Christopher Wensink

There are lot of choices:
Evolution
Mozilla Thunderbird
Mozilla Seamonkey
eM Client
Gmail (third party web hosted)
Mailbird
Mailspring
Shift
Pegasus

Are you looking to simply use the client on the server or are you 
hosting dovecot and your looking for a compatible client to connect to 
Dovecot?



On 9/13/2022 11:01 AM, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] wrote:

Specifically, Windows 2016 server

I suggested Thunderbird.
Is there anything else ?

Is this current ?
https://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients




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Office:  715-831-1682
Mobile:  715-563-3112
Fax:  715-831-6075
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Client for a Windows User ?

2022-09-13 Thread White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS]
Not helpful.
Which ones, if any, behave with Dovecot ?
I notice that Thunderbird is not listed.

From: dovecot  on behalf of Narcis Garcia 

Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 12:07
To: Dovecot SPM 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Client for a Windows User ?

https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows_email_clientsdata=05|01|daniel.e.wh...@nasa.gov|b3ca2f99a64e42c46b5308da95a219e6|7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b|0|0|637986820715805399|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0=|3000|||sdata=ImhiXM1VB6jZv1juiyg0lFeCvD9Izft27B74qyfVFZ8=reserved=0


Narcis Garcia

__
I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses aren't 
masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator 
should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
El 13/9/22 a les 18:01, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] ha escrit:
Specifically, Windows 2016 server

I suggested Thunderbird.
Is there anything else ?

Is this current ?
https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https://wiki.dovecot.org/Clientsdata=05|01|daniel.e.wh...@nasa.gov|b3ca2f99a64e42c46b5308da95a219e6|7005d45845be48ae8140d43da96dd17b|0|0|637986820715805399|Unknown|TWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0=|3000|||sdata=pKJenoDD3uT9v9e1izVN1DFdHNZqfpGkNYiM3EO5OmM=reserved=0





Re: Client for a Windows User ?

2022-09-13 Thread Narcis Garcia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Windows_email_clients


Narcis Garcia

__
I'm using this dedicated address because personal addresses aren't 
masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator 
should fix this against automated addresses collectors.

El 13/9/22 a les 18:01, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS] ha escrit:

Specifically, Windows 2016 server

I suggested Thunderbird.
Is there anything else ?

Is this current ?
https://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients



Client for a Windows User ?

2022-09-13 Thread White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[AEGIS]
Specifically, Windows 2016 server

I suggested Thunderbird.
Is there anything else ?

Is this current ?
https://wiki.dovecot.org/Clients



Re: Overquota flag and auth caching

2022-09-13 Thread list

On 09-13-2022 5:17 am, Christian Rößner wrote:

The result is that mails are still accepted, even a user went over quota 
resulting in bounces.
What is the correct way to use the over quota flag and which solutions can be 
taken to invalidate the user?
Is it possible to do this in a Lua user  backend? Any other method?



It is unclear in your message if you are aware of how you can use have your MTA 
check quota during delivery, and reject before accepting, to prevent 
back-scatter. For example if you are using Postfix you can use the policy 
service to do this in main.cf:

smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
...
check_policy_service unix:private/quota-status

And here are the docs on setting up quota for postfix on the dovecot side:

https://doc.dovecot.org/configuration_manual/quota_plugin/#quota-service


Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-09-13 Thread Benny Pedersen

hi@zakaria.website skrev den 2022-09-13 14:03:


least to must pass Signature Verification. Have anyone managed to
configure EXIM to verify more than one DKIM Signature header?


postfix smtpd_milter_maps with a list of ips that is known maillists ips 
is best for software that are brokken, use DISABLE as results pr ip that 
is maillist ips, that will disabled opendmarc and other milters when 
client ip is a maillist, postfix be happy until trusted domain have 
updated and stable milters


use rspamd if possible, with is imho the only stable milters with solve 
it all, i hate to write that but it might be right for time being, while 
spamassassin v4 is on the way


Overquota flag and auth caching

2022-09-13 Thread Christian Rößner
Hello,

I like the over quota flag mechanism in Dovecot. I found out that I get in 
trouble if a user gets over quota and I have turned on auth caching, because 
the cache does not automatically invalidate a user while toggling the flag. The 
cache still serves the old state.

The result is that mails are still accepted, even a user went over quota 
resulting in bounces.

Workaround is to flush a user from inside the toggle script, which solves the 
bounce problem, but it prevents the user from getting under quota before the 
user is flushed from the cache again.

What is the correct way to use the over quota flag and which solutions can be 
taken to invalidate the user? Is it possible to do this in a Lua user  backend? 
Any other method?

Thanks in advance

Christian Rößner
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