Re: Localhost imap server fails after upgrade from 2.2.33.2-1 to 1:2.3.2.1
Hello Stephan,
I'm interested to see this get fixed (and ideally one day for it to be
really easy for people to set up Alpine so that it competes fairly with
heavier GUIs!), but I do not know that I am qualified to help (beyond
light testing). Is there someone from Alpine on this thread? The second
(askubuntu.com) link you give is my own question (and answer, based on Aki
Tuomi's earlier responses).
Thanks and best wishes,
Chris
On Sun, 6 Jan 2019, Stephan Bosch wrote:
>
> Op 31/12/2018 om 16:53 schreef Chris Barrington-Leigh:
> > I then followed the instructions in the Warning lines above and now I get:
> >
> > dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
> > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4
> > # Hostname: cpbl-t450s
> > mail_location =
> > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX
> > service stats {
> > unix_listener stats-writer {
> > mode = 0666
> > }
> > }
> > ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it
> > verbose_proctitle = yes
> >
> >
> > However, this does not help my primary symptom:
> >
> >
> > $ /usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > imap(meuser,)Error: net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) failed:
> > Permission denied
> > * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE SORT
> > SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT MULTIAPPEND
> > URL-PARTIAL CATENATE UNSELECT CHILDREN NAMESPACE UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED
> > I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH
> > LIST-STATUS BINARY MOVE SNIPPET=FUZZY LITERAL+ NOTIFY] Logged in as meuser
> >
>
> I notice that you use an explicit configuration file for your imap invocation.
> Which likely means that this is something different from the config used the
> main dovecot service running on your system. That service block needs to be in
> the configuration of the dovecot instance running the stats service (which is
> likely just the main /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf). Given the location of your
> own config file, I'm assuming you cannot manage the main dovecot instance?
>
> BTW, there is a related thread with a different solution to this issue:
>
> https://www.dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2019-January/114151.html
>
> We're still working on getting that bug fixed, so that will not help you
> immediately, unless you can patch dovecot.
>
> BTW, I find it a bit weird that Alpine would fail on this. It is not a fatal
> error, so the imap service will just work. The error is sent to /dev/stderr,
> so I'd normally expect a service like Alpine to be able to ignore output sent
> there.
>
> The question below is about the same issue and their config suggests that
> stderr is sent to a log file:
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1104056/how-to-use-local-dovecot-imap-with-alpine-18-10-changes
>
> So, I really don't understand what the core of the problem is. Why does Alpine
> fail on this at all?
>
> Regards,
>
> Stephan.
>
>
>
>
Re: Localhost imap server fails after upgrade from 2.2.33.2-1 to 1:2.3.2.1 (fwd)
Hi Aki,
Bingo! Putting that line in dovecot.conf rather than my custom file, and
then using my old custom file, unchanged, from Alpine works perfectly.
My only remaining question, then, would be ... what was this (change)
about / or is there any documentation that I should/could have read to
know what to do without asking a lead developer?
Thank you very much.
I hope you had a great start to the New Year!
Happy 2019,
Chris
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018, Aki Tuomi wrote:
> If your client directly executes imap binary, it is not mandatory for dovecot
> to be running, but you need to put the service section into
> /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf and restart the dovecot service.
>
> Putting it to your local config file does not affect the global service.
>
> Aki
>
> > On 31 December 2018 at 22:16 Chris BL wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Aki,
> >
> > I am not 100% sure. I do not really know what my OS does. "ps -A" says
> > dovecot is running, but if I say "sudo service dovecot stop", my email
> > client works fine still (that is, assuming the old version of dovecot is
> > installed). ie the on-demand instances of dovecot-imapd that Alpine calls
> > are, I assume, started and stopped by Alpine. (?)
> >
> > Is my OS using dovecot for other stuff, like managing system mail (e.g.
> > root's reports of cron jobs, which still go to /var/mail, but I never read
> > them)? I am not certain. But I believed that any other use of dovecot
> > would be using a different .conf file, so I was hoping I just had to know
> > how to make my custom one (-c flag) work.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 31 Dec 2018, Aki Tuomi wrote:
> >
> > > Am I assuming correctly that you are not, in fact, running anything but
> > > imap process from Dovecot?
> > >
> > > Aki
> > >
> > > > On 31 December 2018 at 18:35 Chris BL
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Aki,
> > > >
> > > > Oops; I did not think carefully enough about your instructions. Here is
> > > > the output from
> > > >
> > > > $ dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > > >
> > > > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > > > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
> > > > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4
> > > > # Hostname: cpbl-t450s
> > > > doveconf: Warning: please set ssl_dh= > > > doveconf: Warning: You can generate it with: dd
> > > > if=/var/lib/dovecot/ssl-parameters.dat bs=1 skip=88 | openssl dhparam
> > > > -inform der > /etc/dovecot/dh.pem
> > > > mail_location =
> > > > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX
> > > > service stats {
> > > > unix_listener stats-writer {
> > > > mode = 0666
> > > > }
> > > > }
> > > > ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it
> > > > verbose_proctitle = yes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I then followed the instructions in the Warning lines above and now I
> > > > get:
> > > >
> > > > dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > > > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > > > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
> > > > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4
> > > > # Hostname: cpbl-t450s
> > > > mail_location =
> > > > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX
> > > > service stats {
> > > > unix_listener stats-writer {
> > > > mode = 0666
> > > > }
> > > > }
> > > > ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it
> > > > verbose_proctitle = yes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However, this does not help my primary symptom:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > $ /usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c
> > > > /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > > > imap(meuser,)Error: net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer)
> > > > failed: Permission denied
> > > > * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE
> > > > SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS THREAD=ORDERED
Re: Localhost imap server fails after upgrade from 2.2.33.2-1 to 1:2.3.2.1 (fwd)
Hi Aki,
I am not 100% sure. I do not really know what my OS does. "ps -A" says
dovecot is running, but if I say "sudo service dovecot stop", my email
client works fine still (that is, assuming the old version of dovecot is
installed). ie the on-demand instances of dovecot-imapd that Alpine calls
are, I assume, started and stopped by Alpine. (?)
Is my OS using dovecot for other stuff, like managing system mail (e.g.
root's reports of cron jobs, which still go to /var/mail, but I never read
them)? I am not certain. But I believed that any other use of dovecot
would be using a different .conf file, so I was hoping I just had to know
how to make my custom one (-c flag) work.
Thanks,
Chris
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018, Aki Tuomi wrote:
> Am I assuming correctly that you are not, in fact, running anything but imap
> process from Dovecot?
>
> Aki
>
> > On 31 December 2018 at 18:35 Chris BL wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Aki,
> >
> > Oops; I did not think carefully enough about your instructions. Here is the
> > output from
> >
> > $ dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> >
> > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
> > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4
> > # Hostname: cpbl-t450s
> > doveconf: Warning: please set ssl_dh= > doveconf: Warning: You can generate it with: dd
> > if=/var/lib/dovecot/ssl-parameters.dat bs=1 skip=88 | openssl dhparam
> > -inform der > /etc/dovecot/dh.pem
> > mail_location =
> > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX
> > service stats {
> > unix_listener stats-writer {
> > mode = 0666
> > }
> > }
> > ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it
> > verbose_proctitle = yes
> >
> >
> > I then followed the instructions in the Warning lines above and now I get:
> >
> > dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
> > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4
> > # Hostname: cpbl-t450s
> > mail_location =
> > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX
> > service stats {
> > unix_listener stats-writer {
> > mode = 0666
> > }
> > }
> > ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it
> > verbose_proctitle = yes
> >
> >
> > However, this does not help my primary symptom:
> >
> >
> > $ /usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
> > imap(meuser,)Error: net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) failed:
> > Permission denied
> > * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE SORT
> > SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
> > MULTIAPPEND URL-PARTIAL CATENATE UNSELECT CHILDREN NAMESPACE
> > UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES
> > WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS BINARY MOVE SNIPPET=FUZZY LITERAL+
> > NOTIFY] Logged in as meuser
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:27 AM Aki Tuomi
> > wrote:
> > Did you remove the service section before taking doveconf -n? 'cos I
> > can't see it here..
> >
> > Also, did you restart dovecot after config change?
> >
> > Aki
> >
> > > On 31 December 2018 at 16:54 Chris BL
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Aki,
> > >
> > > Yes, the same connect error: imap(meuser,)Error:
> > net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) failed: Permission denied
> > >
> > > The mail location in "doveconf -n" (belo) does not reflect my
> > preferences.
> > >
> > > In Alpine, if I acknowledge the error I get, which tells me to add
> > > novalidate-cert in my pinerc file, it prompts me for my POSIX
> > username and
> > > password. After that, I get my /var/spool/mail inbox, which is not
> > what I
> > > want.
> > >
> > >
> > > doveconf -n
> > > # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
> > > # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
> > > # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10
> > > #
Re: Localhost imap server fails after upgrade from 2.2.33.2-1 to 1:2.3.2.1 (fwd)
Hi Aki,
Oops; I did not think carefully enough about your instructions. Here is the
output from
$ dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
# 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
# OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4
# Hostname: cpbl-t450s
doveconf: Warning: please set ssl_dh= /etc/dovecot/dh.pem
mail_location =
maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX
service stats {
unix_listener stats-writer {
mode = 0666
}
}
ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it
verbose_proctitle = yes
I then followed the instructions in the Warning lines above and now I get:
dovecot -n -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
# 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
# OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10 ext4
# Hostname: cpbl-t450s
mail_location =
maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX
service stats {
unix_listener stats-writer {
mode = 0666
}
}
ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it
verbose_proctitle = yes
However, this does not help my primary symptom:
$ /usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-stanford-dovecot.conf
imap(meuser,)Error: net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) failed:
Permission denied
* PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE SORT
SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT MULTIAPPEND
URL-PARTIAL CATENATE UNSELECT CHILDREN NAMESPACE
UIDPLUS LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES
WITHIN CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS BINARY MOVE SNIPPET=FUZZY LITERAL+ NOTIFY]
Logged in as meuser
Thanks!
Chris
On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 10:27 AM Aki Tuomi wrote:
Did you remove the service section before taking doveconf -n? 'cos I
can't see it here..
Also, did you restart dovecot after config change?
Aki
> On 31 December 2018 at 16:54 Chris BL
wrote:
>
>
> Hi Aki,
>
> Yes, the same connect error: imap(meuser,)Error:
net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) failed: Permission denied
>
> The mail location in "doveconf -n" (belo) does not reflect my
preferences.
>
> In Alpine, if I acknowledge the error I get, which tells me to add
> novalidate-cert in my pinerc file, it prompts me for my POSIX username
and
> password. After that, I get my /var/spool/mail inbox, which is not
what I
> want.
>
>
> doveconf -n
> # 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
> # Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
> # OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10
> # Hostname: myhost-t450s
> mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
> mail_privileged_group = mail
> namespace inbox {
> inbox = yes
> location =
> mailbox Drafts {
> special_use = \Drafts
> }
> mailbox Junk {
> special_use = \Junk
> }
> mailbox Sent {
> special_use = \Sent
> }
> mailbox "Sent Messages" {
> special_use = \Sent
> }
> mailbox Trash {
> special_use = \Trash
> }
> prefix =
> }
> passdb {
> driver = pam
> }
> protocols = " imap"
> ssl_cert = ssl_client_ca_dir = /etc/ssl/certs
> ssl_dh = # hidden, use -P to show it
> ssl_key = # hidden, use -P to show it
> userdb {
> driver = passwd
> }
>
>
>
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2018, Aki Tuomi wrote:
>
> > You are still getting the connect error?
> >
> > Can you share your doveconf -n?
> >
> > Aki
> >
> > > On 31 December 2018 at 16:42 cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Aki,
> > >
> > > Thanks. I put that in the .conf file I mentioned, and it made no
> > > difference.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > In your case it's probably easiest to change
> > > >
> > > > service stats {
> > > > unix_listener stats-writer {
> > > > mode = 0666
> > > > }
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > Aki
> > > >
> > > > > On 31 December 2018 at
Re: Localhost imap server fails after upgrade from 2.2.33.2-1 to 1:2.3.2.1
Hi Aki,
Yes, the same connect error: imap(meuser,)Error:
net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer) failed: Permission denied
The mail location in "doveconf -n" (belo) does not reflect my preferences.
In Alpine, if I acknowledge the error I get, which tells me to add
novalidate-cert in my pinerc file, it prompts me for my POSIX username and
password. After that, I get my /var/spool/mail inbox, which is not what I
want.
doveconf -n
# 2.3.2.1 (0719df592): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.5.2 ()
# OS: Linux 4.18.0-13-generic x86_64 Ubuntu 18.10
# Hostname: myhost-t450s
mail_location = mbox:~/mail:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
mail_privileged_group = mail
namespace inbox {
inbox = yes
location =
mailbox Drafts {
special_use = \Drafts
}
mailbox Junk {
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox "Sent Messages" {
special_use = \Sent
}
mailbox Trash {
special_use = \Trash
}
prefix =
}
passdb {
driver = pam
}
protocols = " imap"
ssl_cert = You are still getting the connect error?
>
> Can you share your doveconf -n?
>
> Aki
>
> > On 31 December 2018 at 16:42 cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Aki,
> >
> > Thanks. I put that in the .conf file I mentioned, and it made no
> > difference.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > In your case it's probably easiest to change
> > >
> > > service stats {
> > > unix_listener stats-writer {
> > > mode = 0666
> > > }
> > > }
> > >
> > > Aki
> > >
> > > > On 31 December 2018 at 16:05 cpblpublic+dove...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I use a localhost dovecot imap server in order to access maildir
> > > > folders from Alpine (see 2009 instructions for my set up here
> > > > https://cpbl.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/alpine-offlineimap-and-gmail-under-ubuntu/
> > > > )
> > > >
> > > > My configuration has worked nicely since 2009, but failed after a
> > > > recent upgrade of dovecot (during basic upgrade from Ubuntu 18.04 to
> > > > 18.10).
> > > >
> > > > The version of Alpine did not change. Uninstalling dovecot-core and
> > > > dovecot-imapd, and reinstalling the older versions, fully fixes the
> > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to know how to get my configuration working with the new
> > > > version of dovecot.
> > > >
> > > > Here's what the problem looks like:
> > > >
> > > > I have a file auto-dovecot.conf with only the following two lines.
> > > >
> > > > verbose_proctitle = yes
> > > > mail_location =
> > > > maildir:/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=/home/meuser/imap/gmailStanford/INBOX
> > > >
> > > > Other /etc/ files are unchanged from installation defaults.
> > > >
> > > > Alpine calls imapd when it starts, with the following command:
> > > >
> > > > /usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c /home/meuser/dotfiles/auto-dovecot.conf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > When I run that command, I get:
> > > >
> > > > imap(meuser,)Error: net_connect_unix(/var/run/dovecot/stats-writer)
> > > > failed: Permission denied
> > > > * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID ENABLE IDLE
> > > > SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
> > > > MULTIAPPEND URL-PARTIAL CATENATE UNSELECT CHILDREN NAMESPACE UIDPLUS
> > > > LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES
> > > > WITHIN
> > > > CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS BINARY MOVE SNIPPET=FUZZY LITERAL+ NOTIFY]
> > > > Logged in as meuser
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > so I am guessing that the first line is the issue, since when the older
> > > > version I get instead:
> > > >
> > > > * PREAUTH [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 LITERAL+ SASL-IR LOGIN-REFERRALS ID
> > > > ENABLE
> > > > IDLE SORT SORT=DISPLAY THREAD=REFERENCES THREAD=REFS
> > > > THREAD=ORDEREDSUBJECT
> > > > MULTIAPPEND URL-PARTIAL CATENATE UNSELECT CHILDREN NAMESPACE UIDPLUS
> > > > LIST-EXTENDED I18NLEVEL=1 CONDSTORE QRESYNC ESEARCH ESORT SEARCHRES
> > > > WITHIN
> > > > CONTEXT=SEARCH LIST-STATUS BINARY MOVE] Logged in as meuser
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me? I cannot find documentation for using a localhost
> > > > server for Alpine, except my own from 2009.
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > >
>
