Re: Dovecot alternatives with good i18n support?

2020-11-26 Thread David Bürgin
PGNet Dev:
> On 11/22/20 6:59 AM, David Bürgin wrote:
> > I’m interested in exploring alternative IMAP servers that have good
> > support for internationalised email, such as support for SMTPUTF8, IDN
> > mail domains, Unicode local-part, etc. etc.
> > 
> > If you used to use Dovecot, and found an alternative that does such
> > things well, I would very much like to hear it.
> 
> "good support" is a rather fuzzy qualifier.  in general, it's sketchy.  
> here's a comparison list / sort on "IDN/UTF8",
> 
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_mail_servers

Thank you for the pointers.

I’m only a casual user. I wanted to begin experimenting with
internationalised email envelopes, but I now realise that support is
poor and interest is low throughout the email universe.


Dovecot alternatives with good i18n support?

2020-11-22 Thread David Bürgin
Hello!

I’m interested in exploring alternative IMAP servers that have good
support for internationalised email, such as support for SMTPUTF8, IDN
mail domains, Unicode local-part, etc. etc.

If you used to use Dovecot, and found an alternative that does such
things well, I would very much like to hear it.

Thank you,


-- 
David


Still interested in SMTPUTF8 support

2020-03-17 Thread David Bürgin
I haven’t seen this term on the mailing list for a while. I don’t know
if you’re tracking this somewhere, in any case I’m curious if you are
still planning to add support for SMTPUTF8.

Cheers,


Re: SMTPUTF8 support

2019-04-05 Thread David Bürgin via dovecot
I’m afraid there is a possibility that your setup only works by chance …
I don’t think Dovecot LMTP is SMTPUTF8-capable according to RFC 6531. It
needs to advertise the SMTPUTF8 extension but doesn’t.

# nc -U /var/spool/postfix/private/dovecot-lmtp
220 mail.my.org Dovecot ready.
LHLO mail.my.org
250-mail.my.org
250-STARTTLS
250-8BITMIME
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250 PIPELINING


-- 
David


Re: SMTPUTF8 support

2019-04-05 Thread David Bürgin via dovecot
Well, what a puzzle. I will have to investigate. I also tried it with
Gmail, and the failure was definitely between Postfix and Dovecot LMTP,
with Dovecot failing to advertise SMTPUTF8 support. My setup is much
more minimal, I use file-based virtual mailboxes and aliases, and only
OpenDKIM and SpamAssassin milters.

Thank you for your reply, André!


Re: SMTPUTF8 support

2019-04-05 Thread David Bürgin via dovecot
André, are you quite sure you have it working?

In this thread someone from Open-Xchange stated that no, Dovecot doesn’t
have SMTPUTF8 support implemented, and the same response was given by
another Dovecot developer last September (it ‘is being considered’ was
the answer then, see
https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/2018-September/112887.html).

I am using LMTP to deliver mail to Dovecot from Postfix, and delivery
fails with Postfix reporting: ‘SMTPUTF8 is required, but was not offered
by host mail.my.org[private/dovecot-lmtp]’. I doubt that this can work
without a change in Dovecot LMTP.

Anyway, I am also interested in SMTPUTF8 support, so +1 from me!


-- 
David