Re: [Dovecot] duplicate all emails for 'backup' after user deletes them?

2012-09-26 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 26.09.2012 16:21, schrieb Charles Marcus:
> On 2012-09-25 4:24 AM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
>> if this is the case and he is deleting them manually explain
>> him that it is NOT your problem if he is too stupid to use
>> email at all and sooner or later he will learn it
> 
> Not an option if said user is the boss...

surely

even the boss has to understand that there is no technical
solution for a social problem - if not: wrong company



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Re: [Dovecot] duplicate all emails for 'backup' after user deletes them?

2012-09-26 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 26.09.2012 16:21, schrieb Charles Marcus:
> On 2012-09-25 4:24 AM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
>> Am 25.09.2012 10:07, schrieb Voytek Eymont:
>>> I have a user who occasionally reads, then deletes emails using his
>>> phone,
>>> on his and others email accounts, causing emails deleted on mail server,
>>> then he says 'oops, can you recover emails I've deleted?'
>>>
>>> what's the best way to duplicate all emails to duplicate accounts ?
>>> backup
>>> folders ? so, next time he deletes emails they can be 'recovered' on the
>>> server ?
>> configure his phone to leave messages on the server
>>
>> if this is the case and he is deleting them manually explain
>> him that it is NOT your problem if he is too stupid to use
>> email at all and sooner or later he will learn it
> 
> Not an option if said user is the boss...
> 

you may do it like this, other soltuions may also thinkable
( depends on your local needs and setup)

configure email archive i.e with postfix

with i.e

always_bcc = address
Deliver a copy of all mail to the specified address. In Postfix
versions before 2.1, this feature is implemented by smtpd(8), qmqpd(8),
or pickup(8).
sender_bcc_maps = type:table
Search the specified "type:table" lookup table with the envelope
sender address for an automatic BCC address. This feature is available
in Postfix 2.1 and later.
recipient_bcc_maps = type:table
Search the specified "type:table" lookup table with the envelope
recipient address for an automatic BCC address. This feature is
available in Postfix 2.1 and later.

deliver bc whatever to a second imap account mailbox in a folder set
read only via acl
i.e with sieve, if you want ,sort by date too etc
so if mail was lost ,why ever, the user is able to login into his archive
and copy that mail back to his real account



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Re: [Dovecot] duplicate all emails for 'backup' after user deletes them?

2012-09-26 Thread Charles Marcus

On 2012-09-25 4:24 AM, Reindl Harald  wrote:

Am 25.09.2012 10:07, schrieb Voytek Eymont:

I have a user who occasionally reads, then deletes emails using his phone,
on his and others email accounts, causing emails deleted on mail server,
then he says 'oops, can you recover emails I've deleted?'

what's the best way to duplicate all emails to duplicate accounts ? backup
folders ? so, next time he deletes emails they can be 'recovered' on the
server ?

configure his phone to leave messages on the server

if this is the case and he is deleting them manually explain
him that it is NOT your problem if he is too stupid to use
email at all and sooner or later he will learn it


Not an option if said user is the boss...

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Best regards,

Charles



Re: [Dovecot] duplicate all emails for 'backup' after user deletes them?

2012-09-25 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 25.09.2012 10:07, schrieb Voytek Eymont:
> I have a user who occasionally reads, then deletes emails using his phone,
> on his and others email accounts, causing emails deleted on mail server,
> then he says 'oops, can you recover emails I've deleted?'
> 
> what's the best way to duplicate all emails to duplicate accounts ? backup
> folders ? so, next time he deletes emails they can be 'recovered' on the
> server ?

configure his phone to leave messages on the server

if this is the case and he is deleting them manually explain
him that it is NOT your problem if he is too stupid to use
email at all and sooner or later he will learn it



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Re: [Dovecot] duplicate all emails for 'backup' after user deletes them?

2012-09-25 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Voytek Eymont :
> I have a user who occasionally reads, then deletes emails using his phone,
> on his and others email accounts, causing emails deleted on mail server,
> then he says 'oops, can you recover emails I've deleted?'
> 
> what's the best way to duplicate all emails to duplicate accounts ? backup
> folders ? so, next time he deletes emails they can be 'recovered' on the
> server ?
> 
> I was thinking along the lines of duplicating ALL emails...?
> 
> any tips and pointers appreciated

http://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/Lazyexpunge

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[Dovecot] duplicate all emails for 'backup' after user deletes them?

2012-09-25 Thread Voytek Eymont
I have a user who occasionally reads, then deletes emails using his phone,
on his and others email accounts, causing emails deleted on mail server,
then he says 'oops, can you recover emails I've deleted?'

what's the best way to duplicate all emails to duplicate accounts ? backup
folders ? so, next time he deletes emails they can be 'recovered' on the
server ?

I was thinking along the lines of duplicating ALL emails...?

any tips and pointers appreciated


-- 
Voytek