Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-30 Thread Robert Sander
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:34:52 +0200,
 Stephan Holl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> well, rc15 is offered thru debian stable. It runs w/o no errors so
> there is no need to update (yet). But yes, if someone knows a repo
> with a recent dovecot-package for debian stable.

backports.org has dovecot 1.0.0 for Debian etch.

Greetings
-- 
Robert Sander


Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-27 Thread Stephan Holl
Hello,

On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:05:41 +1000 Tim Bates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Dave McGuire wrote:
> > On Aug 26, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> > Several good centralized software management schemes have been
> > around for a very, very long time.  I don't use *any* "package
> > management" systems...they are more trouble than they're worth.
> > The very existence of this thread is an example. ;)
> 
> Meh... That all depends on your vendor. Even if they include an older 
> version, the better vendors keep everything secure and as bug free as 
> possible.
> Package managers allow busy people to keep a system up to date with 
> little effort. I would think security fixes are more important than
> new features any day.

well, rc15 is offered thru debian stable. It runs w/o no errors so
there is no need to update (yet). But yes, if someone knows a repo
with a recent dovecot-package for debian stable.

Best

Stephan


-- 
Stephan Holl

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.holl-land.de


Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-26 Thread Tim Bates

Dave McGuire wrote:

On Aug 26, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
Several good centralized software management schemes have been around 
for a very, very long time.  I don't use *any* "package management" 
systems...they are more trouble than they're worth.  The very 
existence of this thread is an example. ;)


Meh... That all depends on your vendor. Even if they include an older 
version, the better vendors keep everything secure and as bug free as 
possible.
Package managers allow busy people to keep a system up to date with 
little effort. I would think security fixes are more important than new 
features any day.


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Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-26 Thread Dave McGuire

On Aug 26, 2007, at 4:00 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
   Perhaps what we really need is a wiki page to allay the fears  
of  the
people who pathetically find such difficulty in "./  
configure;make;make

install".


That's fine if you have only a single system and don't need to  
track installed files through a packaging system.


  I currently maintain about thirty systems of three different  
processor architectures and four different OSs (*different OSs*, not  
"different Linux 'distros'").  It isn't a problem (or even a  
bottleneck) in that environment.  Several good centralized software  
management schemes have been around for a very, very long time.  I  
don't use *any* "package management" systems...they are more trouble  
than they're worth.  The very existence of this thread is an example. ;)


At the very least, one should wrap that idiom in the distro's  
packaging scheme, such as "rpmbuild --rebuild dovecot- 
.src.rpm ; su ; rpm -Uvh dovecot-.i386.rpm".


  Hmm, that does sound like a good idea.

  -Dave

--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Farewell Ophelia, 9/22/1991 - 7/25/2007





Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-26 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Sunday, August 26, 2007 2:45 PM -0400 Dave McGuire 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



   Perhaps what we really need is a wiki page to allay the fears of  the
people who pathetically find such difficulty in "./ configure;make;make
install".


That's fine if you have only a single system and don't need to track 
installed files through a packaging system.


At the very least, one should wrap that idiom in the distro's packaging 
scheme, such as "rpmbuild --rebuild dovecot-.src.rpm ; su ; rpm -Uvh 
dovecot-.i386.rpm".


Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-26 Thread Dave McGuire

On Aug 26, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
Also - why rc15? Thats really old now. If your're doing a  
migration, why

not migrate to the newest version?


Perhaps the latest his distro offers?

Perhaps we need a wiki page showing alternate repos that offer a  
more up-to-date Dovecot for the more conservative distros (like  
RHEL and CentoOS).


  Perhaps what we really need is a wiki page to allay the fears of  
the people who pathetically find such difficulty in "./ 
configure;make;make install".


 -Dave

--
Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL
Farewell Ophelia, 9/22/1991 - 7/25/2007





Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-26 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Saturday, August 25, 2007 7:07 PM -0400 Charles Marcus 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Also - why rc15? Thats really old now. If your're doing a migration, why
not migrate to the newest version?


Perhaps the latest his distro offers?

Perhaps we need a wiki page showing alternate repos that offer a more 
up-to-date Dovecot for the more conservative distros (like RHEL and 
CentoOS).





Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-25 Thread Charles Marcus

I have old MBOX-trees from a dovecot-0.99-installation. I would like to
integrate them into dovecot 1.0.0rc15 with Maildir.



http://wiki.dovecot.org/Migration
http://wiki.dovecot.org/Migration/MailFormat


Also - why rc15? Thats really old now. If your're doing a migration, why 
not migrate to the newest version?


--

Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] Migrate 0.99 MBox into 1.0rc15-2

2007-08-25 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 11:12 +0200, Stephan Holl wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have old MBOX-trees from a dovecot-0.99-installation. I would like to
> integrate them into dovecot 1.0.0rc15 with Maildir.
> 
> Sadly the old dovecot is no lonfger running, otherwise imapsync could be
> used.
> 
> Does anybody can give some hints how to start?

http://wiki.dovecot.org/Migration
http://wiki.dovecot.org/Migration/MailFormat



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